Old VS New Motorcycle | Have We Really Progressed?

[@MajorWoodster]

I loved my GT185. Got it new and rode it all over the country. Never let me down and had a lovely exhaust note. Wish I still had it. The other piece of plastic leaves me cold.

[@JoJo-hc4dj]

I prefer the looks of the older Suzuki they look so cool and not like the newer insect looks!

[@callumbush1]

Luddite

[@AF-O6]

I take slight exception that the old Suzuki is less reliable. Sure it will need a top end rebuild once in a while, carbs need jetting to keep running crisp, and perhaps renew the plugs much more frequently…but the old 2-stroke Suzukis were super dependable.

[@olethorhermansen5696]

One more difference between motorcycles now and then: The Suzuki, like all bikes then, has a center stand as well as a side stand while the Yamaha, like all bikes now, only has a sidestand. We all know that chain maintenance sucks, without a center stand it really sucks, so why do modern motorcycles have more chains than ever, but no center stands? And of course the Suzuki looks exactly like my first motorcycle, a Suzuki GT250, while the Yamaha looks like something I would stomp on, if I found it on my bathroom floor.

[@christopherpekel6096]

Rear tyre stand cost me a few quid online and lifts it up in 2 seconds I agree it makes it hard if you're touring and want to do roadside maintenance, but no issues at home I do agree with you however

[@colinleighfield7170]

I’ve been riding for 62 years and bought new bikes since 1976, the most recent being two years ago. I think that in styling terms, modern naked bikes are ugly and engines tend to look like the innards of a washing machine. The lack of mudguarding is stupid, the first things I do on modern machines is fit fender extenders and huggers. Also, the kicked-up back-ends make no sense to me and the restricted movement on seats is often uncomfortable on the long-distance rides I tend to do. Been there, done it, warts and all. I’m now riding a Triumph Speed Twin 900, even that needed a fender extender. However, it is traditionally comfortable, at home and abroad. Good compromise between modern and commonsense.

[@stevenhoppe9089]

Think you are incorrect about the reliability. A properly sorthed classic bike is every bit as reliable. You can quite easily add electronic ignition and other parts to make the electrics much better then the original bikes. Servicing cost are much cheeper as its pretty easy to do it yourself.

[@DJPTEXAS]

The brakes and suspension are probably the biggest improvements made since the 60-70's bikes....

[@oojimmyflip]

Electric start and automatics.

[@DJPTEXAS]

@@oojimmyflip I never really minded kick starters and the electric starts at the time were unreliable.. wish they left the kick starters though...

[@LiamE69]

Nah, its the rubber.

[@DJPTEXAS]

@@LiamE69 That too...

[@antonoat]

And tyres, the grip available today is massively better than the old virtually plastic tyres of old!

[@longtalljay]

All new ones look like CARTOONs from 50 year old sci-fi comics. Perfect for clowns.

[@jonathanmanhorn]

Classic looks are timeless in cars and bikes.

[@brattonbiker6482]

You can see why the modern retro bikes do well, e.g. Kawasaki z650. They look a lot like the 70's bikes but with modern bike reliability.

[@alienbiker5036]

I love bikes from all decades but i cut my teeth on a suzuki gt and i miss the smell and sound of two strokes of the 70s them things came alive when thrashed

[@rajaakashkumar7099]

That 2 stroke sound is music ❤

[@MotoTourIreland]

Its the retro Suzuki for me. Great video.

[@peterbennett4948]

The Suzuki having no pointless tech will be simpler to work on for the home mechanic, carbs rule 😊

[@BlakesPipes]

I take the old one all day long. I like modern day classics too. It's the reason I own a W800 cafe. Most wonderful bike I have ever owned

[@cedley1969]

I've got the 650, it's my forever bike, everything else is sat in the garage.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I've got the 2015 standard. I bought it as a "stop gap" as a returning rider, thinking that I'd "upgrade" as I got my skills back. Instead, I found my forever bike.

[@chrishart8548]

Amazing to thing you could ride a 250cc bike on L plates all the way up until February. 1983

[@michaelabernathy7013]

Interesting old vs new comparison. I agree with you both. Classic all the way! BTW, thank you, Darcy and Dad, for the fabulous summary video of your India trip! I commend you for all your hard work!

[@daverees9344]

Give me the GT185 any day.

[@1990-t1j]

It's a pity that you don't have the 155cc version we have in Thailand. It would be a more relevant comparison then, especially if you had the XSR model which looks really good. I always liked the look of the GT185 back in the '70s.

[@CZ350tuner]

You missed out the fact that 1970's bikes came with a toolkit, ranging from the comprehensive large quality toolkits of BMW, Jawa & CZ, to the minimalistic "toy" toolkits (with useless diecast flexible pliers) that were issued with Japanese bikes.

[@kpowers9017]

As someone who has owned both styles, a newer bike is better in every conceivable way if you're actually riding it. The only time older is better is on a nice sunny (short) ride when it's all working.

[@ramiretz]

classic bikes are timeless.....pretty yesterday pretty today pretty tomorrow..... they never get out.

[@peteraustin370]

Those earlier small capacity Japanese machines had brilliant manoeuvrability and a remarkable turn of speed for their size..!!!..My Honda CB250 K1...with 30BHP on tap was match for ANY British 500cc bike out on road..back in 68 to 70..!!...My Suzuki T500 mk2..After was a BIG step up from that..!!!!!!

[@MattsBrabus]

Quality on old bikes, you do realise one of the coffin nails in the British motorcycle industry was dire quality control.

[@schnuffelhase1968]

If I had to chose between this 2 bikes, I would always go for the Suzuki 🤩 I also like the old GS's 😊

[@tonymann8215]

An interesting comparison video. Most of the styling changes over the years is market led. Market demand is obsessed with bikes being lighter and cheaper. Manufacturers respond by changing metal component for cheaper, lighter plastic ones and highly finished chrome exhausts for poorly finished Matt black ones. If we refused to buy them they wouldn’t make them, (some of us do, that why Royal Enfield have done so well).

[@nonsononessunooko4066]

only things we really need is inject fuel,eletronic start( maybe kickstart works anyway), modern brakes and that it no nees to have 100 plus sensor and digital screen all over

[@o00scorpion00o]

Same with cars, all screens now even the instrument cluster, absolutely hate screens in cars and bikes.

[@nockianlifter661]

2 strokes were killed by regulations. All those wires are a result of multiple sensors and emission control equipment for regulation. Air cooling killed by regulations. Small exhausts killed by regulation. ABS - regulation.

[@ccooper8785]

So many of the modern bikes, like my NC750X, look terrible IMHO. But then again, I did start on an MZ125TS with its patented "ball-breaker" petrol tank so maybe things today are not too bad. One thing that has improved massively is fuel consumption, especially when talking about bikes like the NC750X.

[@cedley1969]

The only brand new vehicle I ever owned was a 1986 MZ ts125, it was superb, if a little primitive but it got me where I needed to be, the original tyres were terrifying though.

[@ccooper8785]

@@cedley1969 Yes, I was happy with mine. Brand new, cheap, got me through my tests and then sold for 2/3rds of initial cost. Definitely a better deal than the very expensive Jap 2nd hand bikes.

[@christopherpekel6096]

The NC750x is actually really good looking for a modern bike. It's proportionally nice for a tallish bike

[@flickthenick]

Once upon a time I had the Suzuki T250 which was an absolute blinder of a bike and possibly my favourite all time machine especially as this was ridden on L plates!

[@krengerlaurent4411]

This 185 Suzuki remains me the first lounched RE Interceptor 2019…sorry for my english✌️⛑️ watching you from the french part of Switzerland…i’m not a froggy🙈

[@coilstreeservice9398]

I lost my Rebel 500 in a horrible accident, my finger got caught in a wedding ring!🤦‍♂️ It was a great bike but to be honest it was just too modern for me and I’m kind of glad it’s gone because now so is Mrs Coil and I’m excited about soon replacing it (the bike that is)😂 But this time I’m going to get either a Royal Enfield or I’m going to find an old bike from the 70s, 80s or if I can get a great deal on an old Honda Magna I might go 90s? Would Love something like a 95 Magna! I know this, it definitely won’t have any riding modes and a bunch of but spanking ugly plastic on it. And the dash will be analog unlike that useless LCD one that was on the rebel. Haven’t commented in a while and just wanted to drop one and say hello and let you know I’m still loving y’all and your channel!💯❤️💪

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

@@coilstreeservice9398 sorry to hear about your accident but great to hear your plans to get a Royal Enfield or Classic bike 👍🏼

[@simondavies9315]

They both give the open air, powered motion experience which is so different from travelling in cars. Any bike, old or new, will give that on road thrill, thank goodness for that. For me the biggest change has been the tightened legislation which manufacturers have been forced to follow. And the licensing laws which have choked this congestion busting, pleasure giving, freedom granting, community enriching, fuel efficient mode of transport.

[@RYwoodview]

My previous 1982 Suzuki GS650G. Beautiful--maroon, classic styling, elec start, disc brakes, shaft drive, alloy wheels, Corbin seat. Gave it up for a 2023 KTM 390 Adventure, wonderful bike with startlingly sharp styling. Still wish I could have kept it.

[@antonoat]

My older brother bought a GT185 Suzuki new when he was in the RAF, we thought it was the fastest thing on planet Earth, lol. It looks tiny now.

[@rickiejacobs5910]

Got my motorcycle endorsement in 1973 and just the difference between early 70’s to mid 80’s show quite a bit of improvement in that time period. The 80’s bikes had improved ignition systems, brakes and handling made a big difference. Today’s bikes with fuel injection and computers improve performance and gas mileage but like the “soul” of the older bikes.

[@stevemartin9179]

i remember my mate who lived next door coming home with a bright blue Suzuki A100 in 74, it looked like something from the future, hooked ever since👍

[@CZ350tuner]

A friend had a 1979 GT185EX, which had cast wheels and electronic ignition. He also had a 1980 GT200 X5.

[@snickrologen]

I would suggest that the performance has improved i.e. power,suspension and brakes and so forth- but the feeling is still the same and the complexity differs of course! It’s still all about throwing the leg over and the sense of freedom riding with the elements affecting one physically! Great job guys!

[@chrispomphrett4283]

That modern thing is hideous and its existence will be forgotten in a couple of years.

[@QuebecGamer20]

Hi there! I'm a newer rider from across the pond. I will take the older one every time! Also, I'm stunned at how restrictive UK motorcycle laws are. Here, once your exam is complete, you can ride anything regardless of power, size, CCs, weight... There are heavy taxes on sport bikes at least

[@herrdirektor1969]

Very refreshing! 🎉

[@kwakithailand]

Great comparison VDO, lads 👍 I'm glad for Kawa launching their RS line, modern technology in a '70s dress, as well as plenty of power for today's penalties 💚

[@mohamedfauzibinmohamedjoha2328]

Why am I not surprised? Hahahaha, but you guys were on point. I won't mind paying more for a classic / modern classic bikes

[@stewy62]

When I was a lad the Suzuki GT range looked quite ordinary, but now they look like classics not least because of their simplicity. Darcy said it was the work of artists and whilst I don’t know who comprised the Suzuki Design Office at the time, it looks to me that practical Engineers still ruled the roost. By contrast, it looks like a lot more holistic design has gone into the aesthetics of virtually every part of the MT125 to create the “insect” look that they desired. It’s not my favourite look but some insect bikes don’t look too bad 🇬🇧

[@paulhowlett4953]

"Beaky little fangs", love that.

[@metalmick]

I had a new P reg 185 from Reads in Leytonstone back in the day. Lovely bike. Got 85 out of it!

[@dditch66]

Spot on review. since our license laws are different in the States I don’t think they sell that bike here. Hope to see you review a Yamaha XS65O one day with a modern Yamaha

[@61js]

Depends on which era you became obsessed. Me, the 70's. Modern bikes are unquestionably better in terms of quality and engineering, but ultimately do the same job, just in a different way. However, old bikes were more difficult to ride fast.

[@neilhartley2526]

I share some of the views that people have stated in the comments about the changes for better or worse on modern bikes. What I find particularly disappointing is that fuel consumption has gone backwards rather than forwards, with the odd exception. I've been riding for nearly 40 years.

[@TheDavedadd]

Iv'e always said and will continue to say back in the olden days people knew how to design stuff and not just motorcycles, but everything was decipherable unlike today with all the plastic fairings etc you cannot tell one bike from another. Safe Riding all.

[@CZ350tuner]

Well, both have an electric start (The Suzuki GT185 had a dyno starter).

[@crispinleslie]

You have scratched the surface of a very valid topic. I’m 63 - lifelong rider- I prefer the ergonomics of an adventure bike; I could now afford pretty much any one of the latest offerings- T7, Africa Twiin etc. However, I don’t like the fit and finish of the plastic fantastic rides nor do I want TFT screens or rider modes. My bike of preference now is an ‘06 Tiger 955i. All the engine I want (plus some more ) and sublime build quality from the analogue era. My gen 3 KLR is for sale- but if Honda or Triumph would make a similarly simple bike to a decent standard of fit and finish- I would invest.

[@philcowdall9399]

Nice vid. One thing I absolutely hate about bikes like the modern Yamaha styled with a seat like that and such an angled tank, is that when you ride in rain, the rain runs off directly into your crotch and you cannot shift back on the seat to avoid the run off! One of the many reasons I bought a Mutt for my first bike instead. Phil, North Wales.

[@steve00alt70]

My chinese Zontes bike looks futuristic with the insect look. It has a rear mudguard with the indicators on the rear wheel, yet the back of my helmet is always dirty. I prefer the dirt bike, naked look.

[@SteveInskip]

Tyres, suspension, brakes, reliability, clutches, materials and finish are way better now than in the 70’s. Those machines were great but quite rough compared to modern bikes.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

I got into motorbiking big time at 60yo after only occasional riding them for the previous 40+ years, mainly coz i was a cyclist. I havent ridden that many different ones, but it doesn't matter to me what i ride, coz i just love riding them, but given a choice i'd go for a modern one evertime, coz i don't have any nostalgia for old models, and reliability is a priority, so i chose honda's, and have a 125 & 750, however of the two examples here, i'd go for the older one, as i just wouldnt ride a bike with coloured wheels - too 'playstation generation' for me, and when i called into a dealer with the wife to look at a bike that had 'em, she told me to 'grow up' and 'act my age' when i straddled one lol, but hey, each to her own, i won't judge !!- thanks for the vid.

[@davidnunnerley9084]

Thank goodness I took my test in the 70s on my 250 Honda super dream. So much easier and much cheaper and now, as an OAP I can hop on my Street Triple and enjoy a ride out. I was born at the right time, where as youngsters now have to go through hoops if they want to ride big bikes.

[@rsqyoung]

If looks come in to it, I didnt like the Suzuki in its day. But by many of today's bikes standards, is a stunning beauty.

[@owenjones506]

I have a 1979 Yamaha XS 650 import, special, it might be under powered but it is reliable and looks a lot better than the plastic bikes you see to day, what i really like about it is it has a kick start as well as electric start as well as a center stand all that seem to be missing on modern bikes, i have always rode 4 stokes and although they were not as fast as the 2 stroke at the time they were a lot more reliable , just the electrics were alway's a bit dodgy .

[@MotoDude1967]

I like this comparison! Best of both worlds: Kawasaki 900RS...old school looks and gauges, modern tech and reliability.

[@Book-bz8ns]

Motorbikes are like horses to me. Get the breed that suits you. After that, it's you horse. Just keep him fed and shod, clean and happy.

[@loddude5706]

In part, I feel the young of today have no 'peers' to follow. As a boy, I & many like me, wanted what our fathers & uncles rode, or at least the ones they too lusted after. A late '60s 650 Bonneville was the King, this snarling granny frightener was not for the inexperienced. General view was you needed to learn on Bantams or Cubs & pass your half-hour test, then onto a 350 until you got more used to the weight, a couple of 500s over a couple of summers & you were ready to try the King . . . But no one in their right mind would let a 19yr old madhead like you anywhere near one - 'Too big for you, you'll never pick it up, come back when you're bigger', etc. Those Bonnies were roughly the same size, weight & power output of today's RE 650 Interceptors . . . & that's NOW seen as a nice A2 compatible learning tool for relative 'newbies' . . . Different days man. : )

[@veritasvincit2745]

Modern bikes obviously perform better in almost every practical respect but in terms of an experience, the development clock could have happily stopped in 1989 for me. RG125, TZR/TDR250, 350F2, CBR600, XT600, GSX-R 750, 1000EXUP and so on and so forth.

[@CZ350tuner]

All 1970's Suzuki bikes came with a label on the fork leg, next to the disc brake, stating: "WARNING!! Braking may be severely impaired during wet weather conditions". My Canadian import GT550A was even more honest, stating: "WARNING!! Brakes DO NOT work in wet weather conditions".

[@andyleeson6048]

Terrible speedo accuracy is a “classic” feature

[@markgreenhow7953]

I always find it amazing that the BHP to engine capacity was never really surpassed by what the Japanese were building 50 years ago.

[@bulletboy4288]

It's about product architecture, a 2979 Honda Cb100 looked like the CB500, the 750 and the CB1000, the attention to detail on the 100cc machine was as good as the bigger bikes, once you passed the test you traded up, hopefully to something familiar, that new 125 looks like, the rest of the range.

[@peterlobb6456]

Check out the specs (Power, weight etc) of the latest Triumph Speed 400 and a 1970s RD400. No wonder Kawasaki are bringing back 2 strokes, they rock!!!

[@andrewdyson4255]

The original bikes were made to do a job, eg proper front mudguards, lower rear end providing more cover from grime etc. The new ones now are a design exercise probably designed by folk who don’t even ride. Yes the modern brakes, suspension and in some cases engine are improved but the overall general machines are not as good. Just look how many riders have fender extenders fitted to keep the crud down. The manufacturers should look at that. Only Enfield and BSA seem to realise this, keeping them from the traditional models. At 65 I think I probably had the best years of motorcycle riding. Those old disc and drum brake combos were scary but made you a better rider as you had to think far more ahead.

[@G3A3]

i like the old look and the new look. it's a bike by bike decision, and the yamaha looks good😉

[@Rick-ve5lx]

My son’s cb125r has a vestigial rear mudguard.

[@thetreadtrader7565]

The styling of modern bikes is what the manufacturers think it’s what we want, did they ask?

[@girlinagale]

I rode a Kawasaki er6n for a few months. Lovely light handling, grunty note on acceleration, swift. But in the end boring. I preferred my BMW R65 with it's analogue dials and tendency of one carburettor to pee out petrol onto the hot exhaust, until you flicked off the retaining clip to remove the bowl and fiddled with the float. So engaging :-)

[@LiamE69]

I think they need to do away the the cc restriction for learner bikes and have it based on power alone. A mildly restricted RE Classic 350 is much better value than the over priced 125 offerings, and once derestricted after you pass your test it would be a great bike for a few years... or even for good. Far better than buying a 125 and then another bike straight away. Also passing an A1 or A2 test should allow you to ride the class up with L plates. That alone would make the licensing much more affordable as you wouldn't have to hire a bike for the test or pay by the hour to practice.

[@Tom_FLHCS]

Nice video! I'm a bit torn. No contest in looks for me as I'm a big fan of classic bikes. Also a fan of classic bike build quality. I think we sometimes gloss over just how poorly some very modern bikes are made compared to the older ones. My Dad has two (modern classic) bikes in the garage from the same manufacturer. One is from the earlier 2000's, the other a 2018. The 2018 looks like it's been dragged through a salty swamp, the older one looks immaculate. I've had a number of Harleys over the years, currently a 23 Heritage, and whilst I love the bikes, the finish quality just doesn't compare. I had a 94 and a '04, which I'd literally leave out in the snow, and a quick hose down and it was gleaming. My '23 hasn't held up anywhere near as good despite being almost new! However! As sacrilegious as it might be to say, I do think we get some very useful technology as a tradeoff. I think I'd struggle to ride a big-twin Harley without ABS these days. It's saved me a few times and yes you have to factor it into how you ride but it's nice knowing that on a heavy bike on greasy roads, you've at least got some level of protection against the wheels locking up.

[@IanSixbikes-by6ei]

No contest , if I was spending my own money on a small capacity bike it would be the Suzuki GT185 every time, if you are up to featuring some other classic small capacity 2 Strokes on your channel how about a couple of classic trail bikes like Kawasaki 's KE 175 or Suzuki's TS185 or Yamaha's DT175 , all of them will put a smile on your face 😊

[@terrycavender]

It costs how much for a license? And you wonder why motorcycle dealerships are going out of business. 🙄 I was shocked by the price of the Yamaha at five thousand, but it costing that much for a license? Unbelievable!

[@billsulacor369]

my best bikes were the Suzuki GT 500 (1976) and the Yamaha XJ650 SECA (1981) .... both extremely reliable, comfortable and indestructible and they also look so much more real than the 21st century toys

[@DavidBradshaw-e3x]

How can you conpire the two two different bikes ?

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Very easily 👍🏼

[@GarrethSutton]

I'd never have guessed the way this one was going to go 🙃

[@AdamForeman]

It's not just the aesthetics of retro vs modern, today's engines are significantly more efficient, quieter due to new designs, exhausts and emissions etc. Nobody wants bruised legs thanks to kick starters, the mucking around with 2 stroke oil measuring etc. New bikers just want to press start, add petrol and go. Plus older bikes didn't have a petrol gauge. You looked inside and swoshed the bike back and forth to hear how much it had. When I was young, I wanted a bike to look like Wayne Rainey, or Rocket Ron Haslam etc. However, now as I'm in my 50's, Retro and cafe racers have become more attractive to me. Triumph's new Bobber or Thruxton look amazing. BMW's R12, R18 and the new R20 concept look amazing too. So bike manufacturers are making bikes that look like they're bigger than they are. People want a MT07, MT09 or 10. So the best they can buy is the 125cc equivalent

[@marinusk67]

I like like to ride my 1995 cbr 900 rr , the clutch is heavy , the brakes are a lot more than 2 fingers , the gearbox is clunky and you feel the engine fibrating That's what's riding all about . Feeling alive

[@chrsfrwll]

First bike was a 250cc Suzuki X7 that I rode on L plates before doing my test (twice round the block, with the examiner stepping out in front of me on one lap to show I could do an emergency stop). Much prefer the old school look of bikes. Can't be doing with all the plastic and angles of modern bikes.

[@fredric-h1d]

Right side 🏍️ 👌🏿 dude

[@o00scorpion00o]

Check out the new Kawasaki W230, gorgeous bike, pity they can't make a 500 cc version ! I'd nearly sell the Deauville to buy one, it's got class and character and I love the analogue clocks, this is something Royal Enfield just can't get right !

[@UncleJunior83]

I don't like tiny mudguards. I prefer parts that are both beautiful and fully functional. Like the mudguard on the Royal Enfield Classic 350.

[@steveworth544]

the old Suzuki looks designed- the new bike looks thrown together with any old bits- no cohesion.

[@stevefleming4450]

Sorry, new style bike... not for me. I'll keep my Interceptor 650. New bike reliability with old school looks.

[@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555]

Did anybody ever covet something made of plastic? There is zero charm in that new bike, nothing to polish, no patina to be acquired it's a creased blob of nothingness. The old bike you've no choice but to look after it, it's metal front to bike, oodles of charm & a bike an owner would bond with. No wonder RE are selling well...

[@acidskullchinmoydas1607]

Still 2 strokes is love ❤❤❤

[@michaeldenherder3440]

Looking at these two bikes I clearly see an evolutionary pattern. But I really hope we don't evolve into transformers

[@FightFilms]

The Suzuki is much easier to modify and you could probably get close to 35HP without decreasing reliability.

[@mar0364]

The new one is horrible. Says guy that drives a Bonneville.

[@PhilBurns-oc2vg]

New bikes have no character and all the rider aids take a lot of skill out of riding

[@gzk6nk]

The modern bike looks like an insect, the older bike sounds like one!

[@karoussosaristomenes593]

Sorry gentlemen, you got it all wrong. One is a robot and the other is a dream machine.

[@ben-PT2000]

Maybe you should have compared the Suzuki to a Yamaha XSR 125 instead. Makes more sense as far as style.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

@@ben-PT2000 unfortunately the dealership did not have a Yamaha XSR 125 👍🏼

[@markgreenhow7953]

The old 2 strokes sound lovely with the original exhausts, I think the sound was spoiled by the expansion chambers people used to put on. Those little four strokes sound terrible and even worse with noisy pipes.

[@Kaybe-i6f]

I have been riding over 40 years and still addicted but I really don’t like modern bikes. Older bikes are beautiful and a joy to ride. Modern bikes for me are reliable, refined and a bit boring. Proper Japanese bikes of old were reliable, the roads don’t allow a spirited riding session anymore so no thrashing to within an inch of going pop. Ooooooh my X7 days I dearly miss.

[@timboharty7325]

The modern Yamaha , looks like a wasp , it needs twatting with a shovel ! Old Skool Suzuki all day long , the GT185 is one bike I regret selling