We NEED To Talk About THAT Game Rip-off...

[@MrMattyPlays]

Just wanted to pin a quick comment on what I said about the following footsteps mechanic in Horizon: To me, as I say in the video, this game was the peak of me noticing the trend. Not starting it. By that, I mean it was prevalent in multiple games and this was the one where I had the moment of going “wow, they’re doing this a lot.” I could’ve worded it better, for sure, because Witcher was before Horizon, so my b on that. For people who think I say it cause I hated the game, you should probably just check out my review when the game dropped ❤

[@KrofisPlays]

Obligatory mention that Palworld isn't Pokemon with survival mechanics, It's ARK: Combat Evolved with Pokemon-esque monsters for your bidding.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

You're not wrong about gameplay, but saying they're only pokemon esque is a bit of a stretch. They have some designs that straight up take the exact same geometry from pokemon models, people compared it in modeling software. This was news when the game came out. It's much more blatant than just being pokemon-esque. I don't think there is anything wrong with enjoying Palworld gameplay but let's not pretend like they didn't rip off several pokemon designs

[@DavionAngeles]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 The person that compared the models admitted they edited the models to align, because they where mad at Pocket Pair.

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

@@irecordwithaphone1856, as already pointed out, that was false because the person was mad, and sure, things are going to look similar when basing the designs on real world things. How many ways are there to really do a Deer? A dragon? A sheep? You get the picture,

[@nothing001-z3p]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 The person who said that already admitted they made that up.

[@OfficialNice]

@@irecordwithaphone1856the designers literally showed their original designs, they really aren’t Pokémon at all. Pokémon are just real life animals (for the majority) so how is that a rip off? Making elemental type animal designs aren’t copyrighted and that’s the whole reason Pokémon is suing based on terrible patents that would never hold weight in America

[@soonforget]

Wrong to say that Horizon was at the forefront of “follow the footsteps” and that Witcher followed that trend. Witcher 3 came out two years prior, so if anything it’s the other way around.

[@josephbuchanan2319]

Yeah but for some reason you can’t say anything negative about Witcher 3

[@MikeHeldTheWorld]

​@@josephbuchanan2319Witcher 3's combat sucks. It's the main reason why I haven't replayed it since 2015. The story and world is amazing but the moment to moment gameplay just isn't that good.

[@DV-ou1yu]

Exactly lol

[@logiclunacy606]

​​@@josephbuchanan2319 For me personally, telling me where all the questlines are turned them into a shopping list of task which was part of why I dropped it.... But yes Witcher 3 has some very strong aspects just following the line vision isn't one of them.

[@Scattman101]

@@MikeHeldTheWorld The combat is part of the reason why I keep returning to it lol. There are so many different abilities and equipment to choose from. You just gotta experiment more and not just spam the same buttons.

[@Moderation_Dodger]

I hope developers do clone more games. Give us the Elder Scrolls & Fallout clones that Bethesda won't... WoW too.

[@smileyday]

Nobody: Why buy the 5 most popular games when I can have them all in one? Tencent: Say less

[@Gears1996]

Dude just said " the witcher 3 went on to copy Horizon Zero Dawn" Brother the witcher came out 2 years earlier.....

[@SilverKitten10000]

So Horizon copied the Witcher?

[@ZimpanX]

@@SilverKitten10000 Yeah you could say that, and the Guerilla that created the first Horizon consisted of some ex-CDPR devs

[@JorisJoestar]

It's crazy how people nowadays openly brag about their lack of listening comprehension. He obviously said that Witcher is an example of the "following the foot steps trend" and that Horizon was at the peak of that era. Not that Horizon came first

[@Erynash]

Patenting videogame mechanics is an asinine concept that should be abolished altogether. As for the ripoff game, I'm not playing it. I don't respect this lack creativity.

[@nickh4354]

wow big strong man very strong very cool me so happy for you

[@faizjumaify]

@@nickh4354 Beta!

[@KruxSmash]

I don't care so long as the game is fun. Devs have been making copy paste survival games since Ark, nobody complained about those, but now it's an issue because it looks like their favorite IP's. Don't care, gonna play it.

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

Meanwhile everyone wants a studio to make an "ark" that actually cares and can compete with it, because WC is a complete shit-show who clearly don't care about their fanbase lol.

[@pdraggy]

I'd play it... if it actually looked fun though.

[@Bambeakz]

Exactly. Gaming for 30+ years and seen a lot of clones and blender games in my life. I can't care less as long as I have fun playing.

[@majorgear1021]

This!

[@Sir_Slimbread]

I think it's fine depending on the extent of the copying. This game copying attack patterns and animations while also making other stuff 1:1 is taking it a bit too far.

[@GearDiego23]

I do hate Tencent; its like parasyte company just eating from every other game company just by existing.

[@lemming9984]

So. Just like EA, Activision, Ubislop then?

[@RobbieB2606]

Digital Foundary just covered this - the cinematics / art style are a 1:1 rip off, but the gameplay looks completely different (and much more like Ark than HZD).

[@StratumPress]

Digital Foundry are goobers.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

​@@StratumPressThe bad takes keep coming from you, not surprised

[@Teja]

@@StratumPressthe only goober is you with your terrible takes goober

[@marcethier4362]

It's a specific strategy. they wait for the west to do the expensive heavy lifting, and they come in to copy after. I'm not just talking video games.

[@TitusKingdom]

Happy to see im not the only one saying this. It's apart of Chinese culture, its what they do. Been doing it for a VERY long time

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

​@@TitusKingdomI remember Top Gear showing off all chinese knock off cars being sold in china.

[@coolmr3]

That’s China’s way ! Lol

[@pdraggy]

OFC it's not just against the west, it's against anybody, Japan, Russia, even themselves- it's just what China does.

[@prastagus3]

@@TitusKingdom it's not really but we all learn starting from the process of imitation, improvement, and then innovation. They started the modern era at a very low bar, just catching up which they mostly have done. But feel free to think otherwise by stereotyping all of China base upon one gaming company.

[@josephbuchanan2319]

Bro you’re just being biased against PlayStation for blaming Horizon for “following the footsteps” trend, Witcher 3 came out 2 years before Horizon and ME Andromeda released the same year as Horizon. Andromeda and Zero Dawn was influenced by The Witcher not the other way around

[@rayw1100]

I thought he said that it was in the rough time period as both of those? That they were all in the rough period that a lot of games were using it at that time?

[@haroldasusus4684]

Lame AAA game gets lame Chinese rip off. YAWN

[@andrewhewitt275]

Whether it's illegal or not, it's distasteful and there needs to be some sort of pushback. We have a real risk of stagnation in the industry if there becomes a trend of successful games that are blatant copycats down to the freaking movesets.

[@MrRaheninm]

You talk as if we are in the epitome of gaming creativity, the industry is alredy stagnant, this is just the logic conclusion the market will decide if this is good or not, if it come out and people play it it will stay

[@Odder-Being]

I have been gaming for 35+ years and to me almost everything has been done 10x over. It's pretty hard to do something really unique. So i don't really care if stuff gets copied. If it plays well looks good i am fine with it.

[@tonyfava2944]

ya about the same, if i complained every time something wasn't "orginal" i would never be able to play games. its like people forget most of this stuff is just slight changes or tweaks from something before

[@MassiveGhost-]

Look, I saw that you can build your own robot creatures to ride so this game already won me over

[@WarriorVII]

I hear you, but this is a shameless asset/animation rip from numerous other games. This is precisely what's wrong with certain gaming studios and we shouldn't support it. It does us NO good in the long run to support practices like this.

[@matthewwebster3143]

@@WarriorVII thank you it should matter because when folks dont care we get these watered down games and then they wonder why video games suck these days they can blame themselves for not caring.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

​@@matthewwebster3143People say talk/vote with your wallet and that's what people should do

[@headphonedust]

@@WarriorVII Who cares, all art is derivative. Every artist learns by literally copying from someone else. If it's good it's good.

[@colmarek]

@@WarriorVII I don't think you know what an asset rip is.

[@SUPERTROOPER89]

Ah the peoples republic version of respect for IP and copyrights

[@headphonedust]

Ah yes, look we have the son of Mr Horizon and the nephew of Mr Zero Dawn here

[@Rex-ww4cw]

The irony you said that when the United Americas copy Tiktok with KZbin Shorts and Instagram Reels and no one seems to condemn them of copying.

[@Kuoropoika1]

It's not about the mechanics, copying them is pretty normal. But for this game, just LOOK at it. It is abnormally similiar to Horizon. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but you'd have to be crazy not to see why people see this as a ripoff.

[@William89809]

As a musician...Art, Music, Games, Movies, etc.....ALL gather inspiration from what was popular in the past. There are ONLY so many concepts, sounds, visuals, etc that we can come up with. repeating the past in inevitable in most areas...

[@TheArchevil]

Horizon stole the glider bit from Zelda. Souls copies are running rampant. Borrowing what has been proven succesful can only make a good game better.

[@silent_deprival]

A games value is based on innovation over adoption. The game will need to add or improve something or players will tire from it quickly. Its capitalism 101.

[@TheArchevil]

@@silent_deprival Everything in your comment was an arbitrary statement. The people decide a game's value through different metrics than a capitalist would. And even the people would disagree on the metrics. Where you say 'innovation' the vast majority of the people would use 'fun' as the most important metric. Which means that innovation matters less when the game is fun. It doesn't quite work the other way around.

[@nhanon67as]

@@silent_deprivalthe best selling games literally don’t change a thing. COD, FIFA madden

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

Not unless the mechanic actually fits within the rest of the game's design

[@randychristensen1028]

And yet not a single Souls clone has come remotely close to the level that From's games are at

[@playnicegames]

@4:10 Witcher came out before Horizon

[@ChodaBoyUSA]

I have never understood the appeal of the Horizon games, but I am glad some people enjoy them. I think companies like Tencent and Embracer are a serious threat to the games industry.

[@pacmonster066]

It's even more like Palworld's situation than you described. From the initial Palworld trailer people were just memeing on it because it looked like "pokemon with guns" and just a blatant rip off of Pokemon. But when Palworld came out, it plays almost nothing like Pokemon, with the only Pokemon-like functionality being the monster catching in what are basically pokeballs. Other than that, the game plays almost exactly like Ark with a sprinkling of Breath of the Wild thrown in (which this game also does). Also, like this game lifting the animations straight from Elden Ring, Palworld also lifted like exact locations from there...for no reason, as there's really no point to going to any specific location in PalWorld. It's actually wild how eerily similar both games are in more than just concept. I will add, that for all the blatant stealing of game concepts, this is an extraordinary amount of effort that seems to have gone into the game. Like 99.9% of ripoffs are low effort asset flips, but while nothing in this game seems original, people still had to make the things that look like the other games' things. None of it is like game assets brought in from other games, somebody had to art design, 3D model, music compose, etc all these things to look the way they did.

[@arenkai]

Regardless of if the game is "good" or even "better" than Horizon, I hate the precedent that it sets. You have people that worked tirelessly to deliver a unique setting, that created something new, and having another company completely rip off their aesthetic is shameful and seriously disgusting. The lack of respect for their fellow creator is despicable.

[@MrRaheninm]

Whom Whomp

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

Something tells me you're the type who is okay with companies patenting Game Mechanics and no one being able to use them for basically 2 decades because of it (IE nemesis system in shadows of Mordor is legit locked until 2035 because of it).

[@hass556]

@@MrRaheninmdon’t complain when they patent stuff. Whomp whomp.

[@alderoth01]

I'm gonna try it. I dont have a dog in corporate fights. I just play games.

[@jond7691]

8:10 to be fair, explosive barrel next to grouped enemies has been a game staple for decades. And ‘defeat group of enemies, get loot chest’ is just as old. Not saying the game isn’t ripping everyone and their mum off, just some things were tropes long ago.

[@Bambeakz]

This is why courts exist. Not my problem if it looks like another or a mix of games. If it is fun and good I will play it. And this adds things I normally like so I really hope it is good.

[@noleenole8254]

I want people to make good games. Not enough of those. Don’t care how they do it.

[@PlayfulFruitLPer]

Devs aren't making games because they have their own ideas and visions. They're doing it to cash in on other successful ideas that people have done before AND better than them.

[@thebreadman2467]

Honestly if this type of thing forces AAA developers to compete and do better then it's a good thing and if all for it

[@richardmartinez5040]

I don’t see how it could. Palworld was different bc it was stealing from Gamefreak who had been sitting on their hands and refused to evolve their formula. This is stealing aesthetics from Guerrilla Games whose art and world were carefully and lovingly constructed. You’d be creating competition for a company that already has integrity. Supporting these practices is actually anti-competitive and lends to a culture of imitation to the point of oversaturation. This one is even stealing elements from Palworld as well, it doesnt know what it wants to be and should not be setting any standards for other companies to follow

[@thewinterwoods]

China is gonna China

[@headphonedust]

Sinophobes gonna sinophobe

[@WarriorVII]

I with you - I don't get the Horizon hype. It seems overblown. Really enjoyed Zero Dawn, and started but didn't get far in the new one. These games are solid open world scavengers, which I typically like. But let's be honest - beyond the machine combat (which can be pretty sick), there's not really anything in that series that is revolutionary to justify the attention it gets from some outlets. I did NOT understand the Lego version, but hey, whatever. This is just a blatant rip-off however, and between this and Delta Force, it's beginning to concern me that Tencent is just going to keep doing this simply because they don't give AF. It's also going to just give ammunition to the stereotypical Chinese copy+pasta argument. Even if they are good games, I don't like the idea of a company just ripping off everyone else's artistic vision with no consequences. Be surprised if they're not sued eventually, just not sure how that would be navigated precisely

[@AmirSylvane]

Some people: THEY BORROWED SO MUCH! Average gamer: Is the game fun or not?

[@thedudefromthesun]

another person talking about this game? lol you know they actually are perfectly fine with western media talking about this game because its free marketing for them lol most gamers are casual and this game targets that market. as long as the game is fun and addictive nobody will care about the fact it has some Horizon paint on it or the fact it borrows from other games...the gameplay is nothing like Horizon. its just another in long line of survival games nothing more and nothing less. to give this game so much attention is a joke imo. btw i don't get why people are so high on the Horizon series. because imo it doesn't really deserve it. they are good games overall but people are acting like it belongs in the pantheon of gaming or something. seems like all the PS fanboys overrate this series a lot.

[@liamharrington6672]

The only rip off is that a publisher wants to make a game, deliberately not sell it to customers, only support the narrowest window of platforms that is physically possible to support, and then pout and wine when a more competent developer takes your idea, and brings it to the masses. Sells it to the people you refuse to sell to. Fills a void in the market that a billion dollar company explicitly, willingly, leaves wide open all in their desperate hope that you will over pay for their 800$ "exclusive" console. LOL.

[@Seffyzero]

I can't bring myself to care, honestly. More games like Horizon is straight up just a good thing.

[@matthewwebster3143]

because not caring is easier right? it should matter but this is why they can get away with this stuff.

[@ryancialone3045]

Never create anything please

[@StratumPress]

@@matthewwebster3143 Get away with what?

[@matthewwebster3143]

@@ryancialone3045 exactly!

[@matthewwebster3143]

@@StratumPress get away with making these watered down games that dilute good video games we should care about these things because one day when video games have gotten so bad we can look back and blame these rip off games as to how we got even worse games come down the road.

[@chris-098]

So you're telling me that The Witcher 3 copied Horizon? Damn i didn't know that, and it came out 2 years before Horizon, so that's gotta be some insane rip-off skills lol.

[@ustav85]

The island being released is actually 6 times bigger than the island that was released back in the summer update not since the game was released. You might have misremembered or misspoken Matty so I forgive you 🎉

[@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623]

The copy-paste of Horizon’s art direction and Elden ring’s boss moves makes me uninterested in the game as an initial reaction.

[@LISSoundtrack]

I really could not give a fuck about who ripped off who... If the game is good I'm gonna play it.. let the companies fight over it all whilst I enjoy the games. Also, it's funny because Horizon stole the idea from Enslaved: Odyssey of the west.

[@StratumPress]

It's just a game. Nothing is original. Super Mario is a ripoff of Popeye. Batman is a ripoff of the Shadow. Star Wars is a ripoff of Dune. A game about a woman fighting robots isn't original. In fact, the "ripoff" looks more interesting to me than the "original".

[@Metranomix]

Difference here is that the entire distinctive VIBE of Horizon is being ripped off, not just the 'tribe person with robots' base. Those examples you gave are more set-dressing, Super Mario being a ripoff of Popeye? Cool, but Mario doesn't look like Popeye in a plumber suit.. Here the music is being ripped off, the armour is being ripped off and the creatures are CERTAINLY being ripped off. This all culminates in just a very blatant/line treading and egregious product. Now the new systems/building and ridable creature ideas in this game seem quite unique and I'll give it that, but this is just an easy way for them to grab market share from an already established IP.

[@wyliesalimeno9602]

They should just call it a parody. It worked for Space Balls.

[@StratumPress]

@@Metranomix The Horizon game didn't produce anything original. Not robot designs. Not character designs. Not setting designs. Not a thing.

[@vikram5491]

There's ripoff, and then there's blatant copy paste.

[@DV-ou1yu]

​@StratumPress It literally has its own art style though

[@rayw1100]

Putting the “similarities” with other game design aside for a moment. What I heard of the story seemed interesting. I also like the fact that the MMO aspect isn’t, “Forced”. It was mentioned that you can play the story as a single player.

[@proggz39]

What’s really sad is that this game can blatantly copy what came before and effortlessly do it better

[@gargoyle9624]

With this logic, pong was the first video game on a digital console so all other games ever are evil copies.

[@rhythmmandal3377]

Horizon Zero dawn + Elden Ring + Destiny + Fallout 4.

[@christophermiller129]

In the near future no one can make any new games because all the big businesspeople will sue you for copyright if your game features are somewhat similar. This game is actually closer to Ark survival than horizon anyway so if anyone wanted to sue it should be Studio Wildcard. ARK did the settlement thing with the pets before Pallworld. People need to chill. Let the game come out give it time to show its self-off then make a fuss about it if there is even a need too. If everyone sued over every little thing then we would never get anything new.

[@leonhart7306]

Palworld ripped off Pokemon and ARK (and is being sued). Temtem ripped off Pokemon and isn't being sued. Pokemon ripped off early Shin Megami Tensei games. Mihoyo's Genshin did it to BotW, Kuro's Wuthering Waves did it to Genshin (after Mihoyo's HI3rd ripped off Bayonetta, and Kuro's PGR ripped off HI3rd). Tower of Fantasy also ripped off Genshin, it just did a really bad job of it. Grey Zone Warfare and a few others ripped off Tarkov. Dark and Darker did it to Project P3, Dungeonborne did it to Dark and Darker... Yeah, I honestly just don't care about the ripoff stuff at all anymore. If the game is good I'll play it, if its not I'll ignore it, and if there's some issue of IP violation the companies involved can figure it out.

[@sjones8832]

Matty how do you feel the Rangers are doing this year? Have you been to a game yet? Love the videos bud 🇨🇦

[@MrMattyPlays]

I lost confidence when we got whopped by Florida in the playoffs and the best we could do after that run was sign Reilly Smith. Hoping Drury figures things out at the deadline, but the team looks lifeless on the ice. :(

[@TCharles-hf1yc]

Games are both inventions and art. The person who invented the wristwatch wouldn't sue the guy who invented the smartwatch cuz that was the next step in the technology. Game mechanics are inventions, and they need to say free from legal issues so they can have space to grow and evolve for the consumer. But when you steal the literal look and art style of another game, you admit you have no creativity. Cash grabs like this need to be sued by companies for the right reasons (copying art). And not because it has a better Dodge animation than horizon. Protect your art, sony. But leave the mechanics out of it.

[@xannylarusso3289]

@00:56 correction, it's not six times bigger than the original island, it's six times bigger than Sakurajima, the island that was added in the last major update. The new island won't be bigger than the entire original landmass; that would be insane.

[@AyZeD]

While i dont like tencent, the western AAA game industry does need replacing

[@seanguinn]

At least their Aloy is attractive

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

This is pathetic

[@oblivioustouch9012]

I honestly couldn’t care less about the Horizon franchise. Not my type of game and doesn’t inspire anything in me to seek it out. I am completely dumbfounded to the seemingly success of this franchise and who loves it that much…. Like the souls-like genre isn’t my type of games but I understand the appeal.

[@gavo7911]

Horizon’s one singular cool aspect that separates it from any other generic Ubisoft-tier open world is the robot dinosaurs. So if another studio wants to take a crack at robot dinosaurs in another format, they can go right ahead. Hell, a Monster Hunter-style RPG with robots as the monsters would be awesome.

[@chrgeorgeson]

Agree but you have to admit... They didn't just take a crack at it they took the art design from horizon. Maybe that's OK but to me I just look at it and think it's unoriginal. With that said I'd give it a try and see if it's good.

[@SimuLord]

Horizon also has some fantastic writing and worldbuilding, which isn't surprising when you realize it has the same head writer (John Gonzalez) as Fallout: New Vegas.

[@gavo7911]

@@chrgeorgeson Oh yeah, it is BLATANTLY a Horizon ripoff lmao. It would’ve been better if they made the environments and character designs at least a little different.

[@tonyfava2944]

robot dinosaur rpg's and such are old, wish zoids would come back as a giant semi open world game

[@majorgear1021]

just like the robot dinosaurs in Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.

[@kokroucz]

You're wrong but don't worry I thought the same some time ago "Sony Interactive Entertainment is the world's largest video game company, followed by Tencent and Microsoft Gaming. Out of the 59 largest video game companies, 14 are located in the United States, 11 in Japan, and 7 in South Korea." Wikipedia - biggest publishers in 2024. It's common to think Tencent is the biggest even Luke from another big channel thought that. After all they seem to be everywhere

[@kanaria-cu3uv]

imagine if embracer group calls all fantasy games "a lord of the rings rip-off"

[@rhinostove]

This game looks much better than Horizon.

[@dp27thelight9]

Tencent is intentionally starting a lawsuit with Sony.

[@landonperez7521]

I think you need a few more chains Matty, those are rookie numbers, you need to bump those numbers up

[@Archfeind22]

Both horizon and its sequel are great games . If you do get a chance to try forbidden west you should the world is so beautiful.

[@mrm7058]

Tencent is such a big company ... and they can't come up with something original?

[@jonas8993]

Ironically it's because it's a big company that they don't come up with something original.

[@mrm7058]

@@jonas8993 They need a template/some inspiration? Tencent is a Chinese company. China has a long and eventful history. It also has a lot of folklore and fairytales, and I am sure there is something that can be used for a videogame, that hasn't been used yet. Black Myth Wukong just proved that this can work (ironical made by former Tencent employees)

[@jonas8993]

@@mrm7058 Yeah I agree and ideas are infinite anyways. They could make a cyberpunk equivalent for china, or some other fantasy game with chinese lore, or absolutely anything else. But the point is, when a solo dev or a small team decides to make a game, 99% of the time even if they do wanna make money, they're doing it out of passion, wanting to make something cool to show their friends and family. So they're gonna make something unique. Tencent is a corpo. If they make something unique it's a coincidence.

[@edponpon]

Nintendo wishes Pokemon was as good as Palworld.

[@suighrafa]

To be honest, the "originals" they're copying are kinda generic too... If you look under a microscope most of games are not original either. If the copy is better than the original I'll play the copy, I don't care.

[@Spamkromite]

When the "bootleg" looks much better and fun than the sources from where it drew inspiration and assets (and I say that because China has bought plenty of templates from western companies, many of them being illegally sold by members of their staff like it happened with that guy at Blizzard who sold behind the backs of the employees all of their rejected art-work and other assets they were forced to churn DAILY -- imagine producing 40 iterations of assets and only 5 were kept, and this guy sold the rest for quite a buck to the Chinese companies).

[@Ozz3605]

When i saw that game i said to myself the same thing you did. It looks like someone did an A.I prompt . They also have Digital Extreme ( Warframe,Soulframe)

[@dennisevans913]

In 2014 or 15 (it's been a while) I sold a box of computer games dating back to the early 90's (dos) and tons of games that were from the late 90's early 2000s. Approximately 270ish games in all like Myth the original bungie game you should check out, and my copies of BG1 and 2 and IWD 1 &2 and Torment, my original disc of Legacy of Kain, so many good things I wish I had saved now. I could give you tons of suggestions my brother. Keep up the good work here. Much love.

[@leondelafonte]

I really wouldn't care less what's borrowed or stolen. Good art is all stolen from somewhere.

[@eyesore21]

Looks about as interesting as Horizon…which isn’t much to me. Wish Sony would let them make literally anything else.

[@scrubsscrubs694]

You are running out of time to watch the Indiana Jones trilogy before the game comes out

[@jdball87]

I think once you see the gameplay it looks different enough from Horizon. I think the cover art is what shaped the strong connection to Horizon. The cover art definitely looks way too close to Horizon.

[@stephen_ne8406]

palworld did not do a single original thing, this game copying palworld means absolutely nothing

[@heman2379]

Why should anyone care about this? It looks fun. Why would I care if they rip off a billion dollar company’s games

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

Horizon is just awesome aestheticcally. Cyber dinosaurs and post apocalypse is a unique twist no one has really delved into before and the story was pretty interesting being set after the world actually did completely end and that was the plan.

[@statixfear]

Tbf, Palworld may have started as a blatant ripoff of Pokemon... but they did pivot to become their own thing, over time. Yes, the core mechanics are the same... but the recent content they've been dropping looks nothing like what they were supposedly ripping off. I'd imagine this new game is also doing the same thing. They're using the uncanny resemblance to Horizon, and borrowing ideas and systems from other games, to establish their baseline. Since this is a live-service game, they'll probably pivot away from the similarities as well, given enough time. Or they could potentially just ripoff even more games in the future... who knows at this point. But from what limited gameplay I've seen so far, it looks fun, which is how Palworld basically got their footing as well.

[@JH-pj8nw]

If it's like Horizon but I can play it while broke af then I'm here for it.

[@MillerTheOriginal]

It looks like a souls-like in the Horizon universe. I dont see what the problem is? EDIT - I see the problem. Actually annoyed me at how someone can happily say yeah, I wanna completely copy someone else and have no new ideas myself. Shameful

[@ethan-scott]

Even that sprint animation is copied, Jesus Christ

[@Pedone_Rosso]

Can you imagine this free to play game's director, when artists bring their work in progress to the table for review? "No-no-no-no-NO! Can't you see it's not exactly the same visuals as Horizon Zero Dawn's? Was I not clear enough? Would you prefer to go looking somewhere else for a payed working position?" ... And the artists' heart being visibly crushed some more, with creativity and artistic aspiration being sucked out of their soul. I mean: it's not just the work and ideas of the original material's authors being stolen. It's also both video-game developers and players alike, being robbed of any sense of discovery, innovation, ... magic. Thanks for your videos!

[@David72899]

Talk about Avowed’s racist art director

[@SyncWithSam1]

shut up

[@gavo7911]

Why would he waste his time with a nothingburger story? Boo hoo, a white guy made fun of other white guys, big deal. We talk about games here, sir.

[@StratumPress]

@@gavo7911 So racism is okay, then? Gotcha.

[@StratumPress]

Matty won't. Anything that isn't "socially acceptable" to criticize, he'll avoid. He's a convenient fence-rider. No spine.

[@TheRambler45]

Lol what an absolute braindead take liberal ​@@gavo7911

[@Scattman101]

Horizon is one of those games that seems really generic until you play it and experience the story and the journey. It's one of my favorite open-world games but it took me years to play it because I just wasn't into the whole "robot dinosaurs with bow and arrows" theme. But the way the story is told and explained, and how you get to follow Aloy from growing up to saving the world is an awesome experience that I love coming back to. The way the open-world is paced and progressively gets bigger and bigger as you get further from where you started makes it so it's not too overwhelming imo. If you're just not into open-world games though, then it's not gonna revolutionize anything for you. But it's a great series with a lot of care put into it.

[@RobbieB2606]

I've played through both Horizon games and altough I like them a lot, I don't love them. For me it is the story that is the problem - I don't find the future setting nearly as interesting as the back story you uncover of the apocalypse. I found the tribal stuff pretty uninteresting, and a lot of the side characters pretty dull, or annoying. I do like Aloy a lot though. Solid 7.5/10 games IMO

[@nothing001-z3p]

@@RobbieB2606 I agree. Discovering what happened before the end of the world was awesome, but the tribes were ok at best.

[@Scattman101]

@@RobbieB2606 Yeah I'll agree the 2nd game's story gets a little too carried away at the end. I was really enjoying the story for the first 2/3's though. Mostly when you are learning about the past is when the story is at its best. I think if they can wrap it up in the 3rd game it'll be a nice trilogy to replay every now and then.

[@ksks6802]

Matt...WTF man? How can you not openly condemn obsidian for wishing death and suffering to millions of people that aligns within a political spectrum. Absolutely crazy....you'll speculate about games all day, but when you can really make a difference, your nowhere to be found

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

It's even about that Art Director being Vile, Microsoft and Obsidian Hire based on Race. Like how is this not a big deal? If they hired AGAINST non whites it would be on every media org in the country, but discriminating against whites? WHO CARES GUYS let's move on! "Nothing Burger Guys!" Literal Hypocrisy that will give rise to Evil...

[@VikingBiker789]

Are you going to cover the Avowed situation?

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

Nope. Matt is yet another Self-hating whiteboy that loves discrimination against whites because he views nonwhites as lower than whites and they need help to get ahead of whites. Btw it's not even about that art director, Microsoft and Obsidian overtly hire based on Race and advertise it for all to see via DEI programs. Funny enough no one cares when white people are discriminated against, this will give rise to actual unironic white supremacists one day in the coming years sadly due to people like Matt being silent thus creating resentment due to people not having their voices heard and being treated differently based on race in Media and slowly in the Job Market via DEI programs being implemented in every single major company in the US even Walmart and the Post Offices (Government DEI programs) Even the Secret Service has Publicly available DEI programs and documents on their website... It's inevitable due to the lack of pushback culturally it will bubble under the surface like a cancerous cell and eventually become mainstream...I've been watching it for years slowly grow due to this lack of Culturally and institutional pushback.

[@KeyboardSavant]

Speaking of Elden Ring animations, one of the rhino or boar-like creatures in this featurette also moved exactly like the Fallingstar Beast.

[@SotNist]

Horizon is great. 2 main games and a Lego spin off. It ain't that much.

[@chickmagnetwampaone]

If Palworld is getting sued, this game doesn't stand a chance 😅

[@pse2020]

Seeing how sony is trying real hard making horizon a thing and taking every wrong step posible and failing i dont mind other studios giving us a world with horizon astethic. I just hope the gameplay will be good.

[@OneRandomVictory]

So we're just gonna combine every IP with Arc now huh...

[@bcav712]

Makes sense, ARK was very good.

[@justinpaglia616]

It’s a very Japanese thing to only sue for $30,000 with a game that sold 25 million copies. In America you stub your toe on someone’s sidewalk and they sue for 20 million.

[@CrystallineLore]

Horizon Zero dawn only looks super successful to Sony because it had a high attachment rate to their consoles and thus technically sold a shitton of copies... even though it was bundled with it. It also generated a lot of buzz. This hyper-inflated its success to both the general community and Sony IMO, because Forbidden West did nowhere near as well and so far isn't ever likely to, and the lego game flopped hard and was critically panned.

[@angiwells6897]

Its clearly a rip off

[@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElse]

I want to talk about the gaming industry. microsoft, and sony are majority owned by blackrock, vanguard, and state street. these 3 companies own each other. ziff davis and fandom inc control the big gaming journalist outlets such as metacritic and IGN as examples are also owned by blackrock, vanguard, and state street. EA, and Epic games as well as other companies on the ESRB board are also owned by blackrock, vanguard, and state street. these 3 companies are part of the world economic forum. Larry Fink the CEO of blackrock has an infamous video of him stating that you have to force behaviors. these shareholders are manipulating hiring practices by hiring far leftists to push this agenda in the industry. we can see this with Ubisoft's hiring pipeline of using DEI to hire people and get them in the industry. The people that support DEI are going to be the ones benefitting from it because they don't care that they are a token hire they are in it for the free ride. valve is one of the only places that these companies don't have their claws dug in. I’m just showing where this political crap is coming from in the industry.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

If you liked the first one, you should definitely play the second one. Its mechanically the same with some QOL improvements and it certainly keeps the basic story build. A problem is plaguing the land and you have to figure out how to fix it while dealing with hostile tribes and some overarching villain in the background. All in all, pretty enjoyable.

[@skippyzk]

All the "innovations" from Bethesda games is just incorporating popular mods from the last game. Gatherables disappearing when harvested first started in skyrim, that was a mod for new Vegas.

[@jermelpurse3018]

I don’t know if it’s fair to call it a rip off. Don’t get me wrong. It looks the same, but does it play the same? Is it telling the same narrative? Look at the title that was on the Xbox that everybody said wow that’s a Pokémon rip off turns out it wasn’t. Even Nintendo couldn’t sue and say you’re ripping off our franchise they had to sue and say you’re ripping off our mechanics. Just because the game decides to look like another game doesn’t make it a rip off. Callisto Protocol was it a rip off? Most people didn’t say it was. We could tell what game it was based upon easily, but nobody argued. It was a direct rip off. Tunic was it a rip off? No but everybody knew where the idea came from. So I think we oughta be careful tossing out that phrase. Wait until you see the gameplay mechanics. That is where they have a problem because it doesn’t appear. It’s going to be a third person action adventure game with light RPG mechanics. It looks like they’re going a totally different route. It looks like they’re going survival crafting.

[@kokroucz]

"Blender game" I like blender and I like this term. Its perfect and I'm stealing it and will use it from now on.

[@obikenkenobi30]

Here is how it's gonna go. Some people are going to eventually play this game. If people like this game and it's entertaining then people will give it good reviews. If it's not woke, if it's getting good word of mouth from internet reviewers. If they put out a demo that is good. These things happen, then this game and it's hotter protagonist is going to do very well compared to other games that catered to...modern audiences. That's just how it's going to go. Of course, if it sucks, then that too shall be revealed.

[@DevinPosey20]

People need to give up on the idea of Pokémon making a palworld type of game. There isn’t a anime or manga of Pokemon that shows these characters using a gun on a Pokémon to fight

[@jayfrost3025]

if its releasing on playstation then i dont think sony really cares . money is money

[@thecasualreviewer2148]

I just can't imagine not LOVING Horizon!!!! It's my personal favorite series of the current generation. I'm not the least bit surprised someone ripped them off, but I didn't think it would be this blatant. I figured it would lead to a new Dino Crisis once a year, hahaa

[@lupolinar]

Ma guy, get your facts right: Witcher did it first. Also, maybe the "rip-off" make an interesting or atleast not obnoxious protag.. Also, China based devs will not care what westerners say or do.