MPG Comparison CRF250L vs CRF450L

I've only had my CRF450l for a few weeks but I haven't been able to get a rode ride in yet with the weather. With what is my first and last riding day of the year my dad and I go for a ride to see how much better MPG his CRF250L gets compared to my 450. The results were actually surprising. If you enjoyed this video please subscribe!
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[@Wazarse84]

My dream bike...wow!!!father and son bonding...i wish we can ride together with my father...

[@DadsDomain]

I am very fortunate I get to do this stuff with him. For years I didn’t, busy doing other stuff growing family, kinda broke at times but ya glad for the time I am getting!

[@gldrsesxo2511]

My dad wont do anything with me.:(

[@josseyt]

Very interesting comparison. Thank you for sharing 👍

[@DadsDomain]

No problem. It was fun. Might do it again now that he changed his sprockets

[@binstunting1]

Nice channel bro !!

[@brianraymer5542]

Great video

[@ericc90]

Nice choice and great price on that 450L! I just subscribed, can't wait to see the mods you do to the 450L and your feedback about it.

[@anomie1040]

Eric what did he pay for the 450l that's my dream bike and saving for it now.

[@regianeduarte2000]

Not going to lie that looks like a lot of fun so lucky

[@foxadventurecamping8501]

I'm really love this bike.

[@controlledfreakr]

CamboCross KS hell To the yes ❤️

[@lukestringer2177]

new 450L fantastic !

[@99Jeepy]

Few weeks into my 450rl. Love the bike, ordered a seat and a scag rack already lol seat it hard. Never had it sputter out at a stop but the throttle is jumpy. Will tune soon. Great videos man

[@DadsDomain]

Glad to hear you're enjoying your bike. Once you swap out that seat you'll never go back!

[@Monjar3]

I love the 450L. So much nicer on the long highway stretches to the single track than my buddies 500exc. He always wants to ride it. Honda has the better suspension as well. But I forgot, the bike sucks because 600 mile oil changes or so every comment I read about from people with antiquated DRZ's. I better sell it because changing oil is so freakin hard. I better go out and buy a bike with less than 30 HP and weighs 340 pounds so I dont have to change my oil often. Higher performance everything but can't have all that nonsense cause oil changes. Oh and the pesky 1800 mile valve adjustments. Feelers gauges are hard umm k. Dual sports are all about compromise. I'd rather turn a wrench a little more and maintain a bike that is a freakin blast too ride than have a bike that would run for an eternity but is boring. You only live once. If putting around to see the view and get out in the wilderness is your thing, then low maintenance dual sports are great. If you wish you had a more exciting bike but you read others complaining about service intervals, ignore them. Get the bike that will make you grin the most when twisting the throttle.

[@paska777]

no dual sport is nice on highway

[@lkris369]

250L running fully synthetic 5000km interval

[@nickgalan5264]

Drz has more than 30 hp and weighs 319 wet.... can also get it up with some mods and stay way below a 600 mile oil change. 450L is sick but just sayin your info is false bud

[@Monjar3]

@@nickgalan5264 OK I'm off on the weight but the 450L is pushing 47 horsepower with a vortex and a full exhaust. Plus you have real adjustable suspension. With a new exhaust you lose 10 pounds bringing the wet weight to 279 pounds. I just checked my valves for the second time at 4600 miles and they haven't moved.

[@marcochavane3124]

@@Monjar3 highly doubt the exhaust is 10lbs lighter. The new one has to have some weight that's added back.

[@scottloudon14]

That seems about right, riding my '17 250L spiritedly it hoovers just above 60. If babied high 70's low 80's. I'm stock in regards to engine mods.

[@DadsDomain]

Good to hear. When the weather warms up we are doing it again but switching bikes

[@florme6494]

I’d take the 250l, in fact I have. Cheap thrills, I love working a small engine, proven reliability, fuel showing on dash, and less maintenance.

[@DadsDomain]

You can't go wrong with a 250l. I leave my 450 at my dads house in the country. Tempted to get a 250l to leave at my place.

[@212driller]

The new 300l is definitely the way to go now if you don't already have a 250l

[@doobielawson702]

I have a 2013 crf250l with the FMF megabomb header and Q4 muffler, the EJK and airbox mods. I run it on the mapping that gives me the most power and I get 50 MPGs. I have a 3.1 gallon tank on it. I put 143 miles on a full tank once. When I got home I looked in the tank and there was literally ounces of fuel left, just a little puddle in the bottom of the tank.

[@DadsDomain]

Do you use the stock seat? That’s a long ride on the stocker. But the 250l is far more comfortable than the 450l seat I have

[@doobielawson702]

@@DadsDomain yes I have about 6k miles on it and I still have the stock seat. I've seen some others upgrade the seat and they really like it. I just don't want to spend the money. We had a 250 mile day a couple months ago, unplanned lol, and I survived it just fine.

[@Monjar3]

@@doobielawson702 I cant do it. I hurt for a full day if I ride it more than 50 miles. I'm getting a seat concepts comfort super grip asap.

[@TommyNitro]

I'm actually really impressed with the fuel mileage from that 450.

[@chrisblanchard4938]

My wife rides the 250 which is a perfect bike for her. My concern with the 450 is the maintenance intervals. I was told 650 miles. I believe the 250L is like 1200-1500 miles before maintenance intervals.

[@DadsDomain]

The oil changes are 600. All on road use from what I have heard you can go further. Valve inspection is 1800 miles and full motor rebuild at 20k. For simply pounding out the miles the 250L is still a great bike because of how little you have to touch it. It’s rated for 8k oil changes. That seems like a bit much IMO though

[@borkfork3163]

My crf250l rally got 80-90mpg here at 5,000 elevation for the 6 months I had it. Traded for a xr650l and get 40-50mpg.

[@DadsDomain]

My brother in law has a 650, I would like to do a mpg run with him next spring as well

[@212driller]

I get a consistent 52mpg on My dr650. Not bad for a big thumper with mixed city, dirt road, and highway driving.

[@DadsDomain]

No thats actually really good!

[@212driller]

@@DadsDomain definitely better than I thought she would do!

[@vector99999]

This is Great video. Thanks. I have a question. Is it possible to replace crf250l's headlight & fairing with crf450l's?

[@DadsDomain]

I honestly don’t know. My dad asked me a similar question but I showed him you can get an led headlight bulb instead so he might go that way

[@vector99999]

@@DadsDomain ok thanks have a great day!

[@Justinz6]

250l is half the price, less hp and more weight. However that is not always bad. I have around 10k miles on my 250l. Longest ride was 1000 miles each way 2k miles total. I ride trails and in town. Over all I still see this bike as the best dual sport. Its plenty on the trails where 250fs or 450s are over powered. Its fuel efficiency in town and on trails is unbelievable. Hwy is a different ride and fuel suffers, I had to stop for gas every 45ish mins on hwy at 75-80mph full throttled. So not 70 mpg on hwy. Over all a bike capable of everything for around 5k? 250l is the best bang for buck. Also long service intervals 8k mile oil change etc. Just ride and smile on the 250l. Dont reccomend going that long on oil but honda approved it, motor is tank proof.

[@DadsDomain]

I completely agree, it is the best bang for the buck out there. It technically will do just about anything and go anywhere. If I wanted a bike that would pile up the miles it would be on my short list

[@advguy84]

That's crazy, ur dad must be ripping that 250l, I never got under 68 mpg's even flat ripping on it. On the road, regular driving, 72ish mpg.

[@DadsDomain]

We are going to redo the test in the spring but I am going to drive it. It’s 40 here now and I just don’t feel like a long ride in that weather!

[@advguy84]

@@DadsDomain awesome, yeah here outside kcmo, it's cold 30ish degrees, I'm going stir crazy already. I'd love to take a 450l for a rip one day. Awesome bikes you have there. Seems like an awesome dad as well. My dad and I use to ride like that all the time, he is getting older now and dont ride much. Enjoy the bikes, the weather and that Dad of yours while you can.

[@DadsDomain]

My dad used to have a 650L and he wasn’t comfortable on it. The 250l is lower and he feels so much better on it. Hoping it helps keep him going longer. Glad to hear though you have some good memories with your dad as well

[@larosemarielaila8799]

@@DadsDomain hi the plastic and seat of the crf 450l can be adapted on the crf 250l?

[@Kwikrnu]

I get about 60 mpg on my 250l. That combined mileage, freeway @70-85mph and forest service roads.

[@leeknievel748]

Bro, what year is your 250L here?

[@controlledfreakr]

Cool video. They are good on fuel with the stock computer. The vortex and pipe will change all that 💯😂😂👌🏾❤️

[@DadsDomain]

...and I can’t wait!

[@controlledfreakr]

You’ll love the power. 👌🏾❤️ I’m looking at the enduro tank because damn she can get thirsty when you hold it flat 💯

[@jerrybernier6046]

Do a speed test on the 450

[@thegreatone582]

I have 2005 crf450x I get 53mpg if I go easy!! Nice bike great video

[@DadsDomain]

I had the same bike once upon a time and then traded it for a 06 450R. I miss both honestly. But I am hoping that know my L is modded I have a street legal X.

[@thegreatone582]

@@DadsDomain I really like the L. Maybe someday I'll make the change. Lol. I have only had mine for a season but have put little over 5000 miles. I will def be watching your videos and seeming how you like it long term.

[@deadahead8701]

I have a 19’ 250L and a 19’ 450L they both have their strong points. The 250 is much more comfortable on the street. The 450 is a monster after I put the full fmf and EFI Tuner on it. The 250 came with a nicer gage cluster also.

[@myass5964]

Why 2 L's and no R's

[@SSorgears]

Wow - my 250L Rally routinely gets over 70 mpg. I don't thrash on it, but also not afraid of the throttle. Lowest MPG I have seen on the bike was 63 mpg, highest was 81 mpg. (Lots of 35-45 mph road riding on that tank...) Might want to check that 250L and see if there is a blockage in the intake tract or something...? I think Honda kinda messed up a bit with the 450L - they should have made the bike with about 40 hp and given it service intervals like the 250L. 600 mile oil change? Valve check/adj every 3 oil changes? Too much hassle if you actually want to use the bike for a trip - even a weekend would need to change the oil...

[@DadsDomain]

Ya I am starting to wonder if something is up with his. In regards to the 450l aside from the emissions on it it’s almost like a 450xl in that it’s based off the 450x. I think Honda should make a 500cc dual sport as a true big bore 250l

[@granvillewallace4271]

Love the CRF250l just got a brand new one upgraded the sprockets to 13/ 45 I believe put a EJK in it along with my fmf exhaust.

[@DadsDomain]

How is the gearing at highway speeds?

[@granvillewallace4271]

@@DadsDomain the gears are long good with all the extra power but the speedometer freaks out after the upgrades tho.

[@granvillewallace4271]

@@DadsDomain so yes the hearing on the highway is good at least for where I am in the Bahamas

[@granvillewallace4271]

@@DadsDomain its honestly just a perfect bike for me. Oh and it's real torquey 😂 I'm now saving for a Suzuki RMZ450 my dream dirt bike.

[@DadsDomain]

My dad is looking at changing his gearing and I did show him there is a tool that adjusts the speedometer but he isn’t sure he wants to worry about it and instead just learn how far off it is

[@moy3436]

Share link on the rear rack please

[@scg262]

And cool Bikes though

[@MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION]

Pretty good! So in stock form the 450l is close to the 250l in terms of fuel consumption......When are you planning on getting the vortex and full exhaust swap? When I get the 450l I’m planning on doing the same, vortex/Yoshimura swap although probably not right away. Im not considered about fuel consumption per say. I just want to know how much of a beast the bike turns into! Lol. I’ve heard that it totally transforms the bike and makes it feel like a “real” 450. Thanks for the videos and keep us posted.

[@DadsDomain]

I am probably buying the parts on Black Friday if there are deals but I will wait for spring time to install them. I want to do some really good comparisons compared to stock and if I throw them on in the winter I won’t be able to tell. Toys like this make me feel like a kid because I don’t know if I have the patience!

[@MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION]

Dads Domain Patience is overrated! When I want it, I want it now! Lol..... The vortex and full exhaust is definitely a pricey upgrade so I will probably have to wait for a bit after I purchase the bike. My list of major additions for the bike will be: Aftermarket seat, hand guards, vortex ecu, full exhaust and a set of sumo rims/tires.

[@DadsDomain]

Well the bike was supposed to be for my 40th, I just turned 39 so I say I need patience but I am not doing well so far

[@MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION]

Dads Domain Haha! Your birthday is whenever you want it to be!

[@MrWesleymoon]

The 250l is the better bike because it needs service at 8000 miles and the 450 needs it around 500 miles. The 250l will last you unlike the 450 that will not

[@nicholasclaircin6780]

Love the 250l she is a bad ass

[@DadsDomain]

I just sent my dad a screenshot of your comment and now I get to hear about it 😉

[@aaronwilcox5673]

I want a Honda 650L really badly I'm 6' but a little over 300 lbs. Had a tiny Honda crf230 and it was great on trails but I want a dual sport and my xr600 isn't it either. If I get a 650 I'll probably need to upgrade the suspension first thing.

[@DadsDomain]

They make a brace for the forks to keep the tubes from flexing. That’s a good add on to look at as well. I still say the torque of second gear on a 650l is one of the funnest shifts I ever did on a bike

[@Zacch0]

Hey man how tall are you? Looking into a 450l just trying to gauge the size.

[@DadsDomain]

I am 6’3” I just installed taller bars and I like the feel now a lot

[@JoshuaDomoslai]

Such hard decisions. I only ride on early Sunday mornings and do about 100 -/+ miles in 1 day.. It’s a 20 miles street to the local trail, then up a beat up mountain fire road thays another 20 miles or so, enjoy the views and explore around and go back home. I want either a 300L or a street legal 450L (rl, X, xl whatever they call them) Maintenance is no big deal. But my mind says 300L for pure MPG and reliability and with the price savings I could do the suspension mods available and other accessories to make it tricked out. But on the other hand I’ve always ridden full size mx bikes, and the 450 probably only would need a pipe, and a larger gas tank to be more then enough. I guess it would depend on how small the 300L is in person. I’ve yet to see one

[@DadsDomain]

If you want to feel like you're riding an MX bike on the road then its the 450 with an exhaust and ECU mod. It completely reminds me of my 06 450R. There are a lot of differences but they feel like brothers. The 250/300 feel nothing like MX in my opinion and with your background you'll need stiffer springs. But if you're never in a hurry they'll run forever and do it on the cheap

[@andyblack5687]

That's good mileage on the 450. My DR650 only gets 48-52 mpg and it's putting out less peak hp (probably). Of course it's carbeurated and only has a five speed trans.

[@DadsDomain]

I am really glad Honda put a sixth gear in it. With that and the heavier crank it’s my understanding the motor itself is 5 lbs heavier than the 450R but it’s worth it

[@andyblack5687]

@@DadsDomain Sweet. I'll probably get a used one , one day. A new one is a little pricey but totally worth the price if you can afford it.

[@chrisredfield3240]

Can you borrow a 125. And do the same 125cc vs crf250l on the same ride.

[@zazugee]

i get same mileage on my chinese 200cc dualsport i believe mileage is related to the aerodynamic and acceleration braking and not much related to the engine the engine efficiency and carburator play a marginal role, the higher seat of dualsport and adv bikes compared to road and sport bike at same speeds makes their mileage worse

[@fredblogsmac.5697]

i put a 3 tooth larger sproket on the front . big diffrence in mpg and less buzz on the road.

[@DadsDomain]

Which one do you have?

[@fredblogsmac.5697]

@@DadsDomain i had a crf 250.l.

[@rummanac]

Hmm seems full family fond of dirt bikes. Great

[@DadsDomain]

A little over a year ago we had zero! I had been without for awhile so it was good to get back into it!

[@madinpunam4063]

my dream bike is crf250l but it is so expensive in nepal its price is 1125000.before 3...4 yrs it was 850000 its price is above the sky high so i bought xr 190l .it cost around 594900

[@downey318]

The was I think of it a smaller motor will work harder doing what a bigger motor dose with ease so it uses less fuel

[@StellsBellz]

How does this 250L handle highway speeds? Like an average speed of 65? For over a half hour to 45 mins. Would it stress the motor?

[@DadsDomain]

I can’t remember the rpm, it’s up there some but it would do it all day every day and not complain. Freeway riding at 75 I wouldn’t want to do. You’d be holding it almost wide open

[@leroy3784]

I dont know too much. But if you break tires, your odometer will show more miles then travelled. Just a thought.

[@DadsDomain]

Thats a great point but his tires are relatively new. We put the 12'oclock labs speedo corrector on it after changing gearing and now that its more accurate we'll need to test again. I filmed us installing it just been busy and haven't been able to post it yet

[@martinf9626]

Why in 2020 they don't instal a real fuel gauge ? Can you install one from after market . does that exist ?

[@DadsDomain]

Not that I am aware of. I normally leave my 450l on the consumption meeter vs the trip or mpg one

[@RcBasher5000]

Me and my buddy had the same issue where one odometer said one went more miles than the other while we were off-road and we determined that the reason his said more miles is how much he was spinning because his tire was almost bald

[@foggymcfly3636]

RcBasher5000 or wheelies I think the speedometer/odometer works off the front tire

[@HamRadio200]

@@foggymcfly3636 Neither is correct. The speedo on the 250l is run off the counter sprocket. Also the speedo on the 250l is inherently off. You need a speedodrd module to correct this. Lol on the crf250l spinning the tire. It barely has enough power to spin the tire on gravel... lol

[@foggymcfly3636]

Radio Bro oh ok. But the speedometer works off the front tire of the 450L. Right?

[@HamRadio200]

Foggy McFly I’m not sure on the 450l. It appears that there is a wire coming off the front hub of the 450l. It could be a wheel speed sensor wire b

[@popalot711rb]

Are they both stock?? What's the top speed on them? What's the price for both.

[@DadsDomain]

Yes they are both stock right now. I believe the 450 is 90mph as the computer stops you. The 250 is around 80. We paid 4199 and 7999 before all the other fees. Retail is 5199 on the 250 and 10,399 on the 450. It pays to shop!

[@babybossaeron530]

My drreambike both of them but im just only 5'5 feet , so sad.

[@drzrider3440]

I can see a fuel mileage comparison, but the title is misleading. Cause you can't really compare the two bikes. Casue you can take the 250 on a long ride, you cant take the 450 on one unless you plan on in route oil changes. Price wise, id rather have a ktm if its going to have short oil change intervals.

[@theninja001]

With all the hard accelerating you did on the 450, vs your dad just riding easy, the 450 might actually get better mpg!

[@DadsDomain]

I thought about that after too....I just might have to try it with him again

[@thanasis_biz566]

Crf 450 running with hours as Motocross version or you can do thousands of miles with only oil change every 3000 miles and valves settings every thousands of miles?

[@DadsDomain]

I think it really depends on how it’s ridden. Cruising around low throttle it could go a long ways. High rpm. Full throttle. More fuel works its way into the oil….etc for mostly road use the max I would go is 1000 personally

[@StrykerV8]

Wow really??? I swear I can't get more than 45-50 miles until switching to reserve on my '14 450X which is around 30mpg. That's a huge difference.

[@DadsDomain]

Fuel Injection alone adds a lot of efficiency. On top of that Honda has this bike really lean and the fuel shuts off on deceleration

[@reneerasmussen5837]

Uncle Ryan it’s Evan I just watched it 3 hrs after you made it was so cool but why was there a difference in mileage on the 450l than the 250l it’s weird, but interesting vid. nice job.

[@DadsDomain]

Different bikes get different mpg. Motor size, how the motor is built, the weight of the bike all have an effect

[@Monjar3]

@@DadsDomain And you twisting that throttle a little bit more than your dad didnt help.

[@jparrott04]

I think she means a difference in the trip distance traveled measurement. Not MPG. ^^

[@chrisredfield3240]

I would say the pace was to fast for the 250 too get it's best efficiency. People get as much as 90mpg from a cb500x. For most bikes going half the top speed is usually very efficient.

[@DadsDomain]

We’re going to do the test again next spring but swap bikes and see how much changing the riders does.

[@Isaiaha400]

What type of gas do you use for the 250l?

[@DadsDomain]

He always used pump premium

[@bhenderson7651]

Why are so many people afraid to change the oil? Go to 1000 miles after break in and enjoy riding!

[@DadsDomain]

I don’t ride enough for it to be a concern. It’s not expensive or hard. Sometimes I wonder if it’s just the concept. But if it was a daily commuter maybe that would do it

[@usbsol]

So...in kilometers per liter? 😇 My 2018 crf 250 l does about 30km per liter 🤸 And thats with ejk kit and fmd q4 🥰

[@solstar4778]

What is the top end difference between the. 2 the 250 and the 450 ?

[@DadsDomain]

The easiest way to put it is the 250 is all top and the 450 is all bottom. I short shift the 450 a lot. When I ride my dads 250 I like to let it rev out more.

[@johntheaccountant5594]

After watching this video and doing some research, I think the CRF250L looks neater and one cannot justify the price difference and then when you read about the maintenance required on the 450 compared to the 250 you cannot justify buying the 450 unless you have money to burn.

[@DadsDomain]

I plan on addressing the price issue in a later video, both comparing what we actually paid and MSRP

[@NeededGIJOE]

How do you fuel this damn thing at a gas station lol, I pulled back the pumps foreskin, and still didn’t work

[@scg262]

Also yeah im a question asker but do they still use the Polaris RZR 170? The kids?

[@DadsDomain]

My dad sold it to a guy who had a 1000xp rzr and wanted one for their kids to follow him

[@scg262]

Oh ok

[@scg262]

And thanks for responding to most of my comments and replies ;)

[@DadsDomain]

No problem!

[@scg262]

And I liked when I can And Scrubscribed

[@randersson3672]

The 250L is very climate sensitiv, at least mine is...below 10 degrees celsius, it gulps gas. As much as my 690, really weird. In the summer with 20 degrees it's about 70mpg, winter 56 mpg roughly, annoying.

[@DadsDomain]

Wow that’s a big drop, I know mpg goes down but that’s a big drop!

[@randersson3672]

Yes, it's really weird, on top of that...the bike runs good, might think it would bog but no.. Have you seen the same with your dads CRF ?

[@hiagooliveira587]

Eai Honda, cadê essas motos no Brasil 🙄

[@sushibar1]

How come crf450l heavier than crf250l This is Interesting

[@3rdofthree]

What state is this in?

[@DadsDomain]

This was in eastern WA north of Spokane

[@bultacowally]

One costs 5 grand the other costs 10 grand...can't be much of a comparison. Ain't NFW the 450 is worth twice what the 250 is. I doubt they sell real well just for that reason.

[@DadsDomain]

I wouldn’t have paid sticker for it but I got it for 2400 off

[@madinpunam4063]

in xr 190l need to upgrade rear drum brake to disc brake n engine kill switch cuz.in highway crusing at 80.90 mph it does not give u the confidence in braking

[@juniorrodechero8903]

Boa noite, Honda é, 10.

[@2wheelAdv]

If I end up getting the 450 I’m going to part out my 250. It’s full of extras. Message me if you are interested in a list.

[@DadsDomain]

Let me know, depending on the timing he might be interested

[@2wheelAdv]

@@DadsDomain I reached out to you on Instagram, easier to message. Here is a link to all the options I have and could take off most of them: 2wheeladv.com/2016-honda-crf250l-bike-build-for-less/

[@brentwallace1058]

@@2wheelAdv I'm interested in the seat concepts seat if you're selling it.

[@2wheelAdv]

Brent Wallace I will be parting the whole bike out but not ready. Need to get the new bike in first. I will keep you posted

[@rick-hm3ji]

@@DadsDomain recognize that there are some differences between the 2016 and 2017 and subsequent models. One example is the header pipe: larger diameter on 2017 and subsequent models. You should verify compatibility with dad's bike before purchasing. I have the same rack, skid plate, and radiator guard as 2wheelAdv so the parts are good (i would quibble on the amount of discount for used, but that's just me)

[@jaytravel-12]

Are they reliable bikes.

[@DadsDomain]

The 250l is incredibly reliable. the 450l is too new to "officially" say but reports of some riders with 10k miles already are that it has been reliable.

[@suraphongsuwannaphong4806]

CRF 450 very beautifui. Unfortunately. Thailand is not for Sale.

[@DadsDomain]

That’s too bad, what about the 250L?

[@suraphongsuwannaphong4806]

@@DadsDomain Yes,l still use the CRF 250l but prefer the 450. Made a lot of clips, waiting to be followed

[@rudihenry5298]

450 is really e xpensive, better upgrade 250 crf

[@rudihenry5298]

Made in Thailand, many CRF250 clubs here

[@MOTOmunchies_420cc]

450L gang

[@veiledallegory]

There isn't much of a weight difference between the two. Physics man!

[@johntheaccountant5594]

The two motorbikes look the same to me being ignorant. Infact the 250 looks more useable being narrower.

[@DadsDomain]

For me the 450 turns faster and is lighter so for me at my size I feel the 450 is more useable. But the 250 is lower to the ground and much easier to manage the power so it just depends on the rider

[@guidok3762]

In Europe the both have 25 Hp !!!

[@DadsDomain]

I don’t even have words for them making a 450 25hp over there....

[@ramiretz]

exactly..... and the 450L is overpriced as hell also...

[@TheMachoVato]

you keep saying .6 miles to the gallon... that would kill me and kill me again

[@DadsDomain]

Ya I talk too fast sometimes

[@clintemmanueltraveros9334]

Nah i challenge that 2 monster against my cute crf 150l on mpg , sprockets are 13 51 , enough to climb most hills , for a rider only 135Lbs

[@xenomorph7299]

take music out i like engine more

[@ramiretz]

wow why is your 250L so thirsty ???? my 2017 250L is about 70-72 mpgs average

[@DadsDomain]

It’s a good question. He always complained it wasn’t as good as he thought it would be which is one reason why we wanted to find out. He only has around 650 miles so maybe it will do better with time

[@ramiretz]

@@DadsDomain aaaaaaaaah that explains alot ! you need some more miles to free the engine up ;) mine started to be good and strong after 1400-1500 miles, i remember when it was new it feeld not good and was also very thirsty ;)

[@nelsdude]

@@DadsDomain I have a 2019 250L. From 1st tank and stock the worst I've gotten is 77mpg trail riding...usually about 82mpg.

[@petersajkic6749]

Thirsty...at 61 mpg...lol. Try riding a ktm 1190 adventure .average 38 mpg

[@jackthebass2]

You guys need senas

[@DadsDomain]

Definitely it’s on my wish list

[@jackthebass2]

Just get a dual pack of 20s. The best bang for your buck in my opinion

[@realazliving]

That’s an alright video but not how to figure mpg accurately. The distance is too short because the precision in filling isn’t there. It’s nice you showed it on your bike but you clearly don’t fill it as much as at the beginning. Then the math is a bit wrong. And you cropped his miles. If he takes turns wide and you dive inside you go different distances. It’s not one vehicle they don’t travel the same. You didn’t show his gas but even a little squirt extra will matter after only 30 some miles. Maybe try keeping track over multiple tanks to get an accurate number. Either way that is for posting it. Have fun out there.

[@DadsDomain]

I don't disagree with what you're saying but I am comfortable with the numbers as I've done them again off camera and the results are consistent. We posted another video comparing MPG after changing both bikes as well and while not scientific I'm comfortable stating we're +/- 5%

[@jaytravel-12]

?? The CRF250L

[@DadsDomain]

They are both very reliable but the 250l requires far less maintenance. The 450L hasn’t been out long but problems are far and few between from what I have read

[@jaytravel-12]

Ok cool where can I buy it

[@jaytravel-12]

@@DadsDomain where can I buy.

[@DadsDomain]

Most Honda dealers have them in stock and or can get them

[@jaytravel-12]

@@DadsDomain ok cool thanks bro 💯💯💯🎗️🎗️

[@ToddWainwright]

250 L