MPG? Towing Experience? 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 w/5th Wheel Camper

[@chucknSC]

The fuel mileage on my 3500hd came up substantially after break in which was probably around 2k miles. I was happy to find a High Country without any sunroof ( I want a roof rack without sunroof issues).

[@joshuahorstmann7255]

That's good to hear I'm at 1500 miles on my 2024 duramax and I pulled a 5000 pound camper and only got 9 mpg. How much did your mpg Change

[@chucknSC]

@@joshuahorstmann7255 2 mpg ( about 19-20 percent). I get about 9-11 pulling a 11000# fifth wheel.

[@michaeljordan4571]

Maybe GM doesn't put a panoramic sunroof because they don't want to deal with the leaking roofs.

[@jasonlarsen3515]

It took gm 2 generations of trucks to place the steering wheel centered to the drivers seat add rear HVAC vents. They still don’t have a flat rear floor.

[@davidkrahn5488]

Have replaced a few panoramic glass roofs from rock strikes on the highway. For a truck I would prefer no sunroof if that's a option.

[@Bradimus1]

Heavy too

[@davidcorriea8767]

One thing I noticed when you were hooking up was practically no clearance between the trailer and the pickup bed. If you go over a little uneven ground and you will end up with a damaged pickup and trailer. They keep making these pickups taller. The only reason In my opinion is people like the look of a big truck. Your thoughts?

[@michaeljordan4571]

@@kmonto1971 ya why ford and ram bothered with panoramic sunroofs while they are dealing with Hemi ticks, and cam and lifter failures is beyond me.

[@4-LOW]

I really like that color. I like that truck a lot overall actually.

[@vancekeith5642]

I do appreciate the video and you did a great job, thanks

[@williamconrad1087]

Tim, one could finance a 250k house at 7% for 30 years and the payment is 1663.25 or the truck for 5years and payment is 1643.50

[@Dusdaddy]

And pay about $350,000 in interest on the house vs. $15,600 in interest on the truck. I'll take the truck thank you....

[@kirkdunn1379]

Can't compare the 2......if your buying this truck money isn't the issue anyway or it's a write off.....

[@kirkdunn1379]

@@Dusdaddy right, ...payments don't mean shit.....total cost does... 7% over 30 years is far worse..

I've got an LTZ with the tech pack and level2 .....what really does High country do more other than color match and stitches??

Not enough bed clearance

[@Broncort1]

I’m amazed that camper isn’t a trị-axle considering the length and weight!

[@charlesc5983]

You can’t beat the seats in the old gmt800s

[@esh87]

I recently traded in my 2020 3500HD high country dually for a 2024 3500HD high country dually and im glad I did. There are a few things i like more on the 2024 more than the 2020, for instance the rims and how they are a inch bigger, front end and interior. I also haul a 40ft 5th wheel weighing in at 14,000lbs

[@jacobwilliams4724]

I think that GM should do what Ram did with the towing cameras being in the rear view mirror. Being able to just look up like you do naturally and see the camera behind the RV is an amazing idea.

[@WMoore-un3vg]

I have a camera in the third brake light on my 2022 Silverado 3500HD that shows my 5th wheel hitch & pin box as I hook up, shows on the touch screen, works fantastic !

[@davecamilleri9411]

I waited patiently for GM to come out with numbers on the 2024 Duramax and I have to say I was disappointed that they didn't ramp up the power a little more to keep pace with Ford. I ended up buying a 2023 GMC Denali Dually and quickly added a Banks Derringer and Banks Ram air intake and now I can say I am happy with the power. I tow a 15k fifth wheel and my last truck was a 2017 Silverado 3500 SRW and while I really liked the truck, by the time I added an aux fuel tank, ranch hand bumper with 18k winch and a few other goodies, I was always over weight towing my trailer. Now I have a cushion on weight and payload capacity. The dually doesn't get as good of fuel economy as the SRW. One question about the 2024, did you notice where the aux camera plug ins are located? are they still in the bumper plug above the trailer plug? This is a dumb design on GM's part. I bought the rear trailer camera for my fifth wheel and the wiring has to go over the tailgate to plug into the bumper plug in. The wire flexes a lot and I am on my 4 end replacement because the wire keeps breaking . Some people have switched this plug in with the one in the bed of the truck that also has a 4 pin in addition to the 7 pin, again what was GM thinking, the 4 pin is usually for boat trailers or small trailers.Anyway relocating the plugs requires an expensive extension harness for the camera leads, but the plastic housing is a direct replacement. I am in Wyoming too, Worland. Have you ever thought about doing a Wyoming style mountain pass test? Going from Buffalo off of I 25 to the top of Powder River Pass and back? This is a tough pull and really tests a trucks ability towing a trailer!

[@JoseRodriguez-tx1pt]

that truck is soo nice

[@mfairlie9912]

I'd say, that you could easily, go down a set of bolt holes, on the trailer pin box or up a set of bolt holes on the truck fifth wheel hitch, to improve the clearance between the pickup bedrails and the trailer. Also, either one, of the two aforementioned adjustments, should make the Cameo fifth wheel ride level, seems low in the nose, when hooked up to the Chevy.

[@williampropp1290]

Wonder if they have an up grade to the software so that the 2023 models can have the cameras on all of the time?

[@garysarratt1]

I’ve been wondering about the advantages and limitations of ota updates as well. I wonder if an ota update can’t do certain things, how about hardware refitting, say put a new, improved ECM to make a 22 comparable with a 24 or such like.

[@jimlidie128]

9 miles to the gallon is said for a diesel I have a 23 ford 7.3 gas I get 9 miles to the gallon pulling 14000 and for 60.000 dollars

[@CS-rb9jk]

Have you noticed dead pedal in the 24 Duramax? I just did a test drive on a 24 LTZ. From a dead stop if you hit the throttle quick at least 1/4 or 1/3 down, it had dead pedal for almost 3 seconds. I mean i hardly responded then hit real hard. Also driving around the diesel just didn't seem responsive till it spooled up. I found it rather annoying. Seemed like a lot of turbo lag. What's your experience? Did the truck learn and improve?

[@Jerzeyguy]

If there wasn’t a slight delay you would spin the tires. I have pedal commander from banks , and I keep it on 1 in city mode. And when it rains I shut it off because of tire spin.

[@CS-rb9jk]

@@Jerzeyguy Did it eliminate the delay?

[@Jerzeyguy]

@@CS-rb9jk yes.

[@jakenichols8543]

So I just bought a ‘24 2500 with duramax. I thought it was awful at first like no pep. Bought the truck last Friday & left the next morning from Oklahoma to Colorado pulling camper. The truck was totally diff after putting 1000 miles on it. Deff breaking in and improving. BUT I will say after having 5 6.7 fords… this duramax does not pull anywhere near as good. Hoping that changes with more miles. Also hoping fuel mileage towing improves. Only seeing about 8 if there’s any kind of wind

[@joshuahorstmann7255]

​@jakenichols8543 I'm curious what is your current mpg now that you have some more Miles on it

[@bradenconway9066]

Those max tow ratings are just suggestions, i have and 09 duramax 2500hd and I pull 25000lbs regularly. No problems at all, it is deleted and has a good tune that helps me down hills with no exhaust brake. I do leave my tune on tow/haul and that’s only 45hp. More hp helps but you really don’t need it, the 09 will yank whatever you want to

[@demuntresmith6666]

Good video truck pull camper good.Cannot wait for your 2024 ford f350 test.

[@johnandrobinmccoy8305]

I have a 23 high country 3500 srw. That trailer is DRW territory. Add normal stuff for a trip, you'd be over pin weight for sure. You might be over pin weight as you sit possibly.

[@roadrunner197069]

Looks like the camper will hit the bed if yoy get any side tipping at all? Turn on a hill and crunch.

[@bigmountainlittlehunter]

I noticed that too. Common issue with 5ers. I switched mine to a goose box. Not for this reason but it has sufficient clearance. About 5” if I remember correctly.

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Nice setup, yeah I agree you should have raised that hitch higher, I have the 2023 Duramax 3500 High Country LB, and my payload is 3821 lbs it just seems like your payload should have been higher. I have a 2023 Jayco North Point 310RLTS which is only 36' long and when I first brought it home my rear sagged about 3 3/4" so I just added some Timbrens in the rear so now it only sagged about 2 1/2" the weight of my North Point is about your weight but I just bought it home and I haven't had time to go to the scale.

[@triedproven9908]

Nice setup. Im looking to pickup something simillar but probably less expensive trailer wise. Any complaints?

[@Bferr89]

Following this cause I want a 355mbqs

[@mathewphillips4185]

All right. Maybe you can help me. I live in Massachusetts. I want to order a new 2024 GMC Silverado 1500 but when I look on the website for GMC to build all I get is the option for the 2023. How do I get a 1500 2024 ordered?

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

You have to wait. Order books aren't open for a 2024 yet.

[@mathewphillips4185]

@@Pickuptrucktalk any specific time? My wife and I wanted to get it for October for my birthday but it sounds like I'm going to be waiting a lot longer

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

@@mathewphillips4185 that timing is tight. Stop by your dealer and have them place an order asap. That will get you on the list.

[@vancekeith5642]

The clearance between 5th wheel trailer (not a “camper”) is so tight you could NEVER take that on an uneven trail and would probably touch in a driveway….not sure if thats just the camera a angle. By the way a “camper” mounts in the bed of your truck.

[@westriveroutdoors]

I thought the exact same thing it looked like he had 1 inch of clearance between the tailgate

[@scz718645]

Bose has been on LTZ for quite some time

[@cigarmaestro8187]

Short or Long Bed for a 5th Wheel. I’m new to trucks.

[@Bferr89]

long bed is better dually is best

[@charlesc5983]

So can we have 2022 trucks reprogrammed to stay on

[@chrisstymus1980]

No bed clearance!

[@BearPapa49]

Just received my pick up truck suv hat and shirt ! Thanks Tim . Question the cameras stay on when you drive you said . Does the camera view stay on for the front end as well ? I’m in the market for a new 2500 and that would help me with parking in certain spots to let me know if I’m close enough to the curb .

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

Nice! I wondered who bought a shirt. Yup, the front camera stays on so you can park easier.

[@Cavemol5823]

Doing it quite easily 😊

[@Hpdsgt91]

Tim have they started e-coating the frames on the 24s?

[@27dmarshall]

Nope. =( I'm coming from a Ford Super Duty. Waxed frame is the only thing I've found so far that feels like a downgrade. Very happy overall. But the messy waxed frame makes maintenance much less pleasant.

[@27dmarshall]

2024 GMC 2500HD

[@mikewilliams2486]

I want those taillights for my 1500…

[@mfstr]

get the DRW!

[@kirkdunn1379]

83k is reasonable for LTZ with diesel....73k without 1 trim below top in any other brand is alot more guaranteed Paid 65k + TTL for 23 gas HC that had 73k sticker......now a loaded LT is 63k so trucks aren't getting cheaper Remember when HC was " too expensive" with 63k .MSRP a few years ago.....should have bought one then😂 They are only going up

[@mikesimmons9930]

The seats in my 2018 GMC Sierra suck compared to my 06 Sierra. 😅

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

I swear something changed with GM and their seats are terrible now.

[@mikesimmons9930]

@@Pickuptrucktalk totally agree. They feel stiffer and have a shorter seat cushion that causes my legs to fatigue.

[@fongvang935]

Yeah the seats in the chevy is the least comfortable among the big three. The back is not completely flat. Manual adjusting steering wheels. Otherwise it's a great truck. You dont seem too impressed haha. $83k is actually not too bad compared to a RAM and Ford equivalent, even the gmc. A "low optioned" lariat f250/350 with a 6.7 powerstroke is 85k+ already. You put in lariat ultimate package and HO powerstroke and its 90k+. That HO powerstroke is fast though!

The seats are firm ..but great on long trips for support

[@sheputthelimeinthecoconut629]

Some questionable things I noticed right away after buying my high country… 1) no 12v outlet. Anywhere. 2) no digital (numerical) coolant temp gauge 3) no adjustable pedals…. 4) rear seats in no way fold flat 5) seats seem really firm for a high end truck I love the truck otherwise. But it seems like the engineers are not truck users…

[@dmcharley64]

Ford seats are a full inch wider and longer... talking seat cushion, not back

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

It is mind boggling that diesel is cheaper than regular gas now in the US. It hasn't been like that since Obama began the Fundamental Transformation of America. To answer your question about towing, I have a 2011 Dodge Ram 3500 dually and I bought that because I tow over 15,000 lbs. Once you start to get close to 20,000 lbs dually's are all but a must have especially when the wind starts to pick up. I've driven single axle 3500's before, and those back tires move enough you just burn through tires like crazy and at times it is just not safe.

[@stevewatt5066]

Must be only where you are. I haven't seen diesel cheaper than gas in many years.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@stevewatt5066W seems to have cheaper diesel than regular unleaded right now. Seems to have shifted between being more than premium to this over the past month or two. Just filled up tonight. $4.19 for diesel and 4.49 for regular at the local Costco. I filled 4.79 for premium :(

[@stevewatt5066]

@ALMX5DP I just filled for 3.17 and diesel is 3.65 here

[@brockloy2210]

Yeah, diesel is still more expensive here than gas, I know the diesel guys want this back in the arsenal for another reason on why diesel is superior.

[@legrandechene3734]

That's a BIG trailer

[@ChrisMonopoli]

this crazy inflation all started when nobody wanted to work after COVID and employers had to start offering $15 an hour to work at McDonald's and even higher to work other places because these employers aren't going to absorb the extra cost so you know who does.... if people would've got off their ass and worked when it was time to go back to work it may have not been as bad but the government paying people not to work didn't help so now we have $85K trucks and $5 milk etc.

[@brockloy2210]

Honestly i'd rather have seen the gas truck pulling this weight, we all know the diesel can do this not impressed, put at least 20,000lb for diesel. 14,000lb for gas I'm impressed.

[@triedproven9908]

So we can listen to it detonate as it struggles to produce the necessary torque.

[@brockloy2210]

@triedproven9908 yes that's exactly why because we all know diesels never and I mean never ever have any issues and they save you money in the long run, and get better gas mileage, are so quiet, are great sitting the winter, do a cool thing with the regeneration, never have any transmission or turbo issues, maintenance also a big advantage, Def is a cool convenience the diesel offers, price of the diesel is also fantastic because the diesels of today last just as long or longer as the diesels of 20 plus years ago, oh the resale value is fantastic as well you will get 10,000 dollars more 5 years from now compared to the gas, (did I pay 10,000 dollars more for this upfront?) Look I get it you are a diesel fan boy and diesels can do no wrong in your book and honestly I've driven diesels and love the feeling when driving one a man's man truck. All I'm saying is I know the diesel is going outperform the gas truck but at a higher cost, less reliability, and lifespan weaker with all this emissions crap. The gas truck IMO has narrowed the gap the last few years but before your head explodes yes diesel is still king. I personally will only be towing about a month in total throughout the year with weights not exceeding 13,000 lb. A diesel would be cool to have but I wouldn't work it the way diesels like to be worked so the gas makes more sense for me. In saying that thanks for letting me know that the gas engine gets very loud and quiet possibly might detonate if one should tow any weight with it, I'll keep that in mind when making my decision.

[@ashleymalone5396]

⏫️⏫️⏫️ This.

[@ashleymalone5396]

If you know you're going to be towing heavy and up grade, the simple solution is run premium fuel.

[@pablomartinez4482]

Do you need a CDL with that 15,000 pound camper?

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

No.

[@kirkdunn1379]

Love GM trucks but seats are shit....I.have High Country now and had LT last year....they are the same aside from cloth vs leather .... Everything else is great... Always gonna be something I run seat cushion and blocks under the front where it bolts to the body to tilt seat back more... Had 21 Ram and seats were better but didn't like rest of the truck Buddy has 22 Ford (will never buy) and his seats are by the far the best....they nailed it with seat comfort... There just isn't any foam in GM seats....bolstering and more foam....

[@joseramos7476]

Great truck panoramic roof is overrated

[@tuffr2]

SRW trucks towing a big 5th wheel is not the way to go.

[@triedproven9908]

Not full time, but fine for a trip or 2 a year.

[@bobbrinkerhoff3592]

Having to deal with DRW in snow and ice even with 4WD sucks .

[@tuffr2]

@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 I agree

[@crappieslinger]

70 mph is way too fast to be pulling that much weight. It isn't that the big bad diesel cant do it, its the fact that you cant get it stopped in a reasonable distance. Taking it up to 80 is just ignorant and irresponsible. Ever wonder why they limit semi's to 65 or 70 mph? It isn't that they can't pull it that fast, it is the fact they can't get it stopped in an emergency situation. It is simple science!

[@michaelmuller4719]

There is no clearance between camper and truck. Good luck with that.

[@markreams3192]

$83,000 puts that truck out of range for a lot of people. I guess you could finance it for the rest of your life!😂 GM is behind the curve on power output. Ford again has raised the bar for HP and torque at 500 and 1200 available. That fifth wheel clearance on the bed is going to cost them sales. GM engineers are missing the boat on why people buy a truck like this. As far as the bed is concerned, they’re putting form over function. It’s okay if you want a pretty truck that doesn’t do all the things you would like it to do!😂 All that for $83,000. Sign me up. On second thought, forget it!🤣

[@garysarratt1]

The power crown isn’t relevant to most of us. Ford is going after hotshotters here. Farming can put on the weight too, so that use is also applicable. The big 3 have exceeded the requirements for us RV towers. They are aiming at hotshots and cdl types. Their competition fuels pissing contests for 90% of truck users, and is only applicable to a few.

[@amandadavis9726]

What good is 500 hp with 1200 lb-Ft of torque when it doesn’t get put to the ground? The GM always seem to put more to the ground in all of the tests that I’ve seen. That’s like saying,…”I’m bigger than you, therefore I’m stronger.”

You can buy slightly used and save$$$$$ Diesels will last