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Kidology

Kidology

Күн бұрын

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@sentorus67
@sentorus67 Жыл бұрын
Man, MrGirl was trying way too hard on deciding what you think. You are one of the most genuine person I've seen when it comes to these conversations, and for him to say your the gaslighter is irritating to say the least.
@slapitonabiscuit8482
@slapitonabiscuit8482 Жыл бұрын
Is there a person he hasn't said is a gaslighter?
@ExtropianKnight
@ExtropianKnight Жыл бұрын
If you've seen one Mr.Girl conversation you've seen them all. I guess this is his "performance art" and it's like watching a stand-up comic repeat the same set over and over again.
@resir9807
@resir9807 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If you're not being accused of abuse by Mr Girl, you're probably doing something wrong
@ungabungacaveman9021
@ungabungacaveman9021 Жыл бұрын
To be fair the first part was pretty annoying. She knew what he was pointing out and instead of biting the bullet and asking the question in another way she just let the convo get super meta.
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate Жыл бұрын
​@@ExtropianKnight even when MrGirl was in Destiny's orbit everyone agreed his talks/streams were the worst parts of his content. He hyper fixates on meta conversations to a HAIRPULLING degree and he cannot for the life of himself be moved off of positions, he can't be nuanced at all. Max's music is funny and well done, and his video essays and documentaries were also really well done... But RIP I guess
@darkarokay8921
@darkarokay8921 Жыл бұрын
Wow, as he continues to not get his way he gets increasing vindictive and started retaliating, trying to hurt your feelings. So he controls narrative, retaliates when even slightly offended, becomes very aggressive and burns bridges and attacks your credibility to his community. He does everything he said is abusive...How does he not see it?
@Mrraerae
@Mrraerae Жыл бұрын
He's projecting, that's why
@Millennialaire
@Millennialaire Жыл бұрын
He really is the embodiment of a complete narcissist that can't see they are exactly what they whine about.
@DaniDaWolf
@DaniDaWolf Жыл бұрын
Because the article is more about himself and not about destiny. Some of the things he tells are things he ascribes to destiny if he was in his position. He keeps proving again and again that if you do not share the same view as him you are free season to be attacked with full force. Just how he thinks destiny operates in the world.
@thesovgc
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
Same shit, different interview.
@frizzman1991
@frizzman1991 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club, we are all very confused by this man.
@shaun5047
@shaun5047 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is Mr Girl thinks the more interviews he does the more he hurts Destiny. When in reality all of the interviews just make Mr Girl come off as creepy and malicious.
@thijsjong
@thijsjong Жыл бұрын
He is projecting on the world what he is himself. It is sad and I feel complicit when I feel I am entertained by a slow motion trainwreck. He derives his identity from the me against the the world achetype.
@GiltleyRage
@GiltleyRage Жыл бұрын
Look at the bright side it makes Chud Logic earn more money xD
@tiromandal6399
@tiromandal6399 Жыл бұрын
@@GiltleyRage LMAO!
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate Жыл бұрын
​​@@GiltleyRage Based, getting backstabbed by your friend has gotta hurt, being able to rack in money off of the whole situation is probably the literal sweetest and most ethical form of revenge possible.
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae Жыл бұрын
Max always sounds like he is talking about himself. “People can’t handle what I think about them.” While he’s freaking out about what they think about him.
@savagerockman
@savagerockman Жыл бұрын
Why are Mr Girl and F.D. so fixated on who Kid should and shouldn't talk to?
@Mrraerae
@Mrraerae Жыл бұрын
It honestly feels like some sort of weird implicit sexist infantilizing. "An attractive young woman? I gotta tell her what to do so she doesn't get taken advantage of"
@savagerockman
@savagerockman Жыл бұрын
@@Mrraerae Definitely comes off that way.
@KingOsmium
@KingOsmium Жыл бұрын
Because both of them are supremely arrogant and put far too much importance in their own judgement. Although I will say, unlike F.D, Mr.Girl comes off as genuinely insane. Every time I witness him speak, he just seems pathological.
@savagerockman
@savagerockman Жыл бұрын
@@KingOsmium Yeah, he seems to be unraveling in real time.
@99sins
@99sins Жыл бұрын
@@KingOsmium F.D comes off like he drank too much of the koolaid, Mr. Girl comes off like he is the koolaid
@trollingisasport
@trollingisasport Жыл бұрын
Denying how someone thinks and telling them what they really are thinking is literally the definition of gaslighting. But maybe we should call it Maxlighting.
@EyeOfTheTiger777
@EyeOfTheTiger777 Жыл бұрын
Mistergirling
@MyEyesAreOnFire
@MyEyesAreOnFire Жыл бұрын
I've been saying since I first was introduced to him that he is a cult leader in Training
@selina2053
@selina2053 Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but here's my 2c anyway, gaslighting is not a one time thing. It's a repeated pattern over time.
@MyEyesAreOnFire
@MyEyesAreOnFire Жыл бұрын
@Selina you should watch almost any of this his interviews from the past 1yr+ It is a repeating pattern
@trollingisasport
@trollingisasport Жыл бұрын
@@selina2053 True. Doing it one time is not necessarily gaslighting. It's a patterned behavior.
@jscul
@jscul Жыл бұрын
Starts at 1:48:19
@RobReith
@RobReith Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@Christina-yk7zz
@Christina-yk7zz Жыл бұрын
Ty!!
@Hannibal082
@Hannibal082 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me!?!
@Rig0r_M0rtis
@Rig0r_M0rtis Жыл бұрын
That's where the fun ends
@macrou
@macrou Жыл бұрын
Just the comment I was looking for!
@RavencrowProductions
@RavencrowProductions Жыл бұрын
Really? Mrgirl thinks a journalist or a podcaster is going to read a 100,000 word document rather than watch a film about it? No one is reading this except people that know destiny.. and barely any of them are doing it either. It's way too long.
@MithosDagon
@MithosDagon Жыл бұрын
He also thinks parents will read it 😂😂😂
@hallo-mt5tx
@hallo-mt5tx Жыл бұрын
a film may be perceived to be more artistic or subjective, him transcribing everything in a dry way may seem more unbiased at a first glance, thats why he did it i think he essentially relies on "trust me bro", he banks on credible journalists just blindly trusting him, which is delusion of the highest order
@EyeOfTheTiger777
@EyeOfTheTiger777 Жыл бұрын
Mind you even that "document" is piss poorly written, omits all helpful context, and is extremely biased (omits the good things Destiny did for him and others etc.).
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
Especially given that it reads like a crazy scorned girlfriend wrote it
@scanneringdark4793
@scanneringdark4793 Жыл бұрын
Max more than likely truly does believe people rather read a document than watch a film because the document is written by him
@vikkipink1288
@vikkipink1288 Жыл бұрын
I’m absolutely loving kidology’s makeup. She’s so beautiful 💜
@henryclamore4791
@henryclamore4791 Жыл бұрын
Yet she claims to be an incel.
@tamarapowell8982
@tamarapowell8982 Жыл бұрын
@@henryclamore4791not that she isn’t or is but not all incels are ugly
@WhiteRhino.
@WhiteRhino. Жыл бұрын
The moment Max says for her to not converse with Destiny and reject "kindly" while staring into the Camera like a psychopath. Yep, perfectly normal.
@TheEccentricPoet
@TheEccentricPoet Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Situation normal, all fucked up. Definitely a SNAFU.
@parolzaaz5085
@parolzaaz5085 Жыл бұрын
Max seemed to be trying to come off as less unhinged in this convo but you felt it throughout this convo. Definitely weird.
@PureGrit2
@PureGrit2 Жыл бұрын
Kidology, I would love to do a review on this interview with your blessings. It’s very interesting and important to talk about the dynamics of the conversation besides what the conversation is actually about.
@KidologyCO
@KidologyCO Жыл бұрын
Blessings given🤗.
@Nettamorphosis
@Nettamorphosis Жыл бұрын
Will this be on your channel? I’m interested in watching from an outside perspective. I wonder if you see what I see.
@philrussell5258
@philrussell5258 Жыл бұрын
This was utterly fascinating
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
Max is the king of switching to a meta-relitigation right in the middle of a conversation. He so readily goes from conversation -> meta-conversation -> relitigation -> meta-relitigation. Like within 5 mins of talking with Whick he's arguing about the first few questions Whick had and how it's manipulative.
@wintergirll
@wintergirll Жыл бұрын
I would be very interested in this
@BarBea83722
@BarBea83722 Жыл бұрын
2:12:57 messaging you in November not to speak to destiny speaks to interfering with future business relationships on destiny’s part, and trying to white knight on your part. Max is the last person I would ever allow to defend, or save me. I’d rather face a Cardassian tribunal.
@totorosdad7965
@totorosdad7965 Жыл бұрын
He just wants to protect women he’s so noble 🥹🥹🥹
@EyeOfTheTiger777
@EyeOfTheTiger777 Жыл бұрын
And he spent ten minutes trying to blame her for "not knowing why he messaged her that" even though his explanation for that in his article came MONTHS after he messaged her? So how was she supposed to know why he said what he said in his message? He hadn't explained himself yet at that time. But despite that, he made several attempts to blame her for it.
@Avengerie
@Avengerie Жыл бұрын
@@EyeOfTheTiger777his point is she was asking “why did you tell me not to talk to Destiny” after she read the report. So even if she doesn’t believe he proved his case, the question is moot.
@trololkhil9868
@trololkhil9868 Жыл бұрын
​@@Avengerie it was a valid question. The question is: "you were very sure about your confirmation of him being a sociopath and hurting people when your own report doesn't actually bear that out, so how can you still claim that?". The issue here is he said this about destiny 4-5 months before he finished obtaining/interpreting the evidence so i am pretty sure she wants him to aknowledge that the only reason he warned her was because he felt hurt not because he did an investigation that confirmed that destiny is an abuser. I think she wouldn't have had a problem if the dm was like "hey i recently got hurt by destiny, i am currently investigating destiny's general behaviour trends and before i publish this i wanted to let you know that he may also hurt you if you keep interacting with him based on my experience/understanding of him. Not telling you who to not engage with but just to be careful around him". Whereas his dm was sent with the express intent of discrediting destiny rather than showing genuine concern for her...
@Dumppump
@Dumppump Жыл бұрын
I just finished another watch through of DS9. This made me chuckle.
@totorosdad7965
@totorosdad7965 Жыл бұрын
It’s honestly hard to fathom how consistently obsessed this man has been with destiny for 5 whole months
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate Жыл бұрын
Honestly true. I can even understand men stalking women for years on end(not okay boys), because that has some tangible reality to it, even if it's delusional. This is PURE delusion and projection.
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
Max repeatedly says "I took the money and I regret it," but now I'm realizing he seemed to really get upset and start this whole thing when Destiny didn't coddle his emotions and essentially promise him a resistance-free future in Destiny's orbit. He got banned from the subreddit and was like "I'm gonna write a manifesto on you." So honestly it seems like Max did this because he _lost_ the money.
@lexqqy4032
@lexqqy4032 Жыл бұрын
The silent stare downs were some of my favorite parts, lol
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
MrGirl is very manipulative. He disapproves of you at first, then says he's been very fond of you in the past, and then ends by saying that if you accept that Destiny is an abuser, we can go back to our old situation. And there many of these situations in the interview. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a pattern. But I can't say more without a real ethical investigation into MrGirl's interviews.
@Hangetsuu
@Hangetsuu Жыл бұрын
What makes this even clearer is her quite different impression of their relationship, and then for him to engage more with his assumptions and expectations of her than anything she actually said. Other interviews of this I've seen lately have had much the same gameplan, and results.
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
@@Hangetsuu You are right. What I am interested in is whether he is playing or whether he has real communication issues. Nobody can read minds. A misunderstanding like here happens all the time, but normal would ask clarifying questions instead of ranting.
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 Жыл бұрын
love that max runs with the narrative that destiny is some kind of cult leader when he's the one constantly telling people who they shouldn't interact with, wonder how his article's headline victim lav/daughter is doing
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
He's literally just jealous Destiny is a better cult leader than him, and wouldn't let him be co-leaders.
@UnDefinedLegacy
@UnDefinedLegacy Жыл бұрын
Well to be honest Destiny hasn’t been the best at stopping witch hunts when people are under scrutiny. There was one person I’m blanking on their name that was accused of sexual assault Destiny touch the subject in favor of believing the victim then the allegations were proven false and he never did a retraction of sorts. So his fans continued to harass that person. That’s the only thing I can think of that Destiny could do better about.
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
@MoonPalm I'm curious about the example, can you remember anything about the person?
@UnDefinedLegacy
@UnDefinedLegacy Жыл бұрын
@@Jrez bob7 there we go. Basically a game of telephone and just to be honest being toxic and then when stuff came to light Destiny just never touched it again. Not even like halfhearted “apology” or whatever. It was old drama. EDIT: saw a video outlining it better and Destiny was more toxic than I thought initially. Basically a well meaning person who had some social gaffes told his open relationship girlfriend that either she left him or Destiny had to change some things in order their relationship to get better and not feed into her insecurities or some such along those lines and decided to start vicious rumors that got out of hand and he never went back to tamp them down. Overall situation was cringe and personal but that right there was pretty bad and maybe worse than my first understanding of the drama from a few years back.
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
@@UnDefinedLegacy Did you read Destiny's bob7 manifesto? Is that really what you got out of that?
@past-hb2iu
@past-hb2iu Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I discovered Kid last night through the Max interview. Already a fan. Kid, you are wonderful!!!
@vautry
@vautry Жыл бұрын
I think all signs point that Max doesn't really want to have a convo about the article. Every single one has devolved into meta conversations, or him refusing to answer the majority of questions.
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
I guess people who are manipulative don't think people have their own agency. It makes sense, because they are able to manipulate people.
@SpitFireDebates
@SpitFireDebates Жыл бұрын
VERY well handled! Great discussion with someone who was determined to make this conversation difficult.
@RyanPhoenixAZ
@RyanPhoenixAZ Жыл бұрын
They are both very good at the awkward pauses 🤣🤣
@Just_a_turtle_chad
@Just_a_turtle_chad Жыл бұрын
MrGirl will be remembered for being the guy who defended cuties. That's it
@nicematerial
@nicematerial Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm mrgirl... Oh you mean the Cuties guy?
@yagirltones8748
@yagirltones8748 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched cuties?
@MrGiftedgaber
@MrGiftedgaber Жыл бұрын
​@@yagirltones8748 have you ever dusted that brown shit off ya nose?
@theastonvillaseal585
@theastonvillaseal585 Жыл бұрын
And he got you railed
@ToxicHAL
@ToxicHAL Жыл бұрын
@@yagirltones8748 sneako is that you?
@conot4006
@conot4006 Жыл бұрын
Can someone please ask Max for his definition of abuse before starting the interview. I feel he keeps using this broad definition of abuse to dance around the conversation and not answer questions.
@Hanabis924
@Hanabis924 Жыл бұрын
Everything that hurts his feelings is "abuse"
@estherbjerga523
@estherbjerga523 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he just lumps ethically questionable behavior as abuse.
@alephmale3171
@alephmale3171 Жыл бұрын
1:48:35 Skip here to when they’re done fixing the call.
@ramohnfisher3654
@ramohnfisher3654 Жыл бұрын
You are a true hero
@thesnurd9935
@thesnurd9935 Жыл бұрын
The first two hours of this was soooo brutal
@dylanbren1307
@dylanbren1307 Жыл бұрын
more like the whole thing
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Kidology must have credentials in the area. She is the first interviewer who realized that these issues are the result of messy public relationships. That these problems are normal.
@dapperboi1828
@dapperboi1828 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say these problems are normal. I would say destiny is shitty but it’s not a power differential thing like Mr girl says.
@henroids_
@henroids_ Жыл бұрын
Max was soooooooooooo concerned about preventing Kidology from becoming hurt by the ensuing conversation that he then had the conversation for two hours.
@hartyewh1
@hartyewh1 Жыл бұрын
Max is used to be an unstoppable force in his own mind. Now he hit a rock that didn't budge at all and he can't handle it. He's doing what he can to make it move, but it's far too weak. Max compares Steven to his father who was the same and wouldn't budge. This is a personal existential crisis for him.
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
She isn't qualified but he is. There are so many contradictory statements. Let's be honest, this is all because MrGirl got banned for one day from Destiny's subreddit. Bigger and more abusive people have gone after MrGirl but he didn't make a report about them, he made a report about the guy who was the only one who gave him a chance.
@dbjdi
@dbjdi Жыл бұрын
It's funny that she does the same pause thing that he does and you can see him get uncomfortable
@isaiah1065
@isaiah1065 Жыл бұрын
Max “ I don’t think he’s a sociopath, i think he’s sociopathic “. also Max in the same conversation “I think he’s a sociopath”
@blackedmirror5073
@blackedmirror5073 Жыл бұрын
Kid seems so free and relaxed lately.
@darkarokay8921
@darkarokay8921 Жыл бұрын
"YOURE SPEAKING TO THE MASSIVE DESTINY AUDIENCE WATCHING". Yet he was the one who made sure to tell you that Destiny and his audience was watching. He cant understand everything that pushes against him seems to have such a convenient and easy out to escape any pushback on his obsessive narrative. For someone who criticizes Destiny for chokeholding a narrative he seems hellbent on not allowing anyone to even breathe on his.
@amiborabee
@amiborabee Жыл бұрын
As for Cuties... I can see where most people are coming from on both sides, and I think there's some gray area. People often critique that 'the filmmakers themselves were engaging in what they're trying to denounce'. But what concerns me the most is the actresses: they agreed to make this movie and being filmed in this way (we all seem to agree the camera sexualized them, even if we disagree about the reason). They agreed to have their bodies filmed in a manner that is always going to remain on the internet space; p3d0s could always watch it, people could bring it up later in their lives, etc... What if they regret it, for whatever reason, when they're 18? They can't take it back, can they? That's the whole point about p3d0philia; children cannot consent. And those kids are real people, who are going to have to live with something they agreed to when they were children. That is not okay..
@smallpaperboats
@smallpaperboats Жыл бұрын
just fyi, mrgirl also has this criticism of the film - that the particular use of child actors was unethical.
@Ellie-bj2uw
@Ellie-bj2uw Жыл бұрын
their parents were likely the ones to agree with it.
@amiborabee
@amiborabee Жыл бұрын
@@Ellie-bj2uw obviously, parents should not be allowed to make such decisions for the children. the same way a parent can't just give an old man man permission to groom their kid.
@estherbjerga523
@estherbjerga523 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they could’ve easily just hired adult actresses, they didn’t need to use actual children to make a movie about how children become sexual Ed.
@hoopmooy3543
@hoopmooy3543 Жыл бұрын
I'm a former viewer of his, and MrGirl is probably the only streamer I see as an actively bad person, as in he is specifically doing things that help make the world a worse place. I guess another way of saying this is that he's on a spectrum of evil. There have been a lot of flawed streamers I don't like, but most of the negativity I feel toward them can be attributed toward run of the mill selfishness or ignorance. MrGirl is definitely different; he says and does everything with a plan to change who he is talking to and the world so it will better fit his ideals. He never considers being wrong or causing harm, as he diagnoses every problem and prescribes every solution from a foundation of logic only capable of good. As amusing as he is, especially when failing, I'm now sure he is a dangerous person to be close to.
@Sirwastealot
@Sirwastealot Жыл бұрын
Lav?
@natediaz1863
@natediaz1863 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't everyone think like this? I would assume that as you go up the intelligence ladder people would deepen in this as well. Most people have shallow ideals and so they don't need to change much around them and may not need to change them at all. As long as you have standard beliefs you'll get along with standard people. However, on the deeper end of intelligence those ideals become more defined and you want more out of those around you. I think Mr.Girls real problem is that he doesn't understand that some people just aren't capable of ever being on his level, which is something Destiny does seem to understand.
@JeremyJenner
@JeremyJenner Жыл бұрын
I remember enjoying your convo together on Odysee a while back. I'm no MrGirl fan but I love how you're consistently able to have these interviews with topical figures, your star is fast rising!
@baflabies
@baflabies Жыл бұрын
Holy he is so draining! I cant belive she got trough that. Hope you are okay.
@GiltleyRage
@GiltleyRage Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone can talk to this guy for 15 minutes and believe he's a completely sane person.
@MyEyesAreOnFire
@MyEyesAreOnFire Жыл бұрын
Welcome to talking to Max, where he not only tells you his side, but also tells you what you think and if you don't agree with what he says you think then you are wrong. Max is a cult leader in training
@701kimmie
@701kimmie Жыл бұрын
This guy seemed really fragile. Glad that Kid took it easy on him and didn't respond to his 5th grade tactics to bait her. I was waiting for him to start sobbing and say "I know I am, but what are you...."
@tomson11
@tomson11 Жыл бұрын
2:52:31 Everything else aside, if you find yourself saying that no one on Earth is qualified to say that Destiny is abusive, that's a sign to pause and reflect.
@0_oblivion_02
@0_oblivion_02 Жыл бұрын
There might be some that could, if they interacted with destiny 24/7 and analyzed his behaviour wth their peers. I don't think they would come to the conclusion of MrGirl though.
@v4vindication622
@v4vindication622 Жыл бұрын
@@0_oblivion_02 that’s such an insane standard to make
@TheTheDontae
@TheTheDontae Жыл бұрын
Damn, can you imagine if she actually mentioned Lauv, Mr. Girl would I had a full-blown meltdown
@autolicious
@autolicious Жыл бұрын
If, according to Max, you can't consent if you don't fully understand what you are getting into, then doesn't it stand to reason that virgins could never consent to sex?...using Max's definition.
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard Жыл бұрын
I've never watched your stuff before but this conversation was like watching a child who thinks they're the smartest person in the world interact with a wise sage who just lets them dig themselves deeper and deeper into a hole. In case you see this, genuinely commend your patience in dealing with that weirdo.
@tedfells
@tedfells Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty convinced Max is doing a kind of Andy Kauffman type performance art piece with the Mr. Girl character.
@THEE_Kisywisy
@THEE_Kisywisy Жыл бұрын
This was good. Never heard of Kidology before (I’m not into the destiny lore)
@trianglesandsquares420
@trianglesandsquares420 Жыл бұрын
Kidology, I love the companionship your awkward OBS-notOBS-technology-lost self offers, never stop; I feel like I just witnessed ground control advising a pilot how to land in a stressful situation, and I couldn't be more relieved when it worked out.
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae Жыл бұрын
I love how he talks so slow, so it doesn’t seem like he’s having a crazy rant.
@cirizarry5433
@cirizarry5433 Жыл бұрын
Not Mr. Girl asking Kid if she understands how he views Destiny for the 15th time before she starts to feel stupid and embarrased so he can scoop her up after and show her "a whole new world"🌈🎶🎶. It's getting very difficult to listen to Mr. Girl lately I think the best part for me was when he said she has an "extreme guardedness and extreme vulnerability".
@eskmiliothunderbunny21
@eskmiliothunderbunny21 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when Max gets silent and stares at her. He looks so deranged that I can't stop laughing. 😢😅😂😂😂
@leehalloway8787
@leehalloway8787 Жыл бұрын
I love how Kid is so comfortable letting him sit there in silence. I've seen other people feel uncomfortable and change the subject.
@PrincePetti
@PrincePetti Жыл бұрын
That was... Different
@MF-pk2gf
@MF-pk2gf Жыл бұрын
Especially the end when he got up close to the camera.
@EyeOfTheTiger777
@EyeOfTheTiger777 Жыл бұрын
​@@MF-pk2gf The DRAMA 🎭
@akyra231
@akyra231 Жыл бұрын
It never gets boring to see a man who is so fundamentally incapable of understanding other people be completely convinced that they can see through everybody. EDIT: the way he goes from "attack attack attack" to "I understand you more than you yourself ever will" to soft voice "I will protect you from all evil if only you trust me" is so unsettling. For someone who hates manipulative people, he's sure got some manipulative mannerisms going on.
@marcorubboli9415
@marcorubboli9415 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@conot4006
@conot4006 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would ask Max if Destiny was truly abusive wouldn't it be easy to still highlight it even in a bad faith interview? If someone was interviewing the journalist that wrote the Harvey Weinstein piece in bad faith I think it would be easily call out by bringing up the grape victims. The reason these interviews are hard is because Max doesn't offer a real examples of abuse that isn't from 12 years ago and none of the abuse victims agree with his story.
@brothercaptainxuul784
@brothercaptainxuul784 Жыл бұрын
Lmao. Max is soooo condescending. He truly drinks his own savior coolaid. How can a man be this fragile to criticisms and reddit meanies!
@gregutz4284
@gregutz4284 Жыл бұрын
"I'm just trying to protect you" was so creepy and gross
@Takobella
@Takobella Жыл бұрын
100% He infantilizes grown women
@dbjdi
@dbjdi Жыл бұрын
Interview starts at 1:48:00 Aaaaaaaand she broke him at 1:51:30 hahahahaha
@ambersummer2685
@ambersummer2685 Жыл бұрын
He makes a lot of strong predictions…..very strong predictions.
@Peanutcoladaa
@Peanutcoladaa Жыл бұрын
I think he understands you’re extremely intelligent and not easy manipulated by his bullshit. So instead he tried to “read you” and critiques your character. He was soo off point it was crazy. The only thing I agree with is when he addressed how you reacted when ppl kept calling you
@xemphis1690
@xemphis1690 Жыл бұрын
Max doesn't join till like 1:30:00 just sayiiiin And convo doesn't start till 1:49:00 jeez this vid could use some time stamps
@silvera-00
@silvera-00 Жыл бұрын
After watching most of the interviews he's had after the article dropped I can confidently say that Max is fucking nuts. Dude can't talk to someone without gaslighting and telling people what they're thinking or feeling. Also, those older videos of him talking to Shaelin like a fucking dog popped up too. I may not agree with how Destiny handled the Anna situation but I can't say I wouldn't have done the same. Lav deserved what she got. Max is in no position to label someone abusive.
@dolltron6965
@dolltron6965 Жыл бұрын
Not nuts. An edgelord who knows how to get under peoples skin. I mean he did manage to get under the skin of his tutor for an assignment and get arrested as a potential school shooter....even though what he discussed was indeed part of the assignment. He's a Machiavellian anti-hero who sees people as action figures in some game he's playing.
@BarBea83722
@BarBea83722 Жыл бұрын
2:46:10 maxwell, you said that when people are defensive to criticism,they’re abusive. That’s you in this moment.
@thaejsooriya3313
@thaejsooriya3313 Жыл бұрын
This was such a waste of time, please never have anything to do with him again, looking forward to your next video :)
@EdindroWhitehall
@EdindroWhitehall Жыл бұрын
Oh, look, I skipped to a random part of the video, and Max is lecturing you about the questions you're asking. Time for the internet to ditch this guy.
@angeltangle
@angeltangle Жыл бұрын
Ugh he's displaying signs of a personality disorder. Am not diagnosing, but this is what happens when you try yo have a rational conversation with an irrational mind. You had to find out for yourself I guess. However, there is value in heeding the advice of those who've gone through an experience and been burnt before. You don't have to tolerate the rudeness of the delusional to prove you're acting in good faith. And Girl, invest in some connectivity training or learning modules already. 😂
@Florida_Woman
@Florida_Woman Жыл бұрын
I’ve been really curious to hear your take on this. Also, you look great!!
@vlad-igor
@vlad-igor Жыл бұрын
He speaks like my brother, it's so sad.
@THEE_Kisywisy
@THEE_Kisywisy Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@aLatios
@aLatios Жыл бұрын
3:27:20 Can anyone refer me to the convo between Pisco and Destiny that Mr. Girl was referring to, apparently a day before this? Sounds rlly interesting
@paulscod
@paulscod Жыл бұрын
mr gaslighter
@Hello-ig1px
@Hello-ig1px Жыл бұрын
no, mr pedo. get it right, pal
@JesskaPizzIe
@JesskaPizzIe Жыл бұрын
Almost 1 hour of you working on Discord gave a good insight into how you both handle stress, lol 😅
@vikkipink1288
@vikkipink1288 Жыл бұрын
This is the longest silence I think I’ve ever heard in a stream like this
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
MrGirl asked her what she believes whether Destiny is an abuser or not. But then says that he doesn't care whether anyone believes him or not. It's insane how contradictory MrGirl is.
@Hsjfbxgakehucishu
@Hsjfbxgakehucishu Жыл бұрын
He later said he cares in one way but not another
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
@@Hsjfbxgakehucishu I am not looking for a gotcha. If he has changed his mind, I am ok with that.
@sagefromonline
@sagefromonline Жыл бұрын
he's so melodramatic
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
MrGirl is so manipulative. Holy shit! "I just want to protect you!!!"
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
When you research abusive behavior you can't ignore the relationship. Things happen in relation to other things. Someone shooting someone else is murder. But if one threatens your life and you kill him, it is self defense. In both cases, someone dies, but we would never call the first one a murderer. The same goes for abusive behavior. I don't know if people are all just virgins, but things like that happen in relationships.
@handsomebear.
@handsomebear. Жыл бұрын
mrgirl _actually_ turned into a tinfoilhat wearing lunatic after getting banned from Destinys subreddit, jesus :V Or more accurately, probably, it got him to finally unmask~
@nonergonon
@nonergonon Жыл бұрын
Finally finished watching it…took like 5 attempts 🥲 somehow the tech issue portion was the least awkward of their conversation lol I pray for myself the kind of patience Kid has
@performanceenhancingdude5362
@performanceenhancingdude5362 Жыл бұрын
Watching kidology make max sit in silence and play the silence game was so hilarious! Normally he loves to sit and think but he couldn’t wait for her to get to talking again because he couldn’t stand the implication. Not to mention he was reading the chat non stop which again was funny for the guy who made a splash by telling all his guests to close there chats because people don’t listen to each other with the chat on. He looked utterly manic if not blatantly on something prescription or otherwise throughout this interaction. Just take a look back to that first video where he met destiny and see how much he’s degraded physically and mentally since. Yikes bro
@BadgerUKvideo
@BadgerUKvideo Жыл бұрын
Autism armour engaged. His silent mode had absolutely zero effect on her.
@Sistarful
@Sistarful Жыл бұрын
Yeeks, luv'n him got to be an Angelic Task! Yeeks! She answered your question Mr. Girl! Sheesh! Kudos 2 U Kidology! U R a Master Interviewer! The patience of an Angel to boot!
@AllAboutElle
@AllAboutElle Жыл бұрын
How does he not get the while he accuses Destiny of being manipulative and abusive he himself is very manipulative and abusive. The fact that he thinks he can even tell you who to talk to is mind blowing.
@Millennialaire
@Millennialaire Жыл бұрын
Because an interview recently Max has ascribed his behaviors and actions to be the fault of Destiny.
@ConcordDown
@ConcordDown Жыл бұрын
Max saying and warning you about Destiny made me cringe sop hard. You should look up Lav and her story.... Destiny is not a bad guy here
@JijonJang
@JijonJang Жыл бұрын
Max just wants PV for his article, he is not interested in actually doing an interview and be press with hard questions
@conroconro
@conroconro Жыл бұрын
3:33:00 "I was trying to protect you" No. You're trying to get people on your own side, you want their attention. Their platform. Their access.
@Jrez
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
Mr. Girl is the worst professional mind reader ever.
@socialcompendium1423
@socialcompendium1423 Жыл бұрын
3:37:00 Max tried to imply that if Kid plans to talk to Destiny about this conversation, then she’s going to get harassed (also implying that the harassers will be from Destiny’s camp). However, I can’t shake the feeling that he’s just using that as a veiled threat to Kid. It’s like a mob boss going to a restaurant and saying “pay me a protection fee so I can protect you, it would be unfortunate if this establishment isn’t well protected.” It’s not destiny that kid needs to stay away from, it’s Max. No matter how interesting, tortured and compliment max’s mind is--most of us are not equipped to deal with his exhaustive word games. Kid did a superb job here and I honestly commend her for her patience.
@DetectiveStablerSVU
@DetectiveStablerSVU Жыл бұрын
This is clear evidence that Destiny has complete control over it and everyone else in his cult (which is anyone on the internet at all)
@d5orin
@d5orin Жыл бұрын
This is the first time i see a video of Max and he strikes me as a sociopath. He's giving me the creeps.
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Жыл бұрын
Destiny isn't going around calling himself a savior, but MrGirl is. He constantly says trust me, I just want to save you. People who help don't constantly say they are the savior. They just help!!! Calling yourself X, doesn't make you X. MrGirl himself says that all the time. And people who help don't need to call themself a savior, because people see that they are helping.
@BlinJe
@BlinJe Жыл бұрын
please can you cut the pre-amble and tech difficulties out of your youtube videos?
@chuck9483
@chuck9483 Жыл бұрын
Cries out in pain as they strike you
@obelittle530
@obelittle530 Жыл бұрын
TDLR: Mr girl: Destiny bad Kid: Why? Mr. Girl: cause I have seen a pattern Kid: I don't see it why should I believe you? Mr. girl: Because of said Pattern Both: Lets dig into the semantics of this super basic conversation for a super long time This type of content is unnecessary at best and Kid and Mr. girl sound like philosophers who drone on and on about the same thing explaining the same thing through a thousand different lenses.
@SergeofBIBEK
@SergeofBIBEK Жыл бұрын
Kidology, what is your background? Don't dox yourself or anything, but what kind of field or major or knowledge base are you coming from/working with?
@Schinken_
@Schinken_ Жыл бұрын
3:49:00 are you sure he wrote a song called this is america? I looked everywhere and couldn't find anything except some other songs.
@Chris-il5im
@Chris-il5im Жыл бұрын
This is Trollology at her best. 🤣🤣
@rooruffneck
@rooruffneck Жыл бұрын
Max says that he wants to humanize nazies. Can one of his fans explain what he means?
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 Жыл бұрын
Max did not agree with Destiny platforming certain ppl. I think he wanted Destiny to call Nick Fuentes a nazi.
@rooruffneck
@rooruffneck Жыл бұрын
@@beewest5704 I know. But Max says that his own mission includes humanizing nazies. That's what I want to understand.
@sticks1990
@sticks1990 Жыл бұрын
Conversation starts at around 1:48
@kennypham3856
@kennypham3856 Жыл бұрын
Just because someone is right doesn't mean they're not insane, or a jerk!
@adeli4002
@adeli4002 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this conversation is that MrGirl wants Kid to talk to him, from the context and the framework that he set up.
@GiltleyRage
@GiltleyRage Жыл бұрын
2:18:18 Dude, everyone would say: "What the fuck are you doing, there's nothing in there" as literally everyone is saying right now xD It's perfectly natural to be surprised and oppose you in this situation. If someone's says "I understand you see a goblin" whiteout any objective evidence, you should be really worried, cause they're already accepted you're delusional.
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