OLD LIFT - THE SWITCH ON! Camera angles and tech detail!

[@AndyCreepy27]

I rarely pass comment on KZbin videos, however having been a subscriber to your channel for a number of years now I have to say I'm highly impressed with the level of detail you go into when producing these videos. Please keep up the great work 😊

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Cool, thank you very much for your comment! As I've described in a few videos in the comments, my videos reflect on me, my talents, my 'attention to detail' and my personality. It's great to get feedback like this, people that notice the extra mile I go to, rather than just trying to upload as many videos as possible. I'm all about creating something that's interesting for my viewers to watch :) Thanks once again

[@sirensoftheunitedkingdom]

​​@@mrmattandmrchayI remember loving to always watch ur videos when I was younger forgot abt this channel abt 5 years I found one of ur videos in my for you page I watched alot of the Chernobyl vids

[@hw-of4pl]

I've rewatched this video many times since the day it was uploaded. The pride and effort you put in to making and editing these videos from start to finish is really, really respectable. Your videos are among the best introductions to the electromechanical world of the 1970's. Cheers, and keep up the remarkable work!

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Many thanks for your compliments. I actually watched it back for myself... yes memories of editing then reediting, then I have another idea which leads to more weeks editing, etc. But the end result is always worth it :)

[@elonmask50]

That was absolutely fabulous Mr Matt, well worth the wait.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

cool, glad you liked it! :)

[@peterlomas984]

That brings back memories, the clicking MH selector, brake lifting and retiring cams operating. Well done Matt.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Thanks Pete! Hope I did it justice!

[@peterlomas984]

@@mrmattandmrchay Oh yes! bring on part 3.

[@RediffusionMusic]

I do like your mention of you being a responsible channel. Good on you Matt.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Thanks! For me, the content that I upload reflects on me, my values and I hope that I'm inspirational to other people, but in the right way. Too many videos these days encourage kids to copy dangerous acts AS WELL as bad attitudes - good luck to them in future life with that. We've had plenty of engineers at work come and go with bad attitudes, thinking they are right all the time, won't listen to others - ends up with no-one wanting to with them and they are eventually fired.

[@pomonabill220]

Absolutely WONDERFUL!!!! You took ALOT of time to put this video together, and it REALLY shows! Thank You so much for your effort and detail!

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Cool, many thanks for your comment! Glad you liked it

[@desiiro]

This lift runs really nicely considering how old it is, and how it has been untouched for a long time. The retiring cam on these door operators always makes such a nice sound, there's one particular express I know of where the retiring cam is completely ruined and it makes a really loud bang when it engages, sometimes shaking the lift car a little bit. Unfortunately that said lift has got a little bit of a modernisation but luckily it still has some of its old components still there. Really nice editing, your videos are always enjoyable

[@Lift.Tracker]

Some of them have very quiet retiring cams, and others have super loud clunking ones. I assume they’re supposed to be quiet, but the loud clunking sounds really nice!

[@jcolbyt82]

I just now stumbled across your channel and I have to say I LOVE it!!! I really like the level of detail that you have for the operation of elevators. I have never seen the mechanisms that control the floor levels and the indicators on any other video. I’m fascinated by most mechanical things and especially by electrical things. I also have to know how things that I’m interested in work. It’s kind of hard sometimes to find the level of detail that I look for when trying to figure out how something works. I wish more people would do videos like yours for other subjects. Your editing is absolutely amazing! Thank you for spending the time that you do creating and sharing this information with us!!

[@TonyVRailfanning]

Being a relatively new subscriber I will repeat what many have said is your attention to detail and showing every possible angle is very much appreciated

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Massive compliment and I thank you very much for your comment.

[@luismpgomes]

Wonderful job! The waiting time was worth it! I'm glad you spend the time to edit the footage and show us this works. I have no connection to the lifts' business so without you I would never know how lifts work. Thanks so much! :-D

[@Lift.Tracker]

I’m very much the same. I’ve never seen either a lift car top or motor room up until recently, yet I still knew a lot about lifts before that. Having such knowledge is probably quite useless unless you are planning to get into that profession, but everyone has their own interests. :-)

[@38911bytefree]

Impressive work, camera and editing. You always go for the 10/10.

[@passacaglia28]

Seriously, though. Your videos are some of the most intriguing I have seen on KZbin

[@idl3k_elev]

Another excellent video. Those chattering relays and vanes sounds very satisfying! Also thanks for including the danger of lift surfing article link from my wiki.

[@migette1]

How nice to see the workings of these old GEC Express lifts using relays rather then solid state relays simular to what I used to work on in the telephone exchange and the power group would maintain the lifts in the exchange, thanks for an excellent vid. unlike some I have seen when kids were riding on counter weights etc. waiting for someone to be cut in half!!! Good video keep up the good work and thanks.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

I believe there is some connection between British Telecom and Express Lifts, as Express Lifts used telephone relays. Can't remember exactly the story, but yes, even now many still exist as the technical staff on site have the knowledge to fix them. Not sure if this is still the case. Kids surfing counterweights have picked this up from a particular person on youtube who used to meet up with kids (or perhaps he still does?), behaves like a kid himself, irresponsible, doesn't seem to know the difference between right and wrong and 'everyone else' is to blame when something goes wrong. I'm totally not surprised that kids are copying the stunts from this persons channel.

[@mrclucker1969]

Fantastic amount of detail as always - thank you. The older mechanical lift mechanisms are amazing to watch and that door mechanism was fantastic - my eyes kept being drawn to it.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Yeah, if you're not expecting it then the door gear is kind of weird! But it's so simple at the same time - MOTOR > BELT > GEAR BOX > DOOR ARM > which opens and shuts the door!

[@crocoland6330]

Were is/ was this lift was/ is the building derelict or the lift was switched off to be replaced by a new lift? You should revisit it if it’s possible so we can see if the lift is original or it has been modernized. Great video and very detailed!!!

[@jackal58590]

The door gear / arm etc set up good,also the floor selector , well done maintenance fitter.

[@waynephatg]

Matt, that is possibly one of the most interesting things I've ever seen. I'm blown away by the engineering and the fact there are no PCBs anywhere. Thankyou for your outstanding quality videos. It must take you hours and hours. Well done. Simply amazing.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Thanks for the comment, hours and hours, actually weeks and months! But this is taking into account I only really edit in my spare time, which is minimal at the moment!

[@grzejnikMilosz]

I was blown away seeing the elevator really starts to operate! That was unexpected

[@dykodesigns]

It runs really well, as if it’s practically new except for the indicator lamps and the slightly damaged door. They probably could put it back into service without much repairs.

[@SeanBZA]

Probably on a maintained shutdown schedule, where there is a monthly run up and down the shaft. Often used for a lift that is not needed, but where they might want to use it in future, and do not want to have the expense of recertifying the lift, or paying to have it taken out of service registration wise. If no longer in use typically power is cut, the car lighting is cut and the fuses are all removed, so it will no longer run if accidentally turned on.

[@CraigCanberra]

Incredible amount of editing work. Well explained. Thanks!

[@exafrost]

Very cinematic! Really appreciate the effort and time you put in on filming and editing this. Big fan btw.

[@b43xoit]

How is the choke wired to the motor, and under what circumstances, and for what purpose?

[@Bombiedude.]

I also like how even though you werent in the machine room when riding it normally you can still hear the big mechanical floor selector kick into life when the buttons got registered

[@mr.struppi9903]

Super Video Mr.Matt!!! Absolutely awsome!

[@PeteyPeteee]

i used to stay in a block of flats with a 15 floor OTIS lift. I used to hear this loud noise every night after the lift had not been used for about 1 hour, it sound like the weights moving and the cables shaking. Any idea what it was? I was right at the top of the flats and the lift used to live on the ground floor as default, any time you walked in the lift was there at the bottom (normally)

[@Petertronic]

Another video and audio editing masterpiece. There's something very satisfying about the cadence of the chattering relays and contactors.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

cool, thanks. Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@passacaglia28]

Matt, your video editing skills are the dog's ballocks! (From my American perspective, I hear that phrase means it is awesome - the bee's knees)

[@Bombiedude.]

2:46 when the doors are open the inner door litteraly sticks out like a sore thumb thats odd because even on old ones like this it shouldnt do that

[@martinda7446]

I found this fascinating. Loved watching the slow and stop sequence and imagining the feel inside the lift. The motor also has a brake operating on the drive shaft. The video shows it operating... Edit of course you marked the brake release switch...

[@videomentaryproductionschannel]

This was an excellent video, it's fascinating to see how many operations these electro mechanical relay systems have do in every day use on one of these old type lifts, and how reliable they really are, and great film, love your videos and appreciate the amount of work that goes into producing them 😀

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Cool, thanks very much for the comment :)

[@8skellerns]

Control switch gear looks identical to the one in the lift in Loughborough BT Telephone exchange.... Has character them old ones!

[@kl122002]

I have the same question too, why the lift was off for years? Is it now have been upgraded with computer controlled mechanics? And for some buildings I also notice this similar situation: the lift is being switched off for years , not renewing, not removing for years...why?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

A lift engineer friend of mine gave me the heads up on this one, but without enquiring (which we didn't want to do) we don't know why it was turned off. So can't answer I'm afraid :/ I guess because it's no longer required, or more like - MONEY! If it were to be used then break-downs cost money! I don't know

[@Ragnar8504]

I've seen lifts that have been out of service for the better part of a century and it usually boils down to one thing - money! One seems to have been taken out of service in the mid-1930s for no good reason at all, another around the same time because the house was sold and the new owners didn't think they needed it (at least that's our best guess why they'd take a lift out of service after less than ten years, we do know about the sale of the house), some were switched off when manual operator control was banned around WWII, some suffered war damage and were never repaired and some were turned off for good when the power network was converted from DC to AC in the 50s and 60s. The core issue was always money! Possibly the weirdest story was one that seems to have been converted from manual control to relays in the 20s but apparently something went wrong during the conversion and the lift was never turned on again. The landlord dynasty of that house is... a bit interesting. Old nobility and very much obsessed with money. Quite a fancy house but in a bad state.

[@icycoolstudios]

@@mrmattandmrchay where i work we have an old 57 Esco, it was installed by a company called Jolley of New Orleans which was an esco dealer, about 5 years ago the elevator got stuck and was never repaired, landlord said it would cost 100k to fix which is more than even a modernization but i looked (looked didn't touch anything) and no metal in the tank but low fluid, car is parked on the 3rd floor and has been for 2 years, albeit about 3 feet below the floor (city got mad that the safety cert expired and someone came and looked at it, and moved or surfed it from 1 to 3 and hasn't moved since, guy said he couldn't find anything wrong) i recently talked to the landlord and not being a tenant he gave me a different story, apparently he doesn't plan to keep the building through the decade cause the upstairs isn't profitable enough, and the maintenance costs wouldn't be worth it, plus the 1st tech most likely lied about the problem and in the 2 years half the tenants left upstairs, which is why its been out of service, so unfortunately money does seem to be a big factor in cases like this, pretty sure all that was wrong was the pump got cavitated from being low and considering it hasn't sunken anymore since it was parked its not an issue with the jack or piston bore, so sadly an easy fix, would love to see it run but cant win em all, if your curious what it looked like search "Elevator Veterans Building" and you'll see it before it broke, was a really cool all original black button esco

[@steve45678]

These old electro mechanical control boards are a work of art, designed when lift installations would last forever.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Totally agree

[@Aawsomeguy]

Steve Like I have said before. They don't make them like they use to.

[@StrawTech8]

what is the music on here 1:00 it sounds fairly interesting to me also nice lift you got working there!

[@rowan1261]

the music is cylinder four by chris zabriskie

[@StrawTech8]

@@rowan1261 thanks a lot

[@ag6371]

If this still works, then why is this turned off?

[@RODALCO2007]

This video footage and editing is outstanding.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Thank you very much :) All these videos take probably far longer than anyone else's, but to me, it's the result that counts.

[@peterlomas984]

Grease all divertor pulleys, lubricate guide rails and top up oil pots, strip down clean and lubricate brake assembly. Reassemble brake and test, check main ropes,check safety gear for free operation. Check gear box and motor bearing oil levels, run motor up to operational temperature and check floor levels, door gear and safety edge operation then return to service

[@MichalM]

Seems like it's not a hard job to get this thing back into service then! I wonder if parts for express lifts can be custom made as original parts are not available...

[@Lift.Tracker]

Michal M I believe you can get fake parts which would work. Probably not motors and stuff, but smaller things like door rollers or relays.

[@MichalM]

@@Lift.Tracker That would be good.

[@peterlomas984]

@@MichalM A fair few parts are available from Lift Components Ltd, contactor and relay coils and springsets. The MH selector is now obsolete and the electronic replacement is fitted. Pulley wheels and Machine sheaves are available but not the gears themselves .

[@MichalM]

@@peterlomas984 It seems like parts aren't that rare then which is interesting, I thought it would be very hard to find any part at all, other than the odd few which are in high demand.

[@MichaelAStanhope]

Maybe I missed it but why was the lift out of service in the first place? It seems to function perfectly save the floor position indicators.

[@user2C47]

The building may have been abandoned.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Hi Mike, nope, you've not missed anything. A lift engineer friend of mine gave me the heads up on this one, but without enquiring (which we didn't want to do) we don't know why it was turned off. So can't answer I'm afraid :/

[@b43xoit]

@@mrmattandmrchay Why don't you like to do?

[@SeanBZA]

That one has had upgrades, only Express elevators I have seen used a chute on the car itself, and a row of large change over switches in the shaft that controlled the functions, with the cam switches flipping state as the car passed, and a second chute that held a cam for stopping at floor level. Was a good day that got replaced with a new controller, that at least would not skip floors depending where you stood in the car.

[@mutzbunny]

the sound of switching relays is pretty satisfiing

[@Goasler]

i like it tooo 😍

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Yep and every manufacturer has it's distinctive sounds!

[@mutzbunny]

@@mrmattandmrchay I agree, but big relays sound more ridgit, and also more satisfying. More like a plonk nod a click😂

[@enzoperruccio]

How many years has it been off?

[@tizutitandula5638]

When does the next video come? I'm excited, no matter what it is.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Tonight hopefully!

[@Nate-hf8hm]

In the first part of the video what is the metal cover next to the main switch?

[@Lift.Tracker]

0:16 You mean the circular disc to the right? That’s a replacement flywheel. Used to hand wind the lift motor.

[@Nate-hf8hm]

@@Lift.Tracker thanks dude!

[@upanddownadventures]

Was there any evidence suggesting when the elevator last ran (i.e. a date of inspection or service/repair)?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

I didn't look to be honest.

[@dominicarceo9637]

What is that circular thing at the right of the isolation switch?

[@Alexis_du_60]

Looks like a hook for a padlock

[@Lift.Tracker]

I think it's a replacement flywheel. Something to attach to the motor to spin it manually if the power is lost.

[@SparkcatcherFox]

The hand winding wheel.

[@glat15]

This is a really good video Matt!

[@guylight2549]

I was out on the road today and happened to stumble upon this lift. It’s still there, but still turned off! 😫

[@ArthursLiftAdventures]

Amazing video! Also a jackson lift group engineer is sending me a express lift selector

[@peterlomas984]

What are you going to do with it? if you need any advice on the operation and adjustment just ask i think i can help you.

[@Lift.Tracker]

Have you got it now?

[@ArthursLiftAdventures]

@@Lift.Tracker Nope the engineer absolutely wasted my time and failed on the agreed promise

[@BertoldBR74Roux]

Great video! Fascinating footage.

[@vancouverelevators_transit]

That motor is epic! And so is the whole video.

[@patrick7447]

Why you turned the Power back off?

[@user2C47]

Because that's the way it was when he found it. If the power was left on, it would have been using power for nothing.

[@ag6371]

He wants to respect the staff of the building in case they come inside

[@jorihiukka6483]

cause it is turned off on purpose (which idk).

[@upanddownadventures]

The elevator was turned off when he found it, and it would have been turned off for a reason.

[@guineagirl5078]

Your videos 📹 are very interesting. So much time and effort goes into them. 👌

[@aronslegogbcs1057]

interesting video, that circuit that controls the stop relay sequence is a AND gate i believe as it requires both inputs to be true for the output to stop the motor from slowing speed

[@LiftyGamez]

You must be very lucky to have filmed this many lifts in such detail! I never get the chance to film almost any at all like this.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Just out of interest, how old are you? I'm just asking because, only from becoming an engineer (not in the lift industry) did it give me a lot more access to lifts. Some of our controllers are in motor rooms, which is the perfect excuse! It took me to about 20 years old before I started seeing motor rooms.

[@LiftyGamez]

@@mrmattandmrchay I'm 15 this year, which is probably why I never got to experience many of such experiences. And the relays for the lift in this video do somewhat resemble the relays on older Mitsubishi lifts. My guess is because both Express and Mitsubishi had a technical partnership with Westinghouse, so all 3 companies have similarities in their designs.

[@MasenMonster]

Perhaps make a part 3 where you fix the broken indicator.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Good idea and I have plenty of spare lamps as well! :) I'll give it some thought!

[@MasenMonster]

@@mrmattandmrchay thx!

[@Bombiedude.]

This actually looks in really good shape for being installed in the 70s because normally they look all run down and dusty maybe this one was just maintained very well or it had the equipment redone at a later time

[@Bombiedude.]

Well that was a good sign as soon as you pressed the call button and the indicator lit up

[@danielsirbu4191]

Why does the lift have cables under?

[@Lift.Tracker]

That’s to power/control everything inside the lift car. It’s to power the doors, the lights, control the indicators and pass calls to the motor room when you press the buttons.

[@misterwint]

Great video and so worth the wait.

[@mtristepin]

1:58 wouldn’t be afraid to ride it, because assuming the lift engineer took his square key with him, he can unlock the doors if you get trapped in it ^^

[@syaz4380]

How did Chay exactly almost lost an eye?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

It's an incident that I will never forget. He was sitting on our steps in the garden, which were lower than the grass. I was cutting the grass with Chay 4 metres away from the blades, level with them. If I'd known, then I would have told him to move!! Anyway, the unthinkable happened, the mower went over a stone and shattered it. Fragments shot out and one hit him 1CM under his eye. All I heard was a low 'AWWwwuhhh'. The time it took for me to put the mower down and be with him seemed to take ages, but it was only a few seconds. We called an Ambulance out and found just how lucky he was not to lose his eye. OMG, will never forget it. He still has the scar, although it's only a slight one. My message was - kids have to learn everything, if I was Chay then I'd be thinking "maybe I shouldn't sit here because...", but Chay being 10 years old didn't, because they hazard and danger perception has to be learnt. Chay learned the hard way this time. I'll put some photos on my KZbin Community page sometime to show you how lucky he was.

[@gamerone996]

Wonder why the power to that building was left on.

[@Goasler]

Maybe they just switched off the lift for safety reasons or because it was no longer beautiful or modern enough for them. The building can still have another use.

[@DandyDon1]

I always think of old Lifts (Elevators) having DC hoist and door motors. None of this modern 3-phase stuff ;)

[@LaPatateDouce]

hey Matt ^^ this video is great, like all the others, and everything is very well explained thanks to the animations and the on-off representation of the contactors ^^ Thank you also for your slow motion, it really helps to understand:) I love your videos matt

[@NANA-jt4dq]

This video was great, now one of my favourites.

[@Goasler]

1. a new Video 😍. 2. its soooo great😍😍😍😍

[@rose-ey6ct]

That's not an old Express lift. It is, in relative terms, modern. An old Express lift will have an SMS badge, (Smith, Major and Stevens), and be DC powered, with an up/down lever and self levelling on coming to floor. Acceleration steps will be driven by a chain off the main sheave shaft.

[@jshawbitter]

Hellfire video mate it's megga very interesting

[@ryandavies2876]

Brilliant video!! Keep it up!

[@abpsd73]

As usual, another impressive video.

[@zordmaker]

Mate this thing could sit for 500 years, get switched back on and it would still work.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Absolutely!

[@dave-j-k]

Fascinating stuff, love relay logic :)

[@sarahcraft2284]

Guys I was in a roblox game a long time ago and there was old lifts I come back now and it’s disgusting modern otis

[@EEverything360]

Yes! A part 2! This was the first comment on this video. Just so people know when they see it.

[@christopher-2000]

awesome lift video

[@RiotRetroGaming]

Great stuff! 😃

[@dr.sreepriyad8253]

Can't understand anything very confusing but very good editing u have putted a lot of work in editing

[@Aawsomeguy]

Yes. A bottom mounted geared drive machine.

[@ag6371]

That floor selector can be heard miles away

[@Max-9632]

Finally a part 2

[@scottsliftsX1]

Have you ever safety broken a lift

[@OliversElevators]

3:08 ahem, Beno.

[@MichalM]

Ahem, why do you think I don't watch the disrespectful tamperer lol?

[@MichalM]

@@Lift.Tracker Glad you agree, take a look at the comments section of my most recent video for a bit more detail lol

[@MichalM]

@@Lift.Tracker Lol I'm glad you agree it's entertaining! Hopefully more people will find it entertaining in the future!

[@southern.spotter]

AWESOME RELAYS

[@jameswest8280]

If I go to heaven, I hope I get to go all over and explore old machines.

[@gman83090]

I seriously don’t get why they would turn off a perfectly good functioning lift

[@8skellerns]

Probably its safety inspection lapsed, so just turned it off, or its in a unused building.

[@gman83090]

Wouldn’t they be require to have lift turned on because of ada compliance

[@MrSpacelyy]

That's one loud clicking lift

[@Lighting_Desk]

Beautiful peice of engineering. Why was she shut off?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Absolutely! I don't have that information i'm afraid.

[@imsmart.]

The Relay Orchestra.

[@jdtayloruk]

More needs to be done to stop kids doing this, e.g. two door locks and it goes into the wall to ensure it’s secure.

[@drphipshiolidge]

beno would have loved this!!

[@mrmattandmrchay]

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[@Stomj]

yesss

[@babjee332]

motor elevator in under elevator

[@hariranormal5584]

How is this bottom drived wow

[@Zack-yb8gu]

😂🎉😅😊 so happy

[@hariranormal5584]

beutifully creepy

[@jp-alarms]

Hi

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

Super loud

[@babjee332]

Bro

[@johnhershey4010]

Putty neat