Restore Rusty Angle Plate

Watch me derust and restore an old angle plate.
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[@tom87pate]

Neat stuff Mr. Pete. I went to a flea market last week and found a Mitutoyo 0-1" micrometer in really good shape, but it was frozen up rock solid. I got it for a whopping "two-bucks" so I took it apart and put it in my ultra-sonic cleaner for a couple of days, but it still wouldn't budge. Next, I mixed up acetone and brake fluid (50/50) and put the micrometer in a glass bowl and sit it on the dashboard of my spare vehicle for a couple of days. With the high temps we've recently had in the Mid-West my concoction got really hot and unfroze the micrometer. After a clean-up and slight adjustment, I now have a really nice micrometer for $2 bucks and a little "elbow grease." Your project (a few bucks and some "elbow-grease") reminded me of my recent project.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@lathammarx1458]

Great video Tubalcain, I really enjoy seeing you save items from the scrap bin. So many times things just get covered in rust and corruption and tossed. Glad to see you rescue it for the cost of 2 dollars and your wife's tupperware.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍👍

[@jamesjinks8080]

Lyle, if it hasn't been said already, soaking items in Evaporust if it doesn't completed cover the item can cause a permanent line on the iron. Most people believe it has to do with the water evaporating out at the boundary between the liquid and the air and creating a zone where accelerated micro-rusting can occur. Then the Evaporust will dissolve the rust, evaporate, and re-rust over and over again. A handy trick when the Evaporust is just below the top of the item is to drap Saran wrap or cling wrap plastic over the item and make sure that all the air is squeezed out.... Jim

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jamesjinks8080]

@@mrpete222 might actually be worth a small snippet or addendum to a future video... us teachers have to keep helping each other out! ☺

[@ypaulbrown]

your wife is a real Gem....having meet her, she is a dream wife, hope you let her know.......Cheers...PB

[@mrpete222]

I do all the time

[@ypaulbrown]

@@mrpete222 have a wonderful day my Friend....

[@jcknives4162]

Coffee on Saturday morning, watching the sun rise on the Crazy Mountains and a MR Pete video. Loved it!

[@ellieprice363]

Hi Lyle, Two thumbs up on the Saturday morning video. Send me that pretty little angle plate and I’ll be happy to surface grind, paint and ship it back to you at no cost. I have some Bridgeport blue/grey gloss enamel that would really set it off.

[@4GSR]

Those angle plates... You can't live with them but the moment you need one, you can't decide which one to use, or the one you don't have and need! Thanks for sharing, Ken

[@stxrynn]

Good morning!! I usually have to do a minimum of three side projects to get where I can start the original job. So this de-rusting tango is familiar. Most times, step one is digging around to find what I need!! One of these days, I hope to be like my mentor and just reach over, get what I need and start in.

[@4GSR]

@@stxrynn Who me???😁

[@stxrynn]

@@4GSR yeppers

[@user-rk4zm3nb5f]

Oh boy! Saturday morning with Mr. Pete!

[@stxrynn]

Thanks for the primer on checking accuracy. I appreciate it! Take care Professor Pete!!!!

[@AlpacaRenee]

You’re a man after my own heart! I love finding those kinds of gems at estate sales! They don’t make them like that anymore.

[@raywilson9450]

"It's not gonna get it..." is one of my favorite Mr Pete sayings. Even my wife says it now and again. And she's heard the toothbrush and Tupperware jokes, too.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@rexmyers991]

As usual, I learned a lot. Thanks, Teach!

[@123232ism]

One can't have enough angle plates...especially for the home gamer. Great video Mr. Pete!

[@petek210]

I watch every video and you were killin' it tonight Mr.Pete

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@sallybrokaw6124]

This spring I cleaned and painted several pipe wrenches and S style wrenches. Used Evaporust mixed with white vinegar. Worked okay for me.AL B.

[@ypaulbrown]

did you mix the Evaporust with the White Vinegar, or just two different baths....thanks, Paul

[@sallybrokaw6124]

@@ypaulbrown I bought a tub with a lid big enough for the pipe wrench to lay flat. Longest I did was 18".poured in 1 gallon of vinegar and eyeballed how much Evaporust to pour in. Left parts to soak 3 days at least. Took them out each day and scrubbed with a stainless steel scratch brush. Like Pete did rinsed off in water and went over with 180 or 220 emery. Used Rustoleum rusty metal primer and color of choice. Your mileage may vary ,good luck and thanks for asking.AL B in Ohio.

[@ypaulbrown]

@@sallybrokaw6124 just a note, Rusty Metal Primer has fish oil in it. it will not cure properly if used on metal that has no rust, so the top coat will suffer...I set up a 5 gallon bucket with white vinegar and got great results with no Evaporust....I find the Evaporust does not last very long.....I then soak in water and baking soda, 1 lb per gallon to neutralize the vinegar.....the vinegar is a lot stronger than I would have imagined, left a wire brush in and 2 days later the wire was gone......best wishes from Florida, Paul .

[@sallybrokaw6124]

@@ypaulbrown I've used Rustoleum products on sandblasted,wire brushed,lightly sanded or brand new metal. I did metal etch treat and water rinse the blasted stuff but it has worked for me on all surfaces. AL B.

[@ypaulbrown]

@@sallybrokaw6124 you mention Rustoleum Products you used, I was specifically talking about the Rusty Metal Primer not drying on properly prepared steel, [unless there was still oxidation on it] not the Industrial Enamels they make. Just something to be aware of, hope this helps. Paul

[@RaptorMachineToolCo]

Nice work Lyle! Thanks, Joe

[@jhawker2895]

I always enjoy your videos... Thanks for Sharing ... Stay safe and well ...

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Mr Pete, great buy. As for the accuracy, as for what it will be used for I say it's a fine addition to the shop. As for the paint, wait for down time when you perform your yearly PM in the shop. 73

[@BillsWorkbench]

Thank you Mr. Pete! This video made my morning. Enjoy that chicken salad. :). I was also surprised by how square that angle plate was afterwards.

[@normcameron2316]

I've found extra strong vinegar, 15% commercial grade or 8% cleaning grade works well on rust and shale, just takes time and an otherwise clean/non oily work piece. 8% Cleaning vinegar takes about 48 hours to remove mill scale from hot rolled steel and leaves a satin finish. Bear in mind as the chemical process proceeds, the acid is weakened. So, if you soak the material in a large enough tub of vinegar or change the vinegar as it weakens the two day or less process is achievable. If you can get the commercial grade, used for making mayo and such, times cut in half.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@normcameron2316]

@@mrpete222 I forgot I live in an agricultural area, we can buy much stronger horticultural vinegar so that is an option for some. Buying the really strong stuff online is possible, but shipping is a problem.

[@componenx]

The problem with vinegar is that it WILL eat the base metal if left in too long. Some people add salt, which speeds up the reaction. I use it, but only on non-precision items. A few years back I bought some white vinegar from an asian market, and it was not the 5% we know and love! It was at least 15%, as thinning with water still made it too strong for normal food use. I eventually dumped it into my jug of de-rusting vinegar.

[@ypaulbrown]

Looking marvelous......thanks for a great video Mr Peterson......Paul in Florida

[@windyhillfoundry5940]

Great little angle block and Happy Anniversary to you and the Mrs Jeanette👏

[@cadewey6181]

I second Clarks best wishes. I don’t think those potato salad containers are dish washer safe. You might want to replace them with the new snap down or screw on lid types.

[@roylucas4414]

It doesn't get any better than this. Coffee and Mr. Pete on a Saturday morning.

[@oddshot60]

Mr Pete, I'm gettin' on too, and I notice that MANY things are getting a little harder to lift, whether they are on a flat surface or not. I'm beginning to think that gravity, rather than vacuum, is increasing somehow. Maybe somebody should call the government and let them know.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.

[@johnlee8231]

Nice find. Glad you saved it

[@ls2005019227]

Thanks for another great video!

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video.

[@bostedtap8399]

Plastic bag in a cardboard box, perfect fit every time. Has the appearance of Citric Acid reaction to rust, I use this with excellent affect, same scotch pad and washing, the appy a de-watering fluid. Excellent work, thanks for sharing.

[@johncloar1692]

Thanks for Sharing, Nicely done.

[@MrPossumeyes]

Thanks, Mr Pete.

[@mark314158]

Hmm... there's a ball at the end of that indicator stand - have you ever wondered why that is...?

[@janhengst4648]

It almost looks like a finial of sorts...

[@RichieCat4223]

4:02 Mr Pete I filter mine using a coffee filter before putting it back in it's container.

[@mrpete222]

Good idea

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Good find thanks for sharing

[@duron700r]

Good product. Fun and informative! You just blatantly took the stuff from the shelves? I like that! Personally, I'm surprised it didn't flash-off right away. I've had that issue but it's a small problem. Good comments also! We're watching and enjoying. Thanks!

[@46willysj]

Thank you so much for all your work. I’m 42 years old and work as a machinist here in mid Michigan where I “grew up” 😆 Your videos are very helpful as there is always something to learn in this awesome trade. I have worked at a few different shops now and it amazes me how many different things are done in different ways. My newest job has mostly manual machines and a few proto trak machines. Wonderful monarch lathes with all bells n whistles. Been awhile since I was on manual machines so your videos where able to refresh my memory. In a local chemical plant you may heard of there are lots of oddball parts so it has been a learning experience 👍 Keep up the great work my friend! Ps I’m going to join the family in the pool, it’s 🥵 hot here! 🏊‍♀️

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@jerrywilson9730]

Just wondering, why is there a ball on the end of that gauge rod?

[@BrianEltherington]

LOL, funny you should ask!

[@angelramos-2005]

Very good video.Thank you.

[@mikelove9832]

I Like That stuff ! I find the hoter the tem is 70 and up it works much better ! Thanks ! Straight Ahead ✌😎

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@scottjones7279]

The hired hand😂 I was told a while back that when spend money on things like this you are buying or renting some free time. Since the inflation hit I have slowed down on my time rental.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@timmienorrie]

Nice. A real bargain find even factoring in the cost of the Evaporust.

[@theseldomseenkid6251]

In many cases, prior to using Evaporust, I give the part a bath with Simple Green to remove any dirt, oil, and other grime. If the part comes out of the Evaporust (like the part in the video) with a black film, I will use Simple Green and a scrub brush to clean it up.

[@garthbutton699]

Enjoyed your video,too bad about your hangover🤗😎😎

[@railfan439]

Just got back from the Bar-Z. Wish you were there. I would liked to have met you. Thanks for the video. Jon

[@mrpete222]

😀

[@dicksargent3582]

If you don't mind the smell of Pine-Sol it removes rust with about the same effectiveness for much less cost.

[@stxrynn]

Really? I'm heading to the store then!!! Thanks for the tip.

[@user-rk4zm3nb5f]

Be careful with those reruns of Gilligan's Island. At our age it is a short cut to dementia.

[@mechaform]

Saturday morning Shop Class. No better way to start the weekend.

[@argee55]

Mr. Pete, I couldn't help but notice that finial thing on your indicator. Do you have any idea what that's for? 🤯🤯

[@grntitan1]

Good score. Can’t have too many set up accessories.

[@CraftedChannel]

Muriatic acid with paper towel to get down in the pits. Love to find a few small ones like that. Thanks for the word.

[@bobd.]

Nice find. Like you said worth the $2 and a couple hours cleaning it up. Couldn't you take a skim cut on the mill to clean up the faces and remove the little bit of pitting?

[@dougvanallen2212]

Hey Mr Pete I prefer Bonanza over Gillagans Island

[@kurtjohnson3496]

Gun smoke for me😉

[@simpleman283]

@@kurtjohnson3496 Rawhide.

[@MrPossumeyes]

Beverley Hillbillies over here! Or Hogan's Heroes

[@ypaulbrown]

like the displacer idea 3:02

[@johnmolnar2957]

thanks for the video. as they say, good enough for the girls I go out with

[@Tristram_de_Lyones]

Do you have a buddy with a surface grinder? It would be neat to see that process.

[@mrpete222]

Yes. Ellie is going to surface grind it

[@glennschemitsch8341]

Hey Mr. Pete, you could use the finial with the surface gage and indicator to check squareness! But first you must check that the two sides are parallel and try to check for flatness on the surfaces. Use your master square to set up the indicator.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bigjim8088]

Wow! Just realized you have a few videos I need to catch up on. Its waem weather for sure now....Hows that Southbend mill treating you?

[@debztully1339]

Yeah!

[@mikesgabellone5089]

i think an old school wrinkle black paint job would be in keeping some tools , which are old school, should look

[@brianburke7440]

Seams an ideal job for small shaper. Would this `set` 90 to shapers 90? How tram?

[@yomama5785]

In that smaller container, a paper towel over the top will keep it wet and working.

[@zoltannagy1813]

That thou and a half would have bothered me. I would have set it up on the mill and used a fly cutter to skim it.

[@walterretlaw4051]

I didn´t understand. What happened with the precission of the square he´s using for sand the other one..?

[@slypig24]

Do you put the Evaporust through coffee filter paper before you return it to the container?

[@simpleman283]

After use put in separate container.

[@slypig24]

What I should of asked, was, Has anyone tried putting the used Evaporust through a coffee paper filter?

[@mrc1539]

@@slypig24 , have never done it till now, and I think it’s a great idea and will try it soon as the coffee is done 😉 !

[@BrianEltherington]

Coming soon; Hand Scraping an Angle Plate? One of the few processes missing from your repertoire by my recollection.

[@customcutter100]

It appeared to me that the .001" difference was due to the pitting. Gauge was reading dead on until you got to the pitted area.

[@mrpete222]

True

[@radiusnorth1675]

A question if you please. Isn't moving the indicator side to side measuring that surfaces parallelism with the edge you tapped down on the surface plate?

[@ellieprice363]

The indicator measured the flatness of the face and parallelism of the face and opposite edge.

[@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire]

If you drink soft drinks and buy them in 2-liter containers, the bottles would be good for things like this... They will deform around odd shapes and if you use a heat gun on them, they can be shrunk so that they would not waste as much space for odd shaped objects...

[@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes]

I use a small granite plate with wet or dry paper along with WD40, in place of water (frankly I hate WD40, it's one of the only times I even use it for anything) but that works decent for hand "surface truing"

[@charlieromeo7663]

I enjoy these little projects too. Hoping you enjoy your next batch of chicken salad while watching Gilligan’s Island. Are you a Ginger, or Mary Ann guy?

[@mrpete222]

😀

[@tomherd4179]

She must love you, mine would have killed me!

[@dauber1828]

That evaporator rust is A number one but there’s other products out there you have to be careful of it gives off hydrogen gas

[@alandesgrange9703]

When my Evaporust doesn't go quite to the top, I soak a paper towel with it, and stick it to the item.

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Ms Pete’s cookies also clean your teeth 🤩 wow

[@ellieprice3396]

Some of you old timers may recall the old Peach Snuff logo; "Sweetens Your Breath and Whitens Your Teeth"

[@glennmoreland6457]

"while my wife was watching wheel of fortune" Lol..... 🇬🇧😐

[@michaelleskoske7723]

According to the app on my phone the $10.98 from 1955 is now $114.13 in 2022.

[@mrpete222]

Wow

[@jeffhulett4194]

For two dollars you got a great deal.

[@ellieprice3396]

Watch for future videos after surface grinding and painted with blue/grey gloss enamel.

[@rmr5740]

I'm surprised you didn't use the "gold standard" of shop clean-up, the Wife's toothbrush.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@jimdean7335]

I doubt the after taste of Evaporust is as bad as carburetor cleaner........

[@gabewhisen3446]

You dont find hat stuff here is the south west hardly ever if at all. I need to move out east

[@mikenixon9164]

I'll give you 4 dollars & you have doubled your money. Good video.

[@paulpipitone8357]

I have to ask Ginger or Maryann

[@aerogfs]

No newspaper? go to a supermarked, hardware store or anywhere else that still uses printed offer flyers.. leaflets...or whatever they are called.. by far not the same, but it'll get th job done...

[@4SafetyTraining]

Great $2.00 spent…

[@gpcivil8807]

The evaporust cost more than a new angle plate did 40 years ago

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@jangoofy]

Sir, there are armatures watching your videos, do not use "last word" in titles, it scares us.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@georgewood6167]

No such thing as “suction”😁

[@ellieprice3396]

Is too. Try pulling a big setting hen off a nest of eggs.

[@Aetherling]

I recently discovered Evaporust. It’s a great product and actually works!