Mrpete Goes to a High School Auction Tips 577 tubalcain DELTA SANDER

[@classicrestoration]

I began taking Industrial Arts classes in 7th grade in 1964. At that time they were mandatory for boys but when we got to HS, they were co-ed. Even at that early level, there were plenty of ways to be seriously hurt by a variety of dangerous equipment. Our teachers were understandably very strict when it came to safety. You did something unsafe and you spent the entire period sitting on your bench. At the time none of us realized what a huge responsibility those teachers had. We learned positive lessons and skills that have been with us our entire lives. In my view, the abandonment of those programs have done much harm to generations who never got experience it. To this day, I can remember the names of every one of my shop teachers. The same cannot be said for my other teachers🤔 I'm grateful for their passion (and patience) as for me it was truly a lifelong gift. Mr Pete, I fully understand why you bought those planes👍

[@carlosgaspar8447]

so we could hear mr. pete's blue man group joke.

[@MrStonemike]

Sir, Im a semi-retired welder and was instilled with an addiction and 'love of tools' at a very young age by my wonderful father ! He was a great mechanic, equipment operator and in general one of the most productive innovative men Ive ever known! I just wanted to let you know how much myself and others enjoy your efforts on youtube , and I know that you and I share the natural love of working, producing and actually creating something , rather than destroying things ! I really pity anyone that has not experienced the complete satisfaction of creating , building, or restoring something ! Thanks

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much, that was a great comment. Sounds like you had a wonderful father

[@johnapel2856]

Neat stuff! Painful to think of that mill going for scrap. Thanks.

[@tonyrmathis]

No kidding! I hate to see quality tools like that discarded for no good reason.

[@joandar1]

@@tonyrmathis and John Apel, I would justify paying for it and shipping to Australia where I am just to NOT see it scrapped if I had the chance. Cheers from John.

[@Duckfarmer27]

Lyle - Had to smile at your comment about the shop teacher not taking care of the machine. I'm from a small town like you. In junior high in the early 60s I had a great shop teacher in 7th and 8th grade who took excellent care of things. In 1970 he became my brother in law (one of 7 brothers) when I married the kid sister; we were in the same class in school. He later helped me build our house. It was a shame to watch the support of programs such as he and you taught go by the boards. I went on to become a mechanical engineer, but got the love of working with wood and metal back in junior high. I'm glad I acquired at auction two of the machines he bought when the new high school went up in 1967, after I was gone - they are in use in my retirement shop. One is a 12 inch sander - but a Powermatic. Many of us owe guys like you and him thanks for what you taught us way back when. And appreciate what I still learn from watching your flicks.

[@mrpete222]

Powermatic equipment was very popular in school shops. That was made in Tennessee

[@TRKGL1800]

Glad to see you keeping some of this machinery and tools from being destroyed. My Dad was a master carpenter at Berea College and made beautiful furniture. I have some of his wood planes in my house on display as well as some of his furniture.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@jimhumphrey]

I'll refrain from woodworking jokes on this one. :) I wish we had those type of auctions here. Nice video!

[@andrewabbot1380]

I still am entertained by you and how you come up with different ways of presenting your material. A true artist.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@chance1986]

Loved this video. (I'll watch it again later.) Fun to see this classic equipment get back into the proper hands, restored, and used to create something useful and beautiful. And I know this sounds silly, but the audio was great! Especially around 7:50 when you installed the table and the knobs. Love the sound of things fitting together properly.

[@rrabbit1960]

It makes me sad that schools have discontinued shop classes. I learned a lot in junior high shop classes: leather, plastic, wood, metal (sheet metal and basic blacksmithing), and mechanical drawing. I did continue wood shop for a semester in high school but I was college bound so most of my classes were academic in nature. I switched to photography in 10th grade and since I had extra electives, graphic arts in junior and senior year. Graphic arts was basically printing-we learned everything from design to layout, to typesetting/plate making, to setting up and operating lithographic and platen presses. We even did multiple colors. I learned a lot in all those shop classes that I used both in college and in life-especially since one of my hobbies is woodworking.

[@mrpete222]

We had class was like that when I was a student in high school

[@andyZ3500s]

We didn't have anything like that where I grew up in California that I know of. There still was auto shop, wood shop and a jewelry class. They were just places to stick the kids with bad grades. The teacher's tried really hard to help us find a path with a small budget. This was in the early 80's.

[@markschiavone8003]

Mr Pete you live a charmed life! I'm glad that you worked successfully throughout your career so that you can enjoy yourself now.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@geoffmorgan6059]

You passed over the air compressors! I spotted a decent looking Quincy pump sitting lonely between a couple of the horizontal tanks. Made in Quincy, Illinois, USA! They were one of the few small reciprocating pumps that I know of that have an oil pump. (There are many that know a great more than I do, so tell us if there are others.) The unloader on the Quincy will not release until oil pressure has been established. Like everything else, now part of a conglomerate, I think "offshore". Great air compressor gear for the amateur shop. Good job!

[@isaacclark6749]

Looked like a Quincy 325, highly sought after pump

[@kmcwhq]

Those are excellent compressors! Probably went DIRT cheap too.

[@Daledavispratt]

That's a nice sander for sure, and I remember my wood shop teacher doing just as you described with having us disassemble and then reassemble a wood plane. He did the sharpening, though, probably to save the blades..Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@bufordmcnairy8175]

I took wood shop in jr. high back in 1981 and about 20 years ago i was at my old school picking up my nephew one day and took a walk down to the old shop class and learned they had ended woodshop and looking through the shop door window i could see all the old machines had been unhooked and moved to one side of the shop by the bay doors. Sad. I can't remember the name all the machine had but they was all a dark green and very heavy duty. I hope they found a good home and not scrapped. Thank's MrPete for sharing the video's and stories.

[@mrpete222]

😂

[@HoneyGlzedHam]

Can't wait to see those pattern making videos!

[@llapmsp]

I really enjoy the auction videos you produce, especially yout narration. Keep them coming.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@craigsudman4556]

Great find, Lyle. Thumbs up.

[@BroomerVelo]

I love the auctions. I can see the items and I dont have to buy them or carry them. I have alot of tools. And I enjoy learning about these other unknown tools. I would say I know a out 60% of them. But I had a excellent mentor and spent much time restoring old cars and tools.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@thatoldbob7956]

Mr. Pete, you bought the best item what people like us with lots of machines without room for it. I love that it’s a cast iron table though in my view a bit under powered. I bought a new, in sale, 12” disk sander 2hp but has aluminum table which I hate, it sticks and steel standings stay embedded in the table. Congratulation!

[@quinn5984]

I've got the same Rockwell 12" disk sander. Model 31-122 with the open stand. It has a 1 HP Rockwell motor, marked 14 A on the plate and has a reverse switch. A beast of a sander. Makes short work of cleaning up bandsaw cut marks on aluminum and quickly squaring cutoff pieces using the miter gauge. I placed a small shop-vac in the open stand beneath the sander and hooked it to the dust port. It completely captures all the dust. I use the sander all the time. It's a very useful tool for quick deburring of straight cuts in steel, aluminum and brass. And it's a GREAT pencil sharpener! Bearings on mine are noisy, too, just like yours. I intend to replace them one of these days, but the disk spins smoothly, so for now I can live with the noise.

[@mrpete222]

I wish mine had the one horse power motor. My brother always used his to sharpen a pencil

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Enjoyed.

[@lotsabirds]

Great Videos! Can you keep the text up a bit longer? I'm a fast reader and I can't keep up. Maybe double the time that it's on the screen. Thanks!

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

I do as you do- similar tools in my mechanical workshop and my electronics workshop, screwdrivers, small wrenches, socket sets, nut drivers, files etc. Enjoyed seeing you enjoying buying at the auction.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

@@mrpete222 Is it true- you can never have enough tools? I think so.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Thanks for taking us along Mr. Pete! Really sad about that Van Norman going for scrap. :( Nice buy on that sander!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@eddiekulp1241]

I know replying to 3 year old videos make no sense, but I found your videos recently , there great . Was a tool grinder for many years

[@mrpete222]

I am glad you found me. Keep watching

[@windyhillfoundry5940]

Anxious to see the pattern work, nice sander👌

[@bcbloc02]

Nice sander. Looking forward to some more casting action.

[@vburke1]

Oooooooh, look at the planes with the synthetic school totes :)

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@samdavis5079]

Bought some machines at auction 2 weeks ago, drove 480 miles one way. One heck of a day trip... Yes I also have a problem, you are not alone.

[@millomweb]

Please do a video about Tubal Cain and explain where Mr Pete comes from. Thanks.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Tubal Cain is from Genesis 4:22 Mr Pete is just a shortened surname from Mr. Peterson.

[@mitchstephen5491]

I took all the shops in high school, majored in electrical and became an electrician. Then I started my own excavating business and do all my own machining work ( 2 lathes and two milling machines ). I also do all my own mechanic work on my trucks and equipment and now I hobby in woodworking and even have my own sawmill. So the moral of the story is, what the hell would I be doing without shop classes and just think what a lot of kids are missing out without them.

[@mrpete222]

That is a great testimony

[@austinatkinson4344]

My high school is still very strong. I’m not graduated yet but I’m in early college for welding and already got some machining textbooks to read to learn more

[@roeng1368]

Schools should be buying tools and machinery, not selling it off. Pity that big old mill going for scrap, it probably never did a hard days work in its life.

[@commando340]

the modern thinking is that everyone should be a computer genus.

[@roeng1368]

@@commando340 But if that computer needs a plug putting on the cord, they are helpless.

[@tonyrmathis]

@@commando340 Talk about idiocy. Specialize in a career where the thing you're programming will soon program itself.

[@tonyrmathis]

They're adapting to the demands of single mothers. Without fathers to set an example there will always be a lack of interest in trades. There's a reason soap operas always portray good men as white collar types and criminals as blue collar. They too are giving their audience what they want.

[@lorenlieder9789]

Great score Mr Pete

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@BenButler1]

Sad that the schools are doing away with this type of instruction

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@paulthunberg4543]

Ben Butler high school welding classes was a great start to a long career for me. I have tried repeatedly to start a program in the local school district, just no interest. All kids need to go to college.

[@fnordhorn]

My H.S. still has a STRONG trade classes. They for one build a house each year then sell it and put the profits in to next years house. Grad in 1972

[@tonyrmathis]

Who needs skills when you can just elect people who'll give you whatever you want if you whine loud enough. And of course we have danger of death from infected blisters to consider. Sure maybe nobody's died yet from it but why take a chance. At least we have high quality music still being produced to ease the pain. Oh wait...never mind.

[@axeman2638]

Criminal would be a more apt description.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

I am green with envy over this sander! I have a 12" Delta that is about 15 years old, no base came with it. I love the thing but would have been bidding against you on this one and probably taken it all the way to $400.00. I think I paid close to that much for the one I have. While in the Air Force in the late 1960's I would occasionally get to the hobby shop on base to work on some projects and they had a 24" disc sander that could reduce a piece of stock to dust in seconds! I always wanted that machine as well but there is no way a man and his wife could have loaded that huge machine on a trailer, grin.... Love these auction videos. By the way I believe I saw your later video in which you discussed the planes, another great video...

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Good morning once again Mr Pete and as always thank you for the edutainment. Now where's that coffee cup?

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@davidw.kennedy4904]

Nice video. I would have thought 50 also for the sander also. Was the Van Norman mill tooled?

[@altonriggs2352]

I remember when Mr.Pete swore off auctions...the flesh is so weak...

[@fungas4804]

he's a man of many vices, and now planes - we are all glad he carried on bargain hunting - keep it up Mr Pete!

[@martinnorbeck5961]

He needs a fix that only new toys will provide. My Dad was the same way. When he retired from airforce work all he did was go to the flea market and look for more gismos to bring home and mess with. He did that for ten or twelve years before he passed away in 1991. I have the same disease.

[@tonyrmathis]

He's living my dream. Don't mess with the dream.

[@AdrianPardini]

I have the same problem with hand drills. Got six and only use one. But they look great on the wall with the rest of the tools.

[@theodoredugranrut8201]

Thanks mr. Pete it's always a pleasure. And no they don't give away quality, quality Machinery is not cheap.!

[@kmcwhq]

Those Quincy compressors at 2:50 are nice units, with pressure oiling systems like an auto engine. They last forever with some minimal maintenance.

[@johno6861]

I bought one of those sanders, hard to find the 14” disks but have to make my own. Most of my tools come from school auctions. Some I have had to change from 3 phase. I once bought a whole pallet of screws, mostly brass and nickel platted brass. A complete inventory, slotted, mostly Prince and Reed. That table saw was probably 3phase and the motor on that model can’t just be swapped out so you have to start messing with phase controllers. They are hard to sell.

[@victorramos3671]

I love your radio voice

[@bro.weaver1282]

Lol, Pete: I want that vise. Auctioneer: hell no, you gotta buy the entire drill press(while the other drill presses have no vises) lol

[@geoffmorgan6059]

From Mr. Pete's comments, the drill presses went for peanuts. So it might have been worthwhile just to buy the combination and sell off the drill press. (Maybe not all the drill presses sold so cheap?)

[@crbielert]

I wanted to go to one of these high school shop auctions in Hope Indiana yesterday. Missed out on two sb lathes, a whole slew of Miller welders and some other very nice stuff Edit: until I get a trailer of some sort to haul stuff I think it'll be a bust anyway.

[@toddavis8603]

ROCKWELL is a great machine! We could have used those Stanley-Bailey planes at Apex Tech School Queens, when I taught wood shop there for 18 months.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bentontool]

I have a Delta sander just like the one you bought... great sander. I use it all the time, mostly for metalworking applications. Sounds just like mine. It sat in my barn for two years as I was re-habing the barn I now use for a shop. Thanks Mr. Pete! Where did you get that green folding chair? I want one... never saw one w/pockets!

[@mark16443]

i wish my high school had half that stuff. we had all the powermatic woodshop stuff that i would love to have but no metal working stuff. Must be too dangerous for the poor children now :( i would have ended up trying to buy all of those planes too, my dad loves woodworking and would love to have those in his shop

[@PaulSteMarie]

That Delta radial arm saw is absolutely gorgeous! Those planes are absolutely gorgeous. I would have bought them, too. What's the thread size on those Delta knobs? I picked up a ball turner for my lathe some time ago and I'm betting that I could make those out of five pieces in steel.

[@JorgenLarsson]

Nice sander! Maybe the bearings are just bone dry and filled with saw dust. At a school it would probably just run a couple of minutes every day at max.

[@bluetoad2001]

very cool. you're gonna need some more planes. lol of course the great thing about older equipment is it will last and last.✌️️✌️️😎👍🏻

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@robertlunsford1350]

That is a nice haul of hand planes lol I could use a couple No 5s

[@ChimeraActual]

Love those big disk sanders for pattern making and other precise shaping. Mine's a 20" State, 3 ph, either 2 or 3 hp, forgot which. Recently installed a VFD, there are other ways to get good 3 ph, but the Chinese VFD's are so cheap, and puzzling out the parameters, gives your brain, if not your blood pressure, a little exercise. I bought it used ca. 1995 (no idea how old it is, no motor plate either) for about $250, check out what they go for on Ebay now, a little retirement security. Originally I used it for a bit of pattern making and boat carpentry, now it sits in my shop as much to shape steel and aluminum as wood. I love getting stuff for free, or at least the illusion of free, when I turn it off it spins for a good half hour and you can still cut stuff for much of that time. That reddish glue on the table is probably resorcinol, tsk, tsk. Safety tip: disconnect the dust collector and clean out any residual wood bits before you run any steel -- had an exciting afternoon a little while ago...

[@mrpete222]

I have not used mine yet, but I did clean out the dust chute. The trouble with a 12 inch like mine, is That there is only about 3 1/2 inches of usable abrasive. That must be quite a machine you have. I am sure it’s heavy

[@MrShobar]

I always wondered what finals week at an auctioneer's college would sound like...

[@josephwilson6651]

Everyone glories in the C N C now, forgetting the fact that men built the first C N C's using the manual machines!!! And you've made me jealous again Mr.Pete

[@860240]

The disc sander, Patternmakers favourite machine.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@jackwittlich8409]

I am glad to see that the sander runs in the "right" direction. In every pattern shop I have been in, sanders run clockwise, but are sometimes reversible, when required. So many You Tubers run them CCW. That is odd to me. How about you?

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@markkoons7488]

Got another 12" Delta 3ph disc sander at auction with a little bigger motor. When I got it back to the shop I looked up the price which was $1,200 something. Can't recall what I paid so I must think it was worth it. Useful machine.

[@mrpete222]

😀😀

[@frenchcreekvalley]

I made a 9" disc sander many years ago and used it a lot back then. But the time and fuss required to change discs discouraged me once I got a belt sander/grinder. It will be interesting to see which way you go with new discs. Will you choose a "general purpose" grit so you don't have to change the disc with every new job? Will you go with sticky-back discs or will you use plain discs with separate (contact?) adhesive? I started with contact adhesive, but even on my 9" machine, it takes a good 5 minutes to get the old glue off. I know you said that you'd use it for wooden pattern making, but I will bet that it gets used for some metalwork, too.

[@joeclarke9782]

Thanks for the auction tour Mr P. Saddest thing in Public Ed has been ending technical instruction.I have failed to see any progress in American Ed which has dropped in rank from #1 to about #26 in the world.

[@mrpete222]

😂

[@jimmoore4041]

"why did I buy most of the hand planes" LOL!

[@josepcb2882]

Buena compra. Felicidades. Saludos desde Barcelona Catalonia.

[@johnbrookbank2969]

Van Norman = sad to see it go to scrap , ran one and did a great job on large jobs !

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@fredygump5578]

Hey, I just bought that same disc sander! I think $200 on craigslist. Mine doesn't have the cabinet base, just the 4 leg stand...but it sure runs nice. It takes literally 5min to spin down when I shut it off....so I guess bearings are good. Mine has the toggle switch, and is wired for 120v. I'm wondering what happens if I change it over to 240v? Will it have more power, or not?

[@mrpete222]

Mine will coast for a very long time as well. I did not time it. I am sure it would run exactly the same on 220 V

[@minskmade]

i just sold a nice Rockwell 12". Great sander. I just use my 6x48 craftsman more. Smaller foot print to. :) great video.

[@MaturePatriot]

We had all the same machinery when I was an assistant Building Trades instructor. Yes I would have loved to have that Powermatic Drill Press. I need a horizontal band saw. Good buy on the 12" Delta sander. (edit) Sadly, the new generation of instructors are not interested in maintaining the machinery, because they would rather be in the computer lab.

[@JamesDedmon]

Interesting buy

[@TheArsonsmith4242]

That sander looks like it's on the same base as my Rockwell Jointer.

[@Imwright720]

Wow , lucky students

[@curtisvonepp4335]

Lyle did you say $ 100 Bux for the van Norman Univerasl mill wish i was there .💰😁

[@TraditionalToolworks]

Did the first circuit have a strip with breaker in it? Often a machine will pop those strips.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@MikeBramm]

That disc sander was a good grab. You could always sell those planes on eBay.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@RockingJOffroad]

I’d be in trouble if we had more tool and equipment auctions around my part of the country! There is a Van Norman mill like the one at the auction the is for sale local to me and the seller is asking $2000.

[@mrpete222]

Wow

[@elund408]

When I was in JR High, I took metal shop, our "shop teacher" told us the lathe was broken and we worked more with plastic than metal. I figured out later he was an art teacher shoved into shop class. didn't learn anything that term. wonder if my life would have been different if I had a real shop teacher.

[@kawonnowak]

Mr Pete, you could always try taking that glue off the sander bed with a Stanley No 5 Bailey plane... 😅

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@nickalexander9533]

That looks like the auction in Pekin, now i really wish i could have made it if nothing else just to say hi to you.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good deals. But sad to see the loss of another school shop program.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@larrymoody9183]

I have a van norman #16 and its a shame to think of one going for scrap. The van norman will take a cut that would make a bridgeport puke its gut up!

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

I almost bought a VN #12, still kind of wish I did. They are awesome mills.

[@gvet47]

We need to have someone analyze what your attraction is to vises and planes. There must be a medical explanation for it. 🤔🤣🤣🤣

[@CleaveMountaineering]

I suffer from the same disease so keep me posted on the results...

[@1889michaelcraig]

I have the same fixation with abrasion machines to Mr pete, my wife says its a sickness lol

[@mrpete222]

Yes lol

[@tedsykora1858]

Floor space is shrinking. Have fun

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@Garth2011]

That Rockwell sander will sing very well with new Timken bearings in it. Nothing is better than a good solid cast iron motor housing with quality windings. those three phase motors sing much better tunes however, 3 phase power is a bit of an expense for a residence.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@retireddriver16]

Nice 👍

[@kevinwillis9126]

Thanks for sharing sir..

[@scottlundy257]

Pete its a sickness you need to get some help. did they not tell you ? You can't take it with you. love ya Pete your a good man.

[@scotthaddad563]

Mr Pete I want to tell you about how crazy folks are around here. A guy in a local sale group on Facebook put up for sale a Craftsman (Sherline) 3” lathe for $450.00 . It was missing the chuck, the motor and any other accessory. The headstock threads and the bed of the lathe were rusty and dirty. When Pointed out the obvious defects and how the price was way off, he says; “ well on ebay, blah, blah”. The guy thought he had a goldmine!

[@HEADDYNAMICS]

Mr. Pete, how do you find all these auctions? I live around the Oregon area, so not to far from you and I never hear or see any advertisements about tools sales. Is there a website where you find them, or just word of mouth?

[@mrpete222]

Newspaper ads

[@HEADDYNAMICS]

@@mrpete222 Thank you, looks like I will have to start getting the paper. If ever you need to use a surface grinder or a big lathe, I live outside of Grand Detour, you are welcome anytime. I have an 8X24 B&S No5.

[@fattguy21]

sign up for auctionpresents and auctionzip and make a dedicated email address as auctions will clog your email

[@fattguy21]

@@HEADDYNAMICS sign up for auctionpresents and auctionzip and make a dedicated email address as auctions will clog your email

[@HEADDYNAMICS]

@@fattguy21 thank you

[@dannyl2598]

I'm happy for you Mr Pete. Sorry about that vise, I feel your pain. Maybe there is a better one waiting for you at another sale.... for less money.

[@stevehansen5389]

Just brought home a 12" Rockwell. Needs a better power chord and a fresh disc. Otherwise it is in good condition. Paid $200. Does that make you feel better?

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@brianainslie754]

Funny, turns out taxes actually pay for things you want sometimes... I encourage voting for higher funding for your local schools. Im always happy to chip in for the community and the future. Keep civics, shop classes and home econ alive!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@RickRose]

I can only hope that with the "maker" movement this trend might start to reverse, and schools might start buying tools again instead of selling them. The downward trend had already started in the 80s, when I took shop classes. These great machines were still in the classroom back then, but we weren't allowed to use them. We made very, very simple projects with hand tools, and the shop teachers used the good equipment after hours to make their own projects. We'd see some of them in the making and go "ooh" and "ahhhh," but we couldn't touch the tools required to make them. I blame lawyers.

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Nice sander

[@CreaseysWorkshop]

You will be able to build your wife a lovely new end table with all those tools!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@elund408]

I see a flood of #5 stanleys headed to ebay.

[@TheDistur]

I hope so...

[@RickRose]

Not just Stanleys. Baileys. Those were the good ones!

[@TheDistur]

Dang. I went to one looking at a drill press that was only half that nice and it went for almost as much!

[@v860rich]

Horrible Freight has the 12" discs for that sander. I use them on mine with good results.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@christurley391]

Thanks again.

[@geoffreyward4743]

have you ever thought about buying a trolley ,the ones that climb stairs.

[@Rprecision]

I would be interested in buying a plane, harks back to junior high

[@boaterbil]

Did they cut vo-tech?