Which Version of Outrun 2 is the Best? Let's discuss! (upscaled 4K)

There have been several new things happening in the world of Outrun 2 since I made this, so many in fact I decided to make a 'Part 2' video to cover them all - watch it here afterwards for the FULL Outrun 2 story: • Which Version of Outru...
Updated 1 - March 2019: The Lindbergh version of Outrun 2 SPDX now works on Windows 7: • Outrun 2 SPDX (Teknopa...
Update 2 - June 2019: Howard Casto's been busy making further improvements to the PC version of Coast 2 Coast. He's created a course editor, allowing you to make either branched or continuous courses made up of any combination of the original 15 Outrun 2 or SP stages in either their normal or reversed mode. This also includes the the dusk and sunset Palm Beach and Sunny Beach stages that are normally only available in the game's time attack mode. See it in action here: • Outrun 2 FXT - Course...
Update 3 - June 2020: KZbinr and fellow Outrun 2 super-fan Noobsaibot21 pointed out a little Outrun 2 factoid to me tonight that I was previously unaware of; the Ferrari Testarossa (the original 1986 Outrun car) had a very different look in the original arcade Chihiro version of Outrun 2. From Outrun 2 on Xbox and beyond, we've had a different looking car which is the one we're now all familiar with. Noob' also pointed out that this Testrossa was also in the Xbox demo of Outrun 2, but only as a rival car. You can see the original Testarossa design here running in the Beta Chihiro version of Outrun 2: • Outrun 2 (Beta Chihiro...
Which version of Outrun 2 is the best is a question that recently I seem to be getting asked quite a bit in the comment section of some of my Outrun split-screen videos. So, I thought I'd discuss the pros and cons of the different versions of the Outrun 2 games (and in some instances the regional changes too), and the systems they're playable on, to try and come up with a definitive answer.
I did talk a little about the different versions of the modern Outrun games in the 30th anniversary tribute video I made back in 2016, so there is a bit of repetition about certain Outrun 2 factoids here. Having said that though, I do go into quite a bit more detail in this video, specifically comparing the different games to each other and discussing their individual strengths and weaknesses in that respect (plus, the Outrun tribute video was something like the 2nd ever video I'd ever made in a voice over documentary stylee, and I think I'm a bit slicker at it now, so if you enjoyed that video hopefully you'll find this one complements it rather than simply rehashes old ground). Also, there have been a couple of new things happening in the world of Outrun since 2016...
A couple of things just to add: the PC gameplay that starts at 14:08 HAS got the bloom effects in. Also, when I do the 4 way split-screen look at Outrun Online arcade, Xbox Coast 2 Coast and the PC with and without bloom, around the 15:48 mark, the PC footage is looking a tad low res compared to the others. This is because I didn't have the original footage I'd originally recorded on my hard drive anymore and I had to re-record it off KZbin using screen recording software....
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Unfortunately, KZbin's processing totally bollocks'd up my first upload of this and wouldn't allow it to be viewed in anything other than 360p, despite the fact it was a 4K upload. I was initially hopeful that the KZbin team would be able to fix it, but over 20 emails later and much reassurance that the KZbin technical team are 'looking into it', I've realised that nothing's ever going to change, so I've made the rather heart breaking (in view of all the positive comments and interaction it'd received) decision to de-list that video and start again... This is the EXACT same video file, the only difference here is that I uploaded this to my Google Drive first (for the KZbin technical team to so-say download and look at) before I decided to try exporting it into KZbin. Initially it looked like the same thing had happened - stuck at 360p - but after 24hrs, all the HD resolutions finally appeared. I'm going to add a link to the original video here just in case any original comment-ors want to go back and check their comments: • Which Version of Outru...
#OutRun2 #OutRun2SP #OutRun2SPDX

[@MrThunderwing]

*PART 2 OF THIS VIDEO HERE:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3u3gZhtlqersJY I made a follow-on to this video, as several fairly big things happened in the world of Outrun 2 in the 8 or so months after I'd uploaded it. There were also a few little additions I wanted to make to the Outrun 30th Anniversary video I made back in 2016, so thought I might as well add those in too. Also, I managed to get involved in some online multiplayer on the PS3 game a few weeks ago, check out one of the races here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpWmnXyBfq6Xq7M If you enjoyed my look back at this series, why not check out my thoughts on *Sonic & All-Star Racing Transformed* - one of my favourite games of the last 10 years kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZu1ipZ9atd7aM0 How about another classic Sega franchise - the *Wonder Boy* games (including a review of Monster Boy the latest modern day addition): kzbin.info/www/bejne/h36ToYWMnNVqlaM Also, more gaming documentaries from me: *25 Years of Daytona USA - The Game, The Legacy, The Complete History:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/maLdn2lmeaybp6s *Outrun (by Sega) 30th Birthday Tribute - The game, the legacy!* -kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHuTZWloi56Wl9E *30 Years of After Burner by Sega - the game, the legacy:* - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHiogWSbf7Nrh5I *Sega Model 3 & The Dreamcast - WTF Went Wrong?!?* kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJXJepd-oaablas

[@MrThunderwing]

I got asked on a non-English speaking form if I could recap the pros and cons of each version in text form. I thought I might as well add what I wrote there to the comments here as well: With the exception of the PSP all versions of the game ran at 60fps -Xbox Outrun 2: Arguably the best looking 6th Generation console version of the game; can display in 480p anamorphic widescreen and upscales nicely into 720p when played on an Xbox 360 (although does suffer from some occasional frame rate judder and sometimes problems when transitioning from one course to another on 360). Contained the original 15 OR2 tracks and 12 cars (4 more than the arcade Chihiro game) and lots of original mission modes and challenges. It also contained two bonus courses that weren't subsequently included in Coast 2 Coast or Outrun Online Arcade, made up of tracks from the old Sega arcade racers Scud Race and Daytona USA 2. The Japanese Xbox version of the original Outrun 2 had some cosmetic and minor gameplay changes made to the bonus stages to make them look and play more accurately to the Scud Race and Daytona 2 arcade games, so the Japanese version is arguably the best version of Outrun 2. There's no force feedback ability if you're using a wheel, but outstanding controls with an Xbox Joypad, with incredibly intuitive rumble that lets you feel all the gear changes and bumps in the road. Easy to use system link (for I think a maximum of 6 players?) if you've got multiple Xboxs with a good stable game connection throughout. To me, feels like the hardest version of the game. The hard level cars actually feel hard to control, especially with manual transmission. Also contained a bonus unlockable version of the original 1986 Outrun. -Coast 2 Coast on consoles: Although C2C didn't include the bonus stages from Outrun 2, it did include all 15 stages from the original arcade version of Outrun 2 and the 15 new stages from Outrun 2 SP. It also included extra cars (bringing the total up to 15) and special souped up versions of all the regular cars. Whereas the original Outrun 2 had been an Xbox exclusive, the home ports of Outrun 2 SP were multi-system, with the original Xbox, PS2, PSP (and later PC) receiving a version of the game. Allegedly, this lead to a slight reduction in the quality of the graphics on the Xbox port, as the game was developed as a multi-platform title that had to account for the PS2 and PSP which weren’t as graphically powerful as the Xbox. I was always under the impression though that the slight quality drop was due to the fact that Coast 2 Coast just contained so much more content than the original Outrun 2, so some compromises had to be made. It's not super noticeable, but the anti-aliasing on the cars seems a tiny bit more jaggy and the draw distance on the road markings isn't quite so good. Not sure about the PSP, but both OG Xbox and PS2 support widescreen 480p with the OG Xbox version being once again backwards compatible with 360, and unlike the original OR2, running with no glitches that I could notice and looking nice upscaled to 720p. Original Xbox is the best looking console version with PS2 coming 2nd and PSP 3rd. The Japanese version of C2C on the PS2 had it's name changed back to Outrun 2 SP and had some end of stage animations from the arcade version of OR2SP added back in that are missing from all the other home versions and also some extra music too. It's also the only version of C2C that has working force feedback for steering wheels. I can't comment on the control on the 2 PlayStation games, but with a pad, Coast 2 Coast handles just as well as Outrun 2. The Xbox system link option is as equally easy to set-up as OR2 and offers an equally good stable connection. The game also had a load of challenge and mission modes, with the nice touch that some of them would feature courses that would mix and match stages from both SP and OR2. Coast 2 Coast also added in the ability to slipstream the CPU traffic and rivals and featured some new animations in the bunki sections of the game (where you transition from one stage to the next) that would differ depending on how well you did in the stage. Arguably easier than OR2. Collisions are punished far more severely in Outrun 2, with the player losing a lot of speed if you drift into traffic or a CPU opponent. Coast 2 Coast by comparison seems to allow you to pretty much plough through other cars, trucks and buses with only minimal speed loss. Hard level cars feel a fair bit easier to control in this version too. It also adds in a Marathon mode allowing you to race all 15 SP or OR2 tracks back-to-back. Also features a special dusk mode for the first Palm Beach course from OR2 and a night mode for the Sunny Beach stage from OR2SP when played in Time Attack. -Coast 2 Coast on PC: Contains all the content of the console versions. The first true HD version of the game, supporting resolutions up to 1080p, however it didn’t include any bloom effects (the optical effect where light from a bright source, such as a the Sun, appears to leak into surrounding objects) The PC version of Coast 2 Coast featured no rumble functionality whatsoever for joypads and was not optimised for racing wheels. You could plug your wheel in and use it, but the game would treat it the same as a joypad, meaning there was a massive deadzone on the wheel’s X axis. You can set-up a wireless LAN using the PC version of C2C very easily, but the connection is very temperamental and prone to failing. The in game timers will get out of sync, cars will warp all over the screen, PCs will totally de-sync. Members of the gaming community were able to help fix these shortcomings though. The OR2 FXT hack (created by Howard Casto) added rumble for joypads, corrected the deadzone in racing wheels and also added force feedback to the game. The hack also allows you to swap out music in the game and change the appearance of parts of the in game menus to appear more arcade like as well as lots of other stuff. Sometime after this it was discovered that the bloom effects actually were in the PC version of Outrun Coast 2 Coast, but were contained in an incorrect folder when the game installed. By simply cutting and pasting a file called lens flare offset.bin from the game’s media folder into the games common folder, it enabled the effects! With all these fixes added to the game it is now arguably the best version of Coast 2 Coast. -Outrun Online Arcade (PS3 & Xbox 360): A digital only version of the game that contained only the 15 SP tracks, as well as a reduction in the number of cars back to 10 and a reduced selection of tunes. Displays in 720p HD, but looks significantly better than the PC version as it has superior bloom effects (it looks way better, even with the bloom effects in the correct folder and working on the PC). The bloom here looks a lot nicer than the Xbox versions of OR2 and Coast 2 Coast as well (It's been mentioned to me that the Xbox version of Coast also has issues with it's bloom - the sun is completely missing in the OG Xbox version for the OutRun 2 SP courses, most notably, in the opening Sunny Beach stage the Sun is suppose to be visible and shining when you climb the first hill). Despite being a highly stripped down version of Coast 2 Coast the game did feature the end of course animations that were missing in all the other versions of Coast 2 Coast, apart from the Japanese PS2, and it also featured force feedback for racing wheels too. It also lets you play the Heart attack mission modes and features the 15 stage Marathon mode. I've never played the 360 version, but playing on a PS3 with a pad, the rumble functions are extremely week, to the point I can barely feel it do anything with the settings at maximum (also I hate playing racing games using the R2 and L2 triggers on a Dualshock 3 pad, your fingers constantly feel like they want to slip off them). Despite the lack of rumble, the game handles really well and has the easier handling of C2C rather than OR2. Was playable online back in the day, but no local system link options. Has been de-listed now, so you can no longer purchase it from PSN or XBLA. -Outrun 2 SPDX (Teknoparrot): The actual arcade version of Outrun 2 SP DX hacked to run on Windows 10 PCs. I own Windows 7 so haven't been able to play it (boo!) but from what I see it's just as nice looking as Outrun Online Arcade (in terms of bloom) and it's got ALL 15 OR2 and SP stages in and you can play it in resolutions up to 4K. Also supports FFB and network play. Doesn't feature all the content from Coast 2 Coast, with some cars missing and none of the challenge modes. The graphics can apparently be problematic when played in Tekknoparrot without certain downloadable fixes.

[@Noobsaibot21]

Two things of note. The testerossa in Outrun 2 arcade has a different appearance (Big grill look). This look made it onto the Xbox Outrun demo on the computer controlled cars but the car you select (and in all versions after) was the one we all recall seeing. Also, PS2 port of OOA was obviously graphically weaker but an AMAZING achievement. Same with PSP (the devs intentionally sacrificed speed for looks). Also, the jPS2 Outrun 2SP features arcade-accurate scoring for Outrun mode (2006 for some reason halved the points for traffic you passed)

[@MrThunderwing]

@@Noobsaibot21 Interesting (KZbin seems to be really hit and miss at the moment at actually notifying me on replies to comments, I've only just seen this comment).

[@Noobsaibot21]

@@MrThunderwing post script 2 when? :P

[@MrThunderwing]

@@Noobsaibot21 I've just update the video description with this bit of extra info you mentioned about the Testarossa. I'd totally forgotten you'd mentioned it here, derp.

[@SleepyMook]

I want sega to port outrun 2 over to PS4, Xbox one, switch, and PC. Heck I want them to make a new outrun game, this game is my favorite racing/driving game of all time.

[@_lun4r_]

It is on PC!

[@budgiecat9039]

@@_lun4r_ meh

[@_lun4r_]

@@budgiecat9039 just install mods lol

[@superbroly64DS]

@Yu Tubaru yeah Mario kart is a fine game but it's no Sega racer unfortunately no attitude no punk rock/tropical music Mario Kart is an entertaining game to play but it will never surpass sega's racers

[@SALIM86]

I want sage to make a new game console and show $ony

[@megaheroes3611]

Use the name ENTIRETY as a license name but cancel and you will have everything unlock with no linking on the PS2 and PSP versions. This game is a blast on PS2 and looks pretty impressive for a game on a 6 year old system at the time in my opinion.

[@megaheroes3611]

Fun fact: The Drifting, Avoid Crashing Into Stuff, Cut Through Lines and Collecting Stuff missions were reused in Sonic Sega All Stars Racing, Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed and Team Sonic Racing. but changed up for the unique mission like avoid breaking pots as Big in SASASR, drift on areas in various levels in SAASRT and go between robots in TSR. It's Interesting to see Sega and Sumo Digital's first team up before Sonic's true racing games.

[@Christof_Classen]

@@megaheroes3611 *Thank you for the INFO ;)*

[@kartoffelkopf7010]

Great video, thank you so much for all the informations!

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

Best Outrun2 video ever.

[@MrThunderwing]

Cheers bud!

[@filippoaccorinti3399]

Are you sure? Let's discuss it!

[@isamuu99]

It goes without saying Mr Thunderwing's videos are the absolute BEST vids to watch when it comes to all things Sega arcade racers, and this video simply re-inforces that fact! Other than your 30th Anniversary Vid, this is the greatest OR2 vid on YT and is a MUST WATCH for any OR2 fan. I've learned a lot about Sega's arcade racers that I didn't know before, from watching your vids bro. Keep them coming and keep up the great work!! Everyone that watches this vid needs to like and subscribe ASAP!!!!!

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks bro! I appreciate it.

[@errantbard937]

This is my favourite game of all time, glad to see such a thoroughly comprehensive study on all it's various versions. I think I might have to try and get a copy of the PC version.

[@DDRFreak410]

I can confirm that Teknoparrot fixed the shadow and sun issues like two days ago and also audio issues with Lindbergh have been addressed as well. Both this game and Virtua Fighter 5 are both playable properly now. Still need Windows 10 however. The devs did mention too that they plan to incorporate TP Online for OutRun 2 SDX which will mean that you can play the game online via steam. Just like Initial D and Mario Kart Arcade GP DX

[@MrThunderwing]

Good to know Roshawn, cheers!

[@CanaldoZenny]

I have the PS2 Coast 2 Coast version, yoi csn unlock everything by just entering two cheat codes on the driver's license. No need for the PSP version. The game runs at 60 FPS with few small dips when there's many cars on certain stages. The game looks good on my CRT, crisp and colorful, easily the best looking PS2 game.

[@mogueraguh]

Do you have the pal version or ntsc u version?

[@mrsensible99]

Very comprehensive video look across the different versions of OutRun 2/SP/C2C. As someone who's just rediscovered their love of the OR series, I appreciate the excellent and detailed breakdown!

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks dude!

[@DreddMeister]

I've always played the PC version until recently when I tried the PS2 version. What's amazing about the PC version is that it's able to run on a potato while still looking good. Even my 12 year old budget Pentium Dual Core laptop runs it flawlessly.

[@MrThunderwing]

I used to have a Pentium 4 single core PC that could run this well.

[@andrewbutler9533]

I have the PS2 Coast to Coast I bought back in 2006 and the online arcade I bought in 2009. Fingers permanently crossed my PS3 never dies. It's one of my all time faves. Great vid mate 👍

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks man, I too hope my PS3 never dies for the same reason.

[@IROC-ROB]

This is by far the best comparison I’ve ever seen

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks!

[@johnnycage3673]

I was watching the video thinking "no matter what he's going to say, MY favorite version is the PC one" - now at the end of the video I'm glad to see we agree 😄👍

[@MrThunderwing]

Boom!

[@johnnycage3673]

It's also worth mentioning that you can supersample the sh*t out of it nowadays even on mid and low end spec PC.

[@NoxNyctores427]

Probably worth a revisit now that the PC version got the mod that's been needed for years

[@MarcusTDM]

Really good video. I still love Outrun 2 on my original Xbox. I think the visuals still stand up even today. Nice one mate.

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks buddy.

[@jasonlee7816]

MarcusTDM you should give a reason or reasons why Out Run 2 still stands up by today's standards

[@miketate3445]

It's amazing how well the graphics hold up.

[@Chris-Courage]

While 2006 has extra stuff like more tracks+music, I still like the simplicity of the original Outrun 2. I can start it up and start playing a game much faster without having to click through a whole bunch of stuff in the menus for 2006.

[@MagnaLynx21]

Great watch! I fell down this rabbit hole recently after getting a Sony PVM monitor and an Xbox RGB cable to see the Xbox version of 2 running at its best. After spending a week trying to get both an actual copy and then (out of frustration) a "totally legal" copy of the PC version of C2C to work on Windows 10 to mixed results and / failure, I bit the bullet and snagged one of the pricy Xbox copies of C2C (it was CeX and yes there was a PS2 copy for £8 a few shelves down!) but it's a great instance of a rare game being worth the price if you actually want to play it. Plus, having the luxury of playing it on a 360 both on the PVM and a modern display has been great and I can't put it down. I generally only play with a pad so I was happy to settle with Xbox C2C. That said, I will say it's probably worth noting that the PC version of C2C, when I did get it to run, works great with BetterJoyForCemu and I was able to use a Switch Pro Controller with the same layout as a Xbox 360 controller which was a great fit.

[@samidekash]

Thanks a lot for informing about the wrong pc folder! Looks way better now. :)

[@AzureLazuline]

This video doesn't cover one of the most important differences to me, the *audio.* The PC version has distractingly bad sound balance, with some sounds like the engine being half as loud as they should be, and other sounds like the "whoosh" from passing cars being way too loud. It sounds like a nitpick, but it makes it very difficult for me to play that version because of how i work. The English release of Coast 2 Coast has a lot of problems with music looping, with all the Genesis music fading out and restarting even in a normal 5-track race. The JP version adds full looping to those as well as the 7 normal OR2 songs, so they're seamless even in 15-track continuous. This is another thing that's really important to me, since 15-track is the best mode, and nothing ruins the groove like a fadeout into 10 seconds of silence twice per race. (I'm not sure if the PC version has looped music or not, the other thing bugged me too much for me to check...) My personal opinion after trying them all is *the JP PS2 version (OutRun 2 SP) is the best one,* since it has the bonus songs, the best audio, the ending animations, and all the C2C content. Running it on emulator lets you play it in HD, which isn't quite as nice as the actual HD versions but it looks good enough to me! It supports force feedback wheels too on PS2, though i dunno if that works in an emulator (i don't have one to try it on). Also important... *it just works*, unlike the endless tweaking you need to do on PC/Teknoparrot. The only thing i feel like i'm missing is that awesome route editor on PC, but oh well!

[@MrThunderwing]

Hmmmm, that's interesting, I've never noticed any massive differences in the audio between the PC and console versions. The main thing I noticed was the SFX being a bit too quiet in the PC game, but that was something you could adjust in game. The cars have never sounded too loud to me with the overtaking noises, I wonder if it could be a difference in your PC audio setup to mine? Over the years I stopped listening to anything except the 3 OG Outrun tunes, so the issues with the other ones looping isn't something I was especially aware of. I agree about the _just works_ thing, that's definitely a massive plus point in a game's favour 👍

[@BeasT-gw6fb]

Damn this game was my childhood im coming back to it now

[@Azel954]

Excellent video. OutRun 2 is pure bliss and I wanted to find the best version possible.

[@Faapu]

I found a peculiar arcade machine in Greece: the cabinet itself was adorned with the title "Outrun 2017 Coast 2 Coast" but in game it was called "Outrun 2016 Coast 2 Coast". The menu looked just like Outrun 2006 but every time I played it no matter what I did on the menu it went straight for Outrun 2 SP, also it seemed to run on Windows hardware.

[@MrThunderwing]

Interesting. It sounds like it's probably a pirate machine running the PC game rather than the proper Chihiro version of Outrun 2 (or Lindbergh version of Outrun 2 SPDX)

[@vv09]

I had a similar experience here in the Philippines. The machine was located at an arcade which was inside a resort and casino. The Outrun 2019 machine was featured prominently in an ad located inside the casino. The game was pretty much the same as what King Harkinian found, but what pissed me off the most is that all the music in the game was changed to some obnoxious Chinese music.

[@RivalGT]

I honestly dont think you can go wrong with any version of Outrun2/2006. The best looking versions is the Arcade on TeknoParrot, and the emulated version of online Arcade on RPCS3, both run flawless as well at 60 fps and no frame rate issues. The emulated PS2 version is interesting because that has plenty of content and has lan support, the JP version took out the online/lan support, but you get 4 extra songs.

[@omarshaikh5455]

I got the Japanese PS2 release of OutRun 2 SP. I kinda like the extra content not found in OutRun 2006.

[@COLOFIDUTI]

Loved and miss how sega (and pretty much all industry back then) pushed hardware in both framerate and visual,nowadays ultra high resolutions cripple the hardware and in turn affecting visuals and framerate.Man my og xbox in component looks amazing on 480p,sorry just a old man 's rant🤣 Great video man!a complete analisys! ps: you forgot to mention the amazing audio that this game has, i got my xbox hooked to a dolby receiver...and man what treat!

[@luichinplaystation610]

The intro makes me jealous amazing setup

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks man! fortunately I picked up both of my copies of Coast 2 Coast on the OG Xbox back in the day, so it was before they got crazy expensive.

[@miguelrivasmorales4454]

Despite you didn’t cover the PS2 and PSP versions, I wanted to tell you this. I was playing Outrun 2006 in my PSP, normally, it was playing at 30FPS with little slowdowns of 20FPS, I remember finishing the Big Forest stage from SP, when the stage transition was in progress, my game started running at 60FPS locked! I was clearly a bug, because of the stage transitions being very unstable and didn’t load the stages immediately, surprisingly, I finished the last 2 stages with 60FPS, after finishing, the game was normally running at 30FPS with the slowdowns, but this proves that the PSP version can be played in 60FPS locked.

[@MrThunderwing]

I did speak about the PS2 and PSP versions, it's not like I 'didn't cover' them.

[@neverbeforeseen160]

This is the content I'm looking for.

[@Bad.Ju.Ju.]

Great vid bro! Im late to the party, but I really appreciate the time spent in doing this video.

[@Danhanado]

That desync behaviour where cars will go shifting around like mad it's still present to this day in Sumo Digitals most recent releases, you'll get this alot in Team Sonic Racing and Sonic and AllStars Racing Transformed

[@MrThunderwing]

Interesting. I've got both but never actually played online with either.

[@knightofvirtue613]

Excellent video, made me realize that the xbox 360 version of this game (Outrun Online edition) was inferior because of the missing game modes and cars. Running the PS2 version of Coast to Coast upscaled to 1440p at a locked 60 fps works amazing, brings the visual quality up to the 360 version. GLHF regardless of which version you choose to play.

[@Riz2336]

From a dude who's a huge fan of the original 1986 game I really wanted to play this but didn't own any of the consoles it was released on so I looked around on the internet today and downloaded the pc version. Glad I did, I was missing out on a great game for a long time

[@MrThunderwing]

Enjoy! It's ace

[@Fattydeposit]

This video is magnificent

[@MrThunderwing]

Thank you Sir!

[@user-ck3fv2be9x]

OutRun 2 Tweaks is the best!!

[@germansauer3283]

Actually in the psp older games did not have the full procesing power of the psp unlocked by design but this can be done on this day with homebrew, i set the default psp cpu lock to 333/166 and coas2coast runs at 60fps with no drops.

[@MrThunderwing]

Excellent! Good to know the PSP version can match it's PS2 big brother.

[@gamernaut8864]

The PS2 version does support 2-8 player system link via LAN, just like the XBOX version. Great video. Thanks for the in-depth comparison of one of the greatest arcade racers ever.

[@azrael_III]

thanks for the video, it deserves more views and likes. big old fan of the series,I went to be good in wipeout and redout and forgot to get good at this one "mainly drifting" :) i just got the pc version and i'm applying the mods and we'll see how it works out.

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks man. I think the view count on this has unfortunately been negatively affected by the fact I've had to upload it twice, owing to KZbin cocking the resolution up on the first one and only allowing it to be viewed in 360p. First upload was up to over 1000 views and about 70 comments within a week.

[@realmchat6665]

The pc version plays great with a 360 pad, and is still my favorite racing game - thanks for covering the awesome Outrun 2 series.

[@Danhanado]

Also worth noting that playing 2006 on a 360 has some unusual bugs, the two I've noticed are very long loading screens for the first time you start a "match" (not nearly as long in subsequent matches), and an issue where looping sound effects, like engine noises and tire screeches will sometimes persist and the only way to stop it is by restarting the entire game

[@MrThunderwing]

Yep, I've noticed the mega long load times on 360. That audio bug with certain sounds persisting is something that can also happen in Outrun 2.

[@samidekash]

Wow, thanks a lot for this ultimate review!

[@BUDA20]

Outrun Online Arcade (PS3) is the one I find myself playing the most, is a superb port

[@Danhanado]

Did you know that the lens flare offset bin file is also misslocated in the Xbox version of 2006, moving it back into the common folder on my modded 360 makes it look even better, adding sun glare where it wasn't before amongst other things

[@MrThunderwing]

Interesting. I mention it in my follow on video, but in the OG XBOX version of C2C the Sun is entirely missing on the Sunny Beach stage. I wonder if the fix you mentioned also corrects that.

[@Danhanado]

@@MrThunderwing Yeah I watched that and that's why I mentioned the sun glare as it does restore it in the sunny beach stage

[@DKTronics70]

You can improve the graphical quality of the PC version, and get it looking like PS3 arcade version, by using a specially tweaked Reshade preset for this game only. You can add better bloom, increase sunlight and darken the shadows by using a trick in Reshade, and even slightly increase the vibrance - giving it a less washed out look. Reshade also has some advanced sharpening shaders which, if used sparingly, can enhance details without introducing shimmer - it makes the look amazing at anything from 1440p and above.

[@MrThunderwing]

Awesome, I'll have to look into it.

[@karadanianoI]

great video mate! i loved every second of this well narrated documentary. as a fan of outrun 2 i must say i enjoyed every bit of my classic xbox copy (and even to this day i play it from time to time). the pc one was a little slugish for me but it got the job done. the ps2 one definetely deserves a try. that game pushes its hardware and manages to feel true to the arcade. the psp one is a great achievement, and the reason of why i got one back in time. i can't speak about teknoparrott because for some reason all i see in the screen are garbage graphics. maybe its my old HD 6670? there are so many ways to play this classic, you can't go wrong with any of them!

[@MrThunderwing]

Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@MisterAlerion]

Outrun 2006 C2C on PC with Feel The Road mod running at 4K. Best Outrun game ever. I'm sure with a proper wheel setup it would be fantastic.

[@siliconknights]

we need an outrun 2 2004 decompilation

[@IamcountachYT]

And don't forget the half assed chinese counterfeit of outrun, which is outrun 2013 coast 2 coast, I say it's half assed because the steering wheel isn't put in properly by the arcade makers

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, think I've seen some photos of those knockoff Outrun 2 cabinets.

[@berkkarsi]

I wish we could just have one definitive edition with the best graphics and the most content that runs on all platforms.

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, it's a real shame that Sega didn't decided to go down that route with the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions, rather than the cut back versions we ended up with.

[@scripter466]

I've also played all versions and have to say that the original arcade version, which was released again in 2006 as an 1080P upgrade version (SPDX), is the best, at least graphically (track lighting). At home you can only get it through emulation. Then you can also change the resolution (up to 4K) with the appropriate EXEs. In the meantime an annoying lighting bug has been fixed, only some little sound glitches are sometimes noticable. Now the emulated version is nearly the perfect one! If you also have a racing cockpit at home, everything in the arcade version can be operated with the steering wheel, just like in the arcade. Unfortunately, the topic of emulation is in a gray area, which is why it can rarely be given space here..

[@rayaspo4893]

Fantastic game. SEGA was my and countless others childhood and i absolutely love them. My personal favourite is the arcade version running on teknoparrot at home with a force feedback wheel in a modern resolution. OH that drifting!!!!! I WANNA GO FAR AWAY.........

[@c2ironfist]

Good to know all PC versions in all regions are in english I see listings on Ebay for the pc version and want able to decide Still looking up to see if its compatible with windows 10

[@superbroly64DS]

The PS2 versions of coast to coast have gotten up recently good thing I bought this game for like $28 a while back on eBay

[@KonkeyVG]

Excellent video, really informative. It may be objectively the worst of the bunch in terms of visuals and performance but the PSP version of C2C is still so impressive to me. So close to the PS2 version that saves can be transferred between the two versions. Really outstanding for the system, though it doesn't really compare to the other versions of the game as you say.

[@themriron2391]

The Xbox version of C2C probably received slightly less visual touching up because it was a multi-platform game as you said. Memory wouldn’t be the issue, as only one course is actively loaded in memory at a time and remains on the disc otherwise, so in game there’s no difference really. In fact, it’s worth noting that the PS2 version of OutRun 2 SP actually added antialiasing, possibly only because it was getting some individual treatment from Sega. The original PS2 C2C looks pretty rough since the PS2’s output was often overly sharp anyway, but the option for 480p was good. The PSP version is interesting because it’s very faithful, but it feels quite jarring to play - the game tends to run at 20FPS unless you’ve forced the game to run at a higher CPU speed using a hacked system. It also has a 16:9 HUD, because the PSP’s display is 16:9 - unlike any other version of the game before Online Arcade! Which would make it the only 6th gen version to have a 16:9 HUD, I believe. Not going to change its visual downgrades and frame rate, but nice to have.

[@gazarnott]

This video would have looked SO MUCH BETTER if it was in 360p. A man can dream......

[@MrThunderwing]

Heh, you daft bugger.

[@yorkshirepud6676]

C2C for me played it at a friends house many hours went by sooooo good!

[@TechRyze]

Link-up works fine with a network switch, so your router isn't especially needed nearby, although it's the easy option.

[@Society.9]

I have Outrun 2 SP SDX at an arcade where I live... It's so much fun

[@aaqibrawat3863]

Incredible video . Grabbing outrun 2 for.the original xbox now!

[@bmw320540750]

great review thanks a lot.... this game is one of my favorite, those theme(Music) brings me back the old nice memories when i use to play the original outrun 1986 on the arcade

[@djcalle1975]

Awesome video thanks for the very comprehensive comparison

[@abj14u2c]

Time for another OutRun Sega...

[@MrThunderwing]

Right?

[@SuperSealMan777]

After what they did to daytona 3? Eh. Maybe just let it rest ;(

[@chubbyboy2242]

Nice job!

[@MrThunderwing]

Nice one dude!

[@samuraispiritsx]

dude this video is fantastic, thank you for the info

[@stf9996]

Fantastic video as usual (I watched'em all). My favorite version is the PC version with it's solid 60fps and no slowdown + the ability to play the original Outrun 2 in 1080p.

[@HunterTinsley]

Great video. I think the PC C2C with FXT is the best version. I wish it had the bonuses and modes of Xbox O2, but even lacking those it's still the superior experience.

[@endoeone3337]

I would like to see all these arcade games on Xbla and Psn, with online multiplayer leaderboards. Daytona, Initial D etc

[@SaminPK]

Supreme OR2 tribute video, Thanks!!

[@MrThunderwing]

Glad you liked it!

[@MIK_F40]

As I was one of the worlds best players of the home versions..., (known as F40 back in the day). In my opinion if your a casual Outrunner then any of the versions available will do you proud! If your a diehard and want as close to the arcade as possible the classic xbox versions are the holy grail of the home versions. And they are best played using an old school CRT with a real classic xbox as this perfectly replicates the responce, feel and weight of the arcade versions. The arcades were designed to run on xbox tech so that's a given why they are closer in feel to the real arcade machines. Outrun 2006 does have different passing scores in Outrun mode when passing a rival Ferrari compared to the arcade OutRun2SP but as the arcade leaderboards have long been gone it's not really an issue today. OutRun Online Arcade which is based on the PC version was thankfully tweaked just before release so the rival passing scores are correct to the arcade Outrun2SP.

[@MrThunderwing]

F40! I know who you are my man (I think you were also known as Virtua Racing somewhere...? Maybe GameFAQs? Noobsaibot and Issamu are guys I often chat Outrun related stuff about in my video comments), good to see you here. I've definitely watched some of your old OR2 vids back in the day and been impressed with your skill level.

[@MIK_F40]

​@@MrThunderwing Ha! Yeah I was V.R and Gamefaqs it was with also guys like Sega Spence, RJAY63, Model3, tomtum and special guest Steve Lycett from Sumo Digital. 😃 But yeah like you say these days it's easier to go with the PC version if anyone wants to get back into it. Interesting to know some fans have updated the PC version for the better! Good times tho back then and nice to see a modern day video created by a UK fan for a change, Cheers!

[@deadpoetmischief637]

The PC version of OR2006 C2C did have bloom but the file for it was in the wrong folder. lens_flare_offset.bin needs to be moved from the Media folder to the Common folder.

[@MrThunderwing]

15:14

[@deadpoetmischief637]

@@MrThunderwing Correct. I'd paused the video, when it mentioned the PC version not having bloom, in order to post this. When I unpaired I realised the video did mention this, but left the comment anyway.

[@orakaa]

Currently playing "Outrun 2 SP" (PS2) on my Arcade cabinet (with Batocera, at 1080p) and having a blast on it.

[@afriend9428]

*XBOX is one amazing machine!* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

[@IronicSonic83]

So, any follow up to the recent emoose fix for PC version? Now It seems PC is the definitve version, at least content wise

[@teddym2808]

This sort of thing is video game porn to me. Instant sub. Hope to go through many of your other videos soon. Cheers!

[@Vvewa]

My vote would be og xbox versions on a crt for no input delay and motion clarity for the speed.

[@miikasuominen3845]

I'd say I like the corrected PC-version of CtC the most. It looked fantastic with 3 displays, running 60fps with everything maxed. Though now I have a single 4k screen... I also have original xbox version with added japan extras etc, along with Ps2 and Ps3... And Psp xD So, basically I just have to choose my poison 😜

[@Victor-it6bv]

I wish i could get a copy of the xbox360 arcade version

[@FoxBox72]

Thanks for this video. As a big Outrun 2 fan, I've watched it several times. (It would benefit from text on screen letting us know which screenshot is which version). The Teknoparrot version needs a 'FFB plugin' to allow force feedback to work. Then it's great. I've found the FXT hack on the C2C PC version really difficult to get working consistently on my PC, for reasons too complicated to fathom. I'm lucky enough to live near an arcade that still has 2 (of its original 4) Outrun 2 cabs running. The screens are burning out, though. I'd love to bring them home with me one day and set them up in the bedroom. But I don't think my wife would approve ! :-) Anyway, thanks. I'm setting up a retro driving rig and enjoying a few of your videos. Subscribed.

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, now that the Teknoparrot version of Outrun 2 SPDX works in Windows 7 I've had it up and running with the force feedback plugin for awhile now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrVeKN7ppyXr8k glad you've enjoyed the video enough to watch it several times. Although I don't put text on screen, the version on screen is normally the version I'm talking about at that particular point in the video. Don't forget to check out part 2 of the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3u3gZhtlqersJY

[@davess61]

twenty years after giving up gaming altogether, I am genuinely thinking about buying an original Xbox and a copy of outrun 2 :-)

[@MrThunderwing]

@@davess61 This is the way!

[@virtuafighter3]

Well researched video here. You know your stuff.

[@Matt08719801]

the tecknoparrot version works in windows 7 now

[@MrThunderwing]

Yes, I talk all about that in Part 2 of this video, which I made about 4 years ago (which I pinned a link to in the comments here).

[@zaktvtv7257]

I first played outrun when i was 8... trocadero in central london arcade.. i am now 22... and still play coast 2 coast daily... man maybe i have problems! Or those ferraris are just so damn pretty... with the most rewarding drifts

[@MrThunderwing]

Well I think I first played Outrun when I would've been 10 or 11. I'm now 44 and I still play it and Outrun 2 all the time.

[@zaktvtv7257]

@@MrThunderwing do you think there will ever be a new one?

[@MrThunderwing]

@@zaktvtv7257 I'd love to see an Outrun 3, but I think it's pretty unlikely we ever will.

[@teddym2808]

I must admit, even today, Online arcade is very pleasant to play in RPCS3 at 4K (and yes the original game is still owned on my PS3, no pirating here). It's the highest def version you can currently play. I will always have my biggest soft spot for OG Xbox version(s) of Outrun 2, but they don't emulate well at all and although I still have the original discs, complete in box with manual, I don't have a working Xbox nor even a TV slot for one. No room. Can't even use my 360 and PS3 anymore, I have precisely room for two things and both vertically placed - my PS5 and Series X. Just! I now have a very powerful laptop as my all in one everything PC, (13980HX/4090/64GB ram) and Outrun 2 STILL doesn't emulate properly at anything more than 2x resolution. If that. And as you can imagine it looks dreadful at 1x res on a modern mini LED 4K panel. Still, I have ripped all of my 251 OG Xbox games and about half work OK ish in Xemu, and I'll keep testing them every week. If Xemu added GPU acceleration it would be as fast as CXBX but with actual decent compatibility. I really hope he does this some day. Then Outrun 2 in 4K would be possible without a sweat.

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast. is the best version for me, all my bets on it. Also, the bloom effect somehow went missing through development, but it can be added back editing a file.

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah dude, I talk about how you can get them working again at 15:13

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

@@MrThunderwing My bad

[@shinjiikarir]

I mean psp to me is unbeatable... being able to play anywhere and in a decent quality, just amazing specially for 2006-07

[@FerrosFRG]

Awesome video, you earned a new subscriber

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks man, glad you liked it.

[@DadLadsGaming]

Excellent video buddy.

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks dude!

[@LJ7000]

I think we really need a comparison between the JP PS2 Outrun 2SP vs the Xbox Outrun SP2

[@MrThunderwing]

@@LJ7000 If I had a Japanese PS2 I'd love to do a comparison.

[@LJ7000]

@@MrThunderwing I have JP SP 2, but no ability to record and do side by side but I'm just sure the Japanese release runs much better than C2C, I just can't find any info as to why. People often say JP Outrun 2SP is just the same as C2C with wheel support, but it clearly isn't. I think the SP mode at least plays very different.

[@laumpolumpio]

You forgot to mention that, on the og xbox version of Outrun 2 (and I recall 2066 ctc too) you had to have a modded console then either patch the iso file with a "flicker fucker" software or deactivate it from the settings menu on the xbmc to get rid of the blurryness, the result is a much more sharper image quality.

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, not so much 'forgot to mention' more I've never, ever heard of "flicker fucker" before or ever seen anyone mention it in conjunction with Outrun 2. I did a little search on Google to find out more and the only reference to Outrun 2006 I could find was from one person who said '...the graphics become incredibly sharp, but to my mind it looks a bit nicer in blur-o-vision.' and someone else who said 'With the flicker filter turned off everything (as JP said) looks like early PS2 games, with massive jaggies and (most importantly) eye-destroying flickering. Sure, the image is sharp, but so is a dirty knife, and you wouldn't stab that into your eye.'

[@Surgicaldamage]

PS2 unlocked to 380 steering on the G27, has the weak but reasonable ffb ( not just centering spring, like RR7).

[@HALFSQUASHED]

My G27 wont work on the ps2 version of the game at all.

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Outrun 2 SP is also on the PlayStation 2, NTSC-J

[@MrThunderwing]

I can't provide any links to the game, but you can see a tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX6QhoawoLZmndE

[@endoeone3337]

Awesome game

[@stuartchapman7934]

Epic Analysis of a Great Iconic Game! 👍👍🎯❤😃💯

[@tristanheron4144]

PPSSPP on Android with increased rendering resolution is a super easy way to play this game and have it look good.

[@toweleeielite]

thanks for the bloom tip mate ;)

[@MrThunderwing]

No problem 👍

[@Dance4lifeBR]

one of my favorite games !

[@tubeularvids]

I was best of the best at this game. You didn’t need to drift every turn that was the trick . I beat out everyone at the arcade. All the Asians would line up to play me. It was the best game I ever played. Ten years later Im still thinking about buying one . The sit down arcade version was divine.

[@mundomakina1980]

Very good video,,,,,,,,excellent presents versions,,,,,,,Saludos Mundo Makina

[@Matt08719801]

there is a PC version of Coast to coast , i run it in 4k in some of my pcs it looks great