MPC Stems "Delayed" and Everyone is Pissed!

AKAI announced MPC Stems back in January and everyone is pissed off (or at least some people are upset). I want to address it in a shorter video about why it's delayed & why people are mad.
MPC Stems info: www.akaipro.com/stems.html
MPC Stems announcement video: • MPC STEMS: A NEW ERA ...

[@ryboogz7770]

I would rather wait until Akai has it corrected than getting it and it doesn’t work correctly. Just be patient. If you can’t wait then there’s other options you can use. Great video Ave👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

[@rorz999]

Yep, totally agree. We complain when stuff is released unfinished because it was rushed. So we shouldn't complain when companies take their time to get something right. Plus it's very much a first world problem!

[@bboymac84]

Exactly!! I rather wait until the quality and usability is easy and fast!

[@ryboogz7770]

I’ve haven’t complained about Akai since I’ve been using their products. I started off with the s950, then the 2000, Renaissance and live. What ever comes along and I can use it by them well I’m going to stand by them

[@WriteJus]

I agree 100% with you. I think the problem is that they are the ones that created the anticipation. They should of waited if things weren't ready yet. Either way, the patience will be worth it.

[@ryboogz7770]

@@rorz999 You know people still are going to complain. But I stick by Akai

[@pelvinsjamz]

I’m happy to wait for an amazing update 🔥

[@johnnyparker2128]

MPC Stems is the new Detox

[@AveMcree]

lol too funny

[@sibagiba]

😂😂😂

[@sibagiba]

Maybe N.I. will release an Maschine update and come with a Stem Sep before MPC comes out with their software.

[@rashadhaynes5690]

In Dr.Dre (voice) Hell Yeah!

[@robertprince2651]

This is a golden comment!

[@Hithoundbeats]

I will get it when it comes out. I will wait. Gotta get my MPC game up anyway.

[@InsideOutBeats]

Good mindset to have there man! I’ve tried to put it out my mind but it’s such a game changer and keeps popping back up. It’ll be here when it’s here and I as all of us can’t bloody wait, gonna open up some crazy creativity and that can only be a good thing 🔥

[@MPC452]

They should have waited to announce. Especially they knew it wasn't ready. Announce and release same day.

[@jasontaylor404]

At least a week out prior to approving the last version that was beta tested and working properly.

[@drebone1986]

I'm gonna assume that they found a bug and had to backtrack, I mean we never see anyone in any video load up the software and then start the stems so maybe it's not stable enough as Ave was saying, it didn't even work on his M1 Mac so it's gotta be a game breaking bug

[@djdannyiLL]

Well said Ave. Thanks for sharing your perspective. We shall continue to patiently wait. AKAI 2024 Let's get it 🚀

[@twista101287]

For me I just hate that companies do this when they have something new on their hands and they don't even know if it wrks properly or not and then they flex it to all the customers and end up lagging it for 2 years or so

[@BritoWorx]

I think due to the wait they’ll release both software and hardware simultaneously.

[@sirsilver1968]

This is what I'm hoping as well

[@musicfan2135]

This is what I hope happens.

[@desoakley7760]

But the hardware is already here !

[@FanofMusic86]

​@@desoakley7760 What do you mean?

[@keithmurray9241]

@@FanofMusic86 Guessing he's suggesting as I have... that the MPC hardware already exists and sorting out a bug should be straight-forward when you're dealing with a proprietary hardware platform like the MPC's.

[@fredicagoillanoise1309]

I believe Akai used the lure of MPC Stems to stimulate the sales of the MPC Key 37. 😒

[@jayeday813]

Facts!

[@CMane]

They got exactly what they wanted too. Ppl salivating over the MPC Key 37. 👀😂💯

[@satoshislim863]

Thx 4 sharing the info you did share. I have a Serato Studio subscription. Soon as MPC releases, I'm dropping that sub. But, I'm patient enough... Shiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee, I'm still waitin on Detox. LOL

[@KaiBoogie718]

Didn’t know I needed it.. but know that I know about it, it feels like I can’t seem to not want to create without it.. 😢

[@klisher]

I went back and checked the Akai website about 5th Feb to see when it was coming out and it said March even back then ( i saw it said Feb when you posted the original video.)

[@iamraybeatz]

What if Akai drops 3.0 and Stems at the same time 🤔

[@rbwduece1]

The sound quality output of stem separation software is subpar anyway

[@pini440]

Shit not if you banging wit it

[@ruffrog]

Bloody good video, thank you for the explanation

[@Sikoh6]

It would be convenient to have in my MPCs but I'm willing to wait for them to clean it up and get all the bugs out before release. I definitely don't want to install an expansion that bricks my gear because they're rushing to get it out.

[@starjamlounge]

I have an MPC ONE and I love it ! But I had a terrible experience with Akai customer service. I bought the AIR JURA but I wasn't able to install it on my MPC, the support agent told me that my internet connection was the problem and stopped replying to my emails. I have sent them several tickets and even asked for a refund several times but they never answered me back. Because of that, I am not sure I want to buy the MPC Stems when it comes out, even though I was pretty hyped at first. Thanks Ave, love your content, Peace !

[@Eli_B3000]

It's a massive pain to install things like the Jura. Sometimes it works right away but for me most of the time it's just a 20 step process that should be a lot easier.

[@goodmandan9481]

I'm being patient just like you brotha it will come sooner or later, I'll just keep using my monthly on serato if I really need too

[@park171]

I still have issue with MPC 2.13 running stable on my M1 MacBook Pro, hogs too much CPU. Anyone else having the same issues?

[@Ra_Sharpness_]

Hope u are well dude haven't heard from ya in a bit. I have a question about hardware and fl studio. Have you ever notice fl changing the sound on hardware when using the midi out plugin?

[@neoSoulLofi]

I'm heated, but it actually is a good thing my opinion, because when it finally drops, if it isn't perfect it will be a huge L and people may pivot to existing stems that are out here

[@cappaofficial]

Glad i came across this My dumba** was over looking for it like "Why ion have it" lol Thanks G

[@geoffwidmier3714]

It is interesting that they would advertise Stems and mention a release timeframe, and then not be able to release it on time. I would love to hear the back story. This situation is such a self own. Nobody would have anything to complain about if they had not teased us.

[@djrage73]

Exactly!

[@EverettVinzant]

It doesn’t work that way. They were likely some level of complete with what they were working on. Let’s guess 75%. When they got to 80% they realized there were problems, bugs, something didn’t behave as expected… So now they are actually 66% of the way along. Writing software is not an exact science that always behaves as expected. They have to balance memory and CPU use, which can take a lot of finessing.

[@dilliot2k]

After the converter thing of last year, not being included in new releases as of late, I've developed sort of a thicker skin for Akai. I've learned to less emotionally invest myself in releases like this because a the end of the day , I'm gonna make music regardless. The bells can only be jingled so many times. Teasing is okay, but teasing to much turns in to something played.

[@MusicianParadise]

I'm quite alright with the delay. This is new technology, and it might take some time to perfect. On my older Intel Mac, Serato Sample takes a while to separate the stems, so I'm surprised they decided to implement that at all, especially on standalone machines.

[@Offsure]

Hello, how long have you been making beats? I'm in Florida. Where are you located?

[@FATBOTB4life]

I bet this has something to do with record companies not liking this and what it will do to sampling and clearances.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@oracularmusic]

I think that’s a far cry. Think about the hundreds of other stem separators out there without any issue

[@FATBOTB4life]

@@oracularmusicyeah that’s just my opinion. I’ve used stem separation like Moises and a couple other ones. This just seems different, and it’s on your production equipment….the demos I’ve seen look pretty cool. I can’t imagine that music companies or music ip holders will like it because how do you pin point a uncleared sample?🤷🏾‍♂️

[@oracularmusic]

@@FATBOTB4lifeI see what your saying that it’s on your production equipment, but to play the devils advocate, allllot of people produce with just their DAW and nothing else - therefore all of those vsts (including Serato, Rip-X, and other stem separators) are right on the music production equipment also. I don’t personally think it’s a legal thing but we’re all only speculating

[@FATBOTB4life]

@@oracularmusic true true you got a point

[@stevechase2232]

Had the same thought

[@djcoolcliff]

Wow I just search for the realest date today and was on the same vibe bro!!!!!!!! Lol!!!

[@jessexjeremiah]

I think it was announced to help boost sales for the MPC Keys 37. But stems is going to be so worth the wait!

[@oracularmusic]

How do you figure it would work in favor of the sales of Keys 37 while it’s going to be available on all units?

[@jessexjeremiah]

@@oracularmusic Well the Keys 37 was used in the official picture on the stems page. People we're debating what the new mpc was. It was announced not long after that photo made it's rounds. Definitely created some buzz.

[@oracularmusic]

@@jessexjeremiah Right but they had to advertise it somehow. It makes total sense to me to use their latest product to showcase it

[@MetatronsCube23]

How much is there to fix, there are other people on youtube using it for the past two months now.

[@MakeLifeExtraordinary]

April 10 and we still do not have stems for the MPC units themselves. Just for the PC software. Someone who is using the PC software question whether or not might be possible on the units, based off of how much memory it was using on the PC. Obviously there is overhead on the PC, so that’s probably the reason. But it makes me wonder the viability of the software on the unit with only 4 GB of memory shared across the projects and the plug-ins. Would love to hear your opinion on it.

[@rashadhaynes5690]

I've been patiently waiting for mpc stems since the email they first sent me but at the same time serato samples and rip-X I have both of them and I am happy knowing it's coming but at least let us know what is going on

[@e-dub808]

Probably going to be worth the wait & hopefully it will work better than the others. (I have only tried the Koala separator) & hopefully it will be compatible with The FORCE🤞

[@Mar.Escobar24]

This was definitely done to hype up sales of the MPC Key 37. Been waiting on Stems since it was first announced. The closest I have to this is the neural mix on the Djay app. The quickest stem separation for a mix, but in order to use it, I have to use music I have either bought or downloaded on my phone. It’d be nice if I could put my records to use with it since I’d rather have the sound and feel of the vinyl instead of having to buy and download a song I already got. Either way, still gon wait and see what’s to come.

[@timklitsch9815]

I think they're pissed that someone leaked it was going to be $10 now they have to figure out what they have to change on the program to add a higher price like $40 to the plug-in

[@cortezdevinci]

I’m literally waiting for this to drop so I can finish my 4th album 😢

[@0072gldnfngr]

How cool would it be if they were done with it and were literally waiting to release it on the 29th!? Hear me out, marketing is a mf. History is a mf. For the genre and their brand, that would be really neat and one for the books! That said, I am okay with waiting for a good, clean and stable feature. Lastly, I don’t blame you for anything man. You were doing what you were supposed to. Bringing info to the ppl. Thanks Ave!

[@denkron3032]

Dude, tell me when this comes out, I can't stop thinking about this feature?

[@Davinciblack_]

Why is it so easy for image line to drop but not mpc?

[@certifiedbeatz]

Listen we should definitely enjoy the wait the long the better bug wise

[@tonysalter5555]

Originally, I was pissed at the announcement. About two weeks after buying Izotope's RX10 to do stem separations for samples, Akai makes the announcement. Now, could care less whether is shows up or not. Don't really need it, it'll be a nice to have to an already have.

[@MrDHarewood]

I am looking forward to using the feature. However, I am fine with the delay if it means it will function properly. I don’t want the creative flow to be interrupted by glitches and crashes.

[@VillyMarlou]

Do you think the delay is technical, like on the code level, or is it some legal issue?

[@TommyTrentonJr]

maaan i hope it isant legal issues...

[@detroitredofficial]

I get the issues they are having with the software and I think the level of teaser videos that I saw didn’t show it being used in the software but in standalone mode. So I figured the standalone version would be available faster. Either way, this is certainly the dilemma with social media - and I can’t remember where I saw the price and the release time, but once it was mentioned, we clung to it like scripture!! I’ll wait for my email from Akai in the meantime!

[@rickywashington2594]

yeah i want Akai to get it right!!! i can wait!!!!!!

[@kymlittlefield4389]

Yo in the big videos they said march. They didn’t say March 1. It’s still march for more than three Weeks.

[@beatcraftsecrets]

Quick thing about Macs being preferred; Once upon a time, my midi controller (whatever at the time, Akai MPD24, Mkey keyboard, whatever brand hard drive etc)would be working when I finished the day. But wake up tomorrow, fire up my DAW, "di ding, di ding" (driver requires update). Sometimes it was a quick fix, most times it was soul draining process of trying to figure out why the update is not working, midi controller not working, library of sounds failing because external hard drive is no longer working. That was many years ago. Went Mac and never had that problem again. Just saying, on the humble.

[@drebone1986]

Of course I'm sore that it's delayed but looking at the history of this fandom I understand, they want to get it right and then feed it to the people. We can wait for that I hope

[@tyjakkty8668]

yer im pissed i went and purchased the mpc one + and im still waiting for the stem software.but im shore it will be worth it

[@MyFullers]

Mpc website still saying March.

[@ToniJXN]

Just bought the mpc key 37 because I thought it will have the stem feature

[@themrworldwide]

Oh boy. 😂😂😂😂 You're dead wrong a.k.a you've been tricked. 😂😂😂😂

[@ToniJXN]

@@themrworldwide they got me 🤣 but I got 30 days to test it, if stems not coming I'm sending it back 😜

[@OD_Adventures]

I rather wait till they fix all the bugs than be upset with a rush release and then cry about bugs , that’s just me

[@endoflevelboss]

Just you? No I think that's just 99% of users

[@PROFESSORGRIMM03]

Glad that its march and I think they will release both software and standalone this month

[@BIG1TOWER]

Serato is good on the mac

[@blacklegacyassets]

At least ur keeping it 💯

[@aro7975]

I thought it was already there. I saw people using it?

[@iameags]

In the email I got from Akai it said it was going to be release in March 5th. oh well we just have to wait a bit longer not a big deal.

[@themrworldwide]

We all signed up on the akaipro website for the stems notification and yet none of us has gotten any email from akai about a release date, you must be special i guess, just saying.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@mftnbeats]

This situation is like a much more tampered down version of what happened with the SP-404 MK2. Where every content creator and their mom had access to it but customers had to wait months to get their hands on it. For us as music creators, we will have to be patient. A stable product is better than a rushed one. I think the companies that make these products, much like the gaming industry, should hold off on the aggressive marketing until they know for sure that the product will be out soon.

[@jamalharrison6421]

Damn Ave I've been using the MPC LIVE2 for about 2 years since my PC went down and I had to stop using FL studio for a while.

[@djgarybmixesit]

People need to just chill if you a long time Akai head you know there is always a delay with Akai you just gotta wait until they drop it, if they drop it now and it has issues then ya'll gonna be big mad lol that it don't work, wait til it's released and just chill for now.

[@tee2008j]

Oh I would wait no rush when Akai gets there Ish together with a stable build then its on and popping I paid the 149 for serato sample and I am sure serato is tinkering with there product as well and no worries Ave.... Loop years are confusing 😁 and yes its disheartening but if you want something good for 10 or even 100 dollars you want it to function Big Up the MPC family Stems is coming at least we got to see what it is and that's even a blessing...

[@beedubonthebeat]

Its coming out Feb 30th

[@AveMcree]

can't wait!

[@MentPlus]

Hope its worth the wait 😅

[@tavenner07]

Honestly, I hope the delay also has to do with being able to split stems directly from the standalone hardware. Part of the appeal of standalone is not having to connect to my computer.

[@redviagra]

A lot of people bought the 37 because of the stems in the video? Is this considered sue worthy false advertisement? It was working in the 37 videos.

[@oracularmusic]

But it isn’t exclusive to the Keys 37 and they never claimed it to be. I’ve also seen the beta or whatever running on other units in other videos too. I don’t recall them ever using stems as a selling point for the 37 at all. That’s just the unit they chose to tease it with since it’s their latest piece of hardware, makes sense to me

[@rawstrengthsociety1819]

It’s coming out in March almost sounds like when an album drops late and not on the release date 😂

[@circuitboard283]

Just bought a MPC X SE after 20 years had a 2000xl. Waiting for this and now...PIST...!!!!

[@hypemode1591]

Can‘t wait. Meanwhile it hurts 😅

[@ToddBryantsr]

As a data scientist, I can tell you that stems separation is a complex operational task in and of itself, but what concerned me about the release announcement and the subsequent hype is the sheer diversity of musical styles and genres that need to be considered. Beyond that, inMusic made announcements across their product family, where there Denon DJ Prime 4+ platform also is expecting the feature. The good news is that Prime 4+ users have a beta that we can play around with, but it still has a way to go. My hope is that they nail it on the MPC One and inMusic tightens their integration between the P4+ and the MPC to make a killer combination. Great video. Thanks for keeping a level head.

[@7thangelz]

i just got a ren and i wouldn't get it yet even if it was ready, just in case there's update issues. Ripx daw does the job and probably better for me as i also have my eps classic for my main samples going into the ren

[@angelaferkel5614]

Will there be an mpc live 3 soon ?

[@Slew1966]

Man…I want it RIGHT, than just getting it. I plan to use my MPC One as a VST for Maschine 2 software.

[@Socialhackpodcast]

All your thoughts are fair enough! When!!!!

[@Romelle81]

I ordered the MPC one plus over the weekend and got it yesterday.Had been wanting an mpc since the earlier 2000s. I bought the maschine , and later the maschine studio...but never really got into either one. I knew a standalone was what I really needed. Having the stems separation was the deciding factor because I have serato, and even virtual dj for stems. I was holding off until it was possible in a drum machine. I can't wait til they release it, but I'm good right now because I'm still just learning the device. I could probably just sample stems from virtual dj on my tablet, into the one plus with the right audio cable 😂

[@matthewmcnamarabeats7182]

Congratulations on your Mpc. I have had the live 2 for a few years now and I love it

[@mr.mr.3662]

it will come out this month

[@CharysseSepiaBlackman11]

Good Afternoon. Do you still give courses? I have the Akai MPC ONE + and I need to learn how to use it. Please help. ☀️🎵🍃

[@themrworldwide]

Tutorials enough on youtube, just look for it.

[@nalaeel219]

I’m tryna get on that Akai drip

[@Nonsense913]

All the links said it was releasing in February 2024 though.... I would rather for it to be fully working when its released though. The early mpc's that worked with computers had 100's of bugs.

[@DABOOMBAPAUDIOSHOW]

it would be real nice if we can let the analog console channels out into the midi channels of the mpc daw so we can have control over on board efx

[@DABOOMBAPAUDIOSHOW]

what you think ave ?

[@mr.mr.3662]

They said it comes out in March

[@thomasmatthews8873]

I will be glad when it comes but I work it out without stems on the 37 in the meantime.

[@cortezdevinci]

I agree with everything u said

[@mountaveprod]

they need a bpm sync button as simple as Serato , sync? yes no, turn on drums or not? simple

[@5al5ap3n15]

All the MPC Stems side boob has me a lil messed up that it’s not out yet lmao

[@REMRODFILMS]

all the teasers are def the problem, if its out release it to everybody who has spent money, but its no rush bc serato sample is still the best option on the market. only worth using in stand alone.

[@Flaytt744]

What dissapoints me, is AKAI is putting the cart before the horse.They are marketing their new Keyboard with stems, because they knew Korg was going to rule at NAMM 2024. It is a cheap trick..they should not announce that dinner is ready, when they do not want to bring it out of the kitchen.

[@SuperLinuxAudioGuru]

My best guess is that AKAI machines with 2GB of RAM ( e.g ONE+ ) is giving them the most work. Most Linux OS can spread the workload to virtual RAM ( SWAP ), but this is slower, as I say just guessing , but they are prob trying to find the best balance between speed of operation and having the MPC software stable and fast that suits all the MPC machines.

[@dn30001]

yeah...Stem processing is a TALL order based on the hardware processing specs of these MPCs. I originally thought that the standalone stem processing would most likelhy utilize cloud processing.

[@SuperLinuxAudioGuru]

@@dn30001 For sure, I have noticed that FL and Tracktion Waveform both use demucs and it deffo works all cores of the CPU hard. You may be onto something about it being cloud based, we will just have to wait and see :)

[@stevechase2232]

March 20th. Still no Stems...

[@labr.]

¿now whennnnn??

[@dreamstaticsounds]

Of course they need to make sure and nail it. I mean... as much as they CAN nail it. But ultimately, why did they let a date get out there if it wasn't even ready? Akai makes no sense so much of the time.

[@virgilsstudio]

Akai is not stupid. Newsflash, they aren't trying to figure things out and are just trying their best to get things right before the release. The "Upgrade" works fine, more than likely without bugs. It's why we have seen samples of how it works. The technology isn't new, it's happening all over the place. My bet is that their marketing department has had this planned out for quite some time and they'll probably drag it out for another month or two because they feel this is their "ace in the hole" against Maschine and other competitors and if they can get the buzz going, which they've already done, they can score big time. It's just another technology that we already have access to and can simply import the stems into the unit. 🤷‍♂️

[@dubmaverick69]

Its going to be super challenging to do stems in standalone because of the CPU, all the videos you see are in controller mode. You can do stems for entire tracks in Cubase since 5 years ago. The quality is going to be super bad in standalone mode, they will need another mpc with more CPU power. Also doing stems on 10-20 seconds of audio is what we see from these videos and it takes too long when in controller mode. This stem announcement is only to sell the new MPC 37 and the plugins. AKAI MPC is software company now not hardware, someone out there just need to make a sampler that has the converter in and out and 8 outs with ADAT, USB and end this drama with the company. We have too many toys for $799 already we need something to work in standalone like we have 30 years ago, Dave Rossum please delivery us E-Mu reincarnation and end this ponzie scheme. There is clearly 135K followers who love your channel like me, but you got to pass the info to Akai to make the change, we been at this since 2017, if nothing is going to change, then we can at least move on stop hoping for REAL SOUND to come back. Thank You!!

[@looseenz3473]

Akai been slipping and I'm actually surprised that they still have customers. As a MPC Live owner I'm very disappointed in the all famous Akai. Mpc touch owners have all been forgotten. I went through 12 updates with the Live, if I spend 1200 for a device I want all the bells and whistles.....

[@COLESEER]

Hopefully It Sounds Better Than the stems from Serato Sample, Fl Studio or Koala Sampler. If it’s the same then it won’t make much of a difference.

[@NimbleX-MC]

I’m not mad. I just want it to be great and I want it to be in standalone one my MPC X!

[@selfscientifik1432]

I hope they release a hardware version,I got an Mpc because I don’t like daws

[@cardbored_]

Akai’s perfect execution of over promise and under deliver. They should have just kept it under their hat until it was ready.

[@tooknotice180]

I've been checking for updates every week for the last 2 months ...😒😬😡

[@Soundninja1994]

I been chilling using fl stems on the mpc 🤷🏿‍♂️😭🤲🏿💎

[@LaurentDiscShowMan]

Jajajajaja..jajajajaaa...Animo con alegrias..cada vez mas aparatos musicales y poco a poco van haciendolos mejor..ya estan a mi nivel y mi configuracion midi avanzada..