A DETAILED LOOK INSIDE A T-72

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Mr Hewes

Mr Hewes

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@PeteMcGo
@PeteMcGo 11 ай бұрын
WARNING! If the air pressure is above 16 MPa in the air system, close valves at bottles and open valve for air release. - This is needed probably due to maximum pressure at the starting air bottles. So it should be 16 Mpa, there have been couple of accidents when drivers somehow managed to kick off the intake pipes and it ripped their legs a bit. If you are refilling the cooling system with antifreeze liquid set the VODA = switch to ANTIFRIZ (yeah its antifreeze) and if you wanna fill the system with water switch it to VODA (water). Start driving at lower transmission ratio. Driving at all of the transmission ratios is allowed if the temperature of engine cooling liquid and engine oil is above 55°C. Do not exceed engine oile temperature above 120°C, cooling water temperature above 115°C and antifreeze coolant above 105°C. Stop the engine only if the engine coolant liquid temperature is lower than 90°C. In the winter season, when environment temperatures are below 0°C, if the the tank was stationary for a longer while (means if the whole vehicle got cooled down to environment temperature), double pump refill according to KP (??) needs to be done according to instructions for use while running the vehicle on gasoline. Before starting the engine start the pump BCN (label ?) and hold the button for air release valve (TLACIDLO VYPUSTANIA VZDUCHU should be the label). Shut down the BCN pump immediately after stopping the vehicle. If the selector of transmission gears is not blocking shifts to 6th gear at 1900RPM or to 5th at 2000RPM and the indicator is off (there should be an indicator light for it labeled "VOLIC PREVODOVYCH STUPNOV" or "BLOKOVANIE RADICA/PREVODOVKY" or something like that) drive only up to 4th gear. Tried my best, if you need more help with translating labels etc either shoot me a message or it is Slovak language. I have worked around these tanks in musuem a bit only refilling fluids and rotten hoses but might be able to help a bit. Good luck :) Edit: My reply to this comment seems to got deleted because of links so... So the model you have seems to got produced by ZTS Martin in Slovakia, they made around 235 of these vehicles and I if I recall correctly they were mostly for export (dont take this as a fact plz). But that might explain the missing smoke cover launchers etc... for further customization possibly with era plates etc. You were very correct about anybody letting near the tank, its honestly more dangerous for it's operators than it might be on todays battlefield. Also turret armour behind gunner and commander is about 2/3 inch-ish (might vary), 50. cal goes through and I woud even count on some 7,62x54R or .308 pen rounds making a mess inside the turret possibly. The spring loaded hatches on engine were usually open when driving around, not sure if it was so due to engine cooling issues but every time I was around this tank actually driving, they had them opened just so that the springs held them open. Fluid leaks are common the oil below engine might not even be a issue, it's just like it is. Before starting the tank even after couple of days, always check the fluid levels and run the engine oil pump even couple of times before starting, as it mentioned in that manual plaque :) The driver hatch is the reason why you often see soviet tanks parked with barrels facing off center and raised up while being parked :) Also this concrete piece you have is most likely "ulozenka" which was manufactured, then stored for trade or replacement, because of the oiled paper covers on tankers helmets and barrel filled with cosmoline (conserving vaseline). This might explain also some issues with vehicle if somebody who was using it for the first time didnt completely remove all this stuff before starting it up for the first time. I am really exicted and looking forward for series with this tank :) Good luck again guys :)
@williamstephens9945
@williamstephens9945 11 ай бұрын
Well done!
@LostCauseRT
@LostCauseRT 11 ай бұрын
@JesusThineBeTheGlory technically, yes, though you could do that in pretty much any vehicle. It's just a liquid after all.
@twat584
@twat584 11 ай бұрын
Full user manual right here
@petervankas1352
@petervankas1352 11 ай бұрын
Excellent post👍👏👏
@lilterr
@lilterr 11 ай бұрын
This thing about .50 cal going thru the back of the turret is the biggest bs I heard about T72
@kaieeoo
@kaieeoo 10 ай бұрын
Im czech. My Grandpa used to be a commander in t-72m. I asked him about it. But he is very old now and does not remeber a lot about the tank anymore+ he is partially deaf because of his Compulsory military service. But he was so excited to see that some people are interested in this tank
@craftyukraine
@craftyukraine 8 ай бұрын
You say: “Im czech.” I say: “Bless you!”
@fatcontrollerproductions9910
@fatcontrollerproductions9910 7 ай бұрын
Z victory will be ours🇷🇺 ​@@craftyukraine
@nolkerss
@nolkerss 4 ай бұрын
​@@fatcontrollerproductions9910 "3 days to Kyiv!!1!!1!1!1!1" 😂😂😂
@SlavaIsusu-z1q
@SlavaIsusu-z1q Ай бұрын
​@@fatcontrollerproductions9910Based. Z 🇷🇺☦️✝️
@comanderx5677
@comanderx5677 11 ай бұрын
That is a Czech T-72M or as its known in NATO a T-72G. It features a 125mm 2A46 Smoothbore cannon with a 23 round auto-loader (with a reload speed of around 6 seconds per shot (Depending on the where the shell is located in the autoloader. Also features a PKT coaxial machine gun (~2000 round carried in one link) and sometime features a 12.7mm DSHk or 14.5mm NSV for the commanders hatch (intended for anti-helicopter use). Houses a crew of 3 (Driver, Comander, Gunner). These were originally produced in Slovakia (all of which have now been modernised into the T-72M4CZ variant)
@autismo785
@autismo785 11 ай бұрын
Not all have been modernised, 125 T-72s but only 30 T-72M4CZs
@chrisbacon3071
@chrisbacon3071 11 ай бұрын
This comment should get pinned.
@robtearle565
@robtearle565 11 ай бұрын
The M4cZ's went to Ukraine I believe, re-engined with a perkins cv12 which doubles the range and gives neutral turn capabilities. Correct me if I am wrong...
@comanderx5677
@comanderx5677 11 ай бұрын
​@@autismo785 reading further into the modernisation program, we are both wrong. there were only 33 examples of the 72M4CZ built, with 90 of the Upgraded T-72s (the T-72 Avenger or T-72EA being built (there was an option for another 30 examples but they decided to not procure them))
@DominikCmunt
@DominikCmunt 11 ай бұрын
No, we kept the T-72M4CZ because it's the best tank we have and sent these T-72M1s to Ukraine. We got the Leopards 2A4s from the Germans in return.@@robtearle565
@MegaJani
@MegaJani 11 ай бұрын
"H" is neutral because it's the Russian "N" letter. "3X" is "задний ход" abbreviated, which is, you guessed it, "reverse gear".
@CapCody
@CapCody 11 ай бұрын
Hownis it pronounced btw
@stefantrajkovic7157
@stefantrajkovic7157 11 ай бұрын
@@CapCody zadniy khod
@serg3659
@serg3659 8 ай бұрын
@@stefantrajkovic7157 prokhod
@ИнспекторГаджет-е3о
@ИнспекторГаджет-е3о Ай бұрын
Zadniy prokhod
@janctrnacty1215
@janctrnacty1215 11 ай бұрын
Translation of panel: Warning! 1. If is pressure of air system grater than 16MPa close air tanks valves and open air consumption ventile. 2. When filling coolant into system, set switch “VODA-ANTIFRIZ” to “ANTIFRIZ” position, if filling with water to “VODA” position 3. Start driving vehicle on lower gears if coolant and oil temperature is min +30C , driving on all gears is allowed only when temperature of coolant and oil temperature is min +55C. 4. Do not allow oil temperature to rise above +120C, water above +115C, and antifreeze above +105C. 5. Stop the engine only when coolant temperature is no higher than 90C. 6. In winter (in temperature lower than 0C) before longer stop is necessary to do double fill of oil from “KP” according the instructions on (unreadable) 7. If using gas as fuel, two minutes before starting engine start “BCN” pump and press and hold “VENTILY” (valves) push button. 8. When driving on 6 and 7th gear on 1800 rpm of engine, and on 5th gear on 2000 rpm, and the gear selector is not yet blocked (warning light is not lit) - drive only till 4th gear.
@notdax3620
@notdax3620 11 ай бұрын
Cool
@LucasC-u4f
@LucasC-u4f 10 ай бұрын
Bro is prepared for war
@Dumbo280
@Dumbo280 8 ай бұрын
Niet to know
@Dumbo280
@Dumbo280 8 ай бұрын
Nice to know
@therealdohos2607
@therealdohos2607 8 ай бұрын
"euro guys" know how to capture a T-72M/G if russia ever attacks you
@Pietaster89
@Pietaster89 11 ай бұрын
The pipe you found on the back of the turret- you screw the pieces together to make a suction pipe to reach the bottom of a fuel barrel, they fit the electric fuel pump you found. The first pipe you picked up has a non return flap in it to prevent back flow.
@ricbarker4829
@ricbarker4829 11 ай бұрын
It also has a stand off on the bottom so it doesn't hit the bottom of the drum and stop the flow.
@obeyobay9146
@obeyobay9146 9 ай бұрын
No it’s the snorkelling system
@fulgrimventris8506
@fulgrimventris8506 8 ай бұрын
@@obeyobay9146 The snorkeling system is the BIG pipe bolted to the turret. He's talking about the kit they found in the bins on the turret.
@obeyobay9146
@obeyobay9146 8 ай бұрын
@@fulgrimventris8506 ah, I thought he was talking about the big pipe
@stevef3274
@stevef3274 11 ай бұрын
The Hardbass quietly playing in the background was a nice touch.
@LadislavHezoucky
@LadislavHezoucky 8 ай бұрын
Zobrazit všechn 25:28 y nové
@ABrit-bt6ce
@ABrit-bt6ce 7 ай бұрын
Ted Supervising.
@Voxo-foxo
@Voxo-foxo 11 ай бұрын
29:08 it does have a stabilizer but due to the low depression of the gun at higher speeds if you are traversing rough terrain the gun might get thrown off by a small bump
@AprezaRenaldy
@AprezaRenaldy 11 ай бұрын
Bt 7 also have stabilizer
@konstantin88181
@konstantin88181 11 ай бұрын
All soviet tanks had two-axis stabilizers starting from T-55. As well as commanders ability to turn the gut towards the target. Also you showed a footage of T-64 - T-80 autoloader which is different from T-72 - T-90.
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
The technicaly names are аз (ural pattern tanks) and мз (malyshev). Both equate to "automatic" and "mechanical" autoloaders, though operate with the same exact loading times. They have more than a dozen iterations, allowing for different ammo. Hence why Iraqi tanks could only fire 3BM9/12 (3BM10/13 through foreign name) through АЗ-172/100 autoloaders, and currently-day tanks can fire 3BM69/70 through АЗ-148/[500/550] autoloaders (T-90M and T-14 respectively). Standard for 1990-2014 T-72s and beyond is the АЗ-184/330-5, which is capable of 3BM59/60. The naming system goes АЗ / МЗ - Autoloader type, automatic / mechanical respectively, which mean the same thing but Ural is a bitch with names ### - Object number that the autoloader applies to. AZ-172 applied to the Object 172, or the pre-pro T-72. 176 is the primary production of T-72, and 184 is the secondary production of T-72 / T-72B onwards. T-90s (188) used the same autoloader as the late T-72s (184), though had new electronics applied. That brings us to sub-variants; ###[/#] - Variant of autoloader for a specific tank. Usually it relates to the memory unit, FCC, or loader drive names, though it can be anything. Like the 172/100 that I mentioned, it was simply named 100 because it was the first variant. 300 series were named after the memory unit, and /# was added to whichever gun the memory unit was capable of cataloguing ammunition for. 330/5 corresponded to the 2A46M-5, 330/3 to the M-3, and so on. The 148 autoloaders is special, as it was drastically enlargened (word?). It's mounted on the T-90M (148/500) and T-14 Armata (148/550), and was applied ONLY on the T-90M. The T-90AM was a stopgap tank to the T-90M, and only featured a new turret, no accommodations for a better engine upgrade or autoloader / crew protection. When the T-90M was designed, the T-90AM was redesignated T-90MS with a few changed, and exported. (It couldn't be T-90SM, like the T-90A/T-90SM, as SM normally meant "standard modernization" or "serial modernization", which it was not).
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 11 ай бұрын
@@TheArcticFoxxo enlarged
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
@@charlesangell_bulmtl ?
@cheften2mk
@cheften2mk 11 ай бұрын
You mean T-55A and forward
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
@@cheften2mk T-54B started it
@ill76er11
@ill76er11 11 ай бұрын
I can’t believe how incredibly cramped and tight it is inside… I can’t imagine having to live and fight inside that vehicle.. much respect to everyone who has experience operating this vehicle.. either in combat or not.
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
Granted, he makes our average height looks like dwarves. Later standard models of '184 had adjustable seats for MANY options, too. As well as the Gunner and Commander's seats being able to fold away, leaving quite a lot of room to lie down on the autoloader cover.
@allanmason3201
@allanmason3201 11 ай бұрын
I'm not someone who suffers from claustrophobia, but watching this video gave me the same heebie-jeebies that I get when reading or hearing about caving and going through squeezes. It was almost as unpleasant as stories about cave diving.
@shirley-ie5vj
@shirley-ie5vj 11 ай бұрын
Especially for the russian "liberators" who use these things to shoot at people in foreign lands, right?
@keithlennox8195
@keithlennox8195 10 ай бұрын
​@TheArcticFoxxo the Accordingto what I have seen, Russian Tank crews where only around the 5ft 4in height.
@МихаилВасильев-в9д
@МихаилВасильев-в9д 10 ай бұрын
@@keithlennox8195 yes, small height was one of the requirements to serve as a member of the tank crew.
@legodude9
@legodude9 11 ай бұрын
That giant metal plate you pick up at around 28:00 is part of the shoulder shield, it's supposed to be connected I think so you cannot accidently loose your shoulder to the Autoloader
@Just_a_Plane_motorcycle_rider
@Just_a_Plane_motorcycle_rider 11 ай бұрын
Watch Australian Armour (workshop Wednesday) for the restoration stuff but watch you guys because I love the fact that I have absolutely “ no f@#$&g clue what you nutters are gonna do next” genuinely love watching a bunch of mates enjoy themselves, don’t change anything, there’s a reason your channel is growing 🇦🇺🙂👍
@nriqueog
@nriqueog 11 ай бұрын
It's like were all in class learning together, except Seb's asleep with the camera and Joe's cheating. ;)
@Spartan902
@Spartan902 11 ай бұрын
I love watching Aus Armour as well. These buggers are hilarious! I have only just discovered the channel.🇦🇺
@farmersboy
@farmersboy 11 ай бұрын
Bugger health and safety...no BV! ps - you were fine on the livestream, and you approach and sense of humour is spot on.
@charliedesperado8262
@charliedesperado8262 11 ай бұрын
Your commitment to the Gopnik hardbass music makes this vid an 11 out of 10!
@guiderguy5210
@guiderguy5210 11 ай бұрын
7:50 - The T-72 actually has a different turning mechanism - instead of the side clutches like on a T-34 , this one has two gearboxes - when you pull the steering lever (lets say the left one) into 1st position it actually shifts the left gearbox into a lower gear and thus - the tank turns. Because of this - every gear has a fixed turning radius. the more you know ;) . Keep it up man - you have a great channel
@jamesscott5407
@jamesscott5407 11 ай бұрын
Finally found someone else who knows!!every book and even the tank museum say a 7 speed synchro gearbox...when in fact there are two 7 speed epicyclic transmissions hydraulically actuated through a master and slave system (master on the shifter, slaves on the steering tillers) ingenious way of drive and steer, the wonders of soviet engineering!
@guiderguy5210
@guiderguy5210 11 ай бұрын
@@jamesscott5407 I work as a volunteer in a polish museum on the t-72
@jamesscott5407
@jamesscott5407 11 ай бұрын
@@guiderguy5210 you're my new favourite person in the world! Nice to meet you! The t72 is my all time tank! Such amazing engineering prowess, it's so hard to come by literature in the west, especially English translated, I've had to do a lot of digging around Russian and eastern websites with Google translate. Hope you're well brother
@anticlaassic
@anticlaassic 11 ай бұрын
I once had the opportunity to drive a t55 and I believe it already had the gearboxes set up like the t72. The actual gear lever was different though.
@guiderguy5210
@guiderguy5210 11 ай бұрын
@@anticlaassic nope - the t55 has a different turning mechanism - from what i know it works like brakes on a car - just braking pads that tighter around a braking drum.
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 11 ай бұрын
Superb episode Joe. Watching you struggle to even move around inside that was so insightful. I guess I’m about 8 to 9 stone heavier than you and I don’t think I could even get in it. When you see a tank like that you are in awe of it BUT once inside you realise (in a combat situation) how vulnerable and blind you really are. Well done, loved it 👍
@Retro-Future-Land
@Retro-Future-Land 11 ай бұрын
It's no exaggeration when I've read of how crew comfort goes completely out of the window in T-72 tanks. Damn that is a tight squeeze. Fascinating stuff at the same time though.
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
He's quite tall
@oliverpasztor788
@oliverpasztor788 11 ай бұрын
It's not as bad as you would imagine. I am 177cm and I fit comfortably in all crew positions. Most of our drivers are quite a bit taller than me.
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 11 ай бұрын
@@oliverpasztor788 I'm around 163-165, it's quite comfortable with a modern variant, especially one that you've had time to make room-y
@AprezaRenaldy
@AprezaRenaldy 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheArcticFoxxoi only 160 from and the t72 has plenty of space
@lodickasvlajeckou
@lodickasvlajeckou 10 ай бұрын
Well it was made for the average height at the time which was 175 cm and also tank crew just has a suit and their tank helmet nothing more on
@jonh9561
@jonh9561 11 ай бұрын
Huge amount of respect for the mechanics that have to work on these!
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 11 ай бұрын
One aspect that was universally well received by Chieftain crews was its inclusion of a Boiling Vessel. This device boiled water for the purpose of brewing tea, though it was also often used for heating field rations. I never had any trouble Parking the Mk3!
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 11 ай бұрын
i just love the design. we recently almost seen t-72s in action nearby with the essequibo conundrum because venezuela still uses the 72B1 (i live in brazil), but thankfully didn't come to it. still love their slick shape
@markmarot9026
@markmarot9026 11 ай бұрын
Hi guys! Love your videos. Its hard to judge the t-72. There is so much false information out about it. Just to correct you, it does have a 2 plain stabiliser system. It allso has a laser range finder. You need to judge this vehicle, knowing that this acual modell was intended and designed for conscripted mass armies. They needed it simple, because they needed a lot. Dont forget, there was tens of thousends produced. I have to agree, it is very small inside. But again, you need to know, there was a limit in the army of how tall you can be to become a tanker. I think here in Hungary it was maybe 170 or 175cm. Something like that. So it is small, it isnt very comfortable, but it was never made to be. It was made to be fast, small, simple to operate and cheap to produce. And it packs a big punch too. Now there are many myths about this tank. Like the autoloader ripping arms off. Now I have watched, read everything I can about this tank and I have never heard of this happening. Of course it can, but you have to be very stupid. You literally have a "wall" up to your shoulder, why would you want to reach over it? Of course I understand you, but basicly you people are spoiled. You could create a tank which does everything and is pretty comfortable. In the soviet union, there was no nead for that, it would have taken too much effort and money. So this is what we got, here in the ex socialist block too. And if conscripts could operate it without killing them selves, I think its not that bad. Oh, and about the autoloader! Yes, they are extremely reliable. I never understood the part when people went on about sitting on top of ammo. Allmoast all tanks today, and fpdefinetely all tanks of those times had ammo all over the tank. Whats the differencenof sitting on or beside it? I think its harder to hit it when its on the floor basicly, than if it was on the turret wall or hull side. I am a big fan of the t72, but I do really like the Chieftain too. Keep up the good work!
@Gustis40g
@Gustis40g 11 ай бұрын
The difference between the ammo storage on the different tanks is that on modern tanks it's in a separate compartment. Sure you've got ammo loads in the turret bustle (turret rear) and ammo next to the driver on modern tanks. But they're self contained and if the ammo were to be hit and ignite, there's an engineered weak point on the outside of the tank which will direct the blast away from the tank. On the T-64 and T-72 style carousel auto loaders there's no way to create an blow off panel, so if the ammo were to get hit the blast will have nowhere to go and the turret will literally fly off the tank. I do agree with you that the T-72 is a great tank when it comes to ease of mass production but they're not any easier to use than western tanks. Furthermore since they're so cramped it will lower crew ergonomics and ultimately lower morale and crew efficiency. Ultimately the Soviet doctrine was proven to be inferior since even Russia has started adopting the western doctrine of quality of quantity.
@markmarot9026
@markmarot9026 11 ай бұрын
@@Gustis40g exactly what I said. On modern tanks, you do have a seperate l, isolated storage for ammo. But in the days the t72 was designed, none of them had it. This is a weakness today.
@thegenericguy8309
@thegenericguy8309 11 ай бұрын
The T-72 was a stupidly, ridiculously good tank for its time. It had thick and effective composite armor across the entire frontal arc, the most powerful gun mounted to any AFV in service at the time, a high rate of fire, good fire control equipment, a cheap, reliable, and fuel efficient engine, and it was light and cheap on top of all of that. It also isn't as uncomfortable as it looks; all the space is where you're expected to be in your position. This does make it uncomfortable to do anything that isn't operating the vehicle, but it was not very uncomfortable to be at your station.
@markmarot9026
@markmarot9026 11 ай бұрын
@@thegenericguy8309 agree. Alltough the t72 ural and the t72m verions only had composite in the hull front, the t72m1 had a sand/quartz filled cavity in the front off the turret and the t72B had proper layered compisite in the turret front. It is stupid to compare a simple M version to an abrams. Realisticly an Abrams should be compared to a t80u or t72b obr. 1989.
@thegenericguy8309
@thegenericguy8309 11 ай бұрын
​@@markmarot9026 The Quartz turret features a five layer composite array; a front steel layer, three layers of sintered quartz ceramic, and a back steel layer. If memory serves me right, this turret provides roughly 400mm of kinetic protection, which is actually around the same as the basic production model of M1 Abrams prior to M1A1. It was a competent composite array for its time and it offered good performance even relative to the Leopard 2A4 and M1 Abrams. The only thing unusually low about its specs was its cost. There's no one Abrams in terms of armor, it changed all the time in the cold war just like the T-72. T-72B was flagrantly just better armored, though. M1A2 was pretty vulnerable to 3BM42 and 3BM46, but would have a very unhappy time trying to get through a T-72B '89 with M829A1.
@hughvane
@hughvane 11 ай бұрын
I was declined entry into the NZAC during my compulsory military training in the early 1970s because I was deemed "too tall to fit inside an M41" - and I was then just touching on 1.79m (6'). Joe looks taller than I was (then), so he should wear the title of 'tank maintenance & repair' and stay right out of the machine's inner spaces! 😄
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 11 ай бұрын
Did you want to be inside one of those cramped coffins on treads?
@gagatube
@gagatube 11 ай бұрын
Love your sense of humour and fascinated by what you get your hands on, vehicle-wise. Please keep on keeping on!
@steamwally
@steamwally 8 ай бұрын
Enjoying your videos, thanks! I had the opportunity to go and work with tanks about a decade ago and a weekend of heaving great heavy components around in confined spaces was plenty enough to put me off for life... went to work on old military aircraft instead... so I have great respect for those who actually enjoy working with these things!
@LansaDiag
@LansaDiag 11 ай бұрын
I didn't expect the t72's interior to be any good, but holy heck...That's a downright nightmare.
@ДокторХибберт
@ДокторХибберт 11 ай бұрын
And this thing was blown up from any antitank missle or not big mine, because gun operator sitting on gun ammunition
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed 11 ай бұрын
Do you care to find out what the ratio of Soviet tanks vs NATO tanks was during the Cold War? Take your time.
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed 11 ай бұрын
@@ДокторХибберт hurr durr stooopeeed propagaaanda Abrams is the only Cold War era NATO tank that has its entire ammo rack isolated in the turret bustle.
@nonedibledonut
@nonedibledonut 11 ай бұрын
​@@ДокторХиббертnot every anti tank missile can penetrate the t72 and in NATO tank leopard leclerc the driver sit near gun ammunition which also explode and can launch turret in the air(example: Turkish leopard 2a4 destroyed in syria)like the Russian one
@geemcspankinson
@geemcspankinson 11 ай бұрын
​@@ДокторХиббертYes, they are called anti-tank weapons and for a reason.
@Rob1972Gem
@Rob1972Gem 11 ай бұрын
I admire your ability to go in confined spaces. I’m myself and slightly claustrophobic and this is the first time I’ve ever had slight anxiety watching a KZbin video. I could never even have got in the drivers compartment and I don’t think I’d ever tried to crawl between there and the turret You get 12 out of 10 for bravery tank looks amazing
@MicMc539
@MicMc539 11 ай бұрын
You should go out more.
@mediocremike5986
@mediocremike5986 11 ай бұрын
I’m surprised it got past Soviet Health and Safety!
@Kosolapoe
@Kosolapoe 11 ай бұрын
In fact, the T-72 has a gun stabilizer in two planes. When the system starts, the gunner activates the gyroscope. Which spins for two minutes, and then the gun is unlocked.
@The_Touring_Jedi
@The_Touring_Jedi 9 ай бұрын
Good old mechanical gyro. Nothing beats it today.😂
@Mltemple8333
@Mltemple8333 11 ай бұрын
Production and editing are on point! Fantastic job gentlemen.
@davewarrender2056
@davewarrender2056 11 ай бұрын
Luv this vid guys , I was I the RAF during the 90's , and this type of tank was still quite common , I've never seen one in person , but your. Video on the fact that it's lighter , faster and shorter than a. Cheiften, makes me wonder, if we would have fared as well as our bosses believed in open. Combat on the flat plains of Europe. I think we would have struggled agInst these tanks
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 11 ай бұрын
Not just lighter and faster but also 10x the buggers. 'Quantity has a quality all of its own'
@dannyv2335
@dannyv2335 11 ай бұрын
2 different tanks made for 2 different purposes. Chieftains were built to defend being hull down and T series were built to advance
@thegenericguy8309
@thegenericguy8309 11 ай бұрын
@@WozWozEre Also, it had a full set of composite armor and a dart throwing smoothbore
@Pietaster89
@Pietaster89 11 ай бұрын
The pipe you found on the back of the turret- you screw the pieces together to make a reach pipe for a fuel barrel I think, there was probably a hand cranked pump to go with the flexible fuel filling pipe and solid barrel reach pipe. The first pipe you picked up has a non return flap in it to prevent back flow.
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 11 ай бұрын
The Czech and Polish T-72Ms didn't get smoke mortars until the mid-late 80s. They never got around to upgrading this one.
@bohuslavzeman4982
@bohuslavzeman4982 10 ай бұрын
This one was made in Slovakia.
@cdgncgn
@cdgncgn 6 ай бұрын
Czechs didnt make T-72s.
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 6 ай бұрын
@@cdgncgn Czechoslovakia did make them so don't be a smart arse. And to add I didn't say the Czech's made this one I simply stated that the T-72s in Czech service started being upgraded to M1 standard in the mid 80s.
@tyrusklinefelter6278
@tyrusklinefelter6278 11 ай бұрын
Very jealous of the CVC helmet you got with your tank. Great show, was on Abrams, M60A1,, M48A5, M113A1 & M577A1 back in the 80's in the US Army.
@MickKeenan
@MickKeenan 11 ай бұрын
Great Video! I don't think that it would be on fire for long, before the turret ejection system kicks in.
@Jkush463
@Jkush463 11 ай бұрын
do a tank giveaway
@AnthonyDelph-bf4zx
@AnthonyDelph-bf4zx 2 ай бұрын
Yeah right bro
@MarkanthonyMantilla-j8j
@MarkanthonyMantilla-j8j 2 ай бұрын
Can I have some?
@megapet777
@megapet777 29 күн бұрын
with worldwide shipping
@cambo1200
@cambo1200 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like that tank is more dangerous to the operators then the enemy. Oh, and I can can hear that hard bass in the background, lol!
11 ай бұрын
Russian ergonomy :)
@stokypetrenko3843
@stokypetrenko3843 11 ай бұрын
the text you found in the box is in Slovak so I assume this T-72 was manufactured in czechoslovakia. the translation is something like : Attention! 1. if the pressure of the air is above 16MPo in the air system, close vemtils of the bottles and open the ventils for the air outtake(dunno how to translate it) 2. While filling the cooling system with antifreeze, switchthe gauge water=antifreeze unto antifreeze, while filing the water switch it to water. 3.Start driving on lower gears with the water and oil temperature min +30 degrees, driving in all gears is allowed with temperature of cooling liquid and oil at min +55 degrees celsius. 4.Don't let the oil temperature above +120 degrees, water above +115 degrees and antiffreeze above +185 degrees. 5. Turn the engine off only with the cooling liquid temperature not higher than 50 degrees. 6. I'm struggling to translate it but it's essentially that it's important to take the double oil pump out of the engine before longer standing for expontation (whatever that means) 7.Two minutes before starting the engine on gasoline, turn the pump bcn and hold the button of the air discarge ventil. turn the pump off right after stopping 8.if you're driving on the 6th and 7th gear with engine RPM 1800 and on 5th gear with 200 RPM, the gear selector is not blocking (the control is not lit up) - drive only up ti 4th gear Hopefully this somewhat helped, some words are hard to read and some just hard to translaate so I understand if it's kinda useless but it's essentially a what to do and not do list but hey Slovak tank yippee
@genosmrad9729
@genosmrad9729 11 ай бұрын
takto dopadlo naše národné bohatstvo- v rukách nejakého imperialistického barbara!
@bohuslavzeman4982
@bohuslavzeman4982 10 ай бұрын
Corectly this tank was made under license of Ural Vagon Zavod in city Martin Slovakia. So its a Slovak Tank :)
@petermikus2363
@petermikus2363 28 күн бұрын
​@@genosmrad9729no tieto tu T-72 by som národným bohatstvom nenazíval.
@adamharrisveetwelveaerotech
@adamharrisveetwelveaerotech 11 ай бұрын
Nice toolboard. Glad to see you are exercising some tool control....... like us Aircraft guys!!!
@stco2426
@stco2426 11 ай бұрын
I thought so, too. They will be drawing around all the tools and putting labels in the spaces too, next. As I'm sure you know, this helps account for where tools are and is intended to avoid them being left where they should not, which is critical for the maintenance, the people and the tools. For Mr H it may also help them select the right size from the various. The shed is looking great and thanks for the detailed look in this vid!!
@maudiusorelius1739
@maudiusorelius1739 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe you got your hands on the top of the line modern Russian MBT, absolute madlads 🤣
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 11 ай бұрын
Amazing thing is Russia and Ukraine have been using older modification than this one in the conflict. A couple of Urals (the original version of the T-72) have been documented in use by Russian forces.
@captandysir8670
@captandysir8670 11 ай бұрын
T-90?
@DominikCmunt
@DominikCmunt 11 ай бұрын
The T-90 is the same coffin on tracks but more expensive@@captandysir8670
@belliduradespicio8009
@belliduradespicio8009 11 ай бұрын
this is a 40 year old tank
@nicholasspeke3808
@nicholasspeke3808 11 ай бұрын
He is friends with a Ukrainian farmer ;)
@jonb3311
@jonb3311 11 ай бұрын
Arse, I got so involved in watching, my tea got cold. Few people can express their enthusiasm and knowledge as well as Joe.
@madfrosty5228
@madfrosty5228 7 ай бұрын
i did the same sipping on a cold cup of tea now hahaha
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate how well organized the tools are
@philleeson7835
@philleeson7835 11 ай бұрын
A great interview down at the tank museum,well done. Very professional
@Canadian_sheep
@Canadian_sheep 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the T-72. A world renowned tank, known for having a 120mm gun. Amazing work you guys do, it’s great that you are able to show us what you do. Thank you :)
@anticlaassic
@anticlaassic 11 ай бұрын
More or less 120mm, comrad. The tolerance in factory is around 5mm if Vasilly is in a good mood
@kennyk3989
@kennyk3989 10 ай бұрын
I’m a Yank from New Jersey (don’t hold that against me) and I just found your site!! I’m having a hard time with your accent and slang but it’s all good. You guys are really informative and funny as hell. I’ve seen video from the war at Ukraine and when these Russian tanks get hit just right those turrets can definitely get blown straight up out of the tank! I don’t think there would be much left of the crew. Keep up the great work! Be safe
@starstray4326
@starstray4326 7 ай бұрын
thats more so to do with extra ammo in the hull the t72b3 ring has very little chance of going off. T80 however is a complete different story.
@klown463
@klown463 26 күн бұрын
There’s footage of every armored vehicle, including the Bradley, popping their turret, it’s not exclusive to the T72
@tombell5599
@tombell5599 11 ай бұрын
I love the simple yet effective engineering on these (hull side). The russians were very clever and understood the majority of crewmen in these were going to be conscripted guys with low technical education with little time to get them sufficiently trained. Nothing has been over engineered on these. A lot of more modern western tanks had some very innovative pieces of engineering but were prone to braking and required a lot of maintenance. These things, although not comfortable, and not particularly well protected inside and out, will work and give the crew very few problems 99% of the time.
@bassbatterer
@bassbatterer 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see a detailed view of all the nooks and crannies inside the fighting compartment.
@prillewitz
@prillewitz 11 ай бұрын
Love to watch your videos and I truly like your humour, thanks for the many entertaining hours and keep the videos coming!
@wicked_wolf3798
@wicked_wolf3798 11 ай бұрын
I love your vids man, you guys keep up the great work👌👌
@legbreaker2762
@legbreaker2762 11 ай бұрын
The autoloader feeding arms into the chamber is a myth. The VERY early T-62 had that issue, but they were modified VERY quickly to eliminate that problem.
@AprezaRenaldy
@AprezaRenaldy 11 ай бұрын
T64 not T62. also Ural factory in Siberia insulted the Kharkiv factory in Ukraine about the t64 autoloder being easily damaged while the t72 autoloder was not. 1970😂
@nolkerss
@nolkerss 4 ай бұрын
​@@AprezaRenaldyyet the Kharkov factory made the more advanced tanks lololol
@AprezaRenaldy
@AprezaRenaldy 4 ай бұрын
@@nolkerss in the past during.Soviet time. Alo The factory Don't make new tanks anymore. And the Equipment were also not upgraded after the 2014 coup
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus 11 ай бұрын
I imagine it would be even more claustrophobic if the commanders cupola was facing the right way and you had that great big massive sight right in your face lol.
@Cindered934
@Cindered934 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact:the All the T-72 variants only has three crew-members driver commander and machine gunner
@bobuncle8704
@bobuncle8704 11 ай бұрын
Nice tour, and the shops looking great
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 11 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever sat in one tank, a Chally 2 in ‘96, I thought that was claustrophobic, but this makes that look like an open plan loft apartment.
@kingfish2703
@kingfish2703 11 ай бұрын
No, there's like zero known cases of someone getting their arms ripped off by the auto loader. If you somehow manage to get your arm behind the breach block, the recoil of any tank will make short work of it.
@PumaTwoU
@PumaTwoU 11 ай бұрын
I look forward to your videos. Not everyone will get the humor, true enough, but they'll just have to cope. I envy the fact that you get to have fun and games with armor. I also follow the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum.
@BobJoyce-vw2xf
@BobJoyce-vw2xf 11 ай бұрын
Original humor just like a Monty Python sketch,and tanks. WHATS NOT 2 LOVE. Cheers from Canada.
@daminox
@daminox 11 ай бұрын
Seb's camera work is absolutely immaculate.
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood 11 ай бұрын
ALIGNMENT WHEN THE AIR PLAQUE IS ABOUT 16 MP IN THE AIR SYSTEM, CLOSE THE FLIAS VALVE AND OPEN THE AIR INTAKE VENT. WHEN RUNNING THE COOLING SYSTEM WITH ANTIFREEZE, SWITCH WATER-ANTIFREEZE TO THE ANTIFREEZE POSITION, WHEN FILLING THE HOGEU-TO A HALF OF WATER, START DRIVING IN LOWER GEARS AT COOLANT AND OIL TEMPERATURE MIN. 30°C, DRIVING IN ALL GEARS IS ALLOWED AT COLD TEMPERATURES. LIQUIDS AND OILS MIN.-55 °C. DO NOT ALLOW OIL TEMPERATURE ABOVE 120°C, WATER +115 AND ANTIFREEZE ABOVE +105°C. STOP THE ENGINE ONLY AT THE TEMPERATURE OF THE COOLANT IE VESSEL AS 30°C. IN WINTER (AT A TEMPERATURE BELOW 0 "C) IT IS NECESSARY TO CONVERT BEFORE A LONG STATE DOUBLE PUMPING OIL FROM THE KP ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE EXP OTASIT WHEN TAKING PETROL FROM THE MIN. BEFORE STARTING THE MOTORCYCLE, TURN THE BON PUMP ON AND HOLD THE VERTICAL BLEED BUTTON, THE BON PUMP SHUT UP IMMEDIATELY AFTER STOPPING IN REVERSE WHEN DRIVING IN S.AZ GEAR 1000 RPM ENGINE AND IN 5TH GEAR AT 2000 atim INSIDE THE GEAR GEAR ESTE KE BLO IT WORKS (THE INDICATOR DOESN'T ILLUMINATE - ONLY FOURTH GEAR
@Th3Mast3rL0ck
@Th3Mast3rL0ck 11 ай бұрын
37:00 dont appologize for being genuine my friend, it is part of the reason i watch they boys with thier big toys
@tinkeringwithtanks
@tinkeringwithtanks 11 ай бұрын
Very very jealous I’d love a t72!! Thank you for the mention! :)
@MrHewes
@MrHewes 11 ай бұрын
Come over for a play bud!
@garyrhodes7089
@garyrhodes7089 11 ай бұрын
if he gets in he won't get out without grease @@MrHewes
@starwarzfan4993
@starwarzfan4993 11 ай бұрын
All T-64s, T-80s, T-72s, and T-90s, as well as all T-62s, and later versions of T-55, all have a dual axis stabilizer, so T-72M is fully stabilized
@fatherglyn
@fatherglyn 11 ай бұрын
wow switch on KZbin and this video pops up - bliss :) BTW great seeing you Joe at the Tankmas event :)
@MrHewes
@MrHewes 11 ай бұрын
I was very nervous 🤣
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 11 ай бұрын
It isn't cramped, it's cozy. Nice and snug!
@Chris-xx2qb
@Chris-xx2qb 11 ай бұрын
That refuelling hose is known as a refuel/defuel hose, you can plug it in somewhere in the pack bay, flick a switch and you can refuel or defuel dependant on switch position. Or it connects to that electric pump you found, just insert into a fuel tank and away you go.
@reubenpoort9554
@reubenpoort9554 11 ай бұрын
Love how he inches toward the tank looking like he was scared he might say something the ancient soviet machine won’t like
@The_Gabinator
@The_Gabinator 11 ай бұрын
I think you mentioned somewhere that the tank is unstabilized, however I'm quite sure that every version of the t72 (and even it's predecessor, the t64s) are indeed stabilized. Would be awesome if you could get that to work, but seeing how it's demilitarized or whatever, that seems unlikely. Anyways, good luck with fixing this. Do you own it, by the way? Or are you just repairing it for someone?
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodf1802
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodf1802 11 ай бұрын
Hell, even the predecessor of the T64, the T62 and its predecessor, the T55 were fully stabilized when many US/NATO tanks didnt have stabilization
@ayylmao182
@ayylmao182 9 ай бұрын
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodf1802Sherman 76 had a gyro stabilizer, later versions of the M60 and newer were all stabilized
@alexsiegfried3693
@alexsiegfried3693 11 ай бұрын
That hat is spectacular, I bet it's really warm too and keeps your noggin safe from bumps while driving around
@ArtificialIndi
@ArtificialIndi 11 ай бұрын
yknow it would be really cool if you guys could get a 360 camera that u can put in the turret or driver areas as i feel it would give the viewer a really good sense of scale. With the camera its pretty hard to see how cramped it really is
@MrHewes
@MrHewes 11 ай бұрын
Il do this
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
​@@MrHewes50% of Soviet bridges cannot pass a 50 ton vehicle. And this big problem for western equipment in Ukraine
@ionacjohnj.59
@ionacjohnj.59 11 ай бұрын
This engine is awesome! It can run with alcohol, petrol, diesel, oil as well. The max height was 170cm maximum for the crew in Hungary in the ‘90-s.
@romavictor1SPQR
@romavictor1SPQR 11 ай бұрын
I saw Chieftain (‘The Chieftain’) had a video commenting on the flying turret autoloader problem, that a lot of the internal explosions are due to loose rounds stored wherever around the turret, which you’d get in any vehicle if you had live rounds everywhere I suppose. Which sounds plausible.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 11 ай бұрын
EVERY vehicle in combat have rounds everywhere, unless they run out of them. Its first rule of combat, take as much as you can carry, because you never sure when new ammo appear and when you will need extra.
@wanderwale7512
@wanderwale7512 4 ай бұрын
Damn repairing tanks must be one dream of a job
@kingfish2703
@kingfish2703 11 ай бұрын
T-72 definitely has a gun stabilizer
@brendanukveteran2360
@brendanukveteran2360 Ай бұрын
The instruction plate says "Ted is in charge" + "Ted needs more treats" "Mr Hewes is too tall for this Object "
@johngaskins2290
@johngaskins2290 11 ай бұрын
I’m here for tanks and humor. You deliver both and I thoroughly enjoy it! Keep up the good work and what’s going on with concrete chieftain?
@afrikacorpse
@afrikacorpse 10 ай бұрын
Hi guys, you have so many comments that I know you won't see this one, but worth trying... The gunner apparently has a lever/switch/button that slews the turret to the 10 or 11 o'clock position, to move the gun away from his hatch to enable him to exit in an emergency. If you see this comment and still have the vehicle, it would be interesting to see this in action please! Thanks for the great video, looking forward to checking your channel out!
@speedypista9676
@speedypista9676 11 ай бұрын
WARNING That language is SLOVAK or SLOVAKIAN(Slovenčina) 1.When air pressure is above 16MPa in air system, close valves on bottles and open intake valves. 2. when filling cooling system with anti-freeze, switch, water anti-freeze set to anti freeze, when filling with water set to water. 3. Start driving at lower gears at cooling system temp. below 30 celsius. Driving at all gears is allowed at +55 celsius. 4. Don´t let oil be over 120 ceslius, water above +115 and anti freeze above +105 celsius. 5. Engine stop only at cooling system above 90 celsius. 6.when starting in winter after long time is necessary to double pump oil from KP according to instructions on exp o tacid(i dont know what that is) 7.when driving on gasoline from MIN. before starting engine tur on the pump BCN and hold hold the deflation valve button. Turn of BCN pum immediately after stopping. 8. when driving on 6 and 7 gear at 1900rpm and on 5 gear at 2000rpm gear selector isn´t blocking(warning light isn´t lit) use gearbox only to 5 gear. Thats pretty much all i could translate. some thing , i dont know if could be even translated. And that one thing in no.6 the plate was too damaged in that place. And as mechanic myself, I love to see just random bit and pieces scatter all over.
@bohuslavzeman4982
@bohuslavzeman4982 10 ай бұрын
Corectly!!! Its Slovak. Because this tank was made under license in Martin Slovakia. So its original Slovak Tank. :)
@SimDeck
@SimDeck 11 ай бұрын
Superb! looking forward to seeing you work on this engine. So interesting.
@МаксимАршинов-к2м
@МаксимАршинов-к2м 10 ай бұрын
“Three times” on gearbox select lever it’s acronym from Russian «ЗХ - Задний Ход».
@ruuman
@ruuman 11 ай бұрын
Got to love the unguarded fan by your legs, sums it up. Looks in lovely condition.
@MicMc539
@MicMc539 11 ай бұрын
Spot the Russian equipment newbie! Please engage brain before typing.
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 11 ай бұрын
When it runs, I would like to see the maximum reverse speed too 😅 By the way, these padded caps (dont call it helmet) will only protect ones head when all is calm. Blunt head trauma is guaranteed when going quick cross country and projectiles are flying around. These pads will do exactly nothing when you get thrown about in the tank.
@deadlad_
@deadlad_ 10 ай бұрын
My uncle operated one of these in Poland and he served in the military for a long time./ Idk if he was the driver or loader or what crew member but I know this is the tank he operated in. He passed away on christmas eve 2022 at age 52 due to a stroke unfortunately. Im glad this video came in my recommended.
@lucvader_1
@lucvader_1 11 ай бұрын
29:12 both T-72A and T-72M1 variants have duel plain stabilizers. 29:42 There are zero reports of this ever happening to T-72 crews.
@johnmcgregor3671
@johnmcgregor3671 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching you and the boys but I also enjoy what Bruce puts out and for the resto side every one should watch oz armor
@chopper7352
@chopper7352 11 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing mate. Cheers from Australia.👍
@nicholasantonis3887
@nicholasantonis3887 11 ай бұрын
Your humor is spot on! Keep up the great work on your videos and don’t change a thing, that’s why I love your channel.
@popkorncheff8801
@popkorncheff8801 11 ай бұрын
More Tank videos. doesnt matter which tank from any nation
@EwanWeetch
@EwanWeetch 11 ай бұрын
Great video as usual!
@mattjones6315
@mattjones6315 11 ай бұрын
Ohh my god. Im not claustrophobic but that tank, especially between the driver and commander seat certainly made me feel like i am now hahah
@CrazyKitBuilder
@CrazyKitBuilder 11 ай бұрын
But did you check fuel ⛽️ tank for gold bars 😂
@WWE2K22-WomensWrestling
@WWE2K22-WomensWrestling 9 ай бұрын
Regarding the cramped conditions, there are maximum crew height requirements. Generally only smaller men would be chosen as T72 crew. So for those selected to crew the tank, generally they would have sufficent space to avoid placing their arm infront of the autoloader. They would also have an easier time moving between compartments and escaping than you experienced in the video.
@-_Ekki
@-_Ekki Ай бұрын
War thunder made me forget how huge these things are lol
@basickarl
@basickarl 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for teaching me how to a drive a T-72M.
@anastaisaspeigl1409
@anastaisaspeigl1409 11 ай бұрын
i love the content! keep it up!!!
@Plebble
@Plebble 10 ай бұрын
i found your channel through this video.The T72 is such a good looking tank, never knew it was such a death trap though! Can't wait to see more videos of it!
@nitromyke
@nitromyke 11 ай бұрын
You guys are doing a great job with your channel!! The f*ckery is what's missing with the other armor channels! Keep up uploading the great content!!
@nudebaboon4874
@nudebaboon4874 11 ай бұрын
The stuff you lot do is brilliant!!! And the sense of humour is👌
@I_hunt_lolis
@I_hunt_lolis 10 ай бұрын
It does have a stabilizer tho
@FieldTeaV
@FieldTeaV 11 ай бұрын
You got a good shout out from Warren in a recent video on his channel (Western Truck and Tractor Repair). If you’ve mechanically impressed that man, you are doing alright. love your content.
@pcat1378
@pcat1378 11 ай бұрын
It amazes me how small they are in real life, especially after being on Challenger 2.
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 11 ай бұрын
Wait until you see a BMP-1 in person they're tiny, actual clown cars of the battlefield.
@philipcable437
@philipcable437 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the tank crew blender. More commonly known as the T72M. There's not room even to swing half a cat (used to be the commanders arm). Good to see Ted asserting his dominance over the unruly staff. "Good boy Ted!"
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 ай бұрын
When he humped his leg I was literally 😂🤣💀
@stuartp2006
@stuartp2006 4 ай бұрын
30:00 I remember seeing an interview with a Polish tank instructor and he said he always knew the loader monster could eat your arm, but he never saw it or heard of anyone seeing it happen (despite him being around a lot of careless conscripts, presumably). So they were aware of it, you just had to be passing the gunner a chocolate bar in the middle of combat while they were firing.
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