Ten HUGE Star Wars Retcons

[@Drowzeeking04]

One retcon I think is cool is that Captain Rex from the Clone Wars series is now in the battle of Endor in Return of the Jedi.

[@benporter6062]

Yeah I love that.

[@Nealrex101]

i really love that one

[@Wednesday131O]

Im pretty sure I heard somewhere that wasn't rex, but it may have been someone who was debating it and chose to say it wasn't and that rex was just doing something else at the battle of endor.

[@indiana157]

Brendon Ghrist he was a different guy in legends but I think Dave filoni said that it was him tho

[@jordanthomas2490]

@@indiana157 If Dave says it, its cannon imo. Dude is basically carrying the franchise on his back rn

[@77163]

I just realised this show is all about presentation, if I read this list of retcons I'd think, who cares? Boring list. But watching this was highly entertaining and tricked me in to thinking these were fascinating bits of trivia. You got me.

[@hellojari07]

yea, I could listen to them talk abt anything

[@jds123187]

"We got a first timer out here"

[@BoyanDimitrov]

Yep it's the power of two possibly drunk Australian guys dicking about.

[@AvatarCritic]

That's basically this whole channel (and that's not a bad thing)

[@danielclyde7777]

Please, Disney, make a “Life of Brian” esk comedy with Owen Lars being confused for Obi Wan by the bad guys!

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

He's not a Jedi! He's a very naughty boy!

[@Madman-ym8dh]

Is his mother a virgin?

[@isleofdead1337]

“I’m not a Jedi!” “He’s a Jedi!”

[@momo1234567solo]

You would love i belive its the second star wars robot chicken special with garry the stormtrooper

[@Bioniking]

Like that will ever happen. We can dream though

[@battleupsaber462]

You were my brother, Owen! I loved you! *Obi-Wan walks away as Owen is burned alive by Stormtroopers*

[@the6ig6adwolf]

Owen wasn't burned alive by stormtroopers, everyone knows that. C'mon

[@red_doggo7219]

Haven't you seen troops? It was a total accident.

[@davids1854]

Gary did it

[@somebuddyX]

Gary accidentally burnt down the Lars homestead when he set the bathroom on fire.

[@louisowen6502]

Harsh 🤣

[@GrandMarshalGarithos]

"Darth" didn't use to be a sith title, just Vader's first name.

[@ReservoirDolphin]

Was that actually a retcon or just an assumption? I know Obi-Wan called him, “Darth,” but I always just assumed that was like calling someone, “Captain,” or something.

[@captainbritain7379]

Matthew Thomason It was definitely intended as a name, because in early drafts a different sort of character had the same name.

[@impulse5674]

Matthew Thomason pretty sure it was considering Vader wasn’t Luke’s father originally

[@AC-gb7do]

He was taken as an apprentice by Palpatine/Sidious, and was given the title "Darth". According to Wookiepedia (not sure how accurate) The character of Darth Vader was not originally planned to be a suited cyborg. In the original scripts for A New Hope, the name "Darth Vader" was given to a normal Imperial general. The concept of a cybernetic Vader was created when the concept artist drew the opening scene where Tantive IV was being boarded. It was initially imagined that Darth Vader would fly through space to enter the ship, necessitating a suit and breathing mask. This suit was later made permanent and incorporated in the story. Vader's usage of an all black uniform, alongside his devotion to Emperor Palpatine, was also intended to be an analogy to the Schutzstaffel (SS) in Nazi Germany. While the commitment to reveal the villainous Darth Vader as Luke's father was officially made in the second draft of The Empire Strikes Back, elements of a Darth-Vader-like character being Luke's father were present in the very first drafts of the first film's screenplay, back when it was going to be called The Star Wars. From the Wookieepedia entry for Kane Starkiller (father of Annikin Starkiller, the character who would later be renamed Luke Skywalker): By the second draft, he becomes known simply as "The Starkiller" and he is the father of Luke Starkiller; he survives to the end of that version and is not a cyborg. In another story synopsis, he is deleted and replaced by a crazy old man encountered on the road. The notion that Luke's father was a cyborg was incorporated into the story of Darth Vader. Coincidentally, Kane's cyborg body had a chest plate on his torso that resembled a similar chest plate on Vader's life-support armor. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kane_Starkiller

[@kibordpengin]

@@jessejive117 oh yeah, lots of dutch names in star wars, you totally cracked the code.

[@marivegas313]

At Least They Never Retconned The Greatest Star Wars Line Of All Time: “Maclunkey”

[@PittsburghSonido]

Machunky

[@kankouya]

Tony H Maclunkey

[@SchulzEricT]

They retconned "not Maclunkey"

[@MojoChino]

Maclunkey for life muthah f-¤θ¡¿μ`θ

[@lucascampelo1973]

@@MojoChino mœþhəřfųčķəř

[@morkofork]

Chewie: "We know each other, he's a friend from work!"

[@christophercrawford2736]

Mork_of_Ork2001 took me a few seconds to remember this reference

[@finnpaisal9812]

66 likes

[@anthonyh.2957]

Oh man, Strong Guys & Green Guys just get along really well it seems

[@r7diego]

I understand that reference !!

[@Brione30]

Mork_of_Ork2001 Good boy! Here’s a treat!

[@kevthepoet]

Rogue One is also a retcon from the Death Star having an inexplicable weakness to a deliberate weakness created by its designer.

[@harrambou9468]

KP Kev the Poet I actually think that’s better...plus let’s be honest Rogue One was some of the best they had, give credit where it’s due

[@kevthepoet]

@@harrambou9468 Rogue One is my favourite post originally original trilogy Star Wars movie. I wasn't criticising it, just stating a fact.

[@harrambou9468]

KP Kev the Poet if “post original” includes Revenge of the Sith how was Rogue One better

[@kevthepoet]

@@harrambou9468 I should have said Sequels. Revenge of the Sith is on par. Not sure which is better. Rogue One felt realer and had much better dialogue, the individual story was better BUT no lightsaber duel and didn't have the weight of the drama that Obi Wan Vs Anakin had so they're about even to me.

[@kevthepoet]

@@harrambou9468 or you could look at this GQ article that put Rogue 1 at 3rd best and ROTS at 5th... www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/star-wars-movies-ranked-disney-plus "3. Rogue One (2016) Everyone dies, which is much more in the spirit of “Empire” than “Jedi”. It has great casting, especially Felicity Jones, Diego Luna and Forest Whitaker. The reprogrammed Imperial droid K-2SO is a neat idea and the kind of deftness lacking in both the prequels and the newer films, while the simple and pacy plot provides a really smart link to A New Hope. The sense of inevitable doom gives the audience a serious dosage of angst, which is obviously a good thing. Because it’s so well balanced between the Skywalker films and can live as a standalone story and it feels like proper Star Wars, that makes it pretty much a total success.

[@terryprentice9657]

The Jedi "uniform" is a retcon, which kinda mentioned in the video. Not only does Uncle Owen wear "Jedi" robes, several people in Mos Eisley are dressed like this. It was just supposed to desert garb until TPM came out, when all of a sudden it's now the standard garb of Jedis. Back in the day, it was kinda assumed that Luke's outfit when he enters Jabba's palace was what a Jedi "uniform" looked like.

[@justintrujillo8483]

i’m the rotj the force ghosts are all seen wearing this same outfit, even anikan so why would you assume that this is just a desert outfit when every jedi shown is wearing this sort of thing

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@justintrujillo8483 Because in the original Star Wars, that's what it was. ROTJ is where the retcon starts. Rogue One fixes it though, by introducing Jedha, another desert planet as the origin point for the Jedi.

[@TheMostUninterestingMan]

Just wait until they retcon Luke's death when it's revealed The Sequel Trilogy Luke is actually a clone of Bigger Luke.

[@Quirderph]

Wait, not even proper Bigger Luke?

[@rampantrambling]

The luke in the sequel trilogy is the bigger Luke, the real Luke is only 3 feet tall

[@Ryu1ify]

@@rampantrambling Hierarchy of Lukes Biggest Luke Big Boss Luke Bigger Luke Clone Luke Luke Me

[@rampantrambling]

@@Ryu1ify I'm at the top

[@Ryu1ify]

@@rampantrambling Ok Bruce Wayne Biggest Luke Big Boss Luke Bigger Luke Clone Luke Me

[@MitchCyan]

The Han that Ben talks to was a clone.

[@EZ-IZZY1995]

The Clone that the Clone talks to in Clone Wars: The Cloniest Wars is also a Clone.

[@dheneb587]

what?

[@Haiganon]

JJ Abrams is a failed clone of George Lucas.

[@TranscendentLion]

Ben was also a clone, but not just any clone - he was a clone of the clone of the original Ben, who might also have been a clone.

[@arc4859]

How did y’all not talk about Ahsoka? Anakin having a padawan is probably one of the biggest retcons there is.

[@Evan15]

Arc 48 good thing it worked

[@benjaminklein8379]

They never said he didn’t so it is not a retcon

[@arc4859]

Benjamin Klein It was always implied from everything that was shown that he never had one

[@amazingtaco9797]

Ahsoka also met chewbacca.

[@Hot18Shot]

@@arc4859 Which implications though? Anikan was only mentioned in passing like three times throughout the original trilogy, then we see him between Episode 2 (the very start of the Clone Wars) and Episode 3 (the very end of the Clone Wars), not much mentioned in between. So while of course they did give Anakin a Padawan after the fact, I wouldn't say it was a retcon because it was never established the Anakin never had a Padawan, he was just never implied to have one outright in the movies.

[@myohmyDesign]

Weekly Planet retcon: James is a clone… of a BUTT! HA! Got him!

[@oaf-77]

Boom. roasted.

[@da_pikmin_coder8367]

Good God you destroyed him, there's nothing left but a pile of ash.

[@ziggy7676]

h8 mail but the h has an 8 at the end

[@myohmyDesign]

Da_Pikmin_Coder a pile of ash... in the shape of a BUTT! 🤣 Ha! Got him again!

[@myohmyDesign]

Zachary Wilcox my comment can't compete with the most recent H8 Mail feature. That stuff was pretty crazy.

[@Grnvolpe]

Yoda to Chewbacca: We know each other. He's a friend from work

[@dustinakadustin]

@Darth Wheezius no, that's not it at all. Yodas speech pattern is legible and not nonsense.

[@yoyo5441]

James, pls tell us how to make mcflurrys at home , this is urgent

[@kruemelmuenster]

"It´s a guy named Jaster Mereel." "That´s a bad name... It´s very close to Jasper." ... I beg your f*cking pardon?

[@anthonytrashboat]

AHAHAHA

[@TechnicolorGhosts]

The best Star Wars retcon is the inclusion of Maclunkey in A New Hope.

[@zprine]

Chewie a la Elf: “Yoddddddddaaaaaa! I know him! I know him!”

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

I couldn't stop laughing at the part about nobody understanding Chewie and Luke petting him. These kinds of stupid little off-the-cuff interactions between you two is what keeps me coming back again and again for more. (So far my personal favorite is still the one about Bruce Wayne hanging out with mobsters and encouraging them to tell him all about their crimes).

[@loopdog8710]

Which video was that from?

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

Jake Hewig This classic right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3zMcqifed6NitU

[@loopdog8710]

@@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D ah awesome I remember when that video came out

[@marvelsomething1952]

@@loopdog8710 batman vs Predator comic

[@kevinangelsofjustice]

Actually three kisses. Leia kisses Luke for luck in the first death Star in a New Hope

[@simonegreco1958]

That was on the cheek

[@kevinangelsofjustice]

@@simonegreco1958 It still counts

[@simonegreco1958]

@@kevinangelsofjustice true

[@jerryknuckles736]

It. Still. Counts.

[@damianpimpinella977]

There’s also a deleted scene in empire where Luke and Leia kiss in the infirmary before everyone arrives. There are screen caps of it

[@eman2863]

Retcon : James was a goat man but now he’s just a man man

[@spaceslav8954]

James isn't a goat man?! Why?

[@munohlow]

With a family too! Such bullshit

[@gm2407]

Manman sounds like a star wars name.

[@davidf8365]

I love to imagine that when Boba Fett goes back to torch the Sarlacc, he slips over and falls back in again...

[@terryprentice9657]

The Kessel Run was totally retconned. It used to be a cluster of black holes called The Maw. The less parsecs you took to cross it, the likelier you would sucked into a black hole.

[@etonTEC]

That maso’s top 5 rebel ships but really encompasses why mr. Sunday movies is my top 1 spot for all comic book and movie news (and trivia).

[@morkofork]

The real retcon: James & Maso are actually just Greg performing various characters.

[@thisisfyne]

Impossible! I've never heard either of them slam a single door!

[@Jerome616]

fun fact:My dad once did a short stint as a radio host back in the 80's and had a bit where their were multiple people in the booth with him (think Howard stern) but all of them were actually just him.

[@morkofork]

@@Jerome616 That is fun

[@expendableindigo9639]

Greg? You mean Ben?

[@morkofork]

@@expendableindigo9639 No, James' wife. Her name is Greg.

[@Mic1904]

10/10 for the X-Wing Alliance shot of the 'bacta delivery truck'. What a game.

[@kossend1]

Surely the biggest cop out retcon was Rey's parents not being nobody, but her father being the Emperor's son.

[@Jwlar]

Emperors clone*

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

My favourite retcom is in the book From A Certain Point Of View, they "reveal" that Greedo was drunk when he confronted Han Solo on the cantina and that's how he could miss a shot at such a short distance

[@zcmini000]

Initially... it was believed that "Han Solo" was called that because his first name was "Han" and his last name was "Solo". But in the movie "Solo" it was revealed that indeed, his first name was "Han" but some random Imperial Officer gave his the last name "Solo". Powerful stuff. Really adds a lot to the character and the lore.........

[@armanddehorta]

3:55 Glad to hear Mason's joke made it to the Kenobi show.

[@themythicalguy8975]

Can we talk about Palpatines first name it's sheeve that's ridiculous

[@kevinm5940]

I always presumed 'Palpatine' was his full name. What kind of name is Sheev? That sounds like a bad rapper.

[@swedsteve93]

Also known as "Creamy" Sheeve

[@emilyiscool891]

Kevin M he’s from an alien planet hundreds of galaxies away no one has a normal name in Star Wars you fuck

[@kevinm5940]

@@emilyiscool891 the main character is literally called Luke

[@emilyiscool891]

Kevin M yeah and theres also a character called obi wan Kenobi and an other called jabba the hut

[@bane2988]

Jaster was retconned to be the mentor of Jango Fett, and both Jango and Boba were confirmed to have used Jaster's name as an alias, to save those stories.

[@darthraver]

Anakin's name was in Empire Strikes Back, even before the Special Edition. The Emperor says "the offspring of Anakin Skywalker."

[@mrsundaymovies]

I think in the original original he says "son of Skywalker" like in this clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHzXlJyIeLujfKc. Appreciate he comment though!

[@johnd1466]

Anaakin in the first Star Wars Paperback

[@GuiOmania]

But even Kenner release a Anakin action figure in 1985 and its written Anakin Skywalker on the package lol !!!

[@videodrome4331]

Obi-Wan speaks Anakin's name in 1983's ROTJ.

[@errantvice7335]

Well the first Death Star plans originally were several pieces of the combined plan assembled to find the weak point of the Death Star. Kyle Katarn only stole part of the plans, another set of the plans were taken from the Death Star itself, by a group of prisoners escaping the cell block, this is a campaign mission in Battlefront 2 (2005).

[@SlashManEXE]

George Lucas had the general idea for Boba Fett being the sole survivor of a group of “Mandalorians” that were wiped out by the Jedi in the late 70s. It’s the expanded universe that tried to make him an anti hero, which lead to the double-retcon later

[@xprophecy1]

Also, in a concept for Star Wars - the original protagonist, Deak Skywalker, had a brother called Annikin, which obviously was then scrapped, and the name was reappropriated for his father later in the franchise development.

[@ryanspengler4877]

The Star Wars collectible card game also mentioned that Owen Lars was Obi-Wan's brother. That shit was weird when I was a kid...

[@asdgty100]

Not sure if it's because I understand all the Aussie references but you guys always leave me in stitches. Quality content always

[@nerdlevelmidnight]

Another retcon: Originally, nobody could understand R2 units. That's why C-3PO exists. Also, the X-wings would translate the R2 and display text to the pilot. Then in Episode 7, just about everybody understands BB-8.

[@rYaNwInS27]

Editor Matt's montage after the list finished (when James and Maso were going back and forth) was a masterpiece.

[@paolodebonis781]

For the Legends retcon you mentioned earlier, they were actually "S-Canon" which meant that they could be ignored and for the most part they were ignored. For the A-Wing, it was a Double Retcon! where instead they confirmed it to be an R22 Spearhead instead of the typical A-Wing. Jabba was also an Alien Yak thing in the original comic

[@bangobuck8722]

The weirdest Star Wars retcon is “Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker”

[@orbaitv5991]

Not seeing much of it as retcon

[@spaceslav8954]

9 completely retconned 8. The sequels are a mess.

[@deadshot5007]

@@spaceslav8954 meh at least they are fun to watch

[@spaceslav8954]

@@deadshot5007 Not really mate :/

[@blyzer7373]

@@spaceslav8954 I think they are. I love and like episode 7 and 8 and episode 9 kinda fucked it all up by trying to backpadel instead of finishing the story that Episode 8 started. Definitely more enjoyable than the Prequels.

"They’re there to be enjoyed as unofficial Legends. *But, as Zahn also points out, the Expanded Universe wasn’t really ever official regardless of what the fans thought."* ~ Timothy Zahn, 2017

[@IanDoesMagic]

That anyone cares at all about Legends is a testament to Zahn's books. They launched that continuity and were never bested. Wouldn't have given two shits about watching Phantom Menace had I never read those books.

[@Darchelian]

The Zahn books are the main reason I was never too upset about the Prequel or Sequel trilogies being sub par. The Expanded Universe was hit and miss but there’s just so darn much of it that I was conditioned to take what I like and discard the rest.

[@histguy101]

@Grim 'alkun So Zahn stated "as Zahn points out"? It sound like you have quote from someone else who is paraphrasing what Zahn said. Here's a quote for you: "Canon refers to an *authoritative* list of books that the Lucas Licensing editors consider an *authentic* part of the *official* Star Wars history. Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucas's Star Wars saga of films and screenplays. Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider *official* parts of the continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon." - Sue Rostoni, LucasBooks/LL Managing Editor, October/November 2001 - Star Wars Gamer #6

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

Absolutely _nothing_ in the EU was considered absolute canon or even sacrosanct by George Lucas, even SOTE. Lucas is a filmmaker and filmmakers don't hogtie themselves with what exists offscreen. He was always adamant that 'the other stuff' was fun but none of it is 'real'. George's canon included what he put onscreen (OT, PT, TCW), novelizations of them, and radio dramas*, and that's it. Everything else was a tie-in or marketing, with as much value to him as the lore printed on the packaging of action figures. * Even these contained some minor contradictions, IIRC, and exist a shade below the films. Which is not to say that things weren't lifted from the EU and then put into the movies with his approval. The effort put into the EU's internal continuity by its overseers was great and allowed us to imagine a consistency with the films. But the films were never and would never be constrained by the EU. It was rare to have this distinction directly addressed because having an implied fidelity with the films is a marketing bump. Nonetheless, the EU was never canonical. The movies were TIER A. The EU was TIER B. Everything else was TIER C. ...except the Holiday Special which doesn't exist. :) (Officially, pre-Disney LFL used a more specific canonical system which is detailed in the Wikipedia entry for the Expanded Universe, which is all pretty accurate AFAIC.)

[@histguy101]

@@AngeloBarovierSD There are dozens of more quotes like the one I posted. Star Wars had one official continuity and universe. It included and was based on George's creations, and also other creators, being guided by Lucasfilm and Lucas himself. To say "Lucas didn't consider it canon so it wasn't canon" is to say that nothing in the new canon is either, or rather, no matter how many new films are made, the only official canon is the 6, and every new movie, tv show, book, comic, or game is simply part of "Lucasfilm canon" but Lucas has never said the EU "wasn't canon," or wasn't official. He's just said that it's not his story, but it's not a different history. He has referred to people to the EU when asked questions that aren't covered by the films. He has been directly involved in some EU works, such as the original Clone wars series, for which he served as Executive Producer and supplied the storylines, just like he was and did for TCW.

[@TheRossMadness]

When I was a wee child, the films were first released on VHS and that's how my sister and I saw Star Wars for the first time and fell in love with it. We were gifted "The Official Star Wars Encyclopedia". In it, it said that Boba Fett was one of three brothers. Boba, Jango and a third whose name I've forgotten. I wish I could find more detail about that because clearly that was retconned.

[@moonj101]

Star wars retcon: rules to Sabacc. Original seen in rebels, New version seen in solo star wars story

[@wyatttyson7737]

"Original seen in rebels" Boy the original was from so far before that. I don't even know what the original was, but I know the rules were discussed in Path of Destruction.

[@Quirderph]

Granted, it's not like different games using the same decks of cards don't exist in our universe...

[@williamcuttill7919]

Quirderph true but originally it was a dice game

[@moonj101]

WyattTyson - I was talking about first time (i saw it anyways) in the disney canon

[@histguy101]

Is it anything like Fizbin? Because then I might know the rules.

[@catherinearizmendez1578]

even for having 1 mil subs, this channel is deeply underrated. Its refreshing to see a channel with people who seriously know so much about star wars and films in general, while also being relaxed, funny, off the cuff, and consistent in content.

[@yoyo5441]

Self isolation, a bit of weed and Mr Sunday movies, sorted.

[@RogueBoyScout]

#GrabDatBong :P

[@DoctorBrokenToast]

The editing on this one was a bit more badass and fluent than usual. Good job Matt!

[@Reece_Hart]

Deleted scene from Rebels. Maul shows up on Tatooine - "KENOBIII... wait you're not him. But you are wearing his clothes. Explain" Owen - "He's over there" Maul continues to go and get destroyed in lightsaber fight.

[@Kelis98]

Legends is canon, just in its own separate canon.

[@strife2376]

it's canon. from a certain point of view...

[@Kekkersboy]

What you are talking about is they're both Canon but in different continuities

[@oaf-77]

Everything is canon!

[@spaceslav8954]

Nothing is canon

[@spaceslav8954]

Oh wait. This is canon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oILOk2x6jKiVkJo

[@MINTY_FN]

I mean, isn't "I am your father" the ultimate retcon?

[@echothevelociraptor9694]

I love how there is so much personality and are so obviously not scripted

[@HoracioAmiritoDiaz]

The person who was hinted at in ESB was originally a new character, Luke's twin sister named Nellith Skywalker. She was going to apparently be a Jedi trained from birth by a bunch of hiding Jedi somehow on the other side of the galaxy.

[@wilberforce95]

fantastic editing and pulling of clips in this one, chaps.

[@ReservoirDolphin]

Thanks very much!

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Grievous used to be a badass competent Jedi-killer. Now he's a moustache-twirling saturday morning cartoon villain.

[@laundrybasketgamers]

But he said general kenobi so ITS OK

[@ItsTheGuy77]

Mr Sunday Movies used to be a Goat man with a Han Solo outfit but now they've retconed him and he's just some random Australian bloke who likes big sandwiches. It's PC GONE MAAAAD! #HanSoloGoatManLivesMatter

[@steve_en5903]

The whole Obi Wan and Owen being brothers gets a lot of attention too as The actor who plays Owens real life brother was the stunt double for Obi Wan in attack of the clones

[@hueowen2786]

As I was around back in 1983, I can tell you what actually happened with Owen and Obi-Wan being brothers. The novel was written by James Kahn based upon an early draft of the screenplay. There was an article in Starlog where Lucas was asked about the discrepancy. He explained that he told Kahn to not write the novel yet because the shooting script not been finalized and might have changes. Kahn wrote it anyway and somehow the final script never got to Kahn, so he turned in his original draft to the publisher and that included a scene of Obi-Wan's force ghost telling Luke that he and Owen were brothers. Years later, another story surfaced claiming that this was all intentional as back then, novels often came out before the movies they were based upon and this was intended as a misdirection so that fans who read the novel before seeing the film would not be in the know on everything. I tend to believe the original Starlog story, but who knows.

"Q: Do you supervise the development of all the off-movie stories? After all, Star Wars exists in books, comics. A: *"You know, I try not to think about that. I have my own world in movies and I follow it."* ~ George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2002 - From a TheForce.Net

[@rook1513]

Well done, gentlemen. This just might be my favorite channel, now. Sit semper vis vobiscum.

[@JCResDoc94]

*☼ **2:30** that was called "The Lies Jedi Tell Themselves" in my region.*

[@nickfromohio6032]

Idk how I missed a bunch of Star Wars stiff on this channel but here I am.

[@Goo.Bitty.73]

There definitely needs to be a video based on the illiteracy theory on the starwars universe

[@johnnycalrissian929]

The "shhh" bit got me lol good edit Ben (:

[@ReservoirDolphin]

It was me, Matt but that’s okay and thanks!

[@samuelcooper5169]

They called the boba reveal

[@MCLegoboy]

So get this, turns out Anakin had a Padawan, a togrutan named Ahsoka Tano, who after two years of fighting in the Clone Wars decided to leave the Jedi Order, survived up until just before the events of the Original Trilogy, ran into him as Darth Vader, went missing, after the Galactic Civil War is over, she pops back up again, and then some time later after possibly dying of old's disease, she appears to Rey along with a bunch of other Jedi in the final fight against Palpatine despite the fact that she herself says that she is not a Jedi. She's a retcon machine!

[@krusnik94]

I imagine when James and Mason kiss, it is a kiss of gratitude and acknowledgement of their connection

[@davindeptuck7905]

5:48 This was re-retconned, the Clone Masters were written in to be obscure allies of the Separatists to maintain continuity over the whole EU

[@peytone5387]

Retcon: Bob Iger is not Mason’s dad

[@blyzer7373]

Retcon: Bob Iger was made by Mephisto to pretend to be Mason's dad and once it's revealed, Mason has a mental breakdown while uttering the words "No more grabbing that gem".

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Mason is a clone of Bob Iger

[@morkofork]

No, that's not true! That's impossible!

[@davindeptuck7905]

1:32 The Marvel comics have always been canon to the EU, they are heavily referenced in later works. However, they were on the lowest tier of canonicity still to be considered canon. That actually goes for every example on the screen there: all canon to the EU in some form.

[@burnsfamily8864]

How could you not mention how Rogue One retconned Phineas and Ferb Star Wars?

[@iamsorenl]

Actually Palpatine drops the name Anakin Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back (1980). When Vader speaks to the hologram of Palpatine Palp says, “I have no doubt that he is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker”

[@des0163]

The McFlurry God has been angered. Your dreams will now be haunted by the COVID-19 flavoured McFlurry

[@aworldreborn881]

Oreo mcflu-rry of course

[@macmuggo5459]

Never mind the Covid McFlurry machine broke so we’ll just have to use a regular McFlurry

[@axel132]

I think you are right about boba fett for some reason

[@slantedframes2334]

I have an interesting retcon. In the special editions, more rocks were retconned in front of R2-D2 when he's trying to find Obi-Wan

[@joshgrossnickle3631]

Mandalorian armor being blaster and lightsaber proof

[@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13]

I have nothing interesting to say or to add to the conversation, just wanting to make it rain "engagement" for your channel. Cheers!

[@althaz]

I think you just accidentally made the word "engagement" a euphemism. I don't know what for, but also, I don't *want* to know.

[@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13]

@@althaz 🤣🤣🤣

[@jay-ks1ex]

Bro wtf this channel has literally never come out with a bad video

[@martinprehn9353]

the Sith were never meant to use lightsabers originally. That's why the emperor says "ahh... A JEDI's weapon - much like your father's" when he first meets Luke in the orig trig (even though Luke's lightsaber really looks nothing like Anakin's). The only reason Vader has one is because he used to be a Jedi, and it amuses Palpatine to twist their image to his own design, mocking them. A true Sith was always meant to use mind manipulation (and the occasional lightning).

[@Logos_Ghost]

another thing that was kind of retconned is with IG-88. in the novels, they had created 5 IG units in a special lab on Mechinus III(misspelled probably). The IG brothers killed their makers and went out to destroy all humanoids but decided to do bounty hunting to pay the bills or get into places, till Boba Fett wrecked like half of them and one of them died in the Death Star II. The retcon happens with all of the prequels and the Mandalorian showing that there are several IG models made before and after.

[@danielbarry4013]

My favorite retcon is when the Knights of Ren were supposed to be good, then they changed that in The Rise of Skywalker.

[@captainbritain7379]

Loved the editing at the end!

[@CWargh63]

I just had a thought - WHY does anybody have a jetpack that can be activated by a button that the being wearing said jetpack cannot reach? How many times was Boba, and before him, Jango ricocheting around the interior of Slave One after backing into an unfortunately placed control panel corner?

[@Mitsuraga]

Ah, so Maso loves the A-Wing. I, too, am a man of taste and class.

[@TrevortheBatman]

“Obi Wan and Owen are brothers because Anakin’s mom married Owen’s Dad...”

[@Gino_andTonic]

Everyone knows that Perry the platypus stole the Death Star plans

[@bamleith3095]

Obviously the most important retcon is maclunky! Also: Dexter Jettster being Rey's dad

[@Syrinx-Priest]

So glad to know I’m not the only one who remembers reading the tale of Jaster Mereel. Love that name, by the way.

[@p_nny3416]

Now let’s just hope the next Star Wars retcon is that the new trilogy was just a nightmare Luke had after passing out from drinking too much green juice.

[@woozleproductions9760]

Your channel is my guilty pleasure channel(along with What Culture). I hate channels that swear and never watch them but I enjoy your channel so much that I watch it anyway.

[@oscarmccormack1611]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the novelization's of the Star Wars movie's are non-canon, because they're based on a pre-production script?

[@orbaitv5991]

The new novelizations aren't based on the pre-production script and are kinda canon but I don't know about the prequel or ot novels much

[@Quirderph]

Some of them (most notably the one for Revenge of the Sith) made deliberate changes to the dialogue and such. I think we'll have to consider them *adaptations* and not strictly canon compliant.

[@adettewachet2512]

The trilogie's novelizations was weird, but the prelogie's one was full canon (well legend) and fit perfectly in the EU. Same for the postlogie, but with less EU relation

[@Unknown-hb3id]

I always thought movies took priority over books in terms of contradicting canon.

[@adettewachet2512]

for the original trilogie, off course for the prelogie (in legend), this is not clear, but the book fit so well for the postlogie, who care, but the book are more coherent.

[@Boringguy55]

After all my time watching these videos and listening to the podcast, I am happy I can pull out these fun facts randomly and half remembered. Makes for great conversation based off of half truths.

[@oaf-77]

Obi wans robes were never supposed to be a ‘Jedi Uniform’ they were just what people wore in the desert.

[@Quirderph]

I think they had become jedi robes by the time they shot that ghost scene.

[@blyzer7373]

Exactly. Then George fucked it all up by making them "jedi robes"

[@WaltOGrams]

Unfortunate side effect of making Obi-Wan look like an absolute moron. Obi-Wan: I'm gonna hide on this sand planet, where no one will know I'm a Jedi. I WILL NOT buy new clothes.

[@histguy101]

@@blyzer7373 Actually, thats not true. Obi Wan is dressed like a Samurai with a wizard robe and riding boots. He's wearing an elaborate layered tunic with double tabards, he has an "Obi"(sash) around his waste with a belt over it. He wears a hooded cloak over that. Owen is wearing simple peasant garb with a bathrobe over it. They're only similar colors. When we see Luke in Return of the Jedi, he's dressed just like Obi Wan was, or like Obi Wan in the Prequels, but in all black and brown. Then there's Yoda...

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@Quirderph I always say that as just giving Anakin Obi-Wan's outfit so they didn't have to design a new outfit for a five second scene and so him and Obi-Wan would stand together as brothers.

[@mazzucac]

There is a deleted scene from Star Wars - Episode IV A New Hope (1977) where Red Leader says to Luke that he used to fly with Anakin. And mentions Anakin by name. So George has the name in mind before Empire Strikes Back.

[@dj__alien]

Fun fact: Anakin's father is a gonk droid

[@darkmatter1721]

Imagine in shimi's room, 9 months before Anakin is born, you hear a loud, low pitched "goooonk"

[@apsychopuppet7923]

Really enjoy your star wars ones. I always learn something new

[@hunterkiller1440]

I want to hear people complaining about these canon being wiped as behemoth as the current legends.

[@RedStarRogue]

I still remember reading Tales from the Bounty Hunters and wondering why they introduced Fett as Jaster Mereel when the Prequels said differently.

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

Could the fact that Korkie looks like the child of Satine and Obi Wan and is allegedly Satine's nephew be considered a retcon

[@histguy101]

Luke kinda looks like Obi-Wan too.ehh?

[@SolarE845]

I think my favourite is that the old guy rebel from ROTJ has been retconned in the new canon to be Captain Rex.