MrBeast's $100 Million Suit Against Beast Burger

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[@SailorOutlawGeorgeIshaq]

Family Guy 😊

[@uhspagettspookedya]

Have you done a Logan Paul Cryptozoo update now that his lawyers are involved? lol😂

[@randomguy1769]

How about The Truman Show?

[@jackcrassus168]

Our politicians are too old to understand the types of things they are supposed to be regulating, and it creates massive gaps in the law people can exploit. I am embarrassed to say I fell victim to an AI scam where I thought it was my cousin asking for help, but I cannot tell you how much the cops just did not care. Catfishing? Fraud? How complete are our laws to deal with this?

[@themroc8231]

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[@twithnell]

I would argue that Eddy Burback's video about ghost kitchens was way more damning for VDC than Jimmy could have ever done.

[@alyssalauren8088]

Such a good video

[@MikeWazowski42069]

Eddy killed Jimmy Buffet :'(

[@bhambhole]

That was a great episode

[@VorpalSnickerSnack]

Lol also made a comment about Eddy's deep dive.

[@yourin8er]

@@MikeWazowski42069it’s 5 o’clock somewhere took jimmy out.

[@dclikemtndew]

The reason McDonalds can franchise out around the globe and maintain the same level of quality at every location is because they have extreme amounts of oversight. If you want to own a McDonalds, you have to do everything their way. You have to use their cooking equipment, cook everything a certain way, and have all of the product come from their suppliers. Beast burger has none of this. How could this have turned out any other way?

[@Lurdiak]

Between this and feastables, the man seems to have a pattern of trying to take low cost shortcuts to mass marketing his fame and then trying to defer responsibility when it inevitably backfires.

[@guitarbass22]

A better example of this is Chic Fil A, which has one of the lowest monetary barriers to starting a franchise but by far the highest barrier when it comes to actually getting a franchise, considering all the hoops you have to jump through. That being said, it doesn’t do anything except reinforce your point that quality control is absolute key, and I am in sheer disbelief that this is the first instance of ghost kitchens failing miserably. It’s just the first we’ve heard about it because of who MrBeast is, and how big he is right now. The whole concept, though, is stupid af.

[@AL5520]

They can do that because they didn't try to build global dominance in a week. They worked for decades on adjusting the system, improving it, fixing kink and adapting to different cultures. They work with franchisee's that they carefully checked before letting them sell their products. Today making a big hit at the account of others is more important than staying in business.

[@gljames24]

You don't even need a franchise, a retail cooperative like Ace Hardware has does a decent enough job for accountability.

[@renedekker9806]

McDonalds maintain the same level of quality at every location. That is true. Whether that is a good level of quality is an entirely different question.

[@phyternl]

I particularly enjoyed VDC's argument, basically: "Look, even if we were serving substandard food, you have to agree that guaranteeing quality from over 2000 kitchens is pretty much impossible anyway, so it's not really our fault!" The problem is that VDC can't make promises about its quality and pitch that to investors only to later argue that it was always unachievable but then argue that it was basically achieved because at least half of the customers who ordered food didn't complain. I mean that's what cooks call stupid food.

[@SnakebitSTI]

It's a terrible argument. It might not be a bad legal argument though.

[@scientificthesis]

I don't see what's terrible about this argument. If quality control was not part of the agreement, then they are right that its basically impossible to ensure quality. If quality control was party of the agreement and what they say is true, then depending on what standards are, at least 50% of the customers not complaining would satisfy the contract. I'm not sure if lying on your pitch of the service you are providing is illegal but it might be.

[@Rockboygg]

​@unaminggaming quality control is part of running a food bussiness. Its IMPLIED that food products to be cooked, served and deliver under strict quality standards. Serving substandard food can get you sued for food poisoning and drag Mr.Beast on that lawsuit as his name is in the brand. He wants to avoid being sued.

[@sheldonpopesp]

lol i can't imagine a restaurant chain saying they cannot be on the hook for the horrible quality of their food @@scientificthesis

[@inailedyourmom1]

I mean, I can tell you, I never got Mr beast burgers for me son because all the reviews where absolute trash, anything mr beast said about vdc, I had never heard, but the reviews told the story.

[@hunterwyeth]

Can’t wait for this case to spawn a Supreme Court precedent and law students will have to memorize *Beast Burger*

[@russelljacob7955]

You made a verbal agreement with video documentation promising no more puns, then violated said commitment followed by a confession of lying about said statement. I do not know if I can ever trust a lawyer again...

[@andrewlalis]

"Again" implies you've trusted a lawyer at some point in the past, which is already quite questionable.

[@Jehty21]

some people are slow learners 😛@@andrewlalis

[@backupplan6058]

Video includes a transcript, I’m calling that a written agreement.

[@GSBarlev]

Objection! By clicking on a Legal Eagle video you agreed to a certain level of expected punnage-a level that could not have been met without the subsequent meat jokes.

[@eddiec5036]

The only lawyer you can trust is the one you’re paying.

[@theprecipiceofreason]

It's almost like having random strangers make food for you with little oversight was a dumb idea.

[@CabbageYe]

I don't think restaurants are a dumb idea. There are plenty good ones

[@DeltaGengar]

​@@CabbageYelittle oversight means none at all. Different than regular restaurant

[@niccoloparker3548]

Not really for an initial business it was widely successful. Got Jimmy some reliable Cash outside of his KZbin business.

[@Gakulon]

​@@CabbageYe Yeah, but those are very highly specific strangers, not random

[@whom382]

It's kinda no different than franchises. Some brands (e.g. McDs, Chick-A-Fil) tightly control their franchisees and you almost always get the expected food. OTOH, you get something looser control (say Subway or Taco Bell allegendly) the quality wildly verifies.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Former Macca's (McDonald's) worker here. There is a reason Macca's HQ has their own literal Gestapo that show up every couple months without warning to check your QC standards, use by dates and crew training standards. Say what you want about the hit or miss quality at McDonalds around the world. Down here in Australia at least, you will always get at least a 5/10 which goes up to an 8 if you're drunk. The idea that you can run a hospitality establishment without QC infrastructure is baffling

[@gymnasiast90]

Damn, all the KZbinrs I follow seem to pop up in each other’s comment sections, even if they handle totally different subjects.

[@CyanideSlushie]

I travel a lot for work, and McDonald’s is always pretty much consistent in terms of quality. At least for most items.

[@zero95lucky]

@@gymnasiast90 KZbin puts comments from ppl ur subscribed to near the top, it's not just upvotes from being recognized. So I've heard.

[@jalabi99]

@AnimarchyHistory do Macca''s ice cream machines fail as often Down Under as they do here in the States? I've always wondered about that.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@jalabi99 In Australia, there was a guy who worked in McDonalds and figured out a process which would minimise the breakdowns of their soft serve machines, then started his own business getting McDonalds stores to pay him to clean their machines instead of having their own staff do it. He started out in only one city, but has since expanded to all of Australia. So no, not as often as in USA... but still more often than the machines in any other franchise, because McDonalds has a global exclusivity deal to only use machines from a terrible company (and when I'm telling a story about McDonalds and calling someone else terrible instead of them, you know it's bad). The company made a deal to be an exclusive provider for the brand, with restrictions which there's room to argue are unreasonable by most civilised laws (and even arguably against the law in some US states, hence there being an ongoing court case about them in the States at the moment).

[@extrahistory]

I love that "Contract Law" graphic so much. Fly you beautiful fiery wings of legal verbiage, fly!

[@logawinner]

That came up as I read this comment.

[@HandsomeMax33]

He does not edit the videos himself.

[@robbymidgettofficial]

@@HandsomeMax33 Nothing about the original comment implied that he did? They just said they liked the graphic.

[@avgeekviolinist]

@@HandsomeMax33 "You" refers to the aforementioned beautiful fiery wings of legal verbiage, not to their actual or implied creator(s).

[@bend3rbot]

​@@avgeekviolinist I came here to replies hoping to find just this qualifying peach. 🍑

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

Having delivered Mr Beast Burgers, I can tell you why it's this way... One of the places doing it I've delivered from was a Mexican restaurant. Another was an Italian restaurant, and on and on. Basically it's a bunch of restaurants specializing in things other than burgers, that don't serve burgers normally, and the chefs are trained on their own stuff by the head chef. Since there is no actual real Mr Beast Burger restaurant, there is no head chef to train and set a standard of quality control. And as someone who has been a head chef at 2 restaurants, I can tell you that it's pretty much an impossible thing. No store manager is going to let some corporate chef from a company they don't work for come in to their kitchen and tell them how to do things, and having two head chefs, their own and the ghost kitchen's teaching the staff is going to disrupt the kitchen. Not to mention the entire point to ghost kitchens of that sort is to not have to train anybody. You just give the contracted restaurants your recipes and they make it for customers.

[@SimuLord]

And they get paid the same no matter the quality of what goes out the door. No skin off their back if that contract food is terrible, so it's going to be dead last on the priority list.

[@AngeliqueElijah]

I don't think most people fully understand this; I mean you wouldn't go to a Mexican or Italian restaurant and order burgers and fries. I've never had any issues when I've ordered, because they come out of Ruby Tuesdays which do burgers and fries all the time.

[@thefatefish]

Wait, you're telling me you were a head chef at two different restaurants but now you're a food delivery person? Sus

[@TheodoreBrosevelt]

​@@AngeliqueElijah I've never seen a burger at an Italian place but we do have Mexican restaurants in Texas that do hamburgers and they're actually pretty good. They don't use a regular hamburger bun, it's more like a brioche bun with steak fries.

[@FlyingSagittarius]

​@@thefatefish"Delivery" is also a production term meaning to fill an order.

[@MitchQuadrupleTree]

A big problem I've noticed with the whole "ghost kitchen" concept is that they contract the actual work out to pre-existing restaurants, all of which presumably have their own clientele to worry about serving. That is just adding even more work to an already overworked kitchen.

[@Jeegus21]

Those restaurants shouldn’t contract out extra work they can’t deal with then…

[@MitchQuadrupleTree]

@@Jeegus21 I absolutely agree.

[@Dontdoit_]

i think this is also a problem with just online ordering anyways.

[@bobberry1463]

if a kitchen is overwork than they don't need to do a ghost kitchen because it a waste of money. the problem is the only people doing ghost kitchens are really bad restaurants.

[@zed739]

​@@Jeegus21the kitchen employees don't make those decisions. The owners and managers--notably, people who do very little if any of the extra work and collect all of the profits--decide what the kitchen staff has to do.

[@odolowa1]

I'm reminded of the situation with KFC and Colonel Sanders. Sanders eventually cut ties with the company and continually disparaged the quality of the product, eventually he stopped as part of an out of court settlement but it's held up as one of the great cautionary tales of tying your brand to a real person.

[@callak_9974]

Apparently he did go to various chains of KFC to teach the staff how to do it right however....

[@alisa9040]

KFC is super gross. Not a fan.

[@elisabethscott20]

​@@alisa9040KFC is hot garbage but I will eat it for every meal 😂

[@negate3]

He disparaged KFC because they decided to start cutting corners on ingredients and quality control. So, in that sense, he was absolutely right.

[@RustCole01]

@@elisabethscott20 LOL, agreed. I will suffer the upset stomach and crush KFC Famous Bowls w a side of wedges no problem. The wedges help chase the after-taste from the bowls.

[@maikatase]

I think ghost kitchens are the real issue here. Seems like there's no way to guarantee food safety from a food inspection standpoint, and no way to guarantee food quality from a consumer standpoint. Hopefully there will be some legislation covering this type of business venture in the coming years.

[@cassinipanini]

i wonder if they could come at it from a 'truth in advertising' kind of way? like you must list the actual source restaurant of where the food is being made.

[@TimParker-Chambers]

'Safety' 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@pi4795]

It's just one more lazy and zero effort cash grab from a famous person. "Here is my name, take it and sell burgers for me while I get more famous and more money without doing anything"

[@FinnFann]

It definitely is an issue. What I'm seeing is some of them use it as a way to increase revenue while putting their all behind it. Others see it as a way to get rid of their food right before or after it goes bad for money without risking their own ratings. I got to see both nearby me. One really took it seriously. The other used it to dump the food that was going or had gone bad.

[@maikatase]

@@TimParker-Chambers why the quotes? It's definitely an issue. It's less of a problem with existing kitchens launching a side gig for ghost kitchens. However I've heard of multiple reports of kitchens reopening just through ghost kitchens and food inspectors/agency are having a hard time keeping track of them.

[@bkucenski]

Contractors are notoriously unreliable. Reviews should relate to the specific ghost kitchen which produced the food the customer is reviewing. By rolling all reviews into the brand, it just removes accountability from individual kitchens, which is the goal. If you are getting your Beast Burger from an established company like Red Robin, you're probably going to have a perfectly decent product. But a number of trash kitchens also claim to sell the burger while producing trash instead. Virtual Dining Concepts is a demon company that doesn't want to hold those kitchens accountable but also blocks people like Mr Beast from banning those kitchens from making his products if they don't meet quality guidelines.

[@leethax100]

these food delivery apps will never publicly acknowledged ghost kitchens

[@bkucenski]

@@leethax100 you can often look up the address listed on Google maps and see what the real business is. Especially if you can pick up the order.

[@ventusvero4484]

As a contracting officer who has been fighting against apathy and misinformation for decades, I disagree. Contractors are just like people, some suck, some dont. The problem, is an OVERWHELMING number of cases, is the evaluation/selection. How did you pick your contractor? The lowest price found technically acceptable is going to be the bare minimum. Most contract selection doesn't want to do the work, so they get lazy, and they take 'the path of least resistance ' and you get what you put in. A better process is to heavily weigh past performance and be very, very specific in the scope and expectations. A good contractor is going to welcome being clear and specific, so long as you dont breach into placing undue burden on the contractor.

[@jimmyvau]

It's funny to me that you used Red Robin as an example of a quality burger.

[@PBMS123]

​@@jimmyvau quality in terms of quality control, and not whether the burger is a "Good" burger

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

VDC is actually a huge company. They have almost a monopoly on the virtual restaurant business and are the actual company behind countless different restaurants.

[@inefffable]

Idk why but they seem especially snakey. Would not be surprised if they coordinate to keep competition low

[@lingus1382]

It’s actually such a problem, if you go on something like DoorDash it seems like every other restaurant on there is clearly some overpriced ghost kitchen that’s trying to trick you into thinking they actually make good food

[@diptube6563]

Cuz it is shady, someone can probably find a way it's used for money laundering or crime

[@aurorethebore]

@@diptube6563 Someone probably already has

[@shadowninja6689]

That may be true, but from what I've seen in other videos they've lost almost all of the other big names that once signed onto them. If they lose Jimmy then that'll be a serious blow to what's left of their business.

[@robloggia]

I think this just highlights the fact that a ghost kitchen has no benefit for the consumer. It's just the illusion of more restaurants in a given area.

[@smugboi_]

I cannot imagine the insanity the workers faced on the first day of that Mr. Beast burger in Jersey I mean, the place literally just opened. For some of those employees that might be their first job or at least first fast food job. I cannot imagine. What a nightmare

[@rustyhowe3907]

Agreed! Having worked behind the scenes and at the front it breaks my heart thinking of much of a shizz show they went through to keep it all running smoothly.

[@eddapultstab2078]

Well if you worked retail, it's called "black friday"

[@F1LDB]

I used to work at the busiest drive through kfc in England, we did around 1000 customers per day in the week (give or take 100) and up to 1500 on Friday Saturday Sunday.. it was hell on weekends I can't imagine how bad it was at the first store opening for Mr Beast 😂😂😂😂

[@emmakane6848]

I think they mentioned the documentary about it in the video, but the head chef had to train everyone knowing that it was going to be crazy. I remember he basically said “Today is today, and nothing is ever going to be like this again,” for the opening.

[@kiraina25]

​@@eddapultstab2078For grocery workers like I was for a while, more like Black Wednesday...

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:05 - Chapter 1 - MrBeast complaint 4:00 - Chapter 2 - IP rights 4:40 - Chapter 3 - MrBeast legal claims 6:25 - Chapter 4 - VDC's countersuit 9:50 - Chapter 5 - VDC legal claims 10:50 - Chapter 6 - Did anyone materially breach the contract 12:50 - Chapter 7 - Damages 14:35 - End roll ads PS: The eagle goes beast mode !

[@lowmax4431]

The way he's cooking in a full ass suit 💀

[@WilliamSt.Clair1399]

12:17 Sam Seder cuts in

[@eileennovak1656]

very cool of you to do- ty

[@Crowald]

Thanks a ton for this. Very helpful.

[@andrewschaeffer8147]

Mr.Beast is a scammer so it’s completely hypocritical for him to sue someone else

[@noddygarg]

This is a huge problem with ghost kitchen, lack of accountability, no standards, poor quality... This also happened with Sides from sidemen but they were able to recover as they were relatively small scale

[@taylorslade961]

So...if I understand this correctly, Mr Beast contracted this Virtual Dining company who then sub-contracted to restaurants to make these burgers. So, the quality of the burger really rested solely on the shoulders of whatever line cook was on duty that particular day and how they feel about Mr Beast. This sounds like a GREAT business plan.

[@DomzyDX]

Vdc has been doing this for years, but only recently has it been shown that vdc has literally given rights to people to open a ghost kitchen which wasn't even remotely monitored literally in their own at home kitchen or in random warehouses. Vdc is gross

[@taylorslade961]

@DomzyDX Cool? I wasn't speaking about VDC specifically. I was talking the business model in general. It sucks. It would suck regardless of who was involved.

[@bobafettjr85]

I feel no sympathy for Mr. Beast or VDC. If you want your name on a product and you want that product to be good, then you should make the product yourself and control your business directly. The Mcdonald brothers didn't want to franchise specifically because it was so hard to control quality at every location. Ray Kroc found a way to enforce that quality control. Now McDonald's is everywhere. If this were a simple endorsement deal then I could understand the tarnished reputation claims. But MrBeast specifically wanted it to be his product without putting the effort into creating a product.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

It's funny you mention "control" here because that's one specific part of the lawsuit here. So I think you, by your own metrics, should toss him a bone.

[@bobafettjr85]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd He contracted out to VDC. Jimmy himself did not make a burger to sell. He sold his brand name to a company who then in turn let random kitchens sell a burger using that name. If Jimmy really wanted to sell a product he himself should have at the very least contracted directly with the kitchens to enforce product quality.

[@pluna3382]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Mr Beast fans should enter the olympics. You do the craziest mental gymnastics for your rich cult leader

[@aryanram02]

basically wanted to make quick instant cash and exploited his gullible child audience with very overpriced burgers that tasted inferior

[@Aedar]

Objection! (remember when we would object to stuff in the video and they would be either sustained or overruled? Good times) at 4:29 you highlited "EU" but your map animator missed at least 3 EU countries (Finland, Ireland, Slovakia). And yes, I realise this isn't enough for an objection, I just missed doing it :)

[@lorcannagle]

I feel it's entirely justifiable as an objection

[@jerryduffin1358]

Sustained.

[@minerscale]

​@@jerryduffin1358If you say objection sustained one more time I'm going to scream!

[@Sanodi21]

I highly recommend this to Legal Eagle and everyone, but as a companion piece to this video, Eddy Burback did a really good video talking about and visiting ghost kitchens, talking a bit about VDC, some incidents, and even orders from them to check the food. Including from Mr.Beast's place which is as bad as you'd expect. It actually helps you understand Mr.Beast's POV over VDC's

[@DomzyDX]

This is a legal video, it's explaining the legal perspective and what will likely happen in court, not what his opinion is. But yeah vdc has literally allowed people to run ghost kitchens out of warehouses with rats or random people's kitchens

[@Sanodi21]

@@DomzyDX But Eddy's video gives a good glimpse at the state of affairs for VCD and gives some credence to the problems Mr.Beast has with them as well that they've overexpanded and oversaturated the ghost kitchen market to the point that they don't even know where people are ordering from. Eddy got thanks for ordering from Mr.Beast from a location without it

[@IIxIxIv]

​​@@Sanodi21what it does not do, however, is show us the contract between the 2 parties that would show whether this is actually a breach of contract. So in terms of the legal battle it's not really relevant unless the contract has specific information on that.

[@SkinniJ]

@@IIxIxIvWell said.

[@jaystarr6571]

5:39 Providing incompetent services?? Seems like an industry standard these days.

[@lukes9192]

Wow, VDCs countersuit is some fighting words. Its ine thing to argue that the food and contract details weren't followed to a high enough standard, it's another to say one party was just blowing meetings, blocking things they're suing over not happening, and straight up lied about being paid. Those are all pretty easily verifiable too ...

[@magicman6908]

i had a mr. beast burger but it was incredibly obvious the burger was from a ruby tuesday as my drink came in a ruby tuesday cup. The burger wasnt bad at all, but I can imagine that since it was from a restaurant already preparing 'gormet' burgers that it was probably better than a completely random store that doesn't typically make burgers.

[@demifolk8940]

yea mine came from a local burger joint in my town that already made really good burgers. the 3 or so times i ordered mr beast, it always came from them and was really really good.

[@phanthelia]

Everything VDC said in response reeks of "Bro, our profits are through the roof, who cares what the customers think", which is hilarious since that's exactly what the lawsuit they're trying to counter says about them

[@B3RyL]

Which is exactly what KZbinrs care for. Their brand is entirely based on popularity. For KZbinrs, profits and popularity are often times literally one and the same, and all the other times they are inextricably linked. If MrBeast's team can prove that beyond reasonable doubt, they may have some standing.

[@mstrmren]

wait are you really advocating against VDC here? Yes they're a big corporation but that doesn't mean Mr Beast is in the right.... He signed that contract and that's what happens when you don't think about what you're signing

[@ratholin]

70% 5 star ratings 50% of customers are return customers. That's above industry average. It's really telling that when it started doing well the influencer demanded a bigger cut, and then when they stuck to the contract he tried to torpedo the brand so he could try to buy it out.

[@B3RyL]

@@mstrmren We don't know what he signed, but I really don't think he's that stupid. He can certainly afford a lawyer to go through a contract before he signs it.

[@morganseppy5180]

​@@B3RyLthen he should have paid attn when Guy Fierri pulled out.

[@reallyanti]

The first Mr. Beast burger I ever had was actually 10/10 delicious. Every one I ever had after that was varying degrees of terrible and inedible, like one had two strange and unusual bottom buns(that were also burnt to a crisp.) and one even had some strange sauce on it. I completely gave up on them. Jimmy is right.

[@BlackPeggy]

Was the first one you got at the physical location or did you order it

[@nothisispatrick6528]

if Jimmy was really shooting for quality do you really think he would have started selling the burgers in ghost kitchens?

[@jiblitin1520]

@@nothisispatrick6528 Maybe he didn't know about ghost kitchens.

[@SgtLion]

Jimmy explicitly signed up to a deal that clearly had no meaningful explicit requirement of quality - he didn't care, he just wanted a bunch of money and he got that, and now has to pretend he cares to save his image.

[@LobstersLobsters]

So he made 3 burger sales for 1/3 the product delivery? MrBeast is a swindler who markets his charitable givings to convince people otherwise.

[@rgrwlco]

My 7yo and I didn't know who Mr. Beast was when we ordered dinner. It is now a running joke in the house that anything disgusting is "Mr. Beast!" Yeah, the food wasn't good. We couldn't finish it.

[@rossjames8839]

Incredible example of a tarnished brand

[@thomaskiser3886]

How didn’t they know Mr Beast?? Haha

[@spammerscammer]

Dang are you and your kid from North Korea?

[@grimpmann4068]

@@thomaskiser3886 I didn't know who MrBeast was until about a year ago. Those were better days not knowing about him.

[@thomaskiser3886]

Heck yea, I just thought he was really really popular amongst younger kids specifically haha. I only found out about him in the last year as well@@grimpmann4068

[@Freedomcustom]

Unfortunately without actually seeing the contract signed by both parties this is all speculation and assumptions but we can probably agree that all parties dropped the ball on the entire idea and quality of the product on the long run

[@georgeh6856]

This seems like a bad venture to open virtual restaurants and then expand so quickly. They should have gotten the basics down first, and expanded much more slowly. Mr. Beast should not enter into contracts which use his brand if he does not have much control over the products.

[@obvious_giraffe8386]

Yeah but thats work

[@iversiafanatic]

That’s why he’s suing them, because they didn’t do that, and they just lied and said they would. Now people like you think he’s stupid. That’s the point of the whole lawsuit

[@StFido]

Well it was (according to the law suit) it was Mr. Beast who wanted to expand so quickly, which seems to be in line with his other ventures. So I don't think it's fair to imply that it was a bad idea for him to enter the contract when it seems like the reason why the quality went down hill was his fault.

[@durdleduc8520]

i think it's very easy for outsiders looking in to criticize his decision making, but the existence of the lawsuit implies that he thinks there was real breach of contract, i.e., he didn't actually sign a contract that had such a high risk of threatening his brand.

[@georgeh6856]

@@StFido That's why I used the word "if". I don't know what was in the contract, and neither does anyone else commenting here. So I do not presume to know which party is in the right and which party is in the wrong. That is for the court to decide.

[@shibasurfing]

I ordered MrBeast Burger once out of sheer curiosity. It wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t great either. Overpriced when I can just go to Shake Shack, In’N’Out, or Bob’s Atomic Burgers

[@bigk777]

Does Bob’s Atomic Burgers just have one location?

[@saynotop2w]

You had me until you implied Shake Shack wasn’t expensive

[@shibasurfing]

@@bigk777 just the one, I felt like giving them a shout-out because their burgers are the bomb

[@Oxygen1004]

​@@saynotop2wat least what they give you is pretty good

[@shibasurfing]

@@saynotop2w oh I know, the price is pretty similar to MrBeast burger though and the quality is far higher. Hence why I said overpriced.

[@TonyGearSolid]

He signed onto the deal knowing what running a business through ghost kitchens meant and is now trying to act like it's somehow a big surprise that quality control isn't very viable.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

He's acting like VDC made a promise through a written contract and then they didn't fulfill that part of the contract.

[@qualandrew201494]

​@@DanielFerreira-ez8qdThats litrally what they did. no one signs a deal under the impression of the company will make bad products

[@TonyGearSolid]

​@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd If his allegations are true, then he should most certainly sue the pants off of VDC., he should also fire the people on his team he consulted with before signing the contract, because the company (allegedly) claiming that quality control is possible when 1000s of random restaurants are fulfilling the orders should've been a huge red flag.

[@whocares9033]

"It's not a breach of contract to serve terrible food" Bro, that sums up so much of America

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

I mean... the guy said "my company's food sucks so bad, it's embarrassing" to his audience of hundreds of millions and is trying to use the damage it did to his reputation as a way to weasel out of a contract he was stupid for signing in the first place. A case like this makes me wish both sides could lose and be punished for their crimes against humanity, and wasting the time of people who actual provide something to society.

[@annalieff-saxby568]

I'd have thought that wouldn't stand if a restaurant advertised "Good Food Served Here".

[@GZilla311]

@@dontmisunderstand6041"We sentence both of you a fine for wasting this court's time."

[@danny_is_dude1725]

Did you and every other commenter just not hear the first part of that argument? They started out with providing evidence that their food isn't bad with 70% reviews, and then followed it up by saying even if his claim was true, it wouldn't be a breach of contract. Presumably, the second part was referring to the contract itself not mentioning the quality of the food. Of course, we don't have the contact so we don't know how true that is, but it's not an unreasonable argument given what a ghost kitchen is.

[@neireannach]

It’s probably the overworked, underpaid employees at these restaurants that already have to cater to their own menu. Their greedy boss walks in and is like “ok we’re adding a bunch of new items that you have to prep and make now! Oh and you still have to do everything else too.” I’d make a bad burger too.

[@LibertyMonk]

Eh, most of the time the items they're adding are the same thing with a different name. Maybe it has a different special sauce, packaging, or added bacon, but that's it. The operators know it's expensive to have too wide of a menu, so they mostly just sell what they already make as something else. Or they have everything pre-made and frozen a la Cheesecake Factory.

[@JT_WARCRIME]

I disagree. I had them from 2 different restaurants: a Green Turtle (a "high-class" restaurant) and a Friendly's. It seems more like they didn't actually train the employees on what the food was supposed to look or taste like. The Green Turtle order was fresh meat and buns, but burger was almost literally a large meatball and the onions on the burger and fries were raw. The Friendly's one was more like meatloaf and they forgot the fries. I can't blame the Friendly's order (it's Friendly's), but the first place definitely wasn't trained on what the food was supposed to be. I was an overworked and underpaid employee at McDonald's, but I still did everything right. It's up to corporate and management to sort out the bad employees and control the quality.

[@fearguyQ]

I take issue with "greedy boss" running a resturant is notoriously difficult and precarious. For once, these bosses aren't the picture of corrupt capitalism. Often people just trying to run a business.

[@Kyle_P]

It’s basically just expanding the menu with a different subset of options. If a place doesn’t have enough business on their own, they would consider an agreement like becoming a ghost kitchen. The problem is that quality control is nonexistent with most large-scale versions. You never get the true “company training” of how to make items properly. Compare that to how existing chains will bring in experienced employees to teach people at new locations. Add to that the facts that you might not have all the exact same ingredients on hand and feel no need to uphold a third party’s image, and it can get bad fast.

[@Malyt538]

Exactly

[@nrsrymj]

Can you do a video on Alabama's defiance of federal court orders regarding their maps?

[@Southerntrainsandmore]

Please

[@trogdor20X6]

+1

[@kingofhearts3185]

Boosted

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

👍

[@V3x0r]

Ooo good topic.

[@andrewdok]

I tried it once, without knowing who MrBeast was. It was subpar and overpriced. I felt like they thought they could get away with selling a crappy product because it had a famous person's name on it.

[@matttran7161]

Bingo. That's exactly it. He has a crazy fan base that would buy dirt if he told them to. Which is why those tweets are damaging. A brand only has its image.

[@benn454]

"famous"

[@Kevik70]

@@benn454 Well he is the person with the 2nd most subscribers on youtube. About as famous as any one person on youtube can be.

[@salvadorHombre]

​@@benn454his videos cross 100M views regularly. Find me any TV Show that regularly hits those numbers. He's more famous than most TV celebrities.

[@benn454]

@@Kevik70 He's KZbin famous. Teenagers know who he is. Someone like Robert Downey, Jr. is actually famous. The entire world knows who he is.

[@Cheapiebeepie]

Gasp! Who would have thought that the food service equivalent to drop-shipping might be questionable and shady business???

[@7sevin7]

Back in 2020 I ordered from Beast Burger in San Antonio and it was terrible. I shared this story with my friends privately, but didn't leave a review. Had I known that doing so would have impacted this case however insignificantly I would have done so. I know that one extra bad review would do little. But, as they say about roaches, when you see one there are actually a hundred. It bothers me to contemplate the silent majority of customers like me who got a horrible product and said nothing.

[@7sevin7]

I wonder how impactful a petition of customers stating that they felt that the quality was bad but didn't leave a review would be?

[@kaspianepps7946]

If there were more negative reviews the company would probably just say that people are less likely to leave positive reviews. (Which I do think is true in general but I'm not sure about in this case as people might see leaving a positive review as a way to support MrBeast.)

[@Zangamarth]

@@7sevin7 It couldn't hurt. It may well help to prove that the complaints are, in fact, material. You'd want more specific information - stuff like which restaurant you ordered from, when and where, that sort of thing, but if it got some traction it could well be used in the case itself.

[@tk-zh3dd]

“No one made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could only do a little” - E Burke

[@demifolk8940]

i mean this probably applies to anything ever, dont get too hung up on it. a lot of people probably dont leave good or bad reviews, in fact people are usually more likely to leave a BAD review than a good one. and especially if something is mid, you’ll just immediately forget about it.

[@jsalsman]

Ghost kitchens will always be hit-and-miss because there's at least one extra layer of subcontracting so every location is usually different management, and can vary as much between shifts.

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

Interesting aspect of this case. If just as a general rule ghost kitchens are an unreliable business, does that forgive Mr. Beast for making this deal with them? If you were expecting a michellin star experience at a fast food restaurant, is that your own fault?

[@chrisxd146]

This is a weird one since VDC doesn't explicitly use VDC branded locations. The whole franchise for "MrBeast Burgers" is mostly just branding wherein a majority of the cooking done is either by other large franchises (Chili's, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc.), kitchens that operate under ~40 different brands, or even food trucks. This also makes it incredibly difficult for anyone who contracts VDC to file any lawsuits against them due to the how massive their network is and the layers of obscurity in figuring out who made your food and where. I'm not optimistic that MrBeast can win due to the fact that VDC operates under a massive amount of obscurity (which is by design). I think a judge and jury will be easily confused resulting in a ruling favoring VDC over the legitimate brand owners. I'm sincerely hoping this at least pushes the federal government into regulating ghost kitchens in general. VDC is making out like a bandit purely due to the fact that there isn't any centralized regulating body keeping them honest.

[@beeble2003]

It's almost like having a zillion KZbin subscribers doesn't imply you're actually good at anything other than getting KZbin subscribers.

[@aryanram02]

lmao true, he is good at another thing too, building a persona that you are a charitable philantropist god, when in reality he just uploads poverty porn for more sympathy and fucktonn of views and just makes videos of him "donatinG" there is never proof a receipt, there is never a transaction, a bill or proper documentation, its all just trust me bro economics i despise such youtuberes

[@steampunkfox4932]

Virtual Dining Concept's has a history of having low quality food and has had other celebrities also leave deals with Virtual Dining Concept's due to the exact same thing Mr. Beast is making so I wonder how that will effect things

[@acat6145]

Isn’t true that each trial is its own case?

[@steampunkfox4932]

@@acat6145 it could be used to show that the company has a history of low quality. Also there wasn’t any other cases with the other celebrities since the company let them get out of their contracts without any issues.

[@theritchie2173]

I'm not sure I would use Danny from RateMyTakeaway as a representative example of a satisfied customer, he gives anything & everything 10/10. Oh wait, that's probably exactly why they used him.

[@AquaBilliam]

It goes to show that it's best just to stay clear of celebrity restaurants in general (no matter how "real" they are). And that includes celebrity chef establishments. It's all about branding and ego, not providing a quality culinary experience.

[@TheZankoh]

While working on a Target commercial with Hello Merman; Thunder Studios where we were working on the commercial about inclusion Thunder Studios was preparing Mr. Beast Burgers on a loading dock without any fly net. Also, during this commercial shoot, a Thunder Studios stage manager repeatedly laughed at a PA's disability. Merman fired that employee, Target was okay, and I was told by the Production Manager "Thunder Studios threw money at the problem so they wouldn't have to apologize". The PA was black balled from the industry. That's the kind of business Mr. Beast associates with.

[@Saint_Rigal]

They deserve each other

[@Alex-cw3rz]

They also mostly use Ghost kitchens which are bad for the local economy, means there is less consistency and often means it is harder to find out the cleanliness ratings.

[@AlexusMaximusDE]

I don't know how a restaurant company could claim that serving food of adequate quality is immaterial to a contract with them and expect to retain any customers.

[@screamingcactus1753]

Because the majority of their customers don't actually know they're doing business with VDC. Their whole business model is built around saturating food delivery apps with hundreds of fake locations to push competition out of the search results. They'll operate upwards of forty "restaurants" out of one location, or operate a dozen "restaurants" out of a trailer that moves around to reduce delivery times on the app and get higher priority. It's not uncommon to find half a dozen restaurants suspiciously close to your home that all serve the exact same food for the exact same price.

[@JohnSmith-dx6em]

Around 7:19, there's a little fun fact, and I can say this as a former DoorDash driver. In 2022, when I did a majority of my driving, I delivered eleven MrBeast Burgers. The restaurant they were delivered from had, for a majority of the time, significant inaccuracies when it came to ratings, as DD encouraged higher ratings on the app itself. DD does this for a majority of their orders (hence the pop-up of "Like the food? Make sure to leave a five-star rating to show [restaurant name] some love!" or something similar).

[@Tylericous]

man opened a business using ghost kitchens then were surprised they sucked. Took the cheap way out and this is what you get sadly

[@Romanticoutlaw]

to be fair, he's young and gullible with more dollars than sense. It's surprising he hasn't been run aground by even more shady actors

[@GamerSapss]

Just for the review point, if you are a fan of MrBeast, how likely is it that you uncritically would leave a 5/5 review? just because it has a lot of good reviews doesn't mean that it is a good image for his brand. I have heard of nobody who would recommend it, ever, and at best I've heard you can get lucky and get something, other than that the only thing it has going for it is the branding

[@bararobberbaron859]

Not the biggest fan of Jimmy but compared to VDC he's a downright saint. VDC is so very scummy, it's incredible they are somehow allowed to get away with it.

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

What do you mean? They did nothing illegal and Mr.Beast should have known better

[@stephenallen4635]

​@@TheBlueArmageddonthe reality of VDC is that they're just a random catering company using celebrities as sponsored advertisement. Its the celebrities fault for thinking they'd actually have something to do with the brand or the food

[@samu1414]

Neither are in the right, Jimmy's audience being so large forcing him to expand outwards to more locations a regions led him to push more and more on the brand, while ghost kitchens can't keep io with quality and don't have any easy way to control the performance of their workers since it's a ghost kitchen, this is more of a "hey maybe a KZbin star shouldn't try to go into an industry long established as having physical defined locations with a unifying brand

[@Fanta....]

@@samu1414 VDC also has some culpability in this as well. if they cannot or could not supply the level of quality expected, for the quantity required, then they should have been more upfront and honest and refused instead of just winging it with the inevitable results

[@samu1414]

@@Fanta.... I agree however the fact that some resturaunts were meeting quality expectations while others were not shows that VDC had the capability to serve good food in some locations and that they cannot always be fully honest about such endeavors when a contract might state otherwise and when going against one of the most beloved internet stars puts you in hot water

[@margaritoamargo6347]

Not sure why a KZbinr slapping his name on a burger chain created confidence in the product?

[@Terrafire123]

Because KZbinrs are trusted via parasocial relationships, and so if they endorse a product, there's an assumption that the youtuber approves of the product and therefore it must be a good product. Doubly so if a youtuber RELEASES their own product instead of endorsing somebody else's product.

[@Mahbeiserts]

Traditional celebrities have done the exact same thing since radio started. I’m not sure why anyone is confused over this?

[@ValueNetwork]

With this Beast burger failure, and the very recent failure of the Mr beast creator league (a NFT operation using influencers) I don’t think Jimmy is super smart when he creates ventures with his insane amounts of money

[@GerryRR]

I think he just doesn't care

[@derekwatson1118]

He should probably stick to KZbin. Looks like business isn't his strong suit.

[@leam1978]

Yeah rich people often overestimate their wit and savvy

[@hakageryu-hz7jz]

The more popular the KZbinr, the more money they make. The more money they make, that means more idiots are giving them their money to already rich people. And if history has taught us anything, its that your common person lacks self-reflection which translates into overestimating the intelligence of popular people and people they see in media. Most people don't know the difference between charisma and intelligence, just like most people are too naive and think these people are just like they see on the screen.

[@Jehty21]

That's what I was wondering. I don't understand how any celebrity could think founding a "virtual burger-chain" would be a smart idea. Especially if you outsource everything. For a normal business that wouldn't matter. If you get too many bad reviews just close the brand and open a new one. That's the beauty of a ghost-kitchen. But putting your name as a celebrity behind one? Why?

[@DOC_951]

Maybe shouldn’t have opened my stores and signed more contracts if you already had issues… that’s like having a kid thinking it will save a marriage

[@SgtLion]

Because he didn't care, he just wanted more money.

[@VS-kf5qw]

One of those times where I'm very sad that two parties can't both lose a case.

[@burningrabbit7278]

Totally. I'm really not sure who to root for in this lawsuit because I both want them to lose.

[@RainmakerXBooty]

They will both lose in the court of public opinion, mrbeast for whoring himself to every single venture for profit and fame and the ghost kitchen company for being greedy and not caring about quality control. Neither party looks good here

[@grommile]

Sometimes they can! The judge can find in one side's favour on half the points, in the other side's favour on the other half of the points, and order that the parties will bear their own costs. Only the lawyers win.

[@steffenjensen422]

I'm pretty sure Mr Beast actually didn't have bad motives for signing considering his publicity is based on YT not burgers and he gives away his money. Maybe a bad decision in hindsight, but I don't think a morally wrong one.

[@steffenjensen422]

@@Hexor_Tyr That much I will grant, yes. Definitely a bad decision, also morally wrong. But mainly with the benefit of hindsight. Before that one KZbin documentary, no one I know knew how shady ghost kitchens are, it wasn't generally known. So I think it's excusable. But yeah, to reiterate: Bad decision, morally wrong decision. I think he's doing a lot of great stuff, but it's important that he stays grounded in reality.

[@Planag7]

So weirdly in my area the initial place that doordash got mrbeast burgers was from Red Robin some from what I've heard were pretty decent but when they went to denny's apparently halfway in the year they kind of got worse. Then again I don't like any of their ghost kitchen stuff so...

[@hydra5758]

I mean at Red Robin, the whole center of their business is fancy burgers. Denny's much less so, a quality drop isn't all that surprising.

[@Jamick98Geass]

Eddy Burback has a very in-depth video digging into ghost kitchens and specifically Mr. Beast Burgers.

[@ewandavidson1845]

Love your channel and have worked my way through your older videos, I just realised you missed out two famous legal movies, Adam's Rib, Tracy vs Hepburn. But more importantly a Robert Redford movie called Legal Eagles!

[@generalrubbish9513]

The whole idea behind "ghost kitchens" is that you don't have a single establishment or chain producing your food, but a whole lotta independent contractors including food trucks, kitchen trailers, and these big shared kitchens that MULTIPLE different "virtual restaurants" operate from at the same time. Can one really be surprised that the quality of the food is wildly inconsistent?

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

When it's likely written in contract that they will handle quality control concerns, yes. Yes they can.

[@generalrubbish9513]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd I'm not trying to excuse their practices, I'm just saying that the lack of quality control in ghost kitchens doesn't really surprise me.

[@lexiesilveira5105]

I've had Mr Beast Burgers before once never again I asked for no Mayo and no Onions and they put extra of both

[@Yzyenthusiast]

That’s what you deserve for ordering mr beast burgers

[@ghosttheripper8656]

It's so expensive, cost like double the amount of a fast food burger and is worse in quality

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

I asked for no seminal fluid on my burger and guess what was on it

[@sigmascrub]

​@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepperyummy 😋

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@Yzyenthusiastwell you gotta try it once cause funny Mr beast

[@clytemnestra]

I ordered once and it came from a Red Robin and was just ok - it's kind of difficult to get quality when producing the food isn't necessarily given restaurants probably aren't prioritizing their ghost kitchens.

[@jayrigger7508]

Random fact I have never had a Mr beast Burger, I have no interest in having him Mr beast Burger, I actually find branding based on a KZbinr off-putting and would actually intentionally avoid the product and this drama makes it doubly so

[@trollking2669]

I dont think u know what “random” means

[@GravellionDaizeen]

I'm so happy I found you- especially since it's thru a different KZbinr I enjoy. It's like win win feeling.

[@ChristianNeihart]

With Legal Eagle, I always ketchup on the latest legal news. Thanks Legal Eagle, you're a big dill!

[@PwnytailJoe]

How odd, I literally just finished watching Eddy Burback's Virtual Kitchens video right before this dropped

[@MattSmith38258]

I love you and you’re new partners videos and rarely hear you smash the like button, with paradoxically makes me want to smash it more for you. Smashed! Reminders like this are good. Keep up letting your and your teams work speak for itself!

[@verdatum]

Wooooow. I've never understood the love of Mr. Beast, but people can enjoy whatever they like. Even when hungry and little else was open, I've never ordered any Mr. Beast Burger, as I've always been rather hesitant about ghost-kitchens. But I'm pretty amazed that they're going through issues that cannot be resolved outside of the court system. I do feel like this endorsement of Mr. Beast Burger ended up cheapening Mr. Beast's brand. But my knowledge of that aspect is extremely limited, because again, I don't really understand the appeal of his content, presuming I'm just too old, and that he's mostly successful through clever KZbin algorithm exploitation and leveraging of social media.

[@bent8787]

The allure of his content is that its the opposite of the current media content model. Current media relies on the perpetuation of doom and gloom, while his content relies on positivity and excess. I understand why people wouldn't like his content, but I overall think he is an extremely good influence on KZbin. Regardless of his reasoning, he does do quite a bit of good in the world especially considering where he came from.

[@coreyrobinson8209]

​@@bent8787 His "positivity" comes off to me as a false pretense, manufactured in a lab to exploit the algorithm. I don't think he's a bad dude, but he seems to be motivated by fame and adoration more than anything else.

[@bent8787]

@coreyrobinson8209 Then you get the question about whether his motives actually matter here. I think he's genuine, you don't, but the objective reality is that he often helps a lot of people with his platform. I think that even if he isn't being altruistic, he's still doing net good. Furthermore, he's human, humans crave approval and adoration for things that they are passionate about. It's also a subjective opinion whether or not you find it genuine, and in the grand scheme of things I think that's irrelevant compared to the objective good he does.

[@verdatum]

@@bent8787 Thank you, bent, I appreciate your input. 🙂 Personally, I do what I can to limit my intake of that doom and gloom, but I tend to get positivety from educational channels. At least from what I've seen, Mr. Beast relies on his charisma, and people having their fantasies about the handouts he does. So I guess, I've got no problem with his content or people who are particularly into it, I think it just happens not to especially stimulate me. All is well :)

[@verdatum]

@@coreyrobinson8209 I think that's a bit closer to the perception that I get. But it's only a perception. I haven't been able to make conclusions about him, but I haven't had the motivation to do a deep-dive on what he does either. Since I've seen plenty of other personalities that strongly and rapidly raise warning flags for me, by comparison, I'm not especially concerned. But I still don't feel much interest in him getting fractions of a penny of my burger-money either.

[@larryinc64]

It seems like both parties in this deal were not in it for the best reasons, The court of public opinion is going to side with the youtuber over the faceless company, but everyone involved does not have seem to have their hands clean. It seems like Beast rn is in damage control mode and is just thinking the contract breach is a cost of doing business.

[@drakosflame]

[@russellmoore8187]

I'm sure it's because I'm old, but I am absolutely baffled as to what people find appealing about MrBeast videos.

[@Lurdiak]

Cult programming.

[@Just_A_Dude]

McDonald's keeps stringent quality control on over 13,000 locations in the US alone, let alone their global operations. If VDC can't handle basically 1/10th of that... yeah, they suck.

[@Modie]

Let's be honest. The whole legal battle is just a way for Mr. Beast to save face. His burger brand didn't do as well as he imagined. I am not sure if he was just naive or thought that his name alone would cover for the poor quality, but either way, it's not like he does the whole thing because he deeply cares about the quality. He does it so people think better of him. To save his brand name. Therefore, it's also really unimportant if he wins or loses. Because if he wins, he is just out, but if he loses, he can portray himself even more as a victim to make people like him.

[@novakrabby]

exactly, mr beast might be a nice guy but is still a billionaire, he jumped on this business as he would any other, rushed a mediocre product, exploited other business and people, made as much money as possible, then left before quality concerns come his way, repeat until you have a bunch of money He will do this again and people will fall for it again

[@Bladieblah]

Bold of you guys to assume the dude has any actual involvement in setting these things up. It was probably just pitched to his team and they talked it over with him and he agreed to do it, I doubt he has any actual involvement in the deal, probably just busy with his channel

[@jayden7945]

Mr beast allegedly had little to no oversight that's half the problem, he probably just assumed running a burger joint couldn't be that hard

[@mongoose9851]

Jimmy was 22 years old when beast burger opened. Of course he was naive.

[@baikhous]

@@mongoose9851 Not naive enough to try and cream as much money as possible with no skill, talent, or effort...the new American dream! 😂😂

[@jayspeidell]

It's the food version of drop shipping from Alibaba. How does he have so many hardcore fans showing up in the real world? It's a cash grab, not a sustainable business. He's just mad he took more of a reputation hit than he expected.

[@teezeehayes4155]

I work at a burger place that also Ghost cooks for Beast Burger and before we even got the materials for it my coworker who went to culinary school was telling us that it was gonna be bad. In the training video he added more oil than cheese to the grilled cheeses, and the "carmelized onions" are only cooked for a minute or less instead of being precooked and heated up like the ones we use on our own burgers. Also, the app doesnt let us set the time for how long a burger will take. It just tells us the order will be picked up in 12 minutes regardless of its size or how busy we are.

[@grayrook8637]

SHOCKINGLY a bunch of different ghost restaurants selling beast burgers out the back don't have a uniform quality while a business that's as much a ghost only goal was to cash in on the celebrity clout as quick as they could.

[@nvelsen1975]

You got that backwards, the concept of a ghost kitchen is to let a celebrity leech money off of other people's work quickly.

[@Gakulon]

​@@nvelsen1975 So basically the same as any other typical non-ghost kitchen

[@Eric-zo8wo]

0:08: 🍔 Mr Beast is suing virtual dining Concepts, the company behind Mr Beast Burger, alleging that the burgers are of poor quality and a breach of contract. 3:04: 📝 Mr Beast and Beast Investments are suing Virtual Dining Concepts (VDC) for breach of contract, trademark infringement, and other issues related to their joint venture in the Mr Beast Burger business. 6:34: 🍔 Virtual Dining Concepts (VDC) and Mr Beast (Donaldson) are engaged in a legal battle over a breach of contract, with VDC accusing Donaldson of damaging their business through negative comments and attempting to pressure them to sell Mr Beast Burger. 9:16: 🍔 The dispute between Mr Beast and Virtual Dining Concepts (VDC) centers around allegations of breach of contract and trademark ownership. 11:53: 🍔 The legal dispute between Mr Beast and Virtual Dining Concepts (VDC) involves allegations of breach of contract and damages. 14:58: 🍽 HelloFresh offers quick and easy recipes for delicious and healthy meals delivered straight to your door. Recap by Tammy AI

[@ForwardBias]

Almost all of these are the exact same thing, just worded slightly different. Why are people upvoting trash AI?

[@visforvalerie]

@@ForwardBias to be fair, that's what most ai does nowadays. chatgpt just rewords stuff in it's database (well, it's more complicated than that, but, yeah).

[@mipmipmipmipmip]

Seems when things go well, Mr Beast is a genius entrepreneur, when things go wrong, he is the victim of a bad contract. Mr Beast wants to have the cake and eat it too.

[@cynthiasimpson931]

200 million subscribers? I'd never heard of the guy (MrBeast) before this episode.

[@zhade3967]

The twist of the century

[@formarb8449]

I had MrBeast Burger a few times and it was really good. Then they started messing up the order giving me the wrong burger or seasoned fries with no season. Which was annoying but at least still tasted good. Then... something changed and the last 2 times it was just pure garbage. I don't have very high standards for my food honestly so the fact that I threw away my last burger after a few bites really says something.

[@upphgm]

Sweet! I’ve been waiting for LegalEagle to talk about this.

[@SkunkWerks7]

I feel like that 2-3 seconds of mall-chanting is a great answer to the question: "what is a cult?"

[@kimberith7143]

I ordered from one of those stores once. It was a grilled cheese that was an uncooked piece of cheese between two pieces of untoasted bread. I felt so ripped off. Haven't been back :(

[@nvelsen1975]

So a dubious celebrity making money off the backs of restaurant workers, is sueing a company helping him in making money off the backs of restaurant workers. ....Is there an option for the judge to rule against both corporate leeches MrBeast AND VDC?

[@RepstarVixen]

it might actually be possible that both of them are going to be judged to be in breach of the contract, wonder how that will end up though

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

One of them is an ethical dilemma ingrained into our society while the other is just a breach of contract. It's really not as gray as people think.

[@nbc4513]

Would love to get a legal breakdown on the wga/sag-aftra demands and the amptp offer to understand all of it on a legal stand point as well as what it could mean if federal were to get involved in the negotiations (which some predict will be the only way the actors/writers strike will get resolved)

[@DorkmasterFlek]

10:46 I did not believe you for a second when you said that was the last pun. 😂

[@LegitimateJuice]

Mr burger franchise lmao

[@TheRealBFKelleher]

Is it possible for both the plaintiff and the defendant to lose this case? Please??

[@firemyst9064]

After I saw food theory I was soooo hoping you would cover this!

[@stalka929]

"that was the last food pun" noooOOOOooo "I lied, there will be a lot more puns" 🎉

[@Real_ATF]

I thought the food comes from the restaurant that they cook outta and then call it a beast burger?

[@breeze7464]

Yes, that company runs what's known as ghost kitchens where they contract a restaurant to sell their menu items virtually

[@tmarritt]

Yes but they will have a contract that stipulates standards, they will order the stock from the main company. The issue is it's a difficult job to properly provide training and quality control for ghost kitchens, especially given the speed at which they expanded.

[@JoebDragon]

@@tmarritt I think they do more subcontracting then that and may have less stock control.

[@l33tminion]

It's not that unlike a franchise agreement, despite the extra layers of contractors. And there must be an absolute ton of case law on franchise contracts, given how many huge restaurant businesses use that model.

[@assessor1276]

From explaining political legal stuff to product liability, Legal Eagle is simply excellent!

[@itwashear]

I try and take the side of who ever isn't trying to mislead and once heard I heard them say he didn't post about his physical store enough they completely lost me... 10k people on opening day wasn't advertised?

[@tanianixzsmenchsharefort]

As a business major. Bad food is an image of the company... that includes the face of the sponsor. That's Mr. Beast. Trust me High end companies will never allow such things before going the attorney route

[@dimitrifake53]

Sorry, your comment is bit hard to read for me. What did you mean?

[@TheJacob232]

y'know when MrBeast Burger first popped up i ordered it knowing about the Virtual Kitchens thing and was out of morbid curiosity.....couldn't tell you if it was sub-par because i never even got my burger.....I imagine the driver couldn't find the kitchen

[@Nemo2342]

Ghosts are notoriously hard to find

[@darwinism8181]

Seems like if MrBeast didn't want to ever look bad he shouldn't have gotten into a ghost kitchen business that explicitly exploits customers.

[@harrytan5579]

He couldn't know how bad a ghost kitchen business can be before shaping the ghost kitchen induestries.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Not to mention these food delivery apps exploit their workers

[@airlight7173]

​@@harrytan5579mr beast isnt the first example of bad ghost kitchen food quality, theres been plenty of cases before beast came. Beast just wanted his name out there in food industry without doing much work

[@pauljoseph3081]

Just because you're a huge influencer, doesn't mean you're good at any business. MrBeast is doing instant expansion without a legit *FOOD MENU*

[@davida8407]

@3:55 best part - fantastic work editors!

[@damnkris]

Mr Beast fans will think the burgers are saving humanity regardless of the quality.

[@ppppppqqqppp]

The weird meme is that this is probably *actually* significant here, in that he can't really claim any damage to his brand when his brand is nearly untouchable.

[@v3prhunterkiller828]

this comment makes it clear you didn't watch the video

[@Krushak8888]

​@@v3prhunterkiller828its called a joke lol

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@ppppppqqqppp that really isn't how it works.