Election Results Memes! | History Teacher Reacts | Drew Durnil

[@MrTerry]

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[@LinardsZ]

Everyone agrees that California is menatal illness state.

[@TheRezro]

The funny thing is that all German coast was originally owned by Slavs. lol.

[@johnmillis5159]

Rank choice vote is kinda dumb you can have some one win the popular vote but not break 50% so there a elimination of the lowest vote candidate and then a second round of votes get tallied and if your guy was eliminated in the first round you get to make a second rounds choice or a third or fourth depends on the amount of candidate

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Terry, I guess the Election Map at 13:20 of your Video was of the Commonwealth of the United States from Pre War 2077 of the Fallout Universe. Don't Feed The Yao Gaoi - 3 Dog.

[@thomgizziz]

Yes it is a supervolcano that can't actually blow up the way they thought it could in the past... even if it really really goes most people in the west are fine.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

Better than the electoral college? Just decide the presidency every 4th Wrestlemania. *"AND HERE COMES BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!!!!"*

[@bloodred255]

I felt that the DNC convention should have decided with a Cage match between all the canidates and a random squirrel.

[@RookMeAmadeus]

@@bloodred255 The dark truth they don't want you to know. They DID that, and Peanut won. So....they had to cover it up. He'll be the one to unify America in our hearts, though!

[@RookMeAmadeus]

@@bloodred255 They went that route. Peanut won. It was...WOW, it was a sight to behold. Flying Squirrel Drop™ from the top of the cage.

[@migga86]

If your choice is an old "elevator boy" and "the other one running for office", the guy on a steel chair is definitely the best option.

[@bobnolen568]

trump has an unfair advantage he's been on WWE

[@antaine1916]

I like how the "crazy map" where "Trump could lose TX and still win" is literally exactly what the results were, plus TX.

[@Monkeyman-pt6gs]

i dont like :(

[@corinthiansdaniels3728]

​@@Monkeyman-pt6gs trump Won victory

[@Vanguard_Spartan_00762]

@@Monkeyman-pt6gs 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom mmmmmm yes give me those lefty tears

[@NomadicOrca]

im at 5:46 and came to say this exact thing, but being a good thread poster, i looked for someone else to say it and reply on.... it is exactly what happened and (312-40=272-win)

[@jeffslote9671]

Peanut and Fred died so America could live. Rest in peace our furry friends

[@R3TR0221]

Was 2 months of a unified America worth the lives of two animals ?

[@MattAndPock-uk7tz]

Peanut and Fred should not have died

[@nono-yw3tv]

​@@MattAndPock-uk7tz As a far right conservative I have to agree...

[@wiilov]

@@R3TR0221 Considering people didn't jump to protect their kids from predators? Unfortunately, yes.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

I'll be honest: because of early voting, I don't think Peanut and Fred or any other late October/November surprise has nearly as much affect on the final vote tally as it would have back when voting all took place on one day.

[@MrTerry]

o7's for Peanut the Squirrel

[@viclorenzo5016]

Everyone mentions Peanut the Squirrel but no one mentions Fred the Raccoon (Peanut's friend). Both of them died.

[@RoboVenturer]

o7 for Peanut and Fred

[@DBook_01]

It's so sad that Peanut and Fred died😢😢

[@brendolbreadwar2671]

No one mentions Fred:( he died too

[@willantvan]

o7 Peanut and Fred

[@lan_real]

i like how he said "Trump would have to win every single swing state" which he did casually in 2024

[@JohnBerry-q1h]

The super nightmare would be if Trump and Kamala both got 269, it goes to a vote by Congress, the Congress reaches a tie, and Kamala herself (as VP) casts the single, deciding vote.

[@wuxiagamescentral]

Electoral College... but the way it was supposed to be done by district not state popular vote. California would flip back to red automatically

[@darkbrightnorth]

Most districts in California are blue, and most stayed blue rather than going back to the insanity.

[@R3TR0221]

Don't worry. You won't have to worry about an election system anymore. If you want an example of what I mean by that look at the history of 1933-1945 Germany

[@SuleimanTheIndifferent]

@@R3TR0221 We gonna deport all the Democrats :D

[@edgyhegi9547]

@@darkbrightnorth i like how u imply that repuplican control is insanety when there are cities like L.A and San Francisco wich are absoluteh hell holes in many aspect and primarely blue xD

[@riddikk187]

@@darkbrightnorth you may want to check the map again because the majority of the districts are red lmao.

[@a.k.m.3419]

Never forget America. There are no blue states only blue cities.

[@camerapasteurize7215]

The Democratic Party is a masterclass in how to appeal to one very specific group of people (in this case, city dwellers).

[@deaconblooze1]

And if you made an actual 'mental ilness' map it would overlay perfectly with the D/R county map.

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@camerapasteurize7215this is honestly one of the worst comments I have ever seen. Cities are some of the most diverse regions in the entire nation, if this was true it would be more like the republicans can only get rural folk to vote for them.

[@camerapasteurize7215]

@@kylezdancewicz7346 Yes, they are diverse. I didn't say they were all identical. I said they were a group. A specific group united by their environment and living conditions: namely, that of an urban environment. That results in commonalities between them, particularly politically, as progressivism as a movement resonates far more with urbanized city dwellers than it does with rural country dwellers, who resonate more with conservativism. Your response calling my comment the "worst comment" you had ever seen is not only rude, it's based on an incorrect interpretation of my comment.

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@camerapasteurize7215 oh yes a very diverse group of people, but that’s just you moving the goalpost. You specifically said not that democrats appeal to city’s, no, you said they appeal to a very specific, the opposite of diverse, group of people. I’m sorry I read what you actually said instead of completely changing what you said

[@NagaTales]

Honestly, I like the Electoral College system so much, I would love to see the it replicated on the state level, in order to lend some counter-balance to the disproportionate power urban voters have over rural voters. Especially in states like New York, where NYC basically rules the entire state, and anyone in the rest of the state has to deal with whatever NYC wants to do with very little recourse, and has little hope of getting their issues addressed since the city monopolizes all political decision-making.

[@dorkangel1076]

Rural votes are already worth more than urban votes. I prefer the idea of splitting the number of electors for each state based on the voting proportion where currently 51% of the electorate of a state have total say over 49% of the electorate. I think there's at least one state that already does that.

[@dobber43]

​@@dorkangel1076Nebraska and Maine do that that combines with more members of the house of reps would also help with gerrymandering.

[@dorkangel1076]

@@dobber43 Thanks, I thought there was a couple.

[@ryantannar5301]

@@dorkangel1076 rural votes count for more as they should. this prevents them from becoming powerless against the interests of other states. the whole democracy vs republic thing is usually just dumb semantics but the US was very intentionally set up to prevent majority rule from dominating while still decentralizing power. the electoral college is VITAL to this

[@jeffreypiek]

FYI, it would be the new Congress seated in January that votes if the electorial college is tied.

[@tricktoshi]

And the house votes for the president, while senate votes for VP, possibly leading to a Prez And VP of different parties. Cray cray.

[@Rydax]

Makes sense since they would represent the will of the people in that election.

[@dobber43]

​@@tricktoshithat's how it used to be

[@emhoj97]

Damn I wish I hadn't googled Peanut and Fred. Now this 27 y.o. is hugging my cat and crying.

[@Gozokukolat]

If you want to know how I would make the elections 'better'... Required VALID state ID and in person voting unless serving in the armed forces or physical impairment that renders one unable to go to the polls. Also make it a national holiday so everyone gets the day off.

[@michaelelmore1678]

Or all mail in ballots are serialized

[@Chrattac]

This is how we do it in Finland. All voters require Id, id is checked. Early voting is in person on certain places (usually supermarkets, malls etc... so it isn't hard to get in, only thing you need to take with you is some form of Id to prove who you are and so that you can be marked as having voted) and requires id. Voting days are always on Sundays. No mail votes. Votes are paper ballots and counted by delegation sitting at the election place consisting of members from all political parties and then announced and sent to central electoral office. I don't know how military deployments do, but I believe they will be gathered by some officials over there. In case person is unable to vote (ie can't move out from wherever he/she is) there are groups of officials (again consisting of members appointed by all parties) that are the gathering those votes from hospitals, elderly houses, jails etc... During covid they were also collecting the votes from houses.It's not that hard, I wonder how America still hasn't figured this out. Oh abroad voting is done in embassies or consulates, but I believe that's also how America does it and not so that someone can just use say Nicaraguan post office to send their ballot...

[@stephenschneekloth1535]

​@Chrattac its not that they haven't figured that out, it's that they want to abuse the system as much as possible if not outright cheat.

[@MuljoStpho]

I would be curious to see how things would play out if there was some sort of proportional or county/district based spread of electoral college votes instead of the state by state "winner takes all". But yeah... Try to get it back down to election DAY, no election week or election month or whatever. I'd say at most maybe make it election weekend, although they'd better be damn certain that security is beyond top notch at and inside every facility during and surrounding that weekend. Make it a holiday and say that employers must make sure that all employees can get adequate time off. (If it's a whole weekend you could say that each employee must be guaranteed at least one of the two days off.) No shortcuts on the ID issue. (Like in my state I get the early ballot mailed to me and I take my time to fill it out and make sure I know something more than just what's on the ballot itself about what I'm voting for as I fill it out, and instead of mailing it back I drop it off in person on election day or the day before election day. I like being able to do that. But it always feels super sketchy that I can just walk up and put the envelope in and that's enough for them. There's my signature on the envelope that they're (supposedly) going to verify before opening it, but no ID check.) Try to get as many smaller locations as possible spread out for everyone to be able to go somewhere local instead of having just a few larger locations where people get stuck in line for hours. Have the ballots counted by workers on site that same night instead of shipping them off to some other location for mass processing by a machine.

[@Bob-cx4ze]

Funny how it was so critical to roll our "Real ID", but not to use for elections. I guess those cigarettes and spray paint cans are more important.

[@michaelelmore1678]

So one thing as an NC notice is Asheville, a typical Blue city voted red this year. My leading theory is the lack of government support after helene.

[@MidwestArtMan]

I only ever see people complain about the Electoral College, but I like it. It's from a time when states were more important than the federal government, which I prefer. You're essentially voting for who your state will vote for, and then, they weigh the states' votes based on population so the big ones don't get as mad. Plus, I'd like the 17th Amendment to be repealed because I think you get a better balance and checks on power when the different parts of the government are elected through different democratic means. Instead of popular vote for everything, you'd have everyone voting for the House, state legislators voting for senators, and states themselves voting for president.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

The point of the Electoral College is to make sure that high population States can't bully and run roughshod over low population States, and that the President needs to appear to a broad and GEOGRAPHICALLY diverse electorate instead of the population of a few cities. Look at the current electoral map of the USA. It's mostly red dotted with blue where all the major urban areas are. In pure popular vote system, those tiny blue areas can dictate whatever they want to the low population red areas. Does that make sense? Why should city people who know NOTHING about farming or rural living dictate how farmers and rural people live? Get rid of the electoral college and go straight to popular vote and you'd basically have an instant civil war. After all, why should the federal government listen to low population areas and minority populations when they're always outvoted by the high pop majority? Heck, you're actually seeing this play out in Washington State where the eastern areas are trying to secede from the high population western Washington where all the cities are because the rural easterners are feeling ignored and exploited by the high population west.

[@Silvercrypto-xk4zy]

Bush jr won both his reelection and the popular vote in 2004, he was the last republican to do it before trump on Tuesday

[@ryanhamstra49]

He’s also the last republican president to win…. Trump 2016 is the only other republican win since 2004

[@PolitikPolitik-fh2qc]

Idk why people focus on them there's only been 2 Republicans who won since 2004. Lol. Its not like it's actually that amazing. Republicans also won 3 times in a row with Reagan Reagan and Bush. Jfk won like 3 times somehow.

[@mikeycarrero6501]

He was the last republican president before Trump so...

[@dean_l33]

@@mikeycarrero6501 Can't believe it been 20 years already

[@docjohnson1]

Well urban areas are usually dem and they don't even know why they vote but feel compelled. That changed alot this election

[@maxstone3779]

Electrical College - Your state and local government have a bigger impact on your life. I like it keeps that focus.

[@hannibal-rb3go]

Texas was +14R lol. I don't think it's changing from a solid red state anytime soon.

[@Marveryn]

every election the left keep tricking themselves that they can flip it. and every election they are proven wrong and it been this way since Reagan.

[@hanshotfirst686]

7:16 I used to run a children's karate class and we used a system I called Sensei Democracy where I let the students vote on what activity they wanted to do then we did what I wanted. I always felt that was a very fair system.

[@R3TR0221]

@@hanshotfirst686 1984 wasn't meant as a guide on how to run a club or a country

[@maxflares8888]

It would be the new Congress that votes on a President rather than the current Congress at the time of the election.

[@hoss3548]

The house votes president and senate votes vp

[@rileythatcher1956]

@@hoss3548woulda been so freakin hilarious for trump to end up with Walz😂🤣🤣🤣 nobody would know what to think

[@hoss3548]

@rileythatcher1956 even better trump with Harris vp

[@benwagner5089]

@@hoss3548 That's how presidents were elected originally, before running mates were a thing. Winner takes the president's office, second one gets the VP office.

[@copocopocopocopo]

​@@hoss3548 Was looking for this! Mr. Terry, this here's the answer!

[@KingofComrades]

I love how MatPat's VP is Markiplier

[@anathardayaldar]

Paving the way for a possible Asian American president

[@twylanaythias]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Electoral College itself - it's arguably the absolute best election system ever conceived (particularly for a nation as unique as the United States). The issue most complain about is how most States disenfranchise their own voters by using a winner-take-all system to award their EVs. Maine and Nebraska expressly award their Electoral Votes properly (as the system was intended), while those with a single House Seat do so inadvertently. Whether a State decides to award EVs strictly by District or simply award two EVs for winning the State overall and divide the rest proportionally to the popular vote within that State - I honestly don't care which - each State has the fundamental obligation to respect and convey how their citizenry voted. I haven't delved as deeply into 2024 as I did into 2016, but a cursory evaluation found pretty much the same conclusion; the elections would have been closer in the Electoral College (more accurately representing the will of the people) though the results would not have changed. I did happen upon a few elections when one or both of the alternative methods would have flipped the outcome, but I won't start a siege by pointing out which ones.

[@pineapplestitch1783]

Another thing about the proportional system for voting that Maine and Nebraska use, if it was applied to all states, we could actually see a handful of independents possibly being elected to Congress (or at the very least, on a state level). That would be certainly an interesting thing to have in a 2-party system

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

Sadly it looks like we’re going backwards a bit in this regard. Alaska has a ballot measure that looks like it’s going to pass that repeals their ranked choice voting system back to a normal first pass the post style vote in general elections.

[@ptorq]

@@pineapplestitch1783 ... how? Representatives are already elected by district so any district that wants to elect a non-2P candidate is free to do so without changing a thing, and (barring some unusual circumstances) in any given election a state only has a single seat in the Senate to vote on, so the only way to award it is the "winner take all" system we're using now.

[@BrokensoulRider]

@@ptorq Because it means points would be taken away from the main two parties, thus shooting the third parties into the overall.

[@zuludude2]

The original electoral college was way better than what we have now. I'm talking about when you vote for an elector, and the candidates names are not even on the ballot nor do they really campaign. You vote for an elector that shares the most of your values, and all the electors meet up to interview the candidates and debate with each other to decide the election.

[@mosheshulman8305]

I think the Electoral College was one of the best ideas of the founders. If not for that who would care about Nevada? or Arizona? Or Maine o Nebraska?

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

Yep. Otherwise it would be only cities and illegals.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

It's worse than that. In a pure democratic system, the high population States can just vote to take wealth and resources away from the low population States - even if those States need those resources to live - and the low population States wouldn't be able to muster enough votes to stop them. That's basically a recipe for secession and civil war.

[@biggerdoofus]

"The proletariat will rise up and take back the means of production, ultimately culminating in a classless, stateless society. ...But that's just a theory! A political theory! Thanks for participating!" -- President Matpat, being about as accurate as usual.

[@russelljames5631]

This is actually sad if you understand the quote in full context. This was in theory Marx having a positive hope for humanity and us proving him wrong by being worse than he could comprehend.

[@R3TR0221]

@@biggerdoofus why did my mind automatically go to the soviet anthem when I read this?

[@gnarfarmer]

Negl, I'm sick and tired of people pretending liking communism is chill, go eat boots and lead

[@travisworts6249]

Sounds like communism

[@ZiWil-i7t]

The saddest thing is all of these Memes could be possible… WHAT HAVE WE DONE!!!!!

[@wadeintonature2975]

Mondale and Harris both missed the Al Smith dinner.

[@TnT_F0X]

Electoral college with split state points is the only improvement. People in blue areas of texas or red areas of new york would have more of a say if it was split

[@luodeligesi7238]

At this point a popular vote system would work better. People are not as state-centric as they were at the founding. Politics is national now. Also, the Electoral College was designed at a time when it was nearly impossible to tally up enough votes to know the results in real time. Having delegates that travel to the capital to report the results from their respective states was the easiest method at the time. And as we saw this time, Republicans CAN still win the popular vote.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

@@luodeligesi7238 no local politics have always mattered more stop treating this as a football match

[@luodeligesi7238]

@@viktorgabriel2554 a conservative in Texas has more in common with a conservative in Maine than with a liberal in Texas. There's a reason we have two parties and not 50 of them.

[@Stramontin1]

​@@luodeligesi7238That's the major problem in the US. Local politics are far more important than any national politics. I believe we should have the electoral college system at all levels.

[@ptorq]

As a (color) voter living in a reliably (other color) state, I've long felt that I might as well vote the Gidney/Cloyd ticket as vote for my actual preference, and assigning electoral college votes proportionally would help the disenfranchisement immensely.

[@blindjustice8718]

Electoral college, but instead of winner take all in 48 states, they all split their electors based on districts like Nebraska and Maine. So the winner of the state gets the two "Senator" electors, and the "Representative" electors get divided based on districts won.

[@ryantannar5301]

The electoral college is important enough that I'd hope its removal would cause a civil war (not that I want a war, I'm saying that it's a vital part of how the US works, and is worth fighting for just as much as the existence of the Senate.). In a nation as diverse as the US, people in lower population states would be trampled politically without it. What's good for the coast is not always good for the interior for example and the coast will ALWAYS win without the electoral college. This is true regardless of political alignment. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing.

[@sushisundae7821]

Your thumbnail made me laugh out loud 😂

[@One_Proud_Papa]

The funniest part of the "Time Zone" map is the misspelling of "Mental." Intelligent, that one. 😂

[@EljayWilcox]

If no one got 270, the house decides the president via state designation, with each state getting 1 vote. The senate then decides the vp

[@withacy]

I came here to say that - giant nerd that I am, that was my take away. If there’s no majority (or disputed results), it goes to the US House, with each state delegation getting one vote. So it doesn’t matter how many reps California has (short cut to looking it up - electoral college minus the two (for the senators)), they only get 1 vote in deciding the president. Hell yeas, I agree with the electoral college! John Stuart Mill’s Tyranny of the Majority. If the massive East & West coast states can decide elections on their own, then the President doesn’t need to pay any attention to the rest of the country; resources, funding, etc. all go to those big states and the bills go to the rest of us. Stupid, ignorant decisions like “all vehicles have to be electric” leave bewildered Iowa farmers standing in their fields, thinking “um, where would I even get an electric tractor - if I could afford it - and where would I plug it in?” The problem with majority ONLY rule is it’s for everything, always - and that would not work for a nation this big.

[@Cyrus_T_Laserpunch]

That map with the Southern half of Canada as part of America is actually really accuate, especially as Quebec is so mad about being in an even bigger country with English speakers that they use the Bloc to threaten to leave if their demands aren't met, this demand would be them angry that neither candidate speaks French and demanding America make speaking French a requirement.

[@harrisonlynch4701]

There was a district in Nevada where no confidence won, so the STFU results were probably what they were hoping for.

[@freakysquirrel7218]

8:44 Ngl, the way Detroit looks in some places it could actually pass as a middle eastern city.

[@vharmi.]

We used to have 350 members of Parliament in Sweden which actually led to a tied election once. After the nightmare of trying to sort that out, we now have 349 members instead.

[@yosutzuhruoj]

Yes, but our system stinks. Majority vote doesn't matter since other parties can just form a coalition. Remove the multi party system, alternatively bring back monarchy.

[@williamjoback1436]

I think the first guest was hinting at what happened with Hurricane Helene. lol

[@Thor-zj9oz]

RIP Peanut o7

[@nickzeiders5952]

If the Electoral College has to stay, then the number of representatives needs to increase after every census like it did up until the 1920s.

[@ManFromThePits]

Shrek wouldn't drain the swamp. He'd chase everyone out of it, and then sit in it himself. Either way, Shrek gets the job done.

[@MegaLokopo]

What happens if no one runs for president?

[@arandomperson920]

I love how no matter what side your on you can enjoy this video :)

[@segagod92]

12:17 no, the president is inaugurated on January 20th or 21st. Not the 6th.

[@Haansthepanda]

The way nebraska and Maine do it

[@R3TR0221]

@@Haansthepanda get diagnosed with DID?

[@cavalieroutdoors6036]

I've never heard the East Coast is the Best Coast, but now that you've given me this gem I am gonna take it and run with it.

[@MidwestArtMan]

In the case of a contingent election (269 tie), the new House of Representatives would vote, but each state only gets one vote that their House members have to agree on. As a result, Trump would almost certainly win because there are more reliably red states than blue ones.

[@David-sl6xf]

Sorry but I never want to hear about Blue Texas again. Been hearing about it since at least 2018 how any cycle now it's going to turn purple or maybe blue.. Not going to happen

[@PolitikPolitik-fh2qc]

I hope not.

[@TheBandit025Nova]

Texas as a Blue state that is funnier with a Red California

[@robertjones1081]

Yes there is a globe Bball but from Urban Outfitters but.......... sold out! Dam I want one too

[@53kenner]

Then there was the BIG story of 1984 .... "The Roar of 84" when the Detroit Tigers curb stomped everyone in sight.

[@awesomesauce980]

Peanut and Fred from above: "Yes, Brother Trump, avenge us!"

[@GM_Neo]

I read this as Phineas and Ferb twice

[@blindjustice8718]

The person who made the Mentall Illness meme, misspelled "Mental." Genius.

[@josiah9008]

We definitely need ranked choices voting. The Winner needs to know that they truly aren't wanted by most people.

[@ScanderiteMagnoliaGalaxyPG3D]

Oh this is a reaction to drew durnil I love watching his videos I like how he noticed the no no number or known as the demonic number

[@RobertBailey-y3h]

Minnesota shows a grim realism. They voted for Mondale and foe Walz for VP, I duspect because they didn't want them back. --Bob Bailey in Maine

[@staceyhamilton3982]

If it went to Congress to decide, the House selects the President and the Senate selects the Vice President

[@tip358]

Love Drew Durnil's channels!!!

[@charlesmaurer6214]

Why do I see Terry at his desk with a Basket ball, a Globe for reference and a full spectrum of flex seal cans trying to paint his own custom B-Ball now while students take their test?

[@ninjagrif98]

I would actually like to hear your thoughts on Veritasiums video discussing different election styles

[@katiconyt]

I actually love the idea of the electoral college as you can have a majority of a state blue and just have a really populated city in the state go red and then Republicans win the state even though most of the counties go blue. It's not perfect but I think it's better than a pure democracy as that's mob rule.

[@demonic7610]

love the sarcastic irony being reverse what you said about democrats and republicans and thats how it actually is in California, Oregon, Washington, and a few other states lol

[@jedimaestergandalf9090]

Land shouldn't vote

[@R3TR0221]

Can I interest you in the best government system ever? 1933-1945 Germany. Where you don't have to do anything and one old bastard runs everything. Tested multiple times. Most recently in russia. 33 years with at least 28 more years if the basically bald man in charge is as long lasting as Jimmy Carter

[@R3TR0221]

@@jedimaestergandalf9090 Let the sea vote then

[@edgyhegi9547]

@@jedimaestergandalf9090 no but if we would make a world allience and every country was in it and voted on the world president, if we would do it without the electoral collage every election would be decided by Asia, but if u look on the impact and power on the world stage USA and Europe are still strong without the popular vote so they would 100% just leave or start civil war. Besides the more ppl you put together at one place the more likely it becomes they think similar or adopt similar ideas to get along, wich would favor cities by concept, but cities should not be the only ones to decide how the whole rural parts live since they have no clue of the rural problems and vice versa, thats why the electoral collage is very important to balance the powers.

[@marcusrusso2988]

I wish you were my history teacher. I learnt more from you in one video then in a whole year of school ❤

[@pineapplestitch1783]

10:56 I did NOT realize just how many people lived in the EST zone. Very interesting! Though, I think back when Indiana didn’t do daylight saving time, they were part of the year EST, and part of the year lined up with Central/Chicago time. So idk where that would be on the map if that were the case, lol

[@timothyarmstrong9351]

Hey Mr Terry how do you think our elections would change if we made Puerto Rico an official state since they're currently a territory controlled by us

[@jholmes3329]

Id like to see a ranked voting system and allow states to split the electoral college votes based on population vote percentage

[@PolitikPolitik-fh2qc]

They are allowed to. But they have to vote too.

[@777idkineedausername]

Some states already do this. Nebraska is one of them.

[@BearRazor2470]

​@@777idkineedausername Maine and Alaska too right?

[@ibtgb2]

Trump won Florida by over a million votes and I remember staying awake to see who would win Florida because it would basically be the swing state to decide the election. That’s crazy to me.

[@nono-yw3tv]

Not only that, But Florida was one of the first states to be called.

[@Realdrlipschitz]

Florida wasn’t a swing state this election though, I’m from Florida and we knew Trump would take it. Pennsylvania was the most important state in this election by far to win

[@ibtgb2]

@@Realdrlipschitz yeah, that’s what I said “I remember staying awake to see who would win Florida” means it’s been awhile since we’ve had to do that. My point was that it hasn’t been that long since it was a near 50-50 state and now Trump won it with one of the craziest blow outs ever. In 2016 he won with just over 100k more, 2020 it was with like 360k and then 2024 with over a million more votes is a wild increase. That’s all I was saying.

[@Realdrlipschitz]

@@ibtgb2 oh gotya, thought you were talking about this one. My bad

[@Hamdalorian]

Imagine if there was a tie vote in the electoral college and the house elected a democrat and the senate elected a republican to split the difference across party lines

[@Oliver-yc5fi]

13:52 😂 Why is Nova Scotia blue? Unfortunately we'd be red in this scenario. The province is mostly rural and conservative.

[@azmendozafamily]

Mr. Terry, do you have a breakdown of the Republic of Texas?

[@isgamer-8732]

Electoral is the best way because cities have way too much power compared to rural areas. If we went exclusively by popular vote Cities would win every single time. Maybe Electoral college with each county having its own say would be better than the state because again, cities just outvote everyone else.

[@kevinfrazier5138]

Making major cities into City-states would work pretty well for balancing out the individual vote power vs the city not being able to bully the rural areas.

[@siliciaveerah9327]

@@kevinfrazier5138 new york city seriously needs to be its own state.... it has almost 50% of NYS population alone.... rural new york gets ignored so much

[@kevinfrazier5138]

@@siliciaveerah9327 Yeah, honestly, any county/city with more population than the entire country had when the US was founded should probably be looked at to become a city state, in my opinion.

[@Crazy_Broke_Asian]

The founding fathers were geniuses. We shouldn’t replace the electoral college with anything

[@Verkinggettorix]

agreed just because you get a lot of people to agree on something doesn't make it right

[@cheapshot2842]

​@@Verkinggettorix What makes something right?

[@thrumwolf9583]

​@@cheapshot2842 one thing that could make something right is if it is factually true, it benefits someone without causing harm to another etc etc

[@Verkinggettorix]

@@cheapshot2842 That’s overly philosophical to get into in a KZbin comment section. I’m just saying that like a lynch mob just because people agree to do something doesn’t make it a moral thing to do

[@PolitikPolitik-fh2qc]

More people need to realize this and put their smooth brains away

[@johnlange4814]

Texas swung more red

[@R3TR0221]

@@johnlange4814 an appendix like that isn't supposed to be red. Get it checked 😆

[@EsaLena1]

I think that "6th of October" is a 1973 war reference.

[@CordovanSplotchVT]

Ah, the Jeb memes making a return from The First Great Meme War.

[@stevenmcginn354]

I think it would be either, like if their six year term isn't up, then the presiding Congress members would vote, but if their six year term is up, then it would be the newly elected members casting the votes

[@Justin_Ebright]

Oh God, that's a horrid thought. If it was 269-269 and got sent to Congress and they did deadlock, Harris would be the tiebreaker. She could have elected herself at that point. Harris could have picked Harris. Umm I have suggestions 😂😂😂

[@jdotoz]

@@Justin_Ebright Harris has no vote in that scenario.

[@szariq7338]

The "mental illness vs real US" and subsequent comment reminds me of a lost media series called Jericho (and I loved it), where terrorists blow up 23 American cities with nuclear IEDs, which sends the States into chaos, from which ultimately emerge 3 statehoods: independent Texas, totalitarian West US and democratic East US, the latter of which are divided by Missisipi river.

[@IlluminatiReign]

Great show

[@Dystopia1111]

A shame we only got 2 seasons, very interesting show.

[@nickvanachthoven7252]

the show ended with Texas gearing up to roll into west US and that would have been dope to watch.

[@samuelterry6354]

"Basically East Brooklyn" 🤣

[@migga86]

At least it's not "Egyptian Bronx" or something equally dangerous.

[@samuelterry6354]

@@migga86 Huh?

[@migga86]

@@samuelterry6354 Wasn't "East Brooklyn" one of the names dropped for a country east of Egypt where some former "forced workers" moved to according to the Bibles early works?

[@sirblank2384]

The electoral college i feel makes it more fair for states choices instead of the largest cities choose the president

[@liarwithagun]

Yes. If we did it by popular vote we'd just end up with permanent Democrats as president, governors, and senators

[@gunzakimbo]

Ya good thing we made it so slave holders in the south got fair representation!

[@PolitikPolitik-fh2qc]

​@@liarwithagunwed also be a democracy and not a republic. Which i don't think people would understand. We are a union of states.

[@scuttlebut]

So a handful of people decide for the majority.. that hardly fits “for the people, of the people, by the people”.

[@scuttlebut]

@@liarwithagunor republicans could actually put up policies that more people agree with.

[@devilinthebelfry7292]

Controlling both Brests was goo much for them.

[@92jwiener]

I chuckled at the idea of Matpat winning the election but then got kind of frightened at the idea that we may one day see Mr. Beast or Logan Paul run for office one day...

[@toad6284]

9:55 "Forget rest of us '3' time zones" ahh yes Alaska and Hawaii in two other time zones and other territories forgotten in this too

[@dannygjk]

I hate when a streamer yells at me so there is no way I would have watched that video directly.

[@Onebie]

Other election systems: England, where you have to be worthy and draw Excalibur from the stone or A battle to the death for every seat in the Senate and House and presidency (if there are more candidates than two, its es battle royal) or A round of Poker or any other game

[@Nonov_Yurbisniss]

Regarding a preferrable system of voting: I may be coming at this as an outsider looking in (hello from Sweden, btw), but from what I gather, the US would benefit greatly from Approval Voting. I heard something about it being used somewhere in the US for some local election or another, and the debate climate, or whatever you call it - the tone of the debate, and the interaction between the candidates - was great, incredibly civil. Now, there could well be a plethora of factors causing that, but the voting system incentivising making yourself look good, and, more importantly, not incentivising making any of your opponents look bad, probably helped a great deal. On a sidenote, whilst I would like to see the debate climate improve here in Sweden as well, we never really vote for candidates in that way, so I'm not sure how an appoval-based system would work here 🤔

[@viktorgabriel2554]

what you are talking about only works when there are more then two teams and sadly due to regulations pushed thru by Democrats in the late 1800s they have made is really hard for other parties to get any form of foundation or reprisentation

[@kevinfrazier5138]

I very much agree. Approval voting doesn't get rid of smear campaigns, but the cost to smear all your opponents gets to be too much so it's more cost effective to just be the better candidate. You also get rid of "spoiler" candidates using Approval. There was a recent election to recall our mayor, the guy was super unpopular and most people voted against him, but there were at least 5 other candidates so the vote was so split he ended up getting re-elected anyway...

[@mikaelacash3791]

I'm Catholic and loved the memes popping up on the Catholic meme pages of Luce just winning every state. Hey, at least we would have a female president if that had actually happened 😂

[@DrunkenSmurf]

Slight correction: Inauguration Day 2025 is on Jan 20, not Jan 6 as you've said. As for the rest, great vid!

[@frankg2790]

We need the Electoral College so that small states have a say in the Election.

[@swirvinbirds1971]

While I understand the argument I also don't agree that a person's vote in one state should be worth far more than a person's vote in another state. We don't do this at the state level. It's by popular vote.

[@johnirby8847]

​@swirvinbirds1971 what are you talking about? It's based on population.

[@Finnishnat-conservativedot7126]

​@@swirvinbirds1971 Meanwhile other countries like mine, Finland, doesn't have a electoral college our smaller state's representative count rate per region still favors the smaller state and no one whines about it, since it adds representation for smaller and rural regions of the country.

[@swirvinbirds1971]

@@johnirby8847 you need to look into that a little more. They get more electoral votes per capita than the large states Based on the 2019 population estimates, Wyoming has three electoral votes representing 578,759 residents-or 5.18 electoral votes per million residents. By contrast, Texas has 1.31 electoral votes per million residents. Each Wyoming voter has roughly four times more influence over its state’s electoral voters than each Texas voter. When looking at how many people in each state are eligible to vote, Wyoming’s voters have 6.59 electoral votes per million eligible voters. That’s also about four times as much influence as voters in Florida, who have 1.86 electoral votes per million eligible voters

[@liarwithagun]

@@swirvinbirds1971 You do realize that if we did things by popular vote the the entire country would be ruled by NY, LA, and about 3 other cities.

[@anangrytexan2244]

5:45 we had this same fear initially when Californians started moving to the state. There was a lot of 3rd party polls and research done on the demographics and ideologies of those moving to the state and it found the vast majority of people not moving to Austin tended to be more conservative or Libertarian in their views. What Texas saw was a bit of Ideological Self-Sorting from people leaving the coasts.

[@alexeytsybyshev9459]

Thanks to 2021, everyone knows the electors are counted on Jan 6 (and can change until then), so a vote can only happen after that, so it's the new congress taking the vote. I wonder if the old VP can still be a tiebreaker in that vote.

[@LiveFreeOrDieDH]

The incoming congress votes (the one that is sitting as of Jan 6). House decides president, Senate decides VP. Each state's delegation gets 1 presidential vote, with the winner of the majority of states declared the President-elect. Senators vote individually for VP.

[@coltonbarnes7861]

Drew is awsome lol

[@AverageArtEnjoyer1941]

There is a thing much better than Electoral College - it's the Imperium of Man. The Emperor protects!

[@greymalkin9228]

My mother actually did buy Apple stock in the mid-'80s. She didn't do so out of any killer investment instinct (at the time IBM was definitely the 800lb gorilla in the personal computer market), she did it simply because she viewed. (correctly, IMNSHO) the Mac as a lot more friendly and nice than the IBM PC and she wanted to encourage that.

[@tobiassalisbury245]

If there is an electoral tie, it is the newly elected House of Representatives that vote, with each state's representatives having one vote. So the president would need a majority of states' delegations, with Alaska's 1 representative having 1 vote for Alaska, and California's 52 representatives having 1 vote for California

[@professorwhat2704]

So here's the timeline and procedure if there was no majority in the electoral college: January 3: The new Congress is sworn in. January 6: The House and Senate sit to certify the electoral college. With no majority, the Senate would then vote for the VP, with each Senator getting a vote. The House would select the President, though it would work differently than in the Senate. Each state's House delegation would get one vote. So, California gets one vote. Wyoming gets one vote. Every state gets one vote. So, it's actually possible for one party to control the House but the other party to have the majority in more states, and thus win the House election. January 20: The President is inaugurated.

[@frederickbeal1174]

Matt Pat isn’t old enough to run for president lol

[@Ctrlr1981]

The newly elected House members would vote on the 269-269 tie.

[@swag31556]

13:00 on that note; what would have happened if the election ended in a tie and the senate tied on their vote? would Kamala be able to cast the deciding vote on whether she should become president?

[@rockstarburne]

from my understanding they vote by state not by individual. And i thought it was only based on the house, not sure about the senate, but Repubs would win regardless

[@AyushSingh-jh4yw]

​@@rockstarburneIn the senate, it is one person, one vote. This scenario was famously covered in The House of cards season 5 (It's from there that I learnt the answer to this.)

[@lethalweaboo8662]

If Matt loses there's gonna be a theory... a conspiracy theory.

[@williamiwells]

Three Solutions: 1. Make each worth ONE. 26 to win. 2. Make every state like NE & ME. Go by congressional district. 3. Proportional distribution.

[@DrewDragoon]

The first option has the same problem as the popular vote. Some states would be screwed over and they would want to leave the union. As we've learned in history it would result in civil war and civil war is very bad

[@trenth7749]

Something I find interesting about where I live, NC, is that we have voted red for national but blue for local elections the past 3 cycles. It isn't just less people voting for the local elections. The democrat candidate for governor has more votes than the republican presidential candidate each of these times