Best CRT for Retro Gaming: Sony KV-36FV310

[@Scarflix]

Hey all! The song I used at the end of the video is Stefan Zauner's "Mr. Loveday's Evening Store"! You ALL ROCK!!! 📺📺📺

[@chrisbullock6477]

The closest we ever got was plasma. Aka pre oled

[@crteaser9726]

Have you calibrated your crt your colors look kinda washed out but may just be the lighting

[@dangr3957]

Congrats for the telly! But by the way on composite many games looks better because of the dithering! Check waterfall in Sonic!

[@dangr3957]

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[@crteaser9726]

@@dangr3957 not to say rgb is the only way to go but most people who want this tv want their games to looks better than it did back in the day composite on a crt is definitely better than hooking directly to flat screens but if you have the option i think color correctness and fidelity in rgb (so i high res textures arent as blurred on n64 and other 90s consoles) is way more important than seeing the transparent water falls or other transparency effects on genesis most games are playable without the transparencies but i also have a genesis on composite for that reason on a separate crt

[@RVC1510]

Our parents used to say that video games would damage CRT TVs. 30 years later and video games are actually keeping CRT TVs alive.

[@ةرويميبمبممبم]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@ةرويميبمبممبم]

Me too and im a Middle Eastern this shows that this was a global thing

[@apenastorugo]

@@ةرويميبمبممبم me too, and i'm brazillian xD

[@ray_sattler]

It could burn-in when you left the pause screen on for to long^^

[@jesss7858]

Lol

[@jakesteel2423]

I would love to see Sony bring back the Trinitron or bvm line for retro gaming.

[@Scarflix]

Fkn same!

[@alexvids9232]

I wish. Jeeez

[@keychain___8836]

It would be extremely unprofitable as retro tv’s are still around, and the tv’s would only cater to a market of specifically 30-40 year old men unlike younger generations have less time to play games, and would rather buy a dongle to put retro games on flatscreens

[@richbiles230872]

@@rap6439 less than 20 games?

[@agamaz5650]

WHY WONT SONY MAKE A NEW CRT?

[@justinrieger3133]

When i worked in the moving business we used to call them “Trini-TONs” cause of how much they weigh. Only smaller screen tv we needed 2 people to carry

[@razorkill8522]

Because quality is heavy

[@MrBurgerphone1014]

I've got a 30" Toshiba CRT and it weight like 130lbs.

[@docgonzo1973]

When I worked for a tv repair shop. We only worked on Sony TVs. I remember replacing a 40" CRT on a Sony under warranty because the 40" were plagued with defects in the glass and would have tiny bubbles in the glass. When the new CRT came in. The shipping weight was 300lbs and took 4 of us to install the new CRT.

[@Blind0062]

@@docgonzo1973 4 people for something that only weighs 300lbs?

[@ot4kon]

@jackthegamer this tv weights 80kg or about 176lb it was a pain in the ass to move it.

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

As someone poor enough to not have owned a composite compatible TV until nearly adulthood, it was NOT the worst option and was a major step up from what I was using, coax.

[@Scarflix]

Oh wow!

[@hecanseeme8210]

My friend had one of these. I helped him move it twice and then told him I’d never move it again. It is the heaviest tv I’ve ever seen. I’d rather move a piano, at least you can get a hold of it. It is a great tv but be aware you may need to hire a team of oxen and enlist an Amish barn raising party if you ever want to rearrange your room decor!

[@MultiMarvelGeek]

I have a KV-36XBR800. It weighs 15 more lbs than this. Took my two beefy friends and I 90 minutes to get it up 18 stair steps.

[@slenderfoxx3797]

Oh trust me been there. Not only is it heavy but you're paranoid the whole time that you'll drop it and break it (and your hand or floor or whatever else the TV will take down with it lmao)

[@Microwave414]

CRTs are the best way to play retro games hands down, perfect blacks and no input lag and just the right amount of softness to where the image even on component video doesn't look overly sharp. However there are some shaders on retroarch that when combined with an oled comes really close to mimicking the look. CRT Royale comes to mind as that doesn't mimic a PVM but a real honest to god consumer grade trinitron TV with scanlines and low count TV lines also which are the vertical lines that makes each "pixel" look separated from the next one over if you get up close to the screen. Heck it even mimics the glow effect of CRTs though, on an oled that's slightly redundant since oleds have that same exact glow effect also over bright sprites also. I'm not going to be throwing out my CRT anytime soon but its good to see the look preserved.

[@Scarflix]

I'm gonna check out CRT Royale today

[@charvelgtrs]

LCD monitors are down to 9ms measured from the middle of the screen which is only 1ms worse than a standard CRT. Nobody is gonna feel a difference of 1ms.

[@Microwave414]

@@charvelgtrs To me lag is not the issue, what is the issue and I've seen it even on gaming monitors is blurring when things are moving fast, also black levels are something LCDs can never, ever get exactly like CRTs or oleds. Even FAL screens still have light bleed plus costs 3k to get something you can somewhat compare to an oled. On the flip side LCDs don't have to worry about burn-in which honestly is a legitimate trade-off between the 3 display types so there are real reasons to still use an LCD.

[@charvelgtrs]

@@Microwave414 OLEDs have no motion blur and perfect blacks. Burn in really isn't a problem unless you don't vary your content. I've heavily games on my 2006 Plasma and it still doesn't have any burn in.

[@Microwave414]

​@@charvelgtrs I've seen motion blur on my oled when playing sonic 2 or sonic CD and going at top speeds through an act so I'm pretty sure it still very much exists however, I am also running on a late 2015 model OLED so that might explain it. Also its barely noticeable and you really do have to go looking for it while on LCDs it's hard not to see the motion blur, especially in 2d games. Lastly yeah with burn-in I don't really think about it, most people I've seen complaining about burn-in either had a faulty screen from the factory or had news and/or sports running on their screen almost all day long. You really have to work hard and/or be really stupid to ruin an oled.

[@RenegadeX28]

One of my friends had this TV in his room during the XBOX/PS2/GCN era. He was the only one of my friends that had access to COMPONENT inputs, so seeing all progressive scan/480p capable games playing on this TV was glorious. Also, running those retro games were amazing on a CRT like this one. I really....really miss the non input lag days of playing retro games.

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

Is this an ED TV which goes from 240 to 480i and also 480p?

[@MultiMarvelGeek]

@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 No, it's just standard definition.

[@turkeyboyjh1]

Kids will never know how good we had it stuff was lightning fast as far as input lag went, and the gentle glow, no hard lines just like really like what the image is too crisp it looks fake when you look at a crt it’s like you’re looking through a window at real life especially large ones from a distance

[@jamesmurray4312]

I had the 27 inch version and it was one of the greatest TV's Ive ever owned

[@bigpoe3379]

Me too. I attached my PS2, N64, and my Wii and it is just fantastic :D

[@nathanc6516]

I think yours is better than the 36 inch to be honest.

[@code.liplox]

@@nathanc6516 why?

[@nathanc6516]

@@code.liplox The pixels start getting too large for my tastes at 36 inches plus it weighs like 150 lbs more than the 27 inch. You can sit closer to the 27 inch and have a better experience, in my opinion.

[@code.liplox]

@@nathanc6516 Well, I dont think the weight is a big deal, since the TV is installed. Im asking which one has the best image for you. What distance from the 27' you recommend?

[@MeowStationOrignal]

I was born in 1996 so I was really happy to be apart of the tail end of the crt era. My family kept our 24 inch crt tv in the living room until 2011 feels like yesterday we got the new flatscreen.

[@gfdchugh]

I was born in 97 and we used crt till 2014 cuz we were poor xD I used to hit it at the back just cuz it wants to die until it had a hole at the back of it were I hid my money xD

[@ethanwasme4307]

same... such a unique position and vantage point 😅

[@raidthanfl]

Thats pretty awesome. I was born in 82. We had a small black and white antenna tv in the kitchen. And our zenith in the living room. The zenith lasted over 20 yrs

[@SuperSkandale]

CRT monitors are like my long lost love. I love them and keep coming back to them every now and then and just can't let myself forget how beautiful they are. I just hope they will come back to me in a new and revived form before i'm too old to appreciate them any more.

[@thejeffchen]

I got a 36FV300 last year and modified it to add a RGB SCART connection. I proudly call it my best project of 2019, and this baby is getting on really well with my army of retro consoles. 240p sweetness forever!

[@kirbo-db6mw]

Doesn't it have component though?, Why waste your time if it has component

[@michaelf1303]

​@kirbo8076 Technically "component video" is a different signal. RGB via SCART is a similar but different signal compared to YpBpR component that we have in North America. This mod would make it easier to use RGB consoles without the option for component output. I'm guessing at least

[@Red05x]

Resident Evil CODE: Veronica X is by FAR the most beautiful Game i own to watch on my CRT. Well, 3D Game, at least. 2D is CAPCOM vs SNK 2.

[@Scarflix]

AGREED!!

[@Ineedagoodscreenname]

I think I broke my knee when I got my FV310 as it was a one man job and then I did it again when I got a XBR960. The contrast and color of these old tvs are just something you have to witness in person and anime's are crazy with the color they put out. I use a hdmi to component box to use my laptop, but I think it's limited to 480i.

[@Scarflix]

480i is cool, I'm drinking that 480i kool-aid. What converter are you using? I'm looking for one right now but afraid of lag and stuff.

[@10000viewer]

what resolution is the output from your laptop and what resolution does your crt receive it and process it at?

[@DrKeez]

Something of note to add, the FV310 models had Sony's PVM circuitry added along with the same voltage regulator used in their high-end PVM's to address bloom from bright scenes. One of several reasons it is a unicorn to retrogamers.

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

What about the 210 models? I found a KV-32FS210 and it looks great

[@patsfan4life]

I remember that 16x9 enhanced mode- so cool ! You could actually hear the electron gun realign itself when you switched to this mode

[@dorianplayerone]

i didnt know that

[@Sugurain]

I got a 32" Philco 16:9 CRT recently, the picture quality is so phenomenal that it looked like a OLED tv or something, minus the HD resolution. When you sit 10ft from the screen or more, you can't tell the difference in resolution anymore, all you see is that AMAZING contrast and INCREDIBLE colors. Being widescreen, modern content looked perfect on it, such as movies. I bought an HDMI to Component converter, with the ability to downscale FullHD content to 480i, so now I can hook my PS4, PC, etc to my CRT. lol For retro games that were originally in 4:3 format, it supports that too. The screen is big enough that a 4:3 image in it is as big as a 29" TV screen. Since then I've ditched my LED TV, the image quality is SO BIG, that I'll hapily trade the high resolution of the LED for it. They say the last plasma TVs from Panasonic and OLED TV can rival the picture quality of these CRTs, but I can't easily get my hands on one right now, so I'll keep using the hell out of my CRT for now. lol

[@c0rpse1]

if you are really into CRTs keep an eye out for a nice old PC crt. can still find them. I recommend anything with a 110khz or higher horizontal scan rate. Some people complain about Samsungs but I had one that looked ok. You will also need a graphics card with analogue out(newest cards with this are 900 series), possibly a dvi analogue to vga converter (small piece that makes it so you can use a vga cable instead of dvi cable), and possibly a VGA gender changer(if the pc crt has a cord on hard wired). You can have a lot of fun getting high refresh rates out of them + all the positive crt traits you listed in the video. I know you mainly want to game on that 36 inches though lmao.

[@Scarflix]

a PC CRT is high on my list of things to track down. I'm keeping my eye on local craigslists for them. You're right though, it would be so0o0o0o0o0o sick to game on the 36" 😂

[@FrothingFanboy]

High-end CRT PC monitors are becoming pretty hard to find. I had to have one shipped from Florida to Canada - the casing got damaged in shipping, but it still worked. However, due to misuse (rapidly switching resolutions in a vain attempt to get it to work with an overly modern video card), the flyback eventually started arcing (and high-end flybacks are virtually impossible to find). I had to get another monitor shipped from ENGLAND, but this time it didn't survive shipping - the mainboard was weak from years of heat exposure (CRTs can legit warm a room) and cracked. My last hope is to swap the flyback from the latter into the former. Note that this is only possible because both tubes (and hence the flybacks) are EXACTLY the same model. This isn't for the faint of heart, because CRTs store dangerous levels of voltage. I sent away for specially rated gloves to handle the innards and discharge the voltage.

[@coreysmith4111]

Holy shit I still have this tv plus the stand for it. Had it for several years. I love it

[@pt8333]

Corey Smith Hey my friend, long time no see. Pls send TV. You’re the best

[@dorianplayerone]

heyyyy,,,,, how much???

[@RealTDragon]

CRT vigilante has appeared!

[@Scarflix]

He's my favorite boi.

[@zizarami3270]

@@ScarflixHi ! this TV is better than the Bang and O crts or equivalent ?

[@krinkov39]

For a short period they made the 1080i trinitrons with a DVI connector on the back. Using a HDMI to DVI cable/connector you can display modern systems at 720p/1080i and it doesn't have the input lag. It's what I use to game with my mini retro consoles.

[@Japheigod]

How are you getting audio?

[@christianumk3plus777]

I have a kv-29fv300 moddified with rgb input and the image displayed is soooo beautiful, even better than my 25 inches wells gardner arcade monitor, i'm really amazed with the results.

[@anhdn3132]

I lost out on two opportunities of get 2 KV-32FV310's on separate occasions because I couldn't take off work or get someone to help lift it. 32" is a beast it is 170+lbs; finally got one today and I felt like I won powerball in terms of retro gaming, I have no feeling in my forearms and my neck is stiff but was it worth it ...YES!

[@jimjones5394]

in 2008 my room mate had an XBox 360 and we played it on a CRT. I didn't even know anything about HD, I never thought the picture looked bad.

[@7kurgand]

Would like to say Scarflix.....really enjoy watching this video. So much love and heart went into this. I feel it. This is going to be my go to video to show to my friends so they can get a good understanding on crt tv, vg cables, and tv lag. And you said having SD 480i crt tv with component inputs is very good option. Recently try it on orginal xbox and it looks nices. Yes most games can run in 480p but its about having choices you know.

[@Scarflix]

Thank you so much 7kurgand. I did in fact put about four or five days into making this video. I became such a CRT nerd very recently and I'm glad I was able to portray the passion!!

[@pabloxd1239]

he is wrong in some things he said...

[@brandonmiller5104]

I picked up a 32" Trinitron XBR from my local buy, sell and trade on FB. Very happy with it.

[@Scarflix]

Nice! 480p > 1080p 🤣

[@Gm-pe4te]

Get your backend back on KZbin! I guess you really dived into retro gaming after this since you dissapeared 😂 Awesome video man! You got all the skills to be a huge channel. With curiosity I looked how man 100's of thousands of subscribers you have and I was shocked to see that you're under 10k. Hope you get back to it some day! Subscribed anyways 😉 I'm on a hunt for a good CRT retro gaming TV...Love the way Sony Tv's look but unfortunately here in UK there's not so much of Crt tv's left. Hunt is on regardless

[@RetroTechUSA]

I just saw myself in the beginning of this video. 😅

[@Scarflix]

What's up Retro Tech!!!

[@forzafan6924]

Do you do rgb mods for hire?

[@panikk2]

The day you put this video out I had just come home with a 36fv310 and it was broken lol. Bad caps (you can see the wave on my channel). Hopefully it'll be a successful restore this weekend.

[@DhinCardoso]

Dude! Did you did it? Did you managed to fix it? Pliz say YES

[@panikk2]

@@DhinCardoso i JUST did today!!!

[@bobdole3157]

Holy crap. Were you nervous? I heard you can die if you don’t know what you’re doing.

[@unrealdevon]

The fact that you can actually get these tvs around your area is a freaking privilege. I can't get anything where i live and i would literally kill to get a Sony set like this.

[@zenitpro]

Amazing! Back in the early 2000's, I had a PS2 (which I still have AND play) hooked up to an LG Flatron 21' TV, and I gotta tell you, it was glorious to say the least. It came with all the inputs of your TV, but in fewer number, and I remember being astounded by its picture quality. Watching DVDs on it through the component cables was simply sick! It was just amazing. I wish I could find one in great shape so I could purchase it and be a very happy retrogaming freak!

[@bamf6603]

Do you remember the model name?

[@zenitpro]

@@bamf6603 It was an LG Flatron RP-21FB32

[@thelatenightattempts]

I drove 2 hours to pick up the 27 inch model that someone was giving away. Unfortunately it had years of use and the colors were all blown out. Bummer but I still have KV-20FV300 that is sharp as hell. Love these late model Sonys.

[@Scarflix]

Damn what a bummer! You think they'd have told you before you drove all the way there!

[@youtubeadmin1588]

Benjamin Foster I just got a 36” Sony wega Trinitron, I can't tell if the colors are fucked up or not. My Sega Genesis looks pretty good, just issues you'd expect with RF. But my 360 looks HORRIBLE. I cannot understand, the colors are faded on 360 but not Genesis 🤷‍♀️ Could be the off brand A-Video cable I'm using, going to find component cables hopefully that fixes it.

[@richbiles230872]

@@youtubeadmin1588 did component cables fix the problem?

[@saintric8007]

The MGS style phone call reenactment with the dude from offerup had me laughing hard

[@RobertKliethermes]

I picked up that same TV about 8 months ago at a recycling center that gives away old working CRT TV's. It is the best CRT I own, and I have 7 of them at the moment. I had to carry it by myself into my house, which I don't recommend. I felt my spine compress as I lifted it onto my entertainment center.

[@theallknowingsause8940]

No joke, I just got that same tv only 1 month ago for free! it's the smaller 27 inch version but it's in the same model range :D

[@Scarflix]

How's it treating you?

[@revupofficial]

Wow

[@Gamevet]

I was thinking this was a Sony Hi-Scan XBR display at 1st. I have a 32" Sony KV-32HS420 that supports 1080i/720p/480p/481. The original Xbox and Gamecube look fantastic on it with component video, as well as my Saturn and Genesis.

[@RazorEdgeBullie]

No scanlines though, plus input lag. Best to get an sd crt for Saturn and Genesis.

[@Gamevet]

@@RazorEdgeBullie I've had no issues with lag. Hell, I've used it play Guitar Hero, Parrappa the Rappa and the like and never experienced lag.

[@RazorEdgeBullie]

@@Gamevet some people are just less perceptive about lag than others. Especially if you're used to the display. I used to play those same games on a 65" LCD and never thought about lag until I tried an SD CRT. I'm sure if you tried one as well you wouldn't think so highly of your HD CRT. Plus, how do you live without scanlines on a crt? It's heresy.

[@Gamevet]

@@RazorEdgeBullie I have a 27" Sony Wega SD CRT sitting right next to it. There is no percievable lag with this CRT running 480p or 480i content. When I do the caliibration for Guitar Hero 2 (480p) it barely registers a 1 ms adjustment. I can put my controller right in front of the screen and press the button and see the flippers move in Last Gladiators, literally as fast as I'm pressing the button. This isn't an LCD.

[@RazorEdgeBullie]

@@Gamevet how is it with 240p content?

[@audiogear474]

I know there's input lag but love my Sony HD CRT for HDMI based game consoles. Properly calibrated they also look great.

[@Scarflix]

I've heard there might be something you can trim up in the service menu of that to try and mitigate the latency on the HD CRT's, but idk, there's so much information out there about CRTs I get lost. I personally would love an HDCRT just for the Blu-rays!

[@audiogear474]

@@Scarflix "theres so much info out there about crts I get lost"-so true. I know just enough to get by. I worked at a TV repair shop for years but I was the VCR tech and didn't really learn much of the TV side of it.

[@weab]

I've found that latency on my Sony WEGA only presents itself when using the HDMI port or while using a resolution lower than 480i over component cables. My theory is that the latency stems from the internal digital scaler. Running a supported native resolution like 480i, 480p or 720p via component seems to work without introducing any latency.

[@DGP406]

Ah, MGS3. I remember playing it on a 14'' Sony CRT back then.

[@Riz2336]

I've still got a CRT laying around in the guest bedroom of my house, it does get that legit feel for retro consoles

[@Scarflix]

Ain’t nothing better! What kinda games do you play?

[@james.b.mcgill]

I have the 27-in version of this television. When I upgraded to a flat screen, I held onto it 'cause I still wanted to play my original NES Zapper games, and my PS2 Gun-con games. I'm so glad I held into that thing. I was a little upset when, about 15 years ago, I saw one at Goodwill when they were selling all of their tube TVs for only a dollar. I paid $700 for mine brand new.

[@araujofi]

your channel is of the highest quality, good luck from Brazil!

[@Scarflix]

Thank you Filipe!!!

[@william18miller]

Doubt you'll see this 2 years later, but that HD CRT can achieve zero input lag for 1080i content. You have to enable HDPT in the service menu, and also the JUMP setting to get 4:3 without pillarboxing. I currently have a MiSTer running custom resolution of 720x540p because it can't output 1080i. However the TV can convert 540p to 1080i without adding lag. Zero lag has been confirmed with time sleuth, and duck hunt, lol. I know you said the picture wasn't good so doesn't matter, but this gives new life to Sony HD CRT's!

[@gammaphonic]

That looks like a pretty amazing set. I’ve got three Sony PVMs and they make retro games look otherworldly good. CRTs are the shit. Also, light gun games. I love light gun games. For me, they’re the chief reason to own a CRT.

[@riggel8804]

I got 2 pvms and a bvm myself but I prefer to play on sony wegas. I have a 32 inch sony wega that looks as sharp as my pvm20m2mdu and the scan lines are fatter than my bvm1911. They do have their own issues though (mostly geometry problems) but if you've been gaming on pvms for a while I would suggest giving the wegas a try. You can find them for free or dirt cheap on Craigslist. If you like light guns you got to try them out on a 32 inch screen. Time crisis on a big screen with a buddy... Hell yeah

[@Scarflix]

I can't wait until I come across a PVM or BVM! I got my eyes peeled!

[@riggel8804]

@@Scarflix it was a lot easier to find bvms and pvms a couple years ago. I uses to call up broadcasting stations and hospitals and ask if they had any. I found 4 this way (cheap or free). It was fun. Unfortunately the surplus pro monitors seemed to have dried up in the last year for me. Good luck finding one under $200. Pvms don't look that different than your wega for the most part. A high line count bvm is going to look different though.

[@chelseaelyn9477]

There’s something about this video that puts a smile on my face. Awesome work bro!

[@GamingWithDrew]

Great video. Great humor and timing, and informative in my quest for a great CRT. Subscribed.

[@Scarflix]

Thank you, Drew!

[@jagheterhopp]

The thing that's special about the FV310 is the high voltage regulator. Aka vertical and horizontal bloom control, similar to what they used in professional monitors, PVMs, and BVMs. For the Europeans, the KV-29X2 also got it. These are the only 2 consumer sets that I know of that got that deluxe treatment.

[@kennynunez6792]

Great vid! Its interesting to me with all the renaissance movement for retro gaming, consoles, etc; that there is NO-ONE making a modern version of the CRT. I understand that the process maybe expensive but I believe that anyone that can fill this niche would make a killing. Many enthusiast would not buy one but several; hopefully this can happen.

[@ThePathOfTheWind]

I'm from Mexico, and in 2014 in my house we only had a 50-inch 1080p television in the living room, but in my bedroom I had an LG CRT tv. I remember the Studio Ghibli DVDs looked amazing on my Xbox 360 Slim. I also remember staying up with my former best friend playing Conker Bad Fur Day on Nintendo 64.

[@enriquerivas8578]

Best way to watch dvds, CRTs are a dream

[@zach.hanford]

Man, I had this TV in my childhood bedroom. I left it behind when I moved out because it was just... too heavy to move. Years later I checked in with my parents to see if I could get it back but they left it behind when they moved out. What I'd give to have that back now.

[@tantaroba1337]

Ever heard of Bang & Olufsen's high quality MX line of CRT tv's, like the MX 4000, 6000, 7000 and 8000, with the 8000 being the best and last one. Because the 8k had the active soundsystem and screensize of the 7k but its own updated CRT and electronics, giving it a even better picture.

[@yvind786]

The MX7000 have active soundsystem

[@tantaroba1337]

@@yvind786 as i said..

[@RazorEdgeBullie]

Yeah too bad we never got them here in America.

[@torquemada3332]

Im picking up a sony trinitron kv-27fs12 this weekend and its basically this TV but 27" and by the looks of it im going to have a blast playing My PS1, N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and wii on it. I hope DVDs and VHS tapes will look amazing on it

[@Survivor-ng4te]

Nice set. I have the KV-36FV300. Very heavy. I have close to 8-10 various size CRTs. I’m thinning out my collection as time goes.

[@Scarflix]

CRT collecting is quite addicting. I have PVMs yet though. I can't seem to find any around Atlanta yet.

[@shinakuma9]

Sell me one of this bro 😢

[@rars0n]

I used to have a Panasonic Tau 36" TV that was very similar to this, it had pretty much every high-end feature for a standard-def TV including geomagnetic correction. I bought it brand new back in 2004 when I was stationed on Guam. It was an awesome TV, but it weighed at least 160 lbs. It was nearly impossible to move with only 2 people. For that reason alone I had to get rid of it. I wish I still had it but I just don't have the capability of holding onto a CRT that weighs that much. Luckily, I have found one of the 27" versions sitting around waiting to be trashed at work, so I am free to take that home. It's still heavy, but only about 100 lbs so it's a lot more manageable. The nice thing about CRTs, which is easy to forget when you've gone the last decade with LCD TVs, is that the built-in speakers often don't completely suck and are actually usable. These Panasonic TVs also have BBE audio enhancement which makes it sound a little better. Picture quality of my Saturn through the S-video input was so good on that 36". I'm just going to grab that 27" and call it a day. I think my ideal monitor would likely be a PVM, but I would have to sacrifice screen size for that, and while I don't necessarily need a 27" TV, I would like something at least 20" or larger and the price of free is perfect. There's also the matter of the fact that this TV already has all of the inputs I would possibly need on it for all of my existing game consoles that aren't using HDMI, so it'll work perfectly.

[@nexxusty]

I have that exact TV and it's better than this.

[@AncientElectronics]

I found my KV-xxFV310 for free on Craigslist. Mine is the 20 some inch model and moving it made me want to die, I can't imagine the weight of the 36 inch.

[@Scarflix]

Mate it's like almost 300 pounds! I have to ring a friend up each time I wanna move it!

[@scerms]

@@Scarflix... its "only" 224lbs for this TV ;)

[@landom9080]

This is the grail of CRTs. In addition to the comb filter, the 310s have a PVM grade voltage regulator. This makes the screen slightly more sterile than its 300 variant. I have the 32” version of the 300 and a friend has a 310. We ran a comparison using RGB scart cables thru a RetroTink Scart to component converter with both TVs calibrated using 240p suite. RGB modded SNES was used. We found that the 310s have slightly less bloom and bleed when running thru the 240p bleed test. You can access the service calibration menus on these models with the remote. This is the one the best ways of calibrating them next to actually opening them up. If you want the best possible picture (depending on system), you’ll need the correct cables. Scart is the best option but you’ll need something like the RetroTink to convert the Scart RGB signal to component to plug into the TVs. Don’t bother with composite, even SVideo is a way better option. As for the stands, my KV-32FV300 came with its own so if you’re lucky enough you can get one with its own stand. The 36” version are monsters. If I ever come across one I’m paying someone to move it. The 32” version was heavy enough. Very good video overall. Unfortunately trying to show how good things look on a CRT on KZbin doesn’t do it justice.

[@ArcadeOne]

“Filling your entire house with them”.... indeed.

[@Scarflix]

This guy knows!!!

[@ponysoftonline4533]

yep. I've gone from 1 to 40 something and trying to get back into the 20s

[@Beltzer0072]

He's not wrong. My house now has three and my CRT monitor for PC gaming is on it's way.

[@Kuli24000]

Accidentally scored a KV-27FV310 because it was the only local free tv. Looked it up after I brought it home and wow was I surprised! Currently use it for ps1,ps2,ps3,nes,snes,wii. She's well loved.

[@WestSide1207]

Damn, I messed up, a few months ago someone was giving one of these away along with the matching stand, but I literally had no friend who was willing to join me on the ride to pick it up. Not that it would fit in my car anyways, though. Need to get a truck and some better friends!

[@FunkSkunkOfficial]

True

[@NemesisApoc]

I've become a CRT hoarder of the last few years and my 2 favorite Goodwill finds are the Sony Trinitron KV-36FS12, which is similar but a little older than the TV in the video, and the JVC AVA-34WP84 widescreen CRT.

[@arashjahn]

Shout out to the Jean Michel Jarre vinyl in the background. I got my copy too.

[@lions1729]

Was lucky enough to be given a massive trinitron (can’t remember size but it was incredibly heavy !) by a relative who was upgrading. It was the same week the first Xbox was launched. Playing halo on that thing for the first time was incredible! Such a massive step from N64 on a small Phillips 20inch. Consoles now (&pcs) are incredible, but there’s no “leap” in tech like the 90s & early 00s. That’s why I think these TVs are so nostalgic. If you can find one - go for it.

[@RPKGameVids]

I've stocked up on a few CRT's, two 21 inch, and two 14 inch, some of them need some work though, and I wouldn't mind getting two or three more 21 inch ones. The CRT that I'm currently using for non HD video games is my Sony Trinitron 21 inch KV-21X5U.

[@huynhngocnamgiang]

LOL your video is so good I was shocked to find out this channel only has nearly 10k subscribers. It deserves millions!

[@godfreake]

HD CRT tvs still produce lag so certainly not the best crt for retro gaming it's still better then playing on a hd LCD

[@gmwithrow]

The FV310 isn't an HDCRT. I don't believe it's "the best".. but it's definitely up there.

[@franklinprichard9151]

True, many games were designed to be played on a curved CRT and will look warped on this tv

[@nexxusty]

@@franklinprichard9151 Lol. No.

[@bulletz4life]

@@franklinprichard9151 thats not true at all, any warping issues is directly correlated to geometry and convergence issues of the CRT itself, which can be corrected with proper alignment and lots of tinkering with the service menu.

[@robertasm20]

@@gmwithrow But is still "DIGITAL CRT" and this is the same shit as HD CRT, but cheaper, without HDMI and without support for higher resolution (so you couldn't even play GameCube and XBox games in 480p). But most retrogamers are morons and doesn't notice. For every person who commend this shit for retrogaming I suggest playing on emulator. Seriously, if you are not concerned about lag, much higher than even modern LCD could produce, you should simply play on emulator with some nice "CRT" shader.

[@MrArkBrian]

Years ago, while driving through an upper class neighborhood, there was a flat Sony Trinitron larger than 27” sitting on the curb. It had at least 2 sets of component connections. It would not fit in my car. I had to abandon it. Brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.

[@joneswarrington7242]

Damn might have been a fv310 because those have dual component

[@MightyistheRCGamer]

Sony trinitron for LIFE

[@Scarflix]

For MF'n LIFE

[@nanoblackz]

I still got the 21 inch version of this since 2002, and it still works great. A good way to play PS1 and PS2.

[@halo3odst]

Pro gamer move: buying a big ass trinitron, one massive chunky boi. Slow gamer move: using it to play ps2

[@Scarflix]

So true lol. I got the ps4 running on it once! Didn’t look super great tho

[@halo3odst]

@@Scarflix yeah, i made that mistake too, unfortunately tracking down an HDCRT is very difficult.

[@halo3odst]

Well i have one have owned 2 and have seen about 5 on the side of the road but the cords were cut. However i have NEVER seen an HDCRT that i have been able to pick up or buy. Also, that only matters for light gun games everything else is workable.

[@mrburns366]

I had an HD CRT television and it was garage! The scaler inside was complete crap. The image wasn't sharp at all. For 240p or 480i just use an SDTV. For 480p and above get a CRT computer monitor.

[@unlovableshinshin]

halo3odst should’ve done snes

[@Mike93Gee]

I had this TV growing up. The remote flips up in the middle, and has a cool PIP feature. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 looks amazing, same with Destroy all Humans!

[@tyisafk]

I love my 36" beast. Currently it's on the floor but I ordered a flat top utility cart to set it on lmao It touts a 500lbs weight limit, so it'd damn well better support a 220lbs CRT! EDIT: Oh, by the way, Raspberry Pi with a RetroTink Ultimate will do exactly what you want in terms of getting a "PC" to output to your TV at 240p. I'm building a consolized Neo Geo MVS and that's what I'm setup in the meantime to play some KOF while waiting for the parts :)

[@Scarflix]

Ty I think you just made me order a Raspberry PI

[@ShaFnZAM]

What kind of cart do you use for the 36" fv310? I'm getting one and need a stand.

[@Jerry4050]

I remember having a 14 inch Compaq monitor and it was still huge for its days in 1998 plus with sliding speakers on the side made it humongous, while the smallest part is the screen.

[@broshiigames8083]

Congrats on the offer-up sponsorship!

[@Scarflix]

🤣

[@ponysoftonline4533]

Watching this on a CRT monitor that I use as my main screen. Love these heavy old beasts

[@Scarflix]

Yessir! Godspeed you keeper of the past.

[@lievenvv]

I'm watching on an Iiyama Vision Master Pro 450, hooked up to a GTX 1070 laptop - the last Nvidia with analog output... In fact, the GTX 9xx series was the last, but my laptop apparently has some neat lil' magic built in! :) CRT colors are the best!

[@retrodoodmanx7161]

OMG the TriniTon, that thing is damn heavy but when it was set up to play my snes, ps1 and ps2 console, it was a great TV

[@quinnhumphrey3472]

This video earned my like when you Dora’d me and I shouted “ITS BAD” about input lag. Well done.

[@alphatrion100]

I've got that beat. I have a 40 inch Sony projection tv. It has scanlines and it works with lightguns. Its the best machine EVER for retro.

[@Null_Experis]

I find that the modular NSF wire shelves make the best furniture for these old heave TV sets. You can get a piece of wood cut and painted to fit on the shelf and it evenly distributes the weight, and the shelves themselves are rated to hold 1000lbs like that, or 800lbs on wheels so a 220lb CRT is nothing. You can even put multiple shelves on it for the consoles and just have a wheel-around retro cart that you can stash away when not in use.

[@cf651]

I found one of these with the stand this weekend, had to spend a tank of gas to pick it up!

[@mkII.]

I recently picked up a Sony Wega 30 inch 16:9 crt off Craigslist and i could not be happier with the tv. It has all of the best of analog inputs and a single HDMI so you can use newer systems on it. I use my ps4 with it, hopefully the ps5 with allow a 720p or 1080i signal. Everything on it looks amazing, crystal clear. 720p content looks jaw dropping. The deeper black levels allow not only for better color but better depth of field also. 3d objects pop more and seem to have more volume. This tv from 2004 displaced a fairly new Samsung 39inch 1080p lcd that was truly gorgeous and its not even a close second in my opinion to this Wega.

[@videogameboutique2196]

32" Sony Trinitron here. I got mine about 6 years ago. A friend at the time was moving into a apartment and said there was a old TV when he moved in that the previous tenant left behind. He ask me if i needed a TV. I was like...fuck no. I then then asked him what kind of TV is it. He said it's one of those old floor model color TV's. My interest was peaked Mind you, i didn't own a CRT at the time, although i wanted one but never really did anything to make it happen. So i asked him what make and model is it, he said it's a Sony. 0_0 I was like...i'll be right there... I was thinking on my way there, "could it be a Trinny? Got there and there it was on the floor in all it's beauty.. Now for a 32" this TV was a BEAST! It took 2 people to lift this thing and i was like...I hope my health insurance is on point... So, after i called my HMO to see if my health insurance is up to date, initiated lifting procedures. Got it home and it rests on a huge dresser with plenty of space to the left and right of it for gaming consoles.

[@ecp4500]

Try get a crt projector. No lag or near impercievable with hdfury adapter. Pain in the but to calibrate but you get an amazing image. Try get a sony g90 or a barco 909 reality or cine9. you can go beyond 1080p.

[@Scarflix]

I'm officially keeping my eyes open for one of those!

[@jeffreihunter]

Just got mine without knowing it´s such a treasure !! Almost gave up on getting it, it was almost impossible for me and a friend to pick it up and put inside my car... then transporting it through the elevator, then making it fit inside my small room... i was asking my self all the time.. "what am i doing? i should let it go..." Now i feel happy having it 😀

[@Scarflix]

Prepare to have the best PS2 experiences of your life. Got component cables? How does the picture look, still crisp?

[@xsparik]

This guy looks like a live incarnation of Donkey Kong. Its a compliment btw.

[@DennisRamberg]

I mean, if the demand is there, I am absolutely sure that it is possible to recreate the CRT-look on a 8K OLED panels, because the pixel density is so high that it is possible to mimic the building blocks of CRT outputs. with HDR and CRT-filters I think it is possible to make something very close to the real deal with intense blacks, amazing brightnes. Regarding latency, with 120Hz we will be able to shave off most of the input latency of the frame buffer, and then we can have pixel perfect 18x 240p output, or 9x 480p output. With a 9x9 or even 18x18 pixels for each Standard Definition Pixel, it's definitely possible to create beautiful RGB patterns, scanlines etc. With proper upscaling, it is possible to smooth out each pixel in a CRT-like manner. If I had the resources I would start a company striving for creating the ultimate retro monitor for computers and consoles, incorperating a top of the line retro upscaler, similar to the OSSC but with higher output resolution.

[@papparaba5504]

It's not that easy… - light emitted by CCFL/LED/OLED is very different from phosphors light (CRT/Plasma tvs), it provides a different naturalness, vividness, "vibrancy" to the colors. - CRTs can reproduce a virtually unlimited amount of color shades. It allow to very precise color reproduction without any kind of dithering (afaik best consumer digital TVs are usually up to 5/6 actual bit per compound, the rest is dithering) - CRT could really be input-lagless. i.e. if you feed a traditional CRT with a direct RGB signal (like RGB SCART here in Europe), the signal will directly drive the 3 electric guns (indeed you can't even adjust the saturation command in this case). It feels like your inputs are executed a little before you perform them... - most important thing: the motion resolution. On CRT you can follow every micro-detail of a fast moving picture (perceived resolution doesn't vary either if the picture is still or moving). You can find something similar only on 30000$ Sony professional OLEDs: they have an option for enabling per lines driving (even in interlaced mode) imitating the CRT functioning, but even so the resolution drops to 700 lines on the resolution test (they are 4096x2160 panels). CRTs don't drop a single pixel. That said, your idea of correctly multiply the pixels is really good. Sure it's better to sacrifice a little of the screen size if needed, always keeping a perfect pixel multiplication.

[@DennisRamberg]

​@@papparaba5504 yeah, I mean CRT technology is of course very different, and the zero input latency is near impossible to compete with, and the virtually endless colors. However the upscaler can fill the frame buffer on a per-scanline basis similar to the OSSC. while applying a pixel-perfect mask during the line rendering while converting and imposing color/brightness spectrum according to the HDR10 standard (but yes. the image will only update once every frame has been drawn) What I am thinking is that the TV will run 60Hz content on the panels 120Hz refresh mode reducing the overall frame latency to 8ms (which is, to most people, extremely negligible). I'm not saying it will be EXACTLY like CRT or actually win the battle. :) But it would create a perceptual lag free experience to most people, with smooth pixel characteristics that we miss so dearly from CRTs. Example of a pretty good superimposed CRT filter is "CRT Royale Kurozumi" kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqPTnmulZpyWfqc (watch in 4K on a 4K- or 1080p screen). I just wish this to be expanded upon and integrated directly into a 4:3 8K OLED. xD "the perfect modern retro monitor". I would of course also love to have different CRT-filters configurable in the TVs native settings for SD content. I guess it's a niche but what modern TVs do to SD content is crazy, smudging and blurring everything to an unrecognizable mess. Treat every pixel with love, now when we have the resolution for it. :) tiny black borders are okay in my opinion, in order to get a pixel perfect image. (however, some inputs need to be streched horizontally, like the SNES 256px wide content), but with a 8K canvas you have pixels enough to upscale it nicely without perceived banding issues)

[@papparaba5504]

​@@DennisRamberg To be honest I don't like scanlines. It seems that some people consider them like a distinctive trait of CRTs lol. Obviously it is a problem related to old videogames-HW's limitations. I really like my 2001 28" Mivar CRT (at the moment I have Ps1, og Xbox and Ps3 connected to it) 'cause it attenuates the scanlines on 240p games (I think is either for a little accentuated bloom and a poor mask which when heated by the rays becomes finer), so the picture is quite compact. About the 120hz thing I think it's not a possible thing to realize. I mean it is possible with frame-rate free PC game but old console games will still internally run at 60hz (you'd still have a input window and an actual game's screen refresh, once every 16ms). This would be useless for the motion resolution too for the same reason. A 120hz BFI could make some improvement. For the rest I agree with you. Just making the emulation pixel perfect on screen would really make a huge difference (perfect sharpness and colors), like playing on emulators (with up-scaling enabled). Little black borders are ok for sure. After all you're forced to have 2 big vertical BB when playing 4:3 games (it's not possible to patch it on 2d games). I think that many people would be interested in a monitor/tv with such up-scaling function.

[@brugtx]

In Brazil, they have the 38” version of this model (KV-38FV310)

[@ThirdEyeCollective]

Whaaaat!?

[@Scarflix]

Oh damn!

[@brugtx]

Scarflix here is the service manual and operating instruction: www.manualslib.com/manual/1308940/Sony-Trinitron-Kv-34fv310.html#product-TRINITRON%20KV-38FV310

[@brugtx]

Third Eye Collective If I am not wrong there are 34” and 38” version.

[@felipem4704]

Bruno Fernandes I found a KV-32FS120... worth it?

[@DreadedGrim]

I love CRT TVs...I still have the one that I grew up with playing games and watching stuff on.

[@SteroidApollo-xj1zc]

Over the weekend I just scored a KV-36FV300. And it came with the original remote and it is amazing. Have 5 retro game consoles on it and my cable box along with a dvd/vcr combo. I have it all in my living room and will make the living room my retro room.

[@MindofMichaelMyers]

This video needs more views.

[@Scarflix]

Thank you Anthony. I had a lot of fun making it.

[@turkeyboyjh1]

I still had my parents old massive Panasonic crt when black ops 2 came out for the 360 and when I saw the game for the first time on a digital display I instantly plugged my crt back in the crt it was a much smoother picture and was much better for multiplayer especially since I was on Ethernet straight to Comcast business and we lived only a mile from the service station. It was lightning fast for the time and I didn’t even realize it until I was older

[@TheBlockSociety]

Better have that Diddy Kong 64 pulled up when I get there...

[@Scarflix]

boi stop

[@DJWeissman]

I just sold a 1986 Trinitron for $60 that I got for free at an estate sale. I kind of hated to see it go but I got two 37" CRTs that are really fun to retrogame on.

[@aussieexpat]

Thanks for sharing man. Really awesome. Im not tempted at all... but... it did look great.

[@Scarflix]

At some point I decided the unit was just too rare to not make a video about. What you been playing lately?

[@aussieexpat]

@@Scarflix mucking about with the mini genesis. In Australia, like europe, we played a lot more sega than nintendo.

[@CalixtoSalinas]

I have it in my parents home, just around 400 meters (around 4 Mexican blocks). It’s there gathering dust in the warehouse. The only thing stopping me from getting it it’s the weight. The pain it was putting it in the warehouse was hell.

[@billpatterson9342]

Wait isn't that my Mom's tv you bought for $10 off craigs list? Hope it's working out for you!

[@Scarflix]

Best $10 I ever spent!

[@revupofficial]

Wait what?

[@RetroGamerr1991]

Best way to get a PC to display on a CRT is using a Geforce 9800GTX+ with either the 9-pin DIN "Compupack" connector or S-Video and then super-sampling.

[@charleycastillo5034]

16:34 Nice content. It's awesome that you are uploading videos regularly on KZbin. Thumbs up 👍

[@Scarflix]

Thank you Ethan!

[@pip5528]

I have a very similar KV-32FS320. Not quite as large but still pretty great. I got it a couple years ago from my neighbor who put it on the curbside to give away. I offered to take it and she and her family helped get it to my house since it's heavy (167.11 lbs).

[@matthewstreets3019]

😀 We (me, my sister and my parents) never had that TV specifically, but I do remember growing up with CRT TV's. 🙂

[@JBTYpr]

Very informative and well done video! Thanks!

[@Scarflix]

Thanks JB!

[@brucenova2904]

Your video is a direct inspiration as to why i started hunt these crts 2 years ago. Right now, i have 2 of these in my home, so i can play time crisis with 2 ps2 39000 models to hook them up with firewire/i-link and play as an arcade at home. Thanks man!!! Shout out from Brazil.