LOB WEDGE vs SAND WEDGE Which One do you Really Need

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MrShortGame Golf

MrShortGame Golf

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@gowithgid3274
@gowithgid3274 3 жыл бұрын
I like to play where almost all of my shots a full shots, hence I keep a 60, 56, GP, PW in my bag. I have taken out the 4 & 5 iron. Because I'm 76 I depend on getting up and down around the green more than a much longer golfer would. This approach has kept me at an eleven Hcp.
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 2 жыл бұрын
The cool part of the game is that it isn't one size fits all, everyone has their own preferences and needs and strategies to get it done. 11 hcp is pretty good man, my goal for this season is to get my 15 hcp to about a 10... which I'm pretty sure is going to happen because I'm taking putting more seriously. Cheers.
@gasperstarina9837
@gasperstarina9837 2 жыл бұрын
Woow 11 hcp at 76 👏👏 amazing
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
interesting, i almost never play a full swing with my wedges. and i can’t find uses for the gap and sand…lob for everything.
@nerdalert545
@nerdalert545 Жыл бұрын
This is the best youtube channel to learn about golf or have your questions answered. I just bought a 52, 56, and 60 degree wedge and I never use the 60. I got on youtube to confirm I wasn't crazy and now I'm switching to a 54 and 58, or a 52 and 58.
@Tognar
@Tognar 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, the prevailing wisdom was to use a 56º and learn to use it a variety of ways... this is what I'm still doing. And while my short game is trash, it's nice to just know it was all me that screwed up versus second guessing if I played the right wedge around the green. That's my logic anyway.
@williammartella7616
@williammartella7616 3 жыл бұрын
I still pretty much do this. I had a 60 for a while, but didn't like it. Will have 54, 58 this summer, and swap out driving iron and 5 wood as needed.
@jimmydelrio8662
@jimmydelrio8662 3 жыл бұрын
By having this mentally, I have become very good with my 56 wedge. I usually chip in once a round. By practicing with one wedge and having less option you get the feel of it instead of having options.
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 2 жыл бұрын
I think I backed into this "wisdom" because I carry my clubs, I tried to evaluate what I needed vs what was a luxury and tried to keep it simple. I am however considering getting a super wide sole 60 (maybe I'll try a clone Inazone first) or a 64 degree from Pinemeadow to see if I can make use of it (I'm at 9 clubs right now plus a putter so I have room in my bag).
@touristguy87
@touristguy87 2 жыл бұрын
...generally that's probably true but for some shots you just don't want to bring the bounce to the party and it's just too much of a distraction trying to split hairs between the blade and the bounce. A 60 really makes short shots a lot easier and gets me out of bunkers while keeping me on the green much more reliably than a PW.
@IIISWILIII
@IIISWILIII Жыл бұрын
I've been playing around with keeping the same short chip swing around the green and just using my whole bag of irons depending on the distance to the pin. The results have been shocking once I knew the distances of each club on my little chip swing. Like you, I was a 90% SW chipper from anywhere close.
@brucehubbell3526
@brucehubbell3526 3 жыл бұрын
I use my 50 for full & 3/4 swings, my 54 for everything, & my 58 for when I short side myself and greenside bunkers
@JackRainfield
@JackRainfield 3 ай бұрын
I have a 60 and a 64. Love them both. Partial wedges and chips around super fast greens where I need the ball to stop fast. I can't do it with the less lofted wedges. Also for full shots my 56 goes 80 yards, my 60 goes 60 yards and my 64 goes 40 yards. Plus special shots like in the bunker where you are close to the wall and need to get the ball up fast the 64 is incredible.
@icyredpeople8941
@icyredpeople8941 2 жыл бұрын
Ughhhh!!! I finally broke down and put a 60 in my bag and now I'm searching for videos on the appropriate time to use it and this is the 1st video I watch. FYI, This would be club #12 in my bag so I still got room. 60, 56, PW, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 23 degree hybrid, 3 wood, driver and putter. I am intentionally trying to stay under 14. I was going with 9 clubs for a bit and slowly that number is rising but still "slowly" so I can take note of what I actually "need" on the course. Right now I feel I have enough distance and shot style to fill the gaps in distances so I'm focusing on giving myself another option around the green.
@stevefrady3812
@stevefrady3812 3 жыл бұрын
54 and 58. Only use 58 for sand and very short chip shots. Finding myself using the 54 more and more.
@coachgene33
@coachgene33 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!!!
@matthollis1270
@matthollis1270 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I use a 50*, 54*, 58*. 58* is for sand and short chips around green only or short sided shots from off green. 50*/54* for all pitches and chips that allow any roll-out.
@HabsFan64
@HabsFan64 3 жыл бұрын
I agree for me, 60* is hardly used. I go PW, 50*, 56*.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Southern California now for the last 4 years. When I started to replace my equipment in 2017, I decided I would add a 46° Vokey SM6 to be my PW, as I was replacing my older 50°, 54°, and 58° Vokey Wedges. Along with the 46° and 50° SM6s, I chose a 54° V Grind with 10° Bounce and a "low bounce" (06°) 58° K Grind. I will use the 58° up to 80-85 yards. I prefer the 58° for tighter grass lies and firmer Bunkers. I will use the 54° for "teed up" lies, deeper rough, and softer Bunkers. For Around the Green I vary club choice based on Lie, Distance to Landing Spot, and Amount of Distance from Landing Spot to Hole, so sometimes 6 Iron through 58°, which is 8 Clubs.
@michaelrogers9484
@michaelrogers9484 3 жыл бұрын
Due to a shoulder injury I'm not particularly long off the tee. I have a 72 degree wedge that, regardless of how hard you hit it, maxes out at about 45 yards. I really enjoy it to attack pins on the short side of the bunker.
@islandknight6105
@islandknight6105 Жыл бұрын
Try a 90 degree … it goes straight up ! Max distance with full swing = 5 yards.
@danielcohen3159
@danielcohen3159 3 жыл бұрын
First of all: that is a sick backing track, Matt. Love it. I'm a 52º and 56º guy and always have been. But I also like to get the ball on the ground and run it. But 40-80 yards pitches, the 52º is a real all-rounder for me. 10º of bounce so you can play it square, open it up, good for most conditions. And I tend to chip with lower-lofted clubs: 9-iron, PW, and Approach wedge, which is 48º, I think. Arccos tells me up and down % for the short clubs are: 8 iron = 33% 9 iron = 46% PW = 53% AW = 45% 52º = 29% 56º = 30% So it looks like I don't chip with 52 or 56 very often, and when I do...it doesn't go well. So I need to practice there, apparently. I see so many players now automatically grab their 60º wedge when they miss a green - no matter how close or far back they are, and no matter what the lie is. And then they try to flop everything right at the pin. Even if they're on the fringe. Sure, if you have to go over something and land it soft, open it up and hit it higher. But there's a big difference between a lofted chip and a flop shot. A flop shot should really only be a last resort. It means something has gone very badly wrong. Hardly anybody putts from off the green or uses a 9-iron. I'm not sure why. But a large skill set is more or less disappearing from American golf.
@mitchellwasmus435
@mitchellwasmus435 5 ай бұрын
Makes sense from a pro perspective, it’s easier to control the air then it is the ground for them, average joes should try to keep it on the ground as long as possible IMO
@jmu4508
@jmu4508 3 жыл бұрын
I use a 55 SW and a 60 LW, I only use the 60 on greenside rough and bunkers. The 55 I use almost everywhere- deck, rough, sand, tight, hardpan, soft, full shot, partial, chip. I think the SW loft and wider sole on mine has allowed for more versatility, and I think it really is easier for more players to manage. You can miss hit the SW a little and sometimes still get an ok result compared to miss hitting a 60. For me there was never a need to use the LW in similar situations vs the SW. BUT where the 60's specialty comes in around the greens from those troubled lies it's a spectacular performing club, and I had some incredible sand shots and even a hole-out or two from the rough with the 60. If you can handle it, bag the 60 but don't get cute with it. Know your game, your capabilities and limitations on what kind of shots you can play.
@andersjson4380
@andersjson4380 3 жыл бұрын
54 and a Cleveland smart sole S (58), easy peasy club from all locations..
@Coachandrewjames
@Coachandrewjames 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video! I love how he explains everything in such simple terms that even me, a beginner with lots to learn, can understand it.
@brynwest4495
@brynwest4495 Жыл бұрын
simple... i'm still fucking confused
@christopherhemming8115
@christopherhemming8115 3 жыл бұрын
Went out for 36 holes on the local Par 3 course to try this out. Definite improvement with my 56 degree as the morning went on, but I think I used it to the detriment of my PW and 8 iron for some chip shots. My lob wedge stayed in the bag all morning. A learning experience for sure. Thanks.
@janmichaelberan2545
@janmichaelberan2545 3 жыл бұрын
I play from the trees as rule. I need the 60 to get over the pines.
@roryheath9536
@roryheath9536 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video discussin graphite shafts in wedges and why you like them. It's a huge topic that oculd use a lot of discussion and analysis. Thanks!
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 3 жыл бұрын
I've fought this battle for yrs. My solution. Weaken your PW to 47.5-degrees (Tiger uses 49 degrees). Strengthen your 54 to 52.5. The KEY is to have a 54/55/56 multi-grind (heel&toe relief wedge) strengthened (this allows you to open it for bunker & chipping). Then you want a similar grind 56 mid bounce wedge, that you bend to 58 or a 58 wedge (again mid bounce multi-grind heel&toe relief wedge - also can use in bunker). Your 3-wedge system is now 47.5, 52.5, 58 (thus 5,5.5 degree spacing) - then Add 21 or 16-degree Hybrid
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 2 жыл бұрын
I carry my clubs most of the time, I think I'll keep my 56 and be done with it (my set is Dr/3H/5i, 7i-GW and and a 56). That's 9 clubs. Once I get really good with those, maybe I'll start adding clubs back in, but I think this is how I'm going to start my season and see what happens. Gapping isn't a huge issue for me given the courses I play, I find more than enough overlap with my longer clubs to get to a point where I have my pick of which scoring club I want to use a full swing on, this is why I started taking clubs out and realized I could play just the same, if not better with fewer clubs.
@TrueNorthGolf
@TrueNorthGolf 3 жыл бұрын
I roll with a PW, 52, 56, 60. For me 60 is pretty situational, 56 is mostly sand-60 yards and around the greens/60+ yard shot I'll bump my 52. Love the vid brotha 😎👍⛳
@jeffbehringer1262
@jeffbehringer1262 3 жыл бұрын
I use 58 instead of 56 and 60. It’s the most worn club in the bag.
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbehringer1262 I was actually debating that same strategy myself... split the difference!
@mikeboykin904
@mikeboykin904 3 жыл бұрын
You just confirmed what I have been telling myself I get in more trouble with the 60 than with the others. Time for her to go!!
@Bonneb01
@Bonneb01 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought myself a lob Wedge, and now you come with this video!
@SeanNsl
@SeanNsl 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you
@MH3GL
@MH3GL 3 жыл бұрын
Learn to use it, and enjoy it. 👍
@isaiahstanley1148
@isaiahstanley1148 3 жыл бұрын
Dude i love my lob wedge my 48 is one of my most used clubs. Super easy to pitch over bunkers 40-50 yards pitch in get the spin and stick.
@louispounds7486
@louispounds7486 3 жыл бұрын
Don't sweat it I use my 58 way more than my 56, in fact, I'm thinking about dumping the 56.
@Indycrr
@Indycrr 3 жыл бұрын
I rarely ever like to use my 60. The only thing is that the bunkers at my home course tend to get hard packed in the summer and my 60 has less bounce than my other wedges and outperforms in that scenario. I use my 56 a great deal more but don’t really have a big gap to fill so the 60 rides along
@touristguy87
@touristguy87 2 жыл бұрын
true, I rarely play my 60, but when I do it's always my $150 Callaway and it always accounts well for itself.
@2Eaglez
@2Eaglez 3 жыл бұрын
Took lob wedge out of my bag years ago. I have a 56 face forward that can be opened up to suit bunkers and short side shots. As a senior player I couldn’t hit the lob wedge more than 50 yards and soft swing gap wedge will do the same and the direction is usually on line. I don’t use fairway woods my hybrids are 16,19, 22, and 25 degrees.
@phileoness
@phileoness 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with ya. I use my 56 all the time. The other day, I hit a flier over the green and had to come back to a down slope green. I took out my 60, with which I don’t really practice. Needless to say, I went from needing an up and down for par to trying to save bogey. I think if I practiced with it more, I wouldn’t come up short. But I can flop a 56 no problem. So it just doesn’t seem to be necessary.
@jakehoover4751
@jakehoover4751 3 жыл бұрын
My 3 iron, 60, and putter are my most used clubs in my bag. I think I’d give up my putter before I gave up my 60 lol.
@adityaxad4914
@adityaxad4914 3 жыл бұрын
i feel u bro
@georgelehman7047
@georgelehman7047 3 жыл бұрын
I was carrying a PW at 44, a Gap at 48 (both are AP3's set make up) a SM6 54 Sand and a 60 Lob. Over the off season I have replaced my SM6's with SM8's a 52 and a 56. Gaping on full shots is sooo much better, and so far I do not miss the 60 at all!! good vid, appreciate the input and validation also on my thoughts,
@nathanpahman5347
@nathanpahman5347 3 жыл бұрын
Great KZbin channel. You do a fantastic job and you've really helped my game! I'm down from a 38 handicap to a 16 handicap!
@rustygolfer3475
@rustygolfer3475 3 жыл бұрын
My 60 is my favorite club. Followed by my 54.
@SaneAsylum
@SaneAsylum 3 жыл бұрын
Same except it is followed by the putter.
@SEOutdoors24
@SEOutdoors24 Ай бұрын
Im in the process of buying new wedges and took my old ones out of the bag. I haven't picked up a 58 yet and I've found myself using a 54 for everything very comfortably with no real reason to get a 58. This video made me feel normal.
@sterlingrice8662
@sterlingrice8662 3 жыл бұрын
I use a 56 with 10 degree bounce. Can run it a bit if need to, open for more lofted shots, and play bunker shots, too. One wedge keeps me from going back and forth about which wedge to use. Just choose my shot, and play it. Simplifies practice sessions, also. That's the key, really. Take your wedge and practice all these shots.
@claytonpetree527
@claytonpetree527 3 жыл бұрын
A good winter setup might be to drop the 60 and just use a 56 in place of the 54 and 60. I haven't done it in YEARS now, but in the past, going to a simple gap then "sand wedge" for EVERYTHING can be beneficial.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
What bounce? I have a 56 in 14 and a 60 in 6. I actually find a midbounce 60 is my preferred club for every situation (sand, chips, flops).
@ottawapop
@ottawapop 3 жыл бұрын
56 large bounce and a 60 low bounce. Depending on conditions, both have their place for me. Hard wet bunkers calls for the the 60, so does clean tight fairways 40-60 yrds out. The 56 gets me out of soft fluffy sand, thicker rough around the green and 60- 110 yrds from pretty much anywhere.
@joeycameron4744
@joeycameron4744 3 жыл бұрын
yep, exactly the same.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 3 жыл бұрын
I carry a 54-10° V Grind and a 58-06° K Grind, both Vokey Wedgeworks for the same Strategy concerning the Lie.
@nickolasmagos219
@nickolasmagos219 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about tour pros getting agitated with their caddies when they get left with 40-80 pitch shots to the green for poor course management on their part and because those can be tough shots to pull off if you don't have a lob wedge in the bag.
@bm4995
@bm4995 3 жыл бұрын
With this vid and your story, that 60 is suitable for pro golfer...
@padrehousecat
@padrehousecat 3 жыл бұрын
I took my 60° out of my bag a long time ago and just use my 54° for everything close or sandy. I also love using my 8 iron for chip and runs just like you taught me
@fretless05
@fretless05 3 жыл бұрын
You have to keep in mind that there's never an easy answer and one person's answers are rarely right for others. For me, I play in the SW where the ground is often really hard; my high-bounce sand wedge often isn't the best club, where my low-bounce 60 works well. I carry 5 wedges, PW, GW, 52, 56, 60. and am thinking or lower in the number to 4 to go PW, GW, 54, 58. For me, that might be a good compromise of (kind of) combining the two most lofted clubs.
@nickinportland
@nickinportland 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 60 it’s my favourite club. But I practice with it every day in my backyard and at the range cause I love it so much. It can be a challenge but fun to hit.
@PeterOldschool
@PeterOldschool Жыл бұрын
I use a PW, 60 lob as my sand tool, and a 64 lob for high or backspin shots. Odd to not have a SW but the lob gives me better forgiveness and feel in sand.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
See, this sounds like me. I rarely know what to do with my 52 mid and 56 high. I just use my 60 for everything inside of my 46…that’s full and 3/4 shots, v’s out of the sand, half and quarter swings green side, brushing chips green side. I’d love to manage my wedges better, but the 60 just seems to do it all. Enormous gap inbetween my PW and 60, however, so I probably need either a 50 or a 52 that I play with full swings like the rest of my clubs.
@BNoel2122
@BNoel2122 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say THANK YOU. I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and have subscribed and will be following you on other social media platforms shortly but I’m just getting back into golf after 10+ years away from the game due to being in the Army and injuries. I’ve been medically retired for a couple years now and recently my fiancé has pushed me back into this game I love so much and use to be good at. Not so good right now but with the help of you and your great videos I’m slowly getting there. Your help though is just making everything even that much more enjoyable so thank you very much for everything you do. Huge fan!!! Do you still have alignment stick covers?
@lgeiger
@lgeiger 7 ай бұрын
I love my 60° wedge. I holed quite a lot with it actually. I never hit full shots with it though, because that thing has no bounce at all. I would fat that 5/10 times on a good day, 7/10 on a bad day.
@RogueGolfers
@RogueGolfers 3 жыл бұрын
Personally 60 is my preferred choice ... 54 would mean pulling my shots letting inconsistency creep in... interesting video keep it up👍
@roddnelson1519
@roddnelson1519 3 жыл бұрын
I like the 58 the 60 always comes up a little short. That little bit more with the 58 seems to work for me.
@rufussthoo4083
@rufussthoo4083 3 жыл бұрын
I play 45, 50, 54 and now 58 (used to be 61). I find I'm only using the 58 (low bounce) from steep downhill lies that, if flat, I would have used the 54 on, or out of deep rough around the greens (common on my home course) or out of tight (compacted) bunkers. So, I use the 58 maybe twice a round, sometimes not at all. The 54 is my go-to for everything else less than a 100 yards in. This video made me think ...
@chrisderkas3835
@chrisderkas3835 3 жыл бұрын
Don t own a 60 degree.Have a 56 in 10deg bounce. After a few Mr.Short game videos don t chunk very often.Can t wait to get to 80 yds. Thanks Matt
@kevinvassago
@kevinvassago 7 ай бұрын
Titleist AP1 stock PW at 45° & AW at 50°, a Vokey SM5 56° S grind with 10° of bounce, and a Callaway beryllium 60° R grind with 9° of bounce. The most versatile wedge set imo
@RumzDizzle
@RumzDizzle 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 60, but everyone has their own preferences… think its because I use it a lot for backyard golf and am just so comfortable with it. Nothing feels better than lobbing one sky high and haing it drop into a chipping net or next to the pin.
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than thinning it and hitting 20 yards past the pin... which is more my style.
@thehorsecockexpress1068
@thehorsecockexpress1068 2 жыл бұрын
absolute donny mate, you make the best golf vids
@mh_golfer
@mh_golfer 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get by without my 60-degree wedge as I use it on almost every shot inside 80 yards. My sand wedge is deadly from 80 to 105 yards as well so have to keep it. Like everything else it comes down to personal preference and how you play.
@johnherman3261
@johnherman3261 3 жыл бұрын
I have pitching wedge, 50, 54, and 58. My 50 is used for my eighty yard shots and my pitch and run shots close to the green. I like all of my wedges so I’m not parting with any of them besides I have all the clubs that make me the poor golfer that I am anyway😂. Love ya brother.
@andygreen2765
@andygreen2765 3 жыл бұрын
I lost my 60 somewhere, best thing that happened to me. Less confusion and now I focus on different ways to use my SW.
@ryanu3708
@ryanu3708 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pet peeve topic of mine. Back before the days of jacked lofts on irons we didn't need a bag full of wedges. I game refurbed Ping Eye2's. I carry a pitching wedge and a sand wedge. Keep it simple system.
@scottmcfarling
@scottmcfarling 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, get rid of the 60. And get a 58! :) I have a sm7 58D that I like a lot more than my sm7 54S, which feels thin unless I put my hands way ahead. Looks like you have a sm8 54D which was not available in sm7. I can hit full shots with the 58D where 60 degree full shots always seemed high risk. Might eventually get a sm8 54D then a 60L for flop shots around the green when short sided with enough grass under the ball to get under it, but not too much to stall it out.
@Softouch333
@Softouch333 2 ай бұрын
Food for thought, though I went the other direction. 52 and 60. My partial wedge distances meet nicely, and I use my 60 for short chips , out of bunkers, and toe chips out of short sided rough. Bonus is greenside my decision making is simplified. High or spin, low or roll.
@RonMcKenzie-bw7iq
@RonMcKenzie-bw7iq Жыл бұрын
You need both. Playing over a bunker with no green to work with and you are 20 to 30 yards from pin you need to get it up quickly so it can land hopefully within 12 to 15 feet from pin. Ok if we are all pros and get lots of back spin but many golf courses do not always have receptive greens and the ball can fly off narrow greens easily and perhaps into a bunker opposite from where you are playing the shot. Am I right? I am 74 and play off 17 - played since age 8. And the reason why I have a competitive handicap is because I have a very good short game. So yes I think you need both. Use it wisely and learn to use it will save you shots for sure.
@Gigity1107
@Gigity1107 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the same wedge setup for years. PW,50,54 and the oldest club in my bag the 60. I just bought a new 58 wedge yesterday to replace it. I'm playing a new course regularly now and the bunkers are deep. 54 doesn't have quite enough loft and the low bounce on the 60 also made it hard to get out. I take your point though. Left that 60 short 1000's of times.
@GSHOCKOUTDOORS
@GSHOCKOUTDOORS Жыл бұрын
I take my 60T out once it gets into wintertime conditions. I don’t need the low bounce 60, which I hit a lot in summer of tight lies, once it gets softer. I add a 4w that’s amazing off the fairway so I can reach the par 5’s that naturally play longer in winter when there’s less roll (I have 10* driver, 13.5 2w and a 20* hybrid) I keep my 46,52 and 56 in the bag and just go long as you said if I’m shortsided. There’s plenty of room to get under the ball in softer conditions so an openface 56 covers bunker shots, rough and high soft shots. In summer I need the height and spin to stop it on the hard greens, in winter 56* is plenty given how soft the greens get.
@martindaniel9785
@martindaniel9785 3 жыл бұрын
I used a 56 only. Anything inside 110, chip shot, bunker, high low... it does it all. I love having this super versatile wedge. See Rocco Mediate. 56 for everything.
@williammartella7616
@williammartella7616 3 жыл бұрын
I primarily use a 56 for everything. With new, 2* stronger lofted irons, I will have 50, 54, 58. I selected different grinds, so that the 58 will help with tight lies, greenside shots, while 54 will be higher bounce, longer pitches, sand, etc. 50 for 100+.
@steveparish4209
@steveparish4209 11 ай бұрын
I play a 45PW, 50GW, 55SW, and 60Lob. 45 = 120-135 50 = 101-119 55 = 60-100 60 = 15-59 All can be used for creative shots less than 100, depending on the trajectory I think the shot requires. I don't like to overswing clubs that impart a lot of spin. I tend to hit lower shots with wedges that stop quickly but don't spin back more than a couple feet, if at all. Which is why I play my 55/60 across such a wide range of distances. Inside 30 yds I probably use the 60 most of the time but around the greens, if there's nothing between me and the hole, I'll typically use a 4-wood with a putting stroke for shots more than 40 feet.
@robertbachman2633
@robertbachman2633 2 жыл бұрын
I am an all MIZUNO player. I have 5 wedges that I change depending on the speed of the greens I'm playing. My PW is 45*. GW 49*.07, SW 54*.12, LW 58*.08, and 2nd LW 62*.08. My irons start at 5 iron, I use a hybrid in place of 4 iron. Driver, 3 & 5 wood.
@kalebroberts934
@kalebroberts934 3 жыл бұрын
I just have a 56 and a 52
@adolfozayas3359
@adolfozayas3359 3 жыл бұрын
I roll with a pw from my set at 46, a 52 and 58. 58 is my sand/lob wedge
@garynewman2935
@garynewman2935 3 жыл бұрын
Like this guy, as long as he hasn’t had too much coffee
@sathyasubramanian5622
@sathyasubramanian5622 3 жыл бұрын
I like a low bounce 58 for tight fairways lies where I need to pick it clean. My sand wedge has 16 degree bounce so its easy to skull on tight lies.
@BB-pg5kl
@BB-pg5kl 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this video. Honestly unless you are really consistent with the flop shot I wouldn't be using a 58/60. So easy to blade them or come up well short.
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore 3 жыл бұрын
I just got 4 wedges this season. And I think for certain yardages it will help with the distance gap so I can make full swings from 80-130 yards!! But around the greens I think there you could get rid of one!!
@ponnappaganapathy9941
@ponnappaganapathy9941 2 жыл бұрын
I personally need both despite the fact that the are both specialty clubs. My SW is 55* and high bounce. My LW is 60* and low bounce. I only hit them for flop shots or out of bunkers. Almost anything else around the greens and I tend to use the 45* PW. Inside 100 yards I use the PW for longer shots. The high bounce SW is for more soft sand and a ball sitting up. The low bounce LW is for hard sand and hard pan ground
@josephdurkin8180
@josephdurkin8180 3 жыл бұрын
I use both sand and lob. Lob wedge is go to club at 80 yards full shot, and within 30 yards 90% of the time. Sand wedge (56°) for 90% of my shots within 85 yards. I'm gunna be switching to a 54° sand wedge because the distance gapping isn't what I would like it to be between the lob and sand. It's only about 5 yards
@PuKimIKE
@PuKimIKE 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 46, standard Pitching, and a 60. Not knowing much, before, about the variety of wedges, I just learned to use my 60, for everything 90 yards and in. Much like figuring out different putters. I just figure out how to use what I have. That being said, I may go back to Goodwill and get a 54. :)
@vladtepes6690
@vladtepes6690 3 жыл бұрын
Personally i play 4 wedges, they are far more use to me than a 3 or 4 iron or 5 wood which i never use in a round
@dibnah46
@dibnah46 Жыл бұрын
I use the same wedge setup. Pw is 43 though. then 50 gap, 54 sand and 60 lob. I only use the 60 if i need to get up and over a bunker with no green to work with. The 54 sw is very versatile
@timgreeson3473
@timgreeson3473 3 жыл бұрын
I played a 4 wedge setup for years, but last year I went to a 46, 52 & 58 so I could add a 5 wood. Best decision for me. The 58 has heel & toe relief, so I can open it up to 64 if needed. My short game actually improved and I filled the 225-230 gap in my bag.
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 3 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what I did - but I added a 19 degree 3-hybrid - i also bent my PW to 47.5 degrees and play a 56/14 Mizuno T20 bent to a smig under 53 degrees - this gives me another wedge with heel & toe relief for around the green & bunker (this was the huge eureka moment for my game) as I now have a more useable 52/53 as it's designed to be opened up versus traditional 52-degree full-sole wedges without heel relief (give it a try)
@DanZhangTall
@DanZhangTall 3 жыл бұрын
IMHO, both clubs are critical. If anything I'd give up the gap wedge first, can still use PW to bump/run or do half swings to cover the gap from the GW. For my setup, SW has more bounce (12) and LW less bounce and the lie is how I decide which club to use. Thx for the vid, i'm a long time subscriber.
@michael2782
@michael2782 3 жыл бұрын
46 50 56 so bite the bullet (trade the 54) and have three wedges available for the sweet spot the more often. Good video esp if you want to get rid of the high lofts 😁
@es2056
@es2056 2 жыл бұрын
Right now I am carrying my PW at 45° and a SW with 56° and 12° bounce. I have a 50° AW on order and I still am not sure when I would be using it since I can pretty much handle any approach under 100 yds. with the two I already have. Anything around 15 to 35 yards to the flag I'll use the PW and on short chips or when needing to clear a bunker I'll use the SW. I'm looking forward to seeing what the AW can do for my game.
@stevejones1563
@stevejones1563 4 ай бұрын
When starting out in golf no wedges, 9 iron open blade,open stance ,worked pretty well and yes I still have my day job , Golf around with one woid,iron and putter and youll see .
@Alstarlacrosse
@Alstarlacrosse 3 жыл бұрын
The higher in skill level, the more advantageous it is to use a 60/58 degree wedge. Pros and high level amateurs should be using a 60 to chip and a 56 out of bunkers. But for the common golfer, this is spot on
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 😊
@chadz6728
@chadz6728 3 жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago he said he was a big believer in having four wedges haha. Most low shots can be manufactured with a pitching wedge. If you can’t get a 75 percent pw dialed in then use a gap. Replace 56 and 60 with a 58 and you got a solid 3 wedge setup
@darthvader1402
@darthvader1402 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I recently got the 7 wood and love it. Thats my extra club. I used a 56 SW which is just right for me
@rackum44
@rackum44 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 52,56,& 60 I use all 3. I been thinking about taking my 8 iron out and getting another hybrid.
@dyn4mic87
@dyn4mic87 Жыл бұрын
got rid of the 60 and have a PW, 50, 54 and 58. Gapping works well, rarely use the 58 except for bunkers, rarely use the 50 full shots (has 8 degree bounce for those harder/firmer lies similar carry to my PW), and use 54 for pretty much everything else. Contemplating taking the 50 out as it doesn't get used that much, can make my PW work the same distance just not as much spin
@txpatriot7038
@txpatriot7038 2 жыл бұрын
I play P, 52 and 56. Most shots are the 52 because im very good with it. The 56 is for short and high loft. I had a 60 and never got good at it. For training I will use either my 52 or 56 exclusively to get force me to practice with them.
@stevehainestrumpet
@stevehainestrumpet 2 жыл бұрын
I typically will use a 60 for a short chip to an elevated green. The other case would be to hit over a tree or over a sand trap on a short distance. I agree that most of the time it is not needed.
@rymo2976
@rymo2976 3 жыл бұрын
If the greens are super fast it’s nice having a 60 degree wedge
@Stuttering101
@Stuttering101 3 жыл бұрын
Loft=spin
@rymo2976
@rymo2976 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stuttering101 the way you contact the ball equals spin.
@golf007sd2
@golf007sd2 3 жыл бұрын
If you think you have little use for a 60 then a 64 utilization is even less....specially given the distance and places you find balls at. Personally, I love my 60. In time, I think you will find it right back into your bag. Currently, I have 46, 50, 52, 56 and 60 in my bag Time will tell what suits you bag....cheers bud!
@EldredMerricks
@EldredMerricks Жыл бұрын
Love the manor will be there tomorrow
@baccaratnatural
@baccaratnatural 3 жыл бұрын
I like to use 62 degree and go with a lil bit of a stronger grip and deloft as needed to turn it into a 56 or 54 when needed.
@adamkazinec
@adamkazinec 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the content @mrshortgame! Do you have a video or maybe just an opinion of how to set up your wedges for your bag if we were only going to have three. Thoughts on Bounce/loft and grind combos?
@jmart5011
@jmart5011 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've been think about this lately aswell. I have a 56 and 64 I only use 64 out of green side bunkers
@garymartin9898
@garymartin9898 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Video. I usually live and Die by the 60 . I am expanding My shots after watching Your instruction. I don't like making Un Good shots!
@barneygermany530
@barneygermany530 3 жыл бұрын
60° with 3° bounce....👌
@scottysize
@scottysize 3 жыл бұрын
I actually gave up my 60 last year. I dropped a wedge and added a 4W.
@MBATheGreat
@MBATheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
4 iron?
@scottysize
@scottysize 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBATheGreat no. I added a 4 wood. This gave me more distance out of the rough and gives me a longer fairway wood off the tee for when my 3 wood isn’t working. I carry a strong 3 wood for off the tee. (13.5 degrees) My 4 wood is a strong 5 wood and fills in the gap between my 3 and 5.
@MBATheGreat
@MBATheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottysize oh ok! I normally don’t see people rocking those so I wasn’t sure
@scottysize
@scottysize 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBATheGreat as I’ve gotten older, I’ve dropped my long irons and replaced them with fairway woods. So I’m not carrying a 3 or 4 iron any longer.
@blackceeser
@blackceeser 3 жыл бұрын
NIce 80-yard shot. and you bring up a good point about the 60
@christucker7279
@christucker7279 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 56. The 60 only gets used out of a bunker because the K grind from Vokey is incredible.
@BetterLife2023
@BetterLife2023 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the K grind too im my 54 and 60. but feel i have too much bouce (14 deg). Why do you think the K grind is so good?
@christucker7279
@christucker7279 3 жыл бұрын
@@BetterLife2023 it does feel like a lot of bounce at times. Only place I feel comfortable with it is on the bunker. It helps not to dig in and it just slides through the sand. On the fairway it’s not the best for me. I like the lower bounces on the grass
@gammadan1228
@gammadan1228 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what I do... 56 with 14 degrees of bounce and a 60 with 4 degrees. Covers alot of scenarios
@benjambrooks
@benjambrooks 2 жыл бұрын
What white Tour AXS shafts are you using and why do you like them?
@chrish6412
@chrish6412 3 жыл бұрын
Within 50, definitely my 60. I practice clock positions of the backswing (7-8-9) and am consistent at 20-30-40. The 54, for me is 90 to 50 (although a full swing with the 60 is not unreasonable... for me.
@jackkinoff6943
@jackkinoff6943 3 жыл бұрын
This is food for thought I am about to buy new irons and wedges soon I am trying to come up with the make up and cutting back to 58 makes more sense than a 60 for me
@BOWENSblog
@BOWENSblog 3 жыл бұрын
I think overtime I would be more versatile as I age to stay healthy. Takes time to be good at maintaining a certain level of efficiency in this golf season
@shawnmichajluk2044
@shawnmichajluk2044 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a 54 degree wedge for sand shots and 40-80 yard pitch shots. I finished my fourth game of the year using a chipper instead of a 58 or 60 degree wedge. I was knocking it out of the park with the chipper. Chipper stays - 58 and 60 are out for me.
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