MPC 2000 Classic vs MPC 2000 XL - Sampling Comparison

[@vinyljunkie07]

They are virtually the same machine, same 8 out board and same dac from memory. What happened and why Akai had to release the XL was because the 2000 hit a brick wall in terms of planned OS updates and bug fixes as you couldn't fit it all in the EPROMS so they just revised the hardware and released a new model instead. Marco Alpert was the product developer on the MPC-2000, that's the same guy who did the SP-1200. I never had the chance to compare them side by side but I read the MPC2000 still has a bug in the filter, so the filter is always at 1% resonance. It's never completely off. During it's evolution it had a lot of weird bugs that even effected it's sequencer timing.

[@shermLarock]

Classic has balanced inputs the xl doesn't. This and the sound comparison. Having both. Leads me to believe they are not the same. The s3000xl also accepts the same 8 output that also sounds different. The best way to describe it is. The classic is more open. Better stereo imaging in & thinner ( in a good way) the xl is a little more boomier.

[@bliss3174]

Where did you read about the 2000 bug?

[@MCVixenVee]

A lot of weird bugs? I don't think so. bought mine New in 98 before the XL came out, nothing but rock solid timing just like my fully expanded MPC60 II with 3.10 OS and SCSI

[@kamikaze6295]

I'm getting old slowly, my ears can't tell a "real" difference, but both devices deserve a place in the hall of fame. That's fasho

[@Mattia_22]

Sound is clearly the same. And it's funny how folks kept arguing on how the XL sounded "cheaper" compared to the classic, just becouse it came out later 😂

[@EARART]

You must be deaf then

[@yingtianfu]

@@EARART Nah, he right.

[@badb.2826]

I listened on my adam a7 speakers and sound is the same

[@sameoldken5743]

Slight difference in the drums

[@edwardmichael8337]

It’s the Hipsters

[@boom-a-rangmusik7203]

Great Comparison! The XL sounds more thinner to me more on the clean side. The 2000 classic has more meat and sounds more fuller and a bit more warmer. The Xl may have more features but Sonically the classic has more sound and fullness. Both Great Machines but ima go with the classic!..

[@hoodybeatz]

2000 classic really shines sampling @78rpm

[@LoFiWeekly]

Man I love your videos - keep bringing the dopeness!

[@256k_]

"Corporate wants you to find the differences between these 2 pictures" "it's the same picture"

[@oldschoollee]

2000 is nicknamed classic for a good reason

[@nuendo2020]

Because its not XL its classic get it not because of sound lol

[@justinmerritt3843]

I'm listening to this comparison through my Sony MDR7506 headphones and I can clearly hear the MPC 2000xl is either slightly louder or the drum transients are hitting harder on the 2000xl. very obvious from the drum loop. I would also say, the high end extension on the 2000xl may be a little more high fi. Honestly though, I don't hear enough difference for you to actually own one over the other. there are subtle differences but I cant really attest that to being small input differences or volume being slightly off.

[@RCutOffakavEM]

the differences are subtle, but in my opinion the 2000xl is a little bit phatty sounding, the 2k classic is a more of a natural sounding machine. And also the 2k is taller in higher frequencies, hence more hi-fi. Both are great instruments!

[@GODInTheWax444]

MPCs are not instruments. If you can't have sheet music for it it's not an instrument. It's a midi controller. Not giving you a hard time, this comment is meant for anyone who sees it and makes that statement that a MPC is an instrument. It's like a car and a motorcycle. They are both motor vehicles, but one is a car and one is a motor cycle

[@kao4763]

Sheet music!? Indigenous people were hand making instruments, before ink, paper, and notation. Godinthewax? With control over tuning and pitch, the turntable is an instrument. Where’s that sheet music?

[@RCutOffakavEM]

TTM is sheet music for turntablists

[@paradox3470]

@@GODInTheWax444bruh… every instrument used to create music is a music instrument.

[@GODInTheWax444]

@@paradox3470 beat on the table to make a beat. Is your hand a music instrument or the table. Stupid comment....

[@rarespecies7509]

You could do also a comparison with hot recorded samples, and with a bit of recording gain overdrive. That's where the biggest difference in sound character comes in. 😉

[@dannonrusch5496]

Great comparison! 2000 much brighter for sure. Super crispy! thanks for the share

[@MrMissingReel]

Much brighter ? 😂 I can't hear no difference.....

[@SergioMartinez-el8kg]

@@MrMissingReel literally no dramatic difference. Fuck all these idiots claiming they can here a major difference especially through youtubes audio compression smh

[@proudpolishherbsman2583]

The key is the "Akai" logo. The XL version with a "refreshed" Akai logo sounded closer to the 2500. The XL version with an oldschool Akai logo (as in case of MPC60, MPC3000 and MPC2000 Classic) sounded closer to the classic 2000.

[@vubeatz]

wow, I never heard that theory, so I need to look for this different version if really exist :)

[@truesearch69]

@@vubeatz I can do this without s950?... where is the pitch option un the 2000xl? the logo is quite interesting, in the part where it says "professional" is the difference, there are some with more elegant letters and without circular red filling... Another doubt ... I saw that a user commented below if he could do it with an recording from his computer in the xl ... how does that happen if there is no rpm stage since you record from a daw... hugs homie

[@bliss3174]

ThAts cap

[@littrandemakerjovy3770]

Lol these stupid theories gotta love them

[@Mcsteveberry]

thanks brother love these things

[@bummbummsound]

This discussion feels like comparing a red piece of lego from 2020 with a red piece of lego from 2018. As far as I know they share the same sample engine. There might be a slight difference when it comes to pitch but to me they sound so identical that no one can tell me they could distinguish these two somehow.

[@vubeatz]

I make that comparison to end that discussion about 2000 vs XL sound engine. I was suprised also by results. I always claim that Classic is better.

[@showbread9366]

@@vubeatz i agree it most certainly is - I’ve had both machines.

[@JesseDavidMtzTrj]

Own both machines as well. Classic all day

[@stuartdavid8493]

Did u use .wav or .snd compression? That’s where the sound difference lies; .snd file compression.

[@aram199123]

2000 is a little warmer for sure.

[@DJROCKCEEENTERTAINMENT]

As much as I love the mpc 2000 xl, the mpc 2000 classic sounds better !!

[@EASki]

100 PERCENT CORRECT

[@JEFFMAN90]

How?? They're literally the same machine

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Not really much in it between the two for me. They both have a similar air to them

[@blantoniusz]

Kurde, rozjebujesz mi tymi filmami konstrukcje. Człowiek dłubie, wydaje mu się że coś tam wie, coś tam rozumie. A ten przychodzi, pokazuje jaka wielka jest różnica przy samej prędkości zgrania. Fak ju Vu!

[@cireirby5359]

The OS 1.0 ver is way different from 1.3 ver - 1.5 ver and 1.7 ver is too each OS has things in them that makes the units act a different way but if you do not get the document on the different OS you will never understand the hidden functions

[@Ashfaq1999]

Both Dope 👊

[@TheKingBJ]

I felt more dynamics and crisper high freqs from the XL

[@seiya_fukunishi]

Very cool video!!! Thank you!!

[@xsm5525]

the OG 2000 has a slightly smokier sound, like an old tobacco tin from 1850. Has a nice bit of Earthy low-mids on the backend, not too dry. easily session-able.

[@phil4ril]

Funny my og2000 came from a heavy smoker in Japan, so it smells like cigs when its been on for a while. The thing is in great condition. Japan knows how to take care of their electronics.

[@IanHolden]

Much the same for me and I really don’t think anybody will hear the difference in a mix. I would take the XL simply because it’s more featured and sounds almost the same. Thanks for sharing

[@JEFFMAN90]

Facts

[@JesseDavidMtzTrj]

The mix is affected by the machines the sound is coming from. A mix from the mpc 60 will sound very different than a mix from the mpc 2000 even if its the same beat and you try to make them sound as close as possible. There are slight differences between the xl and the classic, small as they may be, they are both taken into consideration when tracking out of these machines.

[@proudpolishherbsman2583]

The MPC2000 Classic was used by Kanye West, D'Angelo, Damu The Fudgemunk, Noon, Eminem etc. Also DJ Premier, DJ Shadow, Dr. Dre and J Dilla had one as a side-MPC, this means something. The 2k is the best sounding MPC with waveform editing you can ever get.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Kanye = 2KXL Eminem = 2KXL. Dilla had one but didn't like it and gave it to a friend who surprised him with the beats he made on it. Dre had three 3000s in the studio so I doubt that he would have needed a 2K even as a side piece. Can't tell you about the rest as I'm not up on their equipment. The difference in sound is minute as one 2K to another. As for best sounding MPC with waveform editing I think some 4K users may disagree with you. Personally whatever works for you, use it.

[@proudpolishherbsman2583]

@@RoomAtTheTopStudio Kanye's main MPC was 2000 Classic, not XL. Eminem's main MPC was 2000 Classic, not XL. Dilla never said he didn't like the 2000, he just preferred the 3000 over 2000 which is obvious. But he would most definitely prefer the 2000 Classic over 2000XL.

[@kamikaze6295]

​@@proudpolishherbsman2583 can be but Kayne West worked with both the mpc2000 and 2000xl. There are numerous pictures on the internet that prove this. And Dr.Dre had 3x mpc 3000

[@lol-zf6fu]

So the 2k is bigger than the 2k XL

[@secretairece175]

yes in size.

[@kamikaze6295]

Fasho

[@jimmyli8803]

sound about the same for me..78rpm on the classic sound a bit more alising on mid/high range on my apple headphone .

[@izaguirre5059]

If this was your first time with MPC and your choices were MPC 1000 & MPC ONE strictly for Hip Hop which one would you recommend?

[@vubeatz]

MPC One.

[@izaguirre5059]

@@vubeatz thank you i appreciate it

[@miIitaryminded]

@@izaguirre5059 you're going to regret that in the long run

[@alfredbaxter1061]

Mpc one and live got more features and better requirements on because it's newer and you can't fit a lot of hard River space but for your bang for your buck I go with the mpc 1000 because you can fit a lot of hardrive space on that one to and it's way cheaper to by now I just get the mpc 1000 you saving money

[@medysio]

Technically the sound is the same as both machines came from same factory in China and the difference is rather construction wise. If you sample with 33rpm and not work in a full analog/tube environment the sound will sound alike in the end. Not to mention that in order to get trustworthy analysis you would need to clean them thoroughly (inputs/outputs) and re-cap PSU to get exactly same voltage/noise specs. More surprising would be comparison between MPC 2000(XL) vs Yamaha or Emu 16bit sampler produced at this time 😉

[@vubeatz]

yeah I agree mostly but for bedroom beat maker, this comparison is enuff in my opinion. I will make another vid like that, MPC 60 vs 2000xl, 2000 classic vs s900 etc.

[@vubeatz]

And in description You can find what gear I used to sample.

[@medysio]

​@@vubeatz yup, totally agree - I simply wanted to emphasize that both MPCs, 2000 and XL, technically SHOULD sound the same and eventual difference is rather driven by noise level and general condition of one sampler :)

[@uoffanaan]

@@medysio man they shounld'nt sound the same these machine are different internaly. And most of the people owning both can testify only internet wannabee sound specialist can't ear a difference. The input are also different and don't react thé same when driven. This demo is perfect for what it aimed to do.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

@@uoffanaan You are probably right as although they pretty much sound the same in this video I've heard the classic driven hot in other videos that gives it a harmonics that I've not heard from the XL which has a smoother sound IMO. I recently got a XL to replace my first MPC which was the classic but I know that it will still bug me until I actually get the classic so eventually I will have to even though really I don't need it. It's just a personal choice. Either way both are great instruments to work with.

[@maailmamusic8810]

hey, whats the name of the drumbreak? i have it as a wav file but unnamed. i ve been looking for the name of the song for years :D and thanks for all the nice videos you make. keep doing them! i enjoy watching them. especially the ones where you show your akai s900/950 samplers! :)

[@rapidiot]

cześć, mógłbyś mi powiedzieć dlaczego 2000 przy zmianie device scsi wyświetla komunikat „wait” i pozostaje zwieszona?

[@vubeatz]

Działo mi się tak tylko kiedy miałem uszkodzony napęd SCSI. MPC próbuje dowiedzieć się od urządzenia czy device odpowiada i nie dostaje odpowiedzi. Przynajmniej ja miałem taki przypadek :)

[@rapidiot]

ok dzięki w moim przypadku istnieje nawet kiedy nic nie jest podłączone wystarczy jog w prawo i koniec! a 2000 przy każdym rozruchu musi mieć w kieszeni dyskietkę z systemem by wystartować a nie tak jak jest to w XL że ma w pamięci?

[@vubeatz]

@@rapidiot nie nie ma w pamięci tak jak XL. Wiesz co to możesz mieć cały moduł SCSI uszkodzony. Wiem, że łatwo spalić ten moduł na przykład przez podłączanie kabla SCSI przy włączonej MPC.

[@CMedia87]

Question im new to all of this, but I have some gear that I would like too hook up, most are usb devices so I know that the audio will play back for those devices because of my audio interface connected to the computer etc the problem is that I have gear such as a mpc 2000 xl and a motif that I would like to hear on my monitors but I have only one pair. in short how to I hook my gear up so that I could play any go them and hear it through my one set of monitors? hope this makes sense.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

I haven't tried it on my 2000XL yet but it's usually the same on any MIDI device. MIDI out from your XL to MIDI in of your audio interface using MIDI cables. MIDI out of your audio interface to the MIDI in of Motif. MIDI out of your Motif to the MIDI in of your XL. Go into the MIDI sync of your MPC and set the channel you want the Motif on (channel 1) set your MIDI settings to "Soft Thru," then set your MPC to slave in the settings so your DAW controls your MPC. You can now start your DAW and the MPC will start and you can play your Motif live and the MPC will sequence it then you can tweak it while it's playing. It should be the same on all MPC units. Check out the Facebook group MPC Standalone Hardware Users for more on syncing the MPC to a DAW and using the sequencer from other

[@favouritethings11]

There's a slight difference

[@culturemax234]

Could you explain the difference in the 2 machines for me please I'm wondering what the difference is between the 2 considering buy one of them but don't know which one

[@deafbyhiphop]

The xl has a a tilt screen and more features. Its overall smaller and more compact whereas the classic has a big boxy design. With both you're going to have to look for whether or not they have the effects board and 8 outs upgrade as it will drive the price up on both machines. As you can see in this video the classic has a warmer more creamy sound to it whereas the xl sounds more metallic and thin. But i recommend the 2000xl the workflow is much better

[@culturemax234]

@@deafbyhiphop thanks

[@jakobole]

Why not make a null-test?

[@oussmayo]

song name? sounds crazy!

[@dianevrules]

I really dont give af about the sound. They sound similar. Even if they are not, the frequencies will be changed during mixing and mastering. 2000 is better! Had mine since 1997. Still have it and use it. Still looks brand new. Only fault that it shares with 2000xl are the development of burnt glue between digitizer and lcd and developing dead pixels over time. Other than that, they are not the same. 2000 "classic" looks better! It was the first one that was made after Roger Linn. The last one that was made by the original Akai company. Other reasons why I prefer 2000 over 2000xl: xl added the bs tilt screen. 2000 has fixed screen xl removed the digit/data wheel combo and added the bs black data wheel that you see on post-2000xl MPCs, including MPC 5000 xl shorten the mf height by 20mm xl decreased the mf weight by 2 lbs xl removed the mf air vents xl added extra bs buttons like 4 bank buttons, mute button, next sequence button. 2000 has all those abilities that can easily be accessed. xl added 200k note events to sequencer to make it 300k. xl added bs time stretching and bs bpm matching that is needed for amateurs who cant make it work manually xl added multiple program use ability to sequences. 2000 doesnt have that drum 1,2,3,4 workflow interruption bs xl added the bs ability to play 2 sequences at a time xl added folder management for a 32mb capacity MPC SMMFH xl changed the color of the open window button to some orange bs xl relocated buttons and knobs to a location above the pads. 2000 has nothing but 16 pads on the right! xl was manufactured under Akai professional M.I.Corp, which is the same company that did most of the MPCs that came after the 2000. Whereas 2000 "Classic" was manufactured under Akai Electric Co LTD, which is the same company that did every single Roger Linn MPC, S950, and a lot of other legacy Akai gear. xl removed the floppy disk OS boot requirement and placed the OS boot on a bs eprom that will eventually get corrupted and need replacement.

[@BeatsByRossi]

Diane V I LOVE YOU! 😻🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@Slingersbullseye]

@ Diane um someone's done their home studio work?:) Sheesh I needed that, couldn't decide and if I recall, I believe it was the same one Primo used in the mid 90's some of the best production on Gangstarr and Jeru and Group Home albums and yes the original Japan gear is best, that helps to know the 2000 was original Akai gear.

[@vubeatz]

I prefer 2000 classic, because xl is slower, don't You think? Also data wheel in 2k classic is the best

[@christophermiller3637]

You Selling it????

[@AfferbeckBeats]

This is such a strange comment, almost all of the things you wrote are ways that the XL is a better and more convenient machine, and the rest are petty things that don't matter. I'd buy a 2000 classic if one came up cheap but there's literally nothing I'm missing out on with the XL. It can even do things like resample at different bitrates, which takes an absurdly long time but sounds really good. The only things that annoy me about the XL are the things they prioritised in the OS - like has literally anyone ever needed the 60 different time stretch settings that sound exactly the same? When they could have given us something that would be useful to everyone like a high pass filter, or the ability to record or convert a stereo sample to summed mono instead of just splitting left and right. Two things I constantly wish it could do.

[@CC-fi3pp]

Very slight difference, not the huge thing it's made out to be on the forums but I actually prefer the XL.

[@markr6070]

XL has more hiss,I have no stake in this

[@lander.96]

There is no significant change on the sound.

[@akaixl83]

The xl with effects card solves this problem, can add that extra low end . Either one is not worth owning without the effects card imo

[@joeearz8556]

My opinion is that the difference between the two are the sequencers.

[@IljaSj]

melody 2000, drum 2000xl, I want both of them - perfect sound

[@famousarmystudio]

It’s hard to hear unless you are on good monitors. I’m on Genelec 8040s and the XL sounds more smooth on all the pitches down samples. The nonXL has a slight harsh sound that would have to be EQd out. Great vids keep’em coming

[@thegroove2000]

I loved my MPC2000 and XL but got tired of the limitations. The editing was to tedious for me but enjoyed the robustness and the sound output out of the box.. In the mix no one can tell anyway once mixed and mastered. All this can be replicated in software.

[@uoffanaan]

Have a good sofwaret journey goodbyes

[@favouritethings11]

@@uoffanaan lol

[@newphilmz3605]

Classic sounds better. XL sounds flat

[@garyknight4424]

The classic makes SND file while the xl makes waves. SND file sound a little warmer

[@uoffanaan]

Hahh 1&0

[@nic3939]

.SND has NOTHING to say about the sound. Don't know why you believing this. also the XL can make SNDs too.

[@dianevrules]

You are a stup!d b^%$. 2000 was the FIRST BREAKTHROUGH MPC EVER to offer wav files, instead of just the snd format, which is an Akai propriety format. Snd files sound the same as wav.

[@garyknight4424]

Exactly my point the 3000 and the 60 sound way better then the 2/2xl

[@CDeering]

VU!!

[@yingtianfu]

They are the SAME! Lmao!!! 😂😂😂

[@edwardmichael8337]

Hipsters in the comments lying and saying they hear the difference 😂😂😂

[@RicochetRockNice]

The 2KXL has more low end characteristics than the 2000 it’s a little more beefier than the classic if you don’t have good ears 👂 you won’t get it.

[@larrytan73]

they both have the same sample engine also the s2000... that's a fact

[@NachtSchreck13]

Its no secret that the XL versions of both the MPC and the S-series samplers don't sound as good. Cheaper components, supposedly.

[@raidernationfullmoonrecord9516]

They are the same circuits

[@JEFFMAN90]

They both sound the same to me.

[@vubeatz]

I agree, differences are minimal.

[@JEFFMAN90]

@@vubeatz Yup but there's delusional people out here who thinks that they sound different even though they're technically the same machine lol

[@Todds321]

@@JEFFMAN90 flying

[@JEFFMAN90]

@@Todds321 What?

[@phunku8888]

Same damn engine. Nothing fat about these groove boxes. Do a real comparison with the ASR-10 vs SP1200 or the MPC 3000 vs MPC 60

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

These comments are hilarious I ran both through a spectral analysis plugin videoed them then over lapped them on 50 opacity, their exactly the same YOU CRAZY CRAZY PEOPLE! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ttttiiimmy10bit]

cant tell much

[@mossomstylz]

2000 little louder and punchier.

[@theoutsideas]

lol people are delusional the have the same parts..