MPC 3 Official Release for standalone IS HERE!! Is it worth the Upgrade?? Here are my thoughts.

[@saintvoleur]

Great video dude, I love your honesty and transparency.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@saintvoleur what other way is there?

[@beatsandsamples]

Some really great points in this video. 👍🏻

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@beatsandsamples thanks mate

[@BareRareBeats]

Word!! Great points.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@BareRareBeats 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@andremiller1566]

Im a 2.15 guy. Im not attracted to 3.0. But my God. The keygroup is now basically a sample synthesis engine and I LOVE that. Gimme that in 2 please.

[@deirellbyrd6770]

The intro was very cool! Thank you Conan, I have only seen videos hyping the product so far with very minimal talk of the issues the new update brings.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@deirellbyrd6770 thanks mate. I try and keep it real.

[@IdeologieUK]

Glad your twin brother helps you out with production of these videos! 👍 Conan I’m so glad you put me onto v3.0 - I’m into the manual and the print tutorial for me as a n00b to MPC is just great! My only regret is I didn’t jump into the X SE from the off, as I see I need one now - not GAS, just common sense for me! I also notice in V3 Akai must have watched your videos on templates and as such there are efx pre-loaded and busses set up - did you notice?

[@chrisbowmusic]

If you get the NI plugins, dont forget to change the content drive to your SSD, SD, etc. Initially, I mistakenly installed all 3 NI plugins in my MPC-X SE internal drive. The sample content is not as large as the Kontakt versions, but still ate up quite a bit of space.

[@tupapa7230]

Looking forward to your follow up vid after you've had a chance to dig in. Appreciate your efforts sir 💯👊🏻✌🏻

[@TheCratesMotel]

Thank you mate. Yeh I am looking forward to digging in more.

[@kennethpiercy6935]

Appreciate the honesty. Reminds me of when stems came out, I got it and it’s totally useless on the standalone from my experience. I will stick with the MPC2 that i still understand, I just got comfortable with it including after watching many of your videos

[@saintvoleur]

I love the disclaimer in the description lol 😂

[@manatee_flips6811]

Thank you for the run-through. I do look forward to using this new 3.0 upgrade, but I need the software update as well as standalone. I did love using NI plug-ins and instruments when I ran with Cubase back in the early 2000's, Battery and the bass program (I forgot the name) were amazing. My mind is kinda BLOWN!!💨

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@manatee_flips6811 I think there is a lot of scope for things in the future if both companies work together.

[@jonpaulhollingsworth4732]

Look fwd to this content, its all great stuff, but used a 2000xl and an eps16+ for nearly 20 years and was amazed with that. its hard to find things to complain about when you can pick up an mpc one, used for £300, with so many possibility's!

[@Toastfacekillah87]

Omg they fixed the issue i have with zooming in. Sometimes i wanted to take out little pops and getting the screen to focus on the selection was frustrating. Finally fixed for me 😮

[@TheCratesMotel]

A positive. This is good!

[@Bassman7007]

how is it fixed for you? For me with 3.4.1 in grid mode the q- links are non longer assigned to horizontal/vertical zoom. It’s driving me nuts

[@bkv384]

We're still missing time signatures in 3.x!

[@TheCratesMotel]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@leogolive]

I mothballed my Maschine and switched to the MPC X for a reason. I love my MPC and don’t miss Maschine or anything from Native Instruments AT ALL.

[@R-sn1ty]

I kinda miss the pads. maybe I just need more time to adjust to the akai style pads

[@leogolive]

@@R-sn1ty You know I can’t lie I felt the same way at first. I used to hear about how great the MPC pads were and when I got it I liked the Maschine pads better. Maybe because I’d had it so long and they were broken in lol! I still don’t love the feel of the pads and I may change them out but I’m nitpicking. Besides that I don’t have one single complaint about the MPC and don’t miss my Maschine at all.

[@davidneau8830]

Thanks for the honest point of view on mpc3 in your video. I'm still in mpc 2 because some of this fundamental issues, like time signature, or MPC software controller comptability. I've had to wait again. It seems so weird that they stop the fact to choose tiome signature. I think it would be easier in mpc3, and it's not even there. So I will wait.

[@TheCratesMotel]

It’s very odd especially as it was already there in 2.

[@davidneau8830]

@@TheCratesMotel thanks for your answer. Yes, I didn't understand why it disappears. They try to do DAW-like firmware, but every daw let you choose time signature. And in the MPC2, you can have in same sequence different time signature. it was so rare to have that. It was a real plus for MPC to me.

[@a.k.8731]

All true. Totally agree.

[@dedude5864]

More mpc3 videos .🙏😊 exactly what I need. ty.

[@rmriwatch]

Good video, looking for the follow ups, keep up the good work.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Thanks mate

[@leogolive]

Love the intro man!!!

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@leogolive haha you’re the only person to comment on it. I thought I’d have a bit of fun.

[@leogolive]

@@TheCratesMotel I’ve been meaning to ask since we’re talking about the intro. How do you make the sounds in your intro when your logo comes onto the screen? How did you design those sounds?

[@TheCratesMotel]

@ it’s actually from a bunch of old radio jingles mate.

[@leogolive]

@@TheCratesMotel Oh ok!

[@TheStaubzauger]

I will only upgrade to 3.0 if you approve Conan… waiting to pull the trigger, but not just yet committed

[@TheCratesMotel]

Yeh maybe give it a little time to settle if you are apprehensive.

[@MichaelJ023]

I’ve spent the last several months finally getting the hang of 2.xx as I’m new to the MPC coming from Logic Pro and Reason. It’s been a slog. Honestly I feel like I’ll be starting over if I upgrade to 3.0. I’m not interested in the NI plug-ins anyway. This video helps me feel like I’m doing the right thing.

[@TheCratesMotel]

It will always be there if you need it, and you can always downgrade if you’re not feeling it. Akai I definitely got that part right.

[@Trioptic3D]

Great video! I made the switch January 1st to beta 3. I'm enjoying it so far. The new public release and NI integration is cool, nice bonus. I do wonder why they rushed to release the official version if there are so many unresolved issues. I would like to see a behind the scenes video from Akai addressing the whole beta 3 thing. The Andy Mack beat making videos are cool. Content creators like yourself and other forums are cool but I wonder why Akai or inmusic hasn't put out a video addressing this. I'm not a computer programmer, I'm sure there is a lot that goes into coding and testing but if some things worked prior, I'd like to know what broke them or make them buggy in 3. 🤔

[@TheCratesMotel]

I would pay to see that video haha

[@sedd1234]

I'm waiting for someone to upload a video demonstrating how well the NI plugins work before EVEN considering getting them... i haven't found any footage of it being used in an arrangement yet to see the CPU usage / ram usage which makes me suspicious it's gonna be on par or even heavier than fabric XL.

[@TheCratesMotel]

I totally agree mate. That is why I mention that I do not really know how well they have been optimized to work on the MPC. I want to dig deeper. I need to experiment. I will definitely make a video once I know more.

[@seekabs]

Tefty music tech went into that a little in his video on it.

[@remyvegamedia]

I just maxed out my plugin limit and had two drum tracks, but I wasn't using a lot of effects, and it got ot about 55% CPU and 65% memory for me. I made a 4 bar loop, 3 sequences, and did some automation with the Native Instruments plugins, Flexbeat Player, and pad mutes. It was handling it pretty well, but the presets take a few seconds to load up, similar to Stage Piano and EP. It was a little sluggish, but not too bad overall. I honestly expected it to be worse haha.

[@jsutton241]

You get a free 10 day trail. Download them yourself and try them out

[@user-wy5kv5hg1o]

Loopop has a video with a bit of comparisons.. Not the exact same sounds..

[@joserivera1054]

I got rid of my Maschine and got the mpc live and then the live 2 and never went back. But I've saved all of my Kontact library.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@joserivera1054 that could come in handy in the future. I still have all my Kontakt libraries.

[@BIG1TOWER]

In my opinion it is a much better experience than the previous version. The arrangement is a big deal in my workflow.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Yeh mate the arrangement and mixer are fantastic upgrades.

[@sinewaymusic]

Appreciate your subjective take. My biggest concern right now is not knowing if there's even a plan for the MPC3 VST, which is essential for my workflow of transitioning to Ableton Live without having to commit to printed audio stems. They would do themselves a big favor by being more transparent about these things, rather than labeling MPC3 "the future of standalone workflow". There's not even a single mention along the lines of "coming soon", which bets the question: is it coming at all?

[@user-wy5kv5hg1o]

3:23 craked me up 😂

[@TheCratesMotel]

Hahaha

[@InvisibleElements]

Everything works good enough for me, I'm enjoying using Mpc 3 & the new NI plugins. I just wish that Akai would change the opening splash screen when turning the unit on.

[@TheCratesMotel]

That’s good to hear mate.

[@Roland_Tr909_Swing]

Well said

[@TheCratesMotel]

Thanks mate. I wanted to put some subjectivity in there and not just read the press release out online lol

[@Dr4gnDr0p]

I never bothered with the beta testing but I installed the mpc 3.4 last night after work and I gotta say I like the new GUI,it's logical to use and simpler and faster,I did have some trouble finding return fx channels til I realized u can swipe along on mixer page lol,I did notice that separating some stems in stand alone took a lot longer than before,but so far it seems like a good update

[@TheCratesMotel]

There are definitely improvements and there is definitely room for improvement.

[@Dr4gnDr0p]

@TheCratesMotel oh definitely,tbf I remember the 1st few firmware versions when I first got my mpc had some a awful bugs so hopefully with time we will get to a place where everything works as expected 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-wy5kv5hg1o]

Anybody knows? can it be downgraded if mpc3 is not for me?... Time signatures.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Yes mate, it can be downgraded really easily in less than a minute.

[@user-wy5kv5hg1o]

@@TheCratesMotel thank you, good to know. will be updating this weekend to finally see what all the fuss is about

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@user-wy5kv5hg1o I switch between the two all the time mate as I often have to work on client projects who are still using 2.15

[@BradleyDrop]

I have heard that during the beta one of the bugs was not being able to sync other midi devices. Is this true and if so was this issue resolved?

[@matthewgaines10]

I appreciate you and your perspective. I don’t think they fixed the problems I have with it wrecking old projects. Song mode would unmute all my mutes leaving me to try to reverse engineer what I did in the first place. A lot of old projects would have to be treated the same way. Probably over hundred hours to make my old projects work with the new software. Not feeling it. I’ll try it like I did the betas but I forsee using MPC 2 in the near term. I have a Kurzweil PC4 and Roland Integra 7 along with various small synths. I really don’t need NI plugins. They may be nice but I often switch between hardware and software MPC and I need everything to be compatible with the desktop. Besides, I track out from the MPC software to Ableton Live, Studio One, Cubase to finish things off. That’s problematic unless I just want the stem data and not the MIDI data. I compose so I really want the MIDI. I do change time signatures sometimes. It all seems like this newer firmware wasn’t all thought out.

[@TheCratesMotel]

I completely agree with all your points mate. The time signature thing is a massive school boy error in my opinion.

[@matthewgaines10]

@@TheCratesMotel Akai just decided to send it, for better or worse.

[@seanhenriques808]

Really appreciate your point of view. As you pointed things out I couldn’t help but think the leadership managing the delivery are a bit inexperienced in delivering mission critical software. Pushing out nice to have enhancements when issues that should be gating remain are the sign of green hires IMHO.

[@IMakeBeats]

Ya i agree, the new stuff looks so cool! And i do understand that there is always the hope with new gear and or new software, that it functions as intended. But as for me, my workflow in 2.15 is flawless. I did try the beta and decided to go back to 2.15. Just alittle too buggy 🐛 for me. Im more comfortable with a more reliable OS. We’ve had the 2.0 format for so long that its hard to leave that back of the hand eyes 👀 closed workflow for a few new bells 🔔 that dont work well. My confidence just isnt there for now in the new upgrades. Hopefully that will change down the road 🚘 but its really great to see 2 companies come together and collaborate.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Yeh mate, that’s fair enough. I think a lot of people feel the same way.

[@Dmogul]

If I had two MPC’s it would be easy to upgrade one to the 3.4 so that I could still have my workflow on one and slowly learn the new stuff on the other.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@ yes I’m lucky enough to have that scenario and it was a great help.

[@drewtempler]

I've been loving 3 for months now...but at the risk of sounding repetitive...the time signature issue is Fking ridiculous. Seems pretty straightforward to me, why the hell didn't we get it now...geez...

[@rejistry]

Love that you don't mince your words. I'm not that impressed either. Those NI plugins are honestly just ROMplers in my opinion. Also, it seems like the clips mode is gone. Haven't updated mine yet. I think could wait for another 6 months ✌🏽

[@TheCratesMotel]

There are definitely still some issues mate. I don't want to mislead people into thinking everything from the beta has been resolved.

[@djantix1200]

Def. stoked for this and have updated my MPC One yesterday. Not very cool that they did not include a couple NI instruments for free. I realize they want to sell them but the update should have included a couple at no charge. Anyway, I'm still having fun with it and I would never sell my MPC.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Yes I was literally just saying to somebody else, at least a lite version of a plugin for free would have been nice on launch.

[@djantix1200]

@@TheCratesMotel For now, I have downloaded them as a trial and will bounce the sounds to audio if I use them in a track so I won't lose anything after the trial period is up! lol

[@razordefined]

I can’t tell you how excited I was. Rushed home updated. Purchased new plugins and went to start desktop software and use mpc x se as vst and still not in 3.0…what…are you kidding. Ruined what I had planned

[@SimonPhoenix3]

I’m happy I started MPC late so the 3.0 beta wasn’t so jarring. I’ve been having a ball since it dropped

[@chubbyboy2242]

Will my projects from 2 get screwed up if I upgrade and load them in 3.0?

[@eddiexx]

loading them wont make anything to them, when saving though, then you got to save them to a separate place/folder or however you choose to do regularly.

[@88keyz]

Yeah I'll wait until black Friday possibly

[@TheCratesMotel]

And hopefully by then there will be way more to choose from.

[@sirsilver1968]

God its so much snappier in arranger mode that was evident immediately to me, the loop brace is much more responsive.

[@ollierobbins7316]

Great video as always. Can anyone compare analogue sounds vs the jura pluggin? I've had Jura and it's great for 80s analogue sounds. Is there any point getting analogue dreams if I have Jura?

[@jasondugas8184]

Its still in "beta", when the software and hardware are on the same version I'd see that as a real version of the OS

[@e-conrecords4665]

Amazing that OS 3.4 doesn’t do 3/4 time signatures. I couldn’t move over to the new OS even if I wanted to as I have songs cooking in 3/4.

[@MushyBrainBeats]

This whole keygroub-thing is crazy but I really miss programs.. The arranger is cool but I am not that hyped, because It doesn't give the MPC any new capabilities. I am used to building many beats or "sketches" inside one project. I loved how every sequence could be its own little thing. Also for live-looping, beatsets and performing in front of an audience. I need to be able to set up the Instruments from sequence to sequence on different tracks. I think the update killed something by adding limitations. I understand that some people are loving the new mixer, but for me the 16Pads-Layout made much more sense. At least for the pad-mixer. Not sure if I will get back to the older firmware, but it really takes time to get used to. At one point I will have to downgrade because I worked in a different way and there are still many projects on my harddrive that I need to record.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@MushyBrainBeats All good points mate

[@BL-zw5oi]

I upgraded and immediately downgraded back to 2.xx because some of my beats were missing sounds and sequences… I’ll get all my beats tracked out and then maybe upgrade to 3.0 later. Hopefully it’s a bug that will get fixed later.

[@ceetronic]

I love firmware 3.0, but currently not loving the NI plugins for the original MPC One. Basically too slow to load presets to be usable. I mean, fair enough, it has the least memory of the product range, but it's a shame they put it under the supported list when it's frustrating as hell to use. The presets I did try did sound great though.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@ceetronic yeh mate I’m the same lol. I feel your pain.

[@siuuep7456]

Might update to mpc3 and give it again a shot, the beta was a mess and when I‘ve heard 3.X is out I thought „hopefully they fixed at least the mpc 2 projects file issue“ Well I‘ve read that its getting better but not fully fixed. Thats a huge buh, I often load old projects just for fun and when I‘ll do it in 3.0 my old once mostly will sound like I don‘t know what I‘m doing on the thing… Even this might be fixed I‘m scared to update + the downgrade button is now hidden, you need to do this manually which is another boomer while 3.0 is still buggy af…

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@siuuep7456 it’s definitely still buggy mate 100 %

[@auralplex]

Where the fkkk is the desktop software??? I don’t use the mpc in standalone. It’s too limited for my use. I need all my plugins.

[@riddim7774]

I’m going back to 2.10, and staying on it! 😅

[@leogolive]

That’s what I did😂

[@karlofandango6108]

Crazy that they forgot about time signatures. Flabbergasted

[@Casey-cq9xp]

I've been on the beta since day one, and I love it, but it's almost like they had a deadline deal with Native Instruments, and decided to drop beta from the title, as it still feels like a beta to me. I get that most MPC users use 4/4 time signatures, but come on.

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@Casey-cq9xp I totally agree mate. That’s basically what I was trying to convey. It’s not ready.

[@Bambra]

I think if you own some ni plug-ins then Akai it would be nice to maybe give users a discounted version for MPC version ?;Just saying 😜

[@ZZEROO99]

Time Signatures are taught in the basic fundamentals of music. Still don't understand why it not in the 3.0 software, to me its a huge disappointment for calling this the official release.

[@NicleT]

Well, not all bugs emerged from new features added in 3. Some of the serious bugs were things that worked very well in 2.x, for instance MMC MIDI communication I/O worked flawlessly before, but is totally unusable in 3. So for me, as a professional musician and as an Akai supporter for many years, it feels like they launched a version with some flashy candies almost to cover up the non-addressed bugs. I'm very disappointed.

[@sederquest]

Always had some bugs before 3.0 You’d think they had it sorted like and now there’s more issues What kinda company is this Seriously regretting even buying mpc live 2… could’ve bought half decent laptop and a daw that works for the same price or less Want pads, I could’ve just bought a controller and probably had enough for a midi keyboard leftover 😅

[@wirklich_niemand]

NI just gave declared the war is over. and they didn't win lol.

[@wul01]

Said it before it’s all smoke n mirrors. Unfortunately they are good at it, unlike their devs who are not good at it.

[@TheCratesMotel]

Hahaha

[@foolhardby]

track edit

[@espacemaxim]

Doesn't sound too good....

[@eddiexx]

watched the Tubedigga video and he showed some of the added functionality on the sampler side. To me it was very underwhelming, and i really dont care about NI packs, I wish they perfected the auto-sampler. isnt that the core and soul of a sampler?! What about perfecting that instead of turning it into a "rompler". It doesn't have to clash with their apparent need to sell us mediocre plugins and sample packs and fx. Making our own keygroups and sample our DAW vsts, both drum libraries and synths in a perfect way, that would be development imo. Cheers

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@eddiexx I agree mate

[@turbinenraum9476]

NI stuff should be free. Akai software is outgrowing hardware.

[@TheCratesMotel]

I think it would have been a nice gesture to offer at least a Lite NI plugin for free on launch.