Who DESERVED to be the 6th SPECIAL WAR POWER in Bleach: TYBW? Did Yhwach MISS One? | Discussion

[@MrTommo2304]

Who do you think deserved to be a Special War Power in TYBW? Do you agree with any of my picks at all? Let me know your choices down in the comments!

[@jtravel230]

Mayuri just gonna keep it real

[@animanco6833]

Histsugaya I feel like should be part of the special war. He’s young, powerful enough to be a high tier captain, so imagine if he was older. I mean his fully matured hyorinmaru was to able to freeze Gerald and all of his abilities in its track. Like that’s a big deal. I feel like it’s downplayed due to the fact how less experienced he is with his power and tends to hold back a bit

[@9thhokagegoku671]

mayuri and i’ll say ginjo because he’s the same thing as ichigo the only thing that differentiates the two is ichigo royal realm training

[@soul8648]

Mayuri should earn the title of mastermind

[@octoniko]

I would’ve gone with Mayuri’s adaptation/evolution. After one encounter he already had counters to the zombies, Bambi’s explosions, Quincy shadows, brought superior zombies (who were also stronger), had the light base, and altered his Zanpakuto again.

[@xxWillxx92]

Without a doubt Mayuri should've been listed for his madness.

[@soul8648]

he should have the title of the "mastermind"

[@lordknight7696]

​​@@soul8648The mad man suits him better

[@stop7556]

Possibly chaotic or unpredictable might have been better. Any planning title would compete with the urahara position.

[@10000Winters]

Aizen, Urahara and Mayuri honestly are a triumvirate of master planners and tacticians. It would make sense that Mayuri was listed along with them in the Special War Powers.

[@asuraphreak]

Honestly, I've always him as autistic. Obviously high functioning, but nevertheless autistic.

[@ML1399TheyStoleMyName]

I love that Juha looked at Kisuke and said "Idk what he's gonna do, but he's gonna do some shit. I want eyes on him"

[@Javetts]

And he was right lol.

[@jonart8433]

I feel the underestimation of Shinsui as a leader ultimately led to the downfall of the Quincy. He is really the reason they won. He made all the right decisions. Using Aizen, remotivating the shinigami, his power, his strategies, his experience and more. Dude was a menace. The most low key MVP.

[@dylantaylor8389]

Woah didn’t even consider this. Excellent point!

[@crammothy]

There were many MVPs on the Shinigami side if you think of it. So many people stepped up at crucial moments from Mayuri to Urahara to Kyoraku to of course Ichigo to Aizen for a bit, to Ichibe and Oetsu helping Ichigo achieve his full power, etc

[@joshshrum2764]

Yeah plus the man used his Bankai very rarely the man didn’t use it against Aizen.

[@Carolina3489Panthers]

I been saying the same thing for years. Shunsui’s leadership is crucial against the sternritter

[@343JustMe]

​@@crammothyMayuri was only the MVP of adapting to the initial madness, after that he didn't really do much

[@TheBigExclusive]

Obviously Chad is the 6th War power. He was gonna Dempsey Roll the Quincy King.

[@VTWS]

A real chad

[@jantjedoedelus8079]

Im glad Chad gave everyone a moment to shine without one shotting Ywach.

[@Psychoveliatonet]

"I can't even imagine Chad losing." - Gremmy

[@jasonau6866]

The Quincy King has never felt the power of Chad.

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

Obviously.

[@davidml1787]

What about everybody's favorite uncle Tsukishima? his power turned out to be crucial in dealing with the Almighty and restoring Ichigo's blade.

[@str8totehtop]

agree, was the 2nd that came into my mind right after mayuri

[@gammafrost]

You make a very good point. It’s like his power was the perfect counter for the almighty. I only wish he and the rest of the fullbringers actually did more this arc.

[@xxWillxx92]

This is a solid pick actually

[@Iamreallyfreakinggay]

Definitely think tsukishima should have made the list tbh he was pivotal and honestly had so much potential to have a huge role in this war. I’m kinda surprised he wasn’t more present from the beginning

[@DannerusMaximus]

This.

[@robertlee9602]

I think most here agree that Mayuri would be right on that list.

[@Mooinator3000]

Urahara just does Mayuri stuff better

[@MAYUTHEUNDEAD]

​@@Mooinator3000 not really, I mean the very end of that whole Mayuri vs Pernida fight, there is specific dialogue about how Mayuri finally stepped out of Urahara's shadow. They both have their own different ways of doing things, and their own quirks and methods, and their own strengths. Urahara plans things ahead, but Mayuri is extremely good at analyzing the situation and countering on the fly and he thrives in unexpected situations due to his madman curiosity and pursuit for discovery of the unknown.

[@hussainahamed6043]

​​@@MAYUTHEUNDEADhell nah.. What do u think... Myuri is better than urahara.. Are u high.? Urahara is better then mayuri in every aspect.. That's why he is the one of the 5 war potentials.. U guys think u are better than author 🤷‍♂️

[@MAYUTHEUNDEAD]

​@@hussainahamed6043 you have zero media literacy or reading comprehension. I said they both have their own strengths and different methods, I never said Mayuri is better than Urahara or vice versa.

[@shatterpointgaming215]

​@hussainahamed6043 Mayuri single handedly reversed the momentum of the war, brought the dead back, saved a couple of war potentials and came out of it better than ever. He put in more work than Kisuke.

[@Asin24]

I feel like Mayuri wasn't listed mostly due to being highly underestimated due to Aizen and Urahara. Just being seen as a lesser threat they likely didn't think to take him very seriously, and Mayuri in some ways thrives off being put into unexpected situations that spark his desire to come up with creative solutions being a bit of a madman.

[@luciussakura5031]

Yeah, I feel like Aizen and Urahara are planners (and they're really good at it), but Mayuri is more of an analyser. To me Mayuri thrives in the TYBW because he is really good at analysing situations and reacting to them. He might not be quite at Urahara's level of general intelligence or ability to plan, but imo he's got Urahara beat in this one category.

[@fenrirsilver6441]

@@luciussakura5031this even shows in his Bankai…

[@YhwachTheAlmighty.]

Yes it’s been 6months. I feel like he wasn’t a special threat given how he needs to do lab experiments or on field test to achieve a result he wants, while Kisuke is always has the answer ready to go or rather he kind a solution faster than Mayuri even during combat. Aizen is just strong and basically wins by overpowering enemies with his Spiritual Pressure. Flyzen vs IchiGoth was him testing how powerful he was, if he truly wanted to, Aizen could’ve just kept evolving and evolving without limit.

[@mowije]

@@YhwachTheAlmighty. What you even on about bruh? Urahara also needed experiments and field test to achieve a result. If he wasn't in Hueco Mundo and helped by the espadas, Inoue, and Chad he wouldn't have found a way to bring Bankai back which is his only use during the war. Without Mayuri, half of the captains which includes war potentials like Kenpachi would've been dead. Mayuri also beat Pernida who's so much more superior to Askin by himself. Urahara needed Yoruichi and Grimmjow's helped just to barely win and even then he would've been dead if Nel wasn't there. Urahara's entire feat in the wars is just him being lucky that he was at the right place at the right time. Again if he wasn't in Hueco Mundo during the war because of Ichigo he wouldn't have found a way to bring Bankai back or have the Espada helping him against Askin.

[@gustavosauro1882]

​@@mowijewhy do you think Pernida is stronger than Askin?

[@javierbustillopuerta9209]

Shunsui gets underestimated a lot. Not only is he strong, he is a pretty good tactician. One of the best in the series. Without his decisions, the Gotei would have lost the war. He is very pragmatic and smart.

[@princeterrence6411]

good point but nah, Mayuri is by far more valuable than him

[@chiii_studios]

​@@princeterrence6411not exactly cuz there is already someone for intelligence which is urahara,I mean look at shunsui he ordered for kenpachi to start training and was the one who made the decisions especially for aizen(so that's already 2 war threats in the game)and shunsui has great leadership skills,I'm giving it to shunsui in my opinion

[@aimannorzahariwod]

@@princeterrence6411 mayuri was allowed to flourish because of Shunsui. He's on a leash and kyoraku was controlling that crazy ass.

[@RenyxGhoul]

Only Kisuke and maybe Ichibe would have done the plans and tactics that Shunsui did.

[@gammafrost]

I honestly wonder just how messy things would have been had Aizen actually teamed up with Ywach initially 😂😂😂. Mayuri is definitely a worthy candidate as a 6th war potential. In my person opinion, I think Uryu could have potentially been a war potential considering the potential Ywach saw in him. It’s just a shame his role was minimal in the manga.

[@princemafia5550]

If Aizan had teamed up with the quincirs then the soul society would’ve stood no chance at all, unless Kyoraku or kenpachi somehow kill Aizan. Another possible scenario would be the aizan helps hear Uryu Ishida in his plan to act like a Soul society double against Wandenreich.

[@cian239]

It would have been over, unless Ichigo pulls off a miracle. Would Uryu still side with the quincies if Aizen was there. After all, Aizen wanted to murder everyone in his hometown

[@gabrielcastejon7914]

@@princemafia5550 Aizen is immortal to an absurd degree. I'm not sure if any of the hax in the series would be enough to kill him.

[@dontwatchmyvideoace1383]

aizen and Ywach would never workout because aizen wouldn't want to be second to Ywach.

[@gammafrost]

@@dontwatchmyvideoace1383I already know that. It was just a hypothetical situation and even if it did happened, it would have been temporary because Aizen would have betrayed him.

[@SamsarasArt]

I'll say Mayuri Kurotsuchi. He's a genius mad scientist that can prepare for almost anything. He was instrumental in the war.

[@BlackChapters]

had they listened to Mayuri, Yama might not have died beyond that he revived a bunch of Shinigami, saved another of the 5 threats from getting turned into a pretzel, help keep Aizen on lockdown and took out a Schutzstaffel member.

[@joaquincortescasas8114]

Mayuri even had tech to heal Yama's arm, showcased in the soul society arc. It was just the arrogance and pride of Yama that lead towards his death, refusing the help from Orihime's flawless healing and even Mayuri's useful tech.

[@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013]

I don't think so - he wanted to go purge the quincy in the living world, when their leadership all already lived in soul society

[@hunterstjean119]

I was very surprised when mayrui wasn’t on the war powers list, especially after what we see him do in TYBW. He could be listed as a war power for his “countermeasures” and his “abandon for teammates lives.” These are pretty crucial in how he was able to do so well in the war

[@R-Chillz]

"Countermeasures" is an excellent reason

[@balleraddict]

But Kenpachi being a threat without proper shinigami training just shows how much he'll still be that guy no matter how much you nerf him

[@sharpshooter4529]

I think there are pretty good reasons as to why some of these characters weren't counted as a special threat... Firstly the lack of information on Ukitake is a factor.Ukitakes deal with Mihigami was certainly a core threat to the grand scheme.But we can presume Yuha wasn't aware of this. Secondly regarding Mayuri.Yuha just didn't have enough information about him and what he was capable of...His overall showing up until the TYBW where limited...Even almost dying to Uryu (i would guess this would be a reason too).Yuha made the list based off what certain characters did up until the war started.And from what he could conclude Mayuri was basically a much inferior version od Kisuke.Because Kisuke was the one that indirectly defeated Aizen with his plan. And Kyoraku is kind of the same...He was only really put in a position of leadership when Yama died.So.there was no way for Yuha to know what his successor would be like.And plus he probably didn't know what his bankai did. Regarding the last two Grimjow and the Visards...I think Yuha probably concluded they where overall too weak to matter.Consisering how he decimated Harribel.

[@miklosrolandnagy2517]

Absolutely agree, wanted to make the same point. Mayuri is a very secretive character, even us the viewers weren't aware what kind of scientific projects he worked on, and ofc we get glimpses of his genius throughout, but it would be hard to register that, compared to Ichigo and the others etc.

[@OfficialDarkSoulMusic]

Prayers that we get to see a Segunda Etapa from Grimmjow in the anime. Even if it's shoehorned in, that would be sick as hell

[@dansubi3898]

As tommo said, the main factor that unites all the special war powers is that they have an unquantifiable variable, making them seem unpredictable. Ichigo and Kenpachi didn't fully manifest their potential, Aizen can evolve with the hogyoku, Urahara has vast foresight and can calculate unforeseen scenarios, and Ichibei's knowledge knows no bounds. I think that's why Yamamoto wasn't on the list, aside from spite. As powerful as he was, he was still calculable, meaning the Vandenreich could form a plan around him - which they did, ending with his defeat. This justifies why other powerful characters - like Ukitake, Kyoraku, the Vizards - weren't on the roster either - they are extremely powerful, but they are also calculable (if you exclude Mimihagi, which the Vandenreich likely had no knowledge of).

[@outbreakperfected5704]

One thing I kinda wanna see is a spin off show chronicling what happened to the Quincy and what they did during g the 1000 years

[@JohnGlow2]

Mayuri easily. I was rewatching the animated arc in dub, and his dub voice actor does a VERY good job displaying Mayuri’s disgust at the head captain’s negligence throughout the course of both Cours. Overlooking his desire to surpass Kisuke was a critical oversight on Yhwach’s point. He saved the Vizards, worked in tandem with Kisuke to propel Ichigo up to the royal realm, he saved both Toshiro AND Zaraki, two captains who would become top tier later in the war. He figured out a way to stop Bambi and Gigi in their tracks, and saved Ikkaku and Yumichika as well. He managed to take down the left arm of the soul king, at the cost of Nemu, but in turn has the means to make a new and improved Nemu in the future. He has absolutely stepped from under Kisuke’s shadow. Any smart villain would seek to neutralize him first going forward.

[@brotherj7328]

Not an email, just fax my friend.

[@culifabrizio1479]

What? Yamamoto didnt do anything bad in TYWB for Mayuri to be disgusted

[@tmd-w1552]

​@@culifabrizio1479he made them weak

[@kronosleblu888]

​@culifabrizio1479 I think he also meant shunsui. If you notice when mayuri called shunsui he already knew shunsui was just sipping tea and talking to jugram or whoever he was supposed to fight. The previous captain commander would be out there fighting at that stage of the war.

[@luis41397]

@@kronosleblu888 I get Mayuri's point, but Shunsui recognized that Jugram was the biggest or 2nd biggest (after Gremmy) threat and made sure to be the one to confront him. Which makes most sense for Shunsui to go after the strongest threat at the time

[@SleepyKurisu]

God I really hope grimmjow gets more to do in this arc, just one full fight for him is all I'm asking for

[@tbagged1cod283]

Chad for sure. He could never lose

[@moopi0]

Of course, I mean I couldn't even imagine it

[@bac635]

This is simple. Kenpachi is in the list, so that saves Unohana a spot. Urahara is in the list, that saves Mayuri a spot.

[@RenyxGhoul]

Ichigo and Kenpachi saves Yamamoto's spot

[@binitanogal7767]

Nah

[@Nessafiction]

I believe Yachiru (Retsu) Unohana would have been a great pick. Mainly for her bloodthirst, sword style knowledge, and ability to damn near resurrect people non-stop. She was part of the original 13 Court Guard Squads and was seen as a mentor to a lot of people. She could also be a little muddy in how soft she potentially was but I feel like someone with healing ability to that degree should be seen as a threat due to how they can keep the battle going longer and longer.

[@tiacool7978]

I don't know, she gets immediately sidelined to bring forth Zaraki's true power. So it'd be pointless to add her. Not to mention, I think a couple of characters got her beat on "healing." And seeing as she didn't seem to join any fights. They likely concluded she'd remain as just the healer until Soul Society was completely destroyed.

[@manuelacosta9463]

It's probably for the best the list was kept limited. Yhwach must've known that 'yes' was not always going to be the answer.

[@cameraredeye3115]

It's still pretty dumb to sleep on Mayuri. You give him ANY prep time, and he will kick your ass. It doesn't matter who you are.

[@amateur-madman3047]

@@cameraredeye3115That would make Mayuri the greatest potential in the series. Which is not facts.

[@redpandasarecool3]

@@cameraredeye3115 thats kisukes thing, if he was to be on that it would be for his ability to think on the fly

[@GetsugaGoon]

Grimmjow was definitely a threat, but his feats in the arc were not all that impressive, sadly. Seeing as how Grimmjow is seemingly able to partially enter his resurreccion without calling Pantera (his blackened clawed hand), I have a theory that Kubo may have been planning on perhaps showing that Grimmjow reached a second release, given how Shinigami who have achieved Bankai can activate their Shikai without calling upon their Zanpakuto. Of course, Kubo would've ultimately changed his mind if that was the case, as later on we are shown nothing of the sort. It would be truly epic if we get to see a second release Grimmjow in the TYBW anime, though. I, for one, will scream.

[@NeverAfraid7]

I mean if ulquiorra can have a second resurreccion then why not

[@RenyxGhoul]

I think if all Espadas were alive, Starkk, Ulquiorra and Grimmjow would have been the war potentials

[@THEwridacule]

Even as a die hard Kenpachi fan, i have to admit that Mayuri is the most dangerous man in all of bleach

[@cian239]

Aizen and Ichibei are way more dangerous, also you’re forgetting Lille, Gerard and Askin also. Gin too

[@skreyao4898]

​​@@cian239Power≠Danger.. Those people you mentioned has their actions a lot more restricted than what they can do.. While Mayuri has no shts about anything, mayuri is one mf who constantly pushes the boundaries..and he'll certainly do unspeakable deed like it's just normal breathing to him as long as it bring results that satisfy him. Hence why Urahara wasn't just put as 5 war potential because of his intelligence alone.. nope. he was put because he's also more than willing to do dirty deeds that can offset the odds of Yhwach's winning chance.. Urahara is willing to sacrifice people in order to win the war, just remember what Hiyori talked about him. and in fact. Both Urahara and Mayuri even has the same creepy line.. "It's all for the sake of seretei" these mf's are the real dangers without talking about sheer power.

[@cian239]

@@skreyao4898 you dont think Lille and Gerard who are complete zealots to Yhwach and were destroying everything in their path to win aren’t dangerous, i think that is worthy enough to be called dangerous. Ichibei is urahara’s shadiness cranked up to a million lol he’d happily let the soul society burn during the first invasion if it meant keeping the balance in the royal realm. I mean the man betrayed and mutialtated the God of the shinigami and doesn’t care at all, so he’s also damgerous. He also knows the names and powers of every shinigami and can basically disable them like its nothing if he feels like, that’s creepy. Aizen i feel like is obviously, he’d do anything to further his goals. Not downplaying my guy Mayuri, but i’d say those character above are the bigger monsters

[@sasagrcevic475]

@@cian239 But they are already considered war threats. Discussion here is about potential 6th member of the list ffs. Why even mentioned Lille, Askin and Gerard???? They are Quincy. And Mayuri is very dangerous. He is resourceful and unpredictable. Dude is Batman of Bleach universe.

[@cian239]

@@sasagrcevic475 because he mentioned most dangerous men in bleach not just war threats

[@go_757]

I think that Unohana should be there. She's the antithesis of both Yamamoto and Zaraki: she's the same beast that she was 1000 years ago, and she's actually unstoppable in battle. She should be there for her "bloodlust"

[@Villainarc_Leo]

She isnt on the list bc shes dead

[@go_757]

@@Villainarc_Leo was she dead by the beginning of the war? If that was a reason, Yamamoto shouldn't be there either.

[@Villainarc_Leo]

@@go_757 Yama is dead too but Yhwach himself said he wouldve been a war potential if he didnt become soft so Yama aint a war potential but couldve been

[@go_757]

@@Villainarc_Leo but your reasoning was around their life status. That doesn't matter at all. My point was, Unohana deserved a spot in this alternative list because she was FAR better suited than Zaraki. She could fight and heal, the BEST healer. Could she destroy a meteorite? Probably not. But would she be humiliated by Pernida? Absolutely not too.

[@Witch_King_Ken]

​@@go_757And don't forget about unohana's kido prowess. She was a master and could cast multiple high level kido back to back like it was nothing. Unohana should have been the combat instructor for the shinigami like quilge was for the sternritter.

[@SatoshiSosuke]

Huh, I never considered that when you pointed out that argument for Grimmjow. Every time he shows up in a battle, a Quincy dies lol. What a crazy boi lol

[@dkvitaleme]

The uncrowded potential is definitely Mayuri Kurotsuchi. Cour 3 and 4 will prove that. Grimmjow and Captain Commander did bring a lot of value each aiding in battles against the waffle gang, but Mayuris interventions calculated how the Wanderich invaded and how to remove that ability for the war.

[@awaisahmed9418]

The new Head Captain is a unpredictable variable. He is different to his former Head Captain who brings new methods and tactics. Shunsei defo a 6th war potential.

[@kickinnflickin1646]

yeah shunsei seems like hes the type that will “go for broke” to get rid of his enemy if need be…and pull out all stops…thats why I like his character

[@undeade.t7044]

I think he should have viewed tsukashima a war potential because of book of the end and i also think that he should have know about his still sliver weakness and he should have been aware of Ryukens existance as the last pure blood quincy on earth and saw him as a threat and eliminated him and the corpse of kanae katagiri

[@ปลาทองอยู่ในน้ํา]

Tsukishima, if Yhwach have ever met him before, I'm sure he would create mental damage that change quincies to be on his side (since most of them don't have strong enough will except likes of Jugram, and a few), imagine he perfectly control Gremmy. And don't forget his BotE is literally "The Almighty Killer", "The Balance Breaker", and possible "The Antithesis counter (since he can insert himself before antithesis could activate to alter the outcome)", all of these makes Yhwach considered him to be 6th war potential if he has ever met him.

[@windhelmguard5295]

another important aspect is that book of the end hard counters the allmighty. since any alteration to the past book of the end makes echoes through all possible futures, the almighty can not undo them.

[@0eyes]

Most Sternritter could dispatch him

[@joaquincortescasas8114]

Book of the End might be top 5 most overpowered abilities in all of Bleach. Yhwach can see and change the present's possible futures, while Tsukishima can see and change the past, affecting the present. Not even Orihime can do that, and her hax already makes her one of the most OP characters in Bleach, surpassing Yamamoto in a fight against Yhwach. Since Orihime can only reject past events, not creating or modifying them.

[@jamesw2831]

I want to vote Kyoraku for his tactical prowress because the moves he made...made him unpopular with the squad, but he was able to keep their morale high and delegate. But realistically, Old Man Mayuri (now that I know he's damn old) probably takes this.

[@aimannorzahariwod]

shunsui is older than mayuri

[@realistchristian]

Mayruri would make the most sense.

[@kylerjones5001]

I fully agree with your picks especially the new head captain and the vizards and Grimmjow the Quincy really underestimated all the others which if they hadn’t then the outcome would have probably been different

[@XevnPlays]

I wish they make a CFYOW anime one day, it really shows how much Zaraki grow from tybw to cfyow. Probably the biggest spike in power in a short period.

[@CaptainKotetsu]

So, what is the limit of Tsukishima’s power after he passed into the soul society? When he was alive, it was implied that his power only affected memories. However, fixing Ichigo’s sword was proof that his ability could in fact influence physical matter, at least in the soul society. Makes you wonder what kind of other stuff he’s capable of. Could he cut someone and make it so they had a child in the past, basically creating a new life? Who knows…..

[@Zikari8]

He could already affect physical matter when he was alive, as shown when he set traps in the past during his fight with Byakuya.

[@CaptainKotetsu]

@@Zikari8 Ah, true. Still, I wonder what his limits of physical matter are.

[@deluxe1075]

His power is not to alter memories directly. His power is to insert himself into the past of people or objects (like a bookmark) that's how he changes the past...

[@DoesntMatter23]

The reason why it can’t be Mayuri is that Nemu is the key to bringing out the full potential of a lot of his shenanigans. She’s had a key role in nearly every battle he’s been in. /s

[@cian239]

Mayuri would be so triggered if heard this haha

[@SterlingTres]

Nemu is his creation just like his other devices and tools, so I would argue that still counts as him winning fights with his own genius

[@SaihoAGoGo]

@@SterlingTres Yeah she might as well be an android or something seeing as how she was not created normally like the others were.

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

Nemu is basically an artificial being created by Mayuri. Like a very advanced android in flesh.

[@narem1092]

Yeah, think of Nemu as his weapon, like a Zanpaktou and it's master. A very intelligent weapon.

[@flamefyr]

I'd be curious on your thoughts on who could potentially be the next Kenpachi if anything ever happened to Zaraki. He's too cool and loved of a character for that to ever happen but it is fun to speculate!

[@emerspoon]

The only other person I could see is Ichigo

[@mainboysmusic6985]

I believe Orihime would've been a really good major war power because of the fact that she can reverse the state of seemingly anything within her Sōten Kisshun barrier. Healers are often a priority in magical battle because of how quick they can send back an adversary previously defeated to the battlefield. Somebody with powerful and fast healing abilities such as Unohana is quite the threat, but Orihime goes above and beyond that as she doesn't heal, but reverses the targets state. No matter how deep the wound is, she can restore it - even bringing the dead back to life. Among each character, Orihime, Maryuri, and Ukitake should've been the top 3 individuals that the Quincy should've aimed to killed before they started the war. They didn't know about Ukitake's secret, so that's understandable, plus him and Mayuri are pretty heavily guarded within the Gotei 13, and are powerful themselves. Orihime however, is extremely vulnerable and should've been a MUST for them to kill before the Quincy showed themselves. Just imagine when they did get rid of the actual war powers, Orihime comes in and brings them back. She is too dangerous.

[@cameraredeye3115]

There's one major flaw with your argument: yes, Orihime's power is incredible, but both she and her Shunshun Rikka are the definition of glass cannons. If they get taken by surprise, or if the enemy is strong enough to overpower them, they're instantly done for. Tesla, Nnoitora's henchman, made that fact crystal clear already, as did Yhwach when he stopped toying around with Ichigo and Orihime. Hell, even Yammy proved as much when he didn't take even a scratch from Koten Zanshun, and the part of her Rikka that made that attack was critically injured. Do not forget that Orihime is a weak human at the end of the day. She isn't a Soul Reaper, or a Quincy, or even a Fullbring. Just a weak ass human who has virtually no reiatsu whatsoever. A mere Soldat footsoldier is enough to kill her off completely, never mind a Sternritter.

[@mainboysmusic6985]

​@@cameraredeye3115 I know, I also mentioned that in my post about her being very weak, or vulnerable in my case. But that's not the point, and neither did I talk about her offensive abilities because they're no where near viable enough. What matters is Sōten Kisshun. Orihime should stay away from the front lines and be left on standby to heal and potentially revive those who have fallen, especially the most needed allies; she is support. What you told me is how her offense and defense are weak, but that's not what I talked about at all in my post. Her supportive healing ability is what matters here and is what makes her so dangerous, and that's the prime reason I believe she should be a war power.

[@metchynorth5806]

I’m sure she’s why Aizen said no thank you he knew it was pointless.

[@natrell.awsome4711]

@@cameraredeye3115 yes, but then again the reason urahara was chosen wasn't because of his combat abilities, they didn't even know bro had a bankai, it was because of his smarts, it wouldn't be to farfetched to put inoue up here

[@WarKastel]

Wrong. The 6th Special War Power is Yachiru. When Yhwach was shown a photo how pretentiously she was sitting on a chair, he immediately noted her Special War Power.

[@Isiel42]

I think if they'd seen Mayuri's battle in Hueco Mundo, they definitely would've put Mayuri on the list.

[@cian239]

I like that Mayuri was underlooked by the Quincy as a war power. Makes it more special when my man beats Pernida

[@urameshitrev1851]

Yamamoto is the obvious answer. But if we aren't including him, Mayuri Kurotscuchi should've been one imo. Cause he's almost as intelligent as Urahara but far more of a risk taker and ruthless, and he has probably the most W's in this arc despite not being a War Potential. Hell he and Nemu defeat Pernida, a quincy who would've been very difficult to defeat for any other Shinigami at The Royal Palace, besides maybe Ichigo.

[@SamsarasArt]

Yamamoto was originally one of the threats but because he mellowed out and became peaceful, as well as losing his left arm, Yhwach deemed these changes made him much less of a threat.

[@urameshitrev1851]

@@SamsarasArt Of course, and going by how strong he was with just One Arm, it's no wonder Aizen took preparation in sealing his powers because Two Armed Yamamoto with his Bankai must've been terrifying.

[@ZeroX7649]

I don't think anyone other than Urahara could've taken down Pernida.

[@mikeparradise9333]

How is having two arms going to make his Bankai stronger tho, its not based on his physical power

[@Chip_Gardener]

Everyone agrees he was on the list even if Juha didn't put him ON the list specifically.

[@CJ23694]

It would’ve been pretty cool if Kubo gave Grimmjow a proper power up and incorporated the hollows better in a story about the Quincy. That said Mayuri Kurotsuchi is the pick

[@BigJohn303]

The high level arrancars should have done more do to being poison to quincy. It's stated by kubo in bleach klub outside the quincies could not steal ichigo's bankai do to ichigo's hollow side.

[@byakko6]

Kubo said that all the arrancar have the potential to achieve Segunda Etapa so he could have given that to Grimmjow He felt so wasted in the story given how long it took him to come back and how popular he is.

[@BigJohn303]

​@@byakko6 Maybe kubo will fix things with grimmjow in the anime ? You never know. We have gotten new stuff in the anime.

[@byakko6]

@@BigJohn303 I'm really hoping for some spotlight Of not there is always the Hell Arc remaining

[@iReiGNxx]

This is more theoretical, but if Orihime had the same killer instinct that everyone else has, she definitely would be on the list with her powers.

[@kanyewest6539]

ichigo, chad, uryu and orihime make up a standard RPG party. ichigo is dps, chad is tank, uryu is range dps and orihime is the healer. the healers and the tanks never get their due. both irl, and in bleach.

[@Force-Multiplier]

You could argue that if Gotei 13 captains all gave a hair or maybe even a finger to Orihime prior to battle she could keep restoring them from hairs periodically perpetually since her power is quite simple "the reversion of events*

[@gerdanbombales]

I agree her power is indeed broken and instantly turn a tide of a battle

[@RFDN0]

As her ability is to reject... in theory, if she was willing, she could just erase anything from existence.

[@kanyewest6539]

@@RFDN0 at the very least i think she could have some osho like feats of "now you get to go back 1000 miles in the other direction" as it is, her barrier seems like a captains danku. and she is the best healer in the verse. i think thats pretty decent.

[@goochbutter1019]

Shunsui for his deception. Goes from losing to Robert to killing First transformation lille. I remember him saying his Zanpakutō doesn’t go all out unless she needs to also no one knows all his powers and move sets

[@SaturnineXTS]

Visored bankai can be stolen. Ichigo's couldn't be stolen not because he had hollow powers, but because the zanpakuto itself was not based on an Asauchi, instead Ichigo's inner hollow served as the asauchi itself. For that reason the zanpakuto itself was made out of Hollow reishi, that's why it couldn't be stolen by Quincy, to whom hollow reishi is toxic.

[@0eyes]

Ichigo only needed an arrancar to steal his bankai, as it was ripping off of him.

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@0eyes yep, though he still failed in the end

[@ArmageddonAngel]

Uryu should be on the list. After all, someone who can survive the Aushwahlen isn't someone who can be ignored. Also, he is the most likely to have a grudge against Yhwach and the Wandenreich because his mother was killed by them. It makes so much sense that Yhwach recruited him to offset thia threat.

[@Villainarc_Leo]

...Uryu is part of the quncy

[@papipepino.]

Why would someone who was there on their side be part of the war threats?

[@lisandroiribarne1141]

@@papipepino. Aizen and Ichigo were both considered for recruitment

[@The_endlessV1]

yh considered for recruitment, but they never joined so it doesnt change anything @@lisandroiribarne1141

[@papipepino.]

@@lisandroiribarne1141 ok but did they join? Uryuu wasn’t even a threat until he got his shrift

[@blckmarvl5652]

I think YW reasoning was pretty solid actually. Yamamoto being a bloodthirsty killer that would do anything w all that power was what made him unpredictable. Losing that perspective he ended up being easy to deal with. Him not utilizing humans, hollows, fullbringers and Vizard was most def why everything was nearly destroyed w the casualty rate

[@doginababyseat5127]

Ukitake is the only person I can consider a war potential. And that is solely because he is possessed by the hand of the soul king. If he weren’t sick and using the hand’s power to keep himself alive, he would be a beast able to use that power in battle.

[@RenyxGhoul]

He was also one of 3 with 2 Zanpakuto

[@TheBigExclusive]

Obviously the 6th War Potential would have been Commander Yamamoto with both arms. Urahara did say that Shinigami release their energy through their wrists. So Yama was stuck at 50% power the whole time.

[@gammafrost]

You don’t get it. It wasn’t his arm that killed him. Yes he was weaker but his mindset in the present is why ywach didn’t deem him worthy. Because of pride, he didn’t ask Orihime to heal him or request ichigo’s help in stopping Aizen.

[@QrowxClover]

Wrong on both accounts. Yama wasn't strong enough to pose a significant threat, especially because Yhwach himself planned to kill him at the start. The wrist vents release Reiatsu so the Shinigami don't burn up from the inside. They aren't related to the actual usage of power.

[@sacredgear]

@@QrowxCloverYama was strong enough to be a threat. If he wasn’t then Yhawach wouldn’t haven’t sent in Royd to fight him first. Yama was weaker in the sense because in the past he was willing to win without care of the cost. Yama easily could have annihilated the entire Quincy army with his bankai if he didn’t care about friendly causalities. But that caring about his allies now is the “weakness” Yhawach was talking about, because the Quincy are just tools to him.

[@QrowxClover]

@@sacredgear Reread that. Royd was sent so Yhwach could talk to Aizen uninterrupted. The claim that it was to weaken Yama is a lie. Yama couldn't even annihilate the body of an upper mid tier Sternritter. Yhwach had to kill him. Most of the Elites have very plausible wincons against him, and Uryu+ he just outright can't beat. Yama could wipe out the Sternritter that were never important in the first place. All of the other War Potentials could do something to drastically change how the war played out. Ichibei could've killed Yhwach himself, Ichigo could've grown to be stronger than Yhwach and take him down, Urahara, Kenpachi, and Aizen could've taken down Elites. Urahara and Aizen specifically could kill multiple in one go. Yama wouldn't be able to do anything on par with this.

[@akcland5349]

⁠@@QrowxCloverYou’re right on wrist thing. Yama without Bankai isn’t much of a threat if any to YHWACH even without the Almighty. With it I’d argue he’s a serious threat to every Quincy except the top 3-4, but even that’s debatable given that we really don’t know how far some of their powers extend. Obviously Ichibe, Aizen, Ichigo, and YHWACH are clearly above him, the rest it kinda depends on what more we learn, because I’d place most at 50/50 or indeterminate.

[@manuelpavanello90]

Very torn, but Mayuri > Shinsui as a 6th War Potential. Mayuri is a weaker version of Urahara as combat prowess (the latter one is stronger from the start, whereas Mayuri depends more on preparation time). It has also saved the lives of many captains, including himself, so he has preserved a lot of the offensive power of Gotei 13. Being a scientist + have preparation time = unquantifiable threat ==> "6th" Special War Threat. This war underlines that intel is key, so Mayuri is the MVP here because it carries half of Gotei 13 through this war. Shunsui is a very good leader, he made correct choices all around, he has a lot of hax behind his techniques and is an all-around fighter as well as leader. I don't think it has done more (or better) than Mayuri to deserve an higher spot, though. A good 7th Special War Threat, but Mayuri is a step above him in my opinion.

[@akcland5349]

Yama and Mayuri are the ones I think fit, Shunsui and Ukitake could’ve been if we’d seen them do more.

[@cian239]

Yama, Mayuri, maybe Tsukishima or Orihime for their OP support abilities. With all respect to Shunsui, he’s a pretty standard Shinigami in terms of reiatsu and experience but with a insanely powerful zanpakuto

[@theogstella]

​@@cian239hol up standard shinigami in terms of reitsu??, his reitsu filled a whole city, even nobles like yourichi and byakuya don't have that much reitsu output from miles away, he is one of the oldest shinigami's his experience level is above many characters

[@cian239]

@@theogstella standard compared to the war powers i mean, maybe not Kisuke but he has the intelligence. Shunsui isnt one of the oldest btw he’s looks about middle age? Experience is fair he’s been around but i’d say royal guard, yama and even Chojiro have him beat here. Great zanpakuto and one of the best tacticians, if not the best, in bleach for thinking outside the box

[@silversoulken]

@@cian239 Ukitake and Shunsui were Yamamoto’s first ever graduates from his school. Shunsui IS old.

[@cian239]

@@silversoulken we don’t know when the academy was founded i’d say shunsui is in the 600-800 age range

[@Malkiore1]

I dunno about this one Mr.Tommo. I mean when you look at the Hollow's which are my favorite characters and how being a poison dagger they could be in the back of the Quincy. I think either we are missing the obvious or Kubo is just not making much sense here. I mean Hollow reiatsu is deadly and sure we can say Visords and Grimmjow should be a venom like foe but if this was the case then one would think invading Hueco Mundo was a death wish with the entire place made up of Hollow reiatsu and Hollow's, Espada, Vasto Lords running around and fighting back. However we know the Quincy just steam rolled right over them. So as I have said, it must be something we are missing or Kubo just is making a mistake here. I never understood how Hollow reiatsu was said to be like a poison to them but walking into the viper pit of Hueco Mundo was just easy to them. I mean it was to be taken first which ment the Quincy could afford losses before attacking the Soul Society. I think Kubo should explain this in more detail and give us some answers but I am sure it will take years before we get an answer.

[@archsage121]

Unohana should have been one. She's the only Captain apart from Yamamoto to have been from the original war, as well as being the key to unlocking Kenpachi Zaraki's true strength

[@huntertezz]

But she did nothing to help asside from dying. Also I doubt she was powerful enough to be a propper threat.

[@utetennisfan5458]

Agreed. If she had been willing to fight AND heal instead of just one or the other, she would have been a true threat.

[@shanemiller1182]

@@huntertezz”I doubt she was powerful enough” ?????

[@huntertezz]

@@shanemiller1182 yeah. She doesn't have an big hax and full power base Zaraki was shown to be stronger. I think the Schutzstaffel could have handled her.

[@silentkiller-xw3hx]

​@@huntertezz Zaraki in Base mode and Shikai are not stronger than her, but the non-elite Sterniter defeats any of them easily, because she is equal to the Supreme Leader, according to the last one-shot.

[@Pushiii736]

I think I’m the anime kubo is going to change grimjows transformation I really think we’re going to see a second resurrection cause it makes complete since how is grimjowow on the same level as ichigo if he doesn’t even have a resurrection and kubo was asked can he use a second transformation and kubo said yes so kubo does have an idea of what he’d look like and I think we’re going to see it in the TYBW anime

[@BlackLotus2077]

Orihime definitely should have been a War potential or at least someone Yhwach had his eye on

[@BigJohn303]

She doesn't have the killer instinct. She's too kind and gentle.

[@cian239]

@@BigJohn303her healing abilities alone break the universe

[@quincyquincy4764]

I was looking for this comment. Even Aizan recruited her for her busted ability.

[@RealLifeIronMan]

We have seen Orihime resurrect the dead by rejecting events. She could have resurrected anyone, including Yamamoto.

[@Ucey365]

Without even watching the video the answer is Mayuri. He’s a complete wildcard Mad Scientist! Too resourceful and not limited to the thinking of sensitive people.

[@ReliousFlareStar]

This video actually made me think about something quite interesting. In the even that the Vizards attempted to poison the Sternritter with Hollow reiatsu, is it possible for Askin to consume a bit of it and then render the Quincy immune to it by vastly increasing the lethal dosage?

[@prophetofbara1214]

yes, Askin can gain immunity to Hollow Reiatsu

[@cameraredeye3115]

Yes, and that's why he's one of those dudes that you HAVE to kill with one attack; otherwise he becomes immune to whatever you tried to kill him with and you can no longer use it against him. Hence why Grimmjow went straight for the heart with the first strike.

[@sergeantassassin3425]

Mayuri hard-carried the Gotei 13. He definitely deserves the War Power tag for Ingenuity.

[@lou98t]

Definitely Mayuri. Uryu could've also been 1 if Yhwach viewed him as a potential enemy

[@TruthHunter635]

There should have been 7 special war powers with mayuri and tsukishima as the extra ones.

[@zerobarge718]

A very obvious one that you left out I think, would be Yoruichi. Her Zanpakuto for starters, is a mystery. She's also so powerful that she punches and kicks people when others have to use some kind of weapon. She also embodies that chaos that you were talking about in reference to Grimmjow, but better. I do, however, mostly agree with you putting him on your list. He was definitely my favorite surprise in that arc. My nonobvious answer would be Rukia. The reason being that she seemingly won't die or seems to be "unkillable" to put it in a way that Yhwach probably would. Every time somebody thinks she's dead or lost, she wins. She in the same stream of thought, manages to surprise you. She was also one of the earliest characters to one shot an Arrancar. I also don't believe she killed As Nodt just by simply freezing him. I feel as though she destroyed his soul in the process.

[@jlogan2228]

While shunsui is an immensely powerful and capable character it will always be mayuri due to his insane ability to counter anything given enough information

[@TauonTu]

My guess as to why the Vizard's bankai's COULD have been stolen is due to their Shinigami and Hollow powers being distinctly separate, and thus their hollow reiatsu isn't actually apart of their shinigami reiatsu or bankai. On the other hand, Ichigo's shinigami and hollow powers are effectively the same thing, and thus trying to steal his bankai is equated to trying to steal a hollows power inherently. That still doesn't explain why the Vizard's didn't use their hollow powers regardless, but it at least explains their bankais.

[@CitroChannel]

I think Tsukishima, Orihime, and Ginjo would also be solid choices. The first two because their Fullbrings can direct counter The Almighty to some degree and Ginjo because we learn that he's similar to Ichigo in CFYOW and would have been a SK candidate. Though I agree that Mayuri in particular proved that he should have been on the list and I really would have liked the idea of the Visored and Grimmjow getting recognition like that too.

[@chrislewis7006]

In my opinion kisuke could do anything mayuri could but mayuri could only do most of what kisuke could. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s why I don’t think mayuri is a war power even tho he hard carried a lot of the war.

[@lo4tr]

Mayuri didn't really do shit when it came to Yhwach's personal goals, though. I take the War Powers being the individuals that are threats to Yhwach, not necessarily the Vandenreich. So, Kisuke is there because he is entirely unpredictable in what he does whereas Mayuri is more straightforward as a scientist. While Mayuri does a lot to upend the Vandenreich, he doesn't have the same ability to really get in Yhwach's way. Kisuke, on the other hand, can do a lot behind the scenes that even Yhwach himself can't plan for and most of those plans will already be in motion by the time he gets access to the Almighty again, meaning he can't 'see' them coming. That's why Kenpachi is there, because the Quincies don't have accurate data on how powerful he actually is. Hell, even Kenpachi doesn't know how powerful he is thanks to only recently awakening his Zapakuto. Ichigo is there for a similar reason. His mixed heritage makes him a complete wild card amongst the rest, with the potential of his power being pretty much beyond anybody's comprehension. Aizen and Ichibei are both there because they are the only ones with the direct strength to challenge Yhwach. Even Yamamoto, whom is directly more powerful than any of the other War Potentials, isn't enough to challenge Yhwach and his powers are figured out too much to be some potential threat down the line.

[@gammafrost]

@@lo4trperfect breakdown

[@flameheadshero]

18:52 “He only shows up every now and then but when he does, it’s often FATAL” That’s gotta be intentional considering who he ends up killing lol

[@mr.verybat6951]

My vote would have to go to Byakuya. I haven't seen many comments yet mentioning his name, which is partially why I think he should be on the list. His sheer determination to never quit and ability to keep reinventing himself time and time again are dangerous for starters. Besides this he is wise and has a calm, collected way of thinking. His cunning and elegant fighting style allow him to make perfect use of his broad skillset. To me he's like that one mosquito in your room, annoying, distracting, and every now and then it will land and sting. Just enough off the radar and perfectly capable to ruin the enemies operation.

[@alexprince9035]

He was supposed to be killed. The only reason he’s alive is because these stupid byakuya fan boys were sending death threats to kubo

[@rmeddy]

Yeah Mayuri for sure, incredibly clutch straight up MVP menace behavior. Black sandle energy If anything I might add Oetsu, maybe for "Intimate knowledge of Zanpaktou" or something like that, he allowed Ichigo to unlock his potential, he knew exactly what to show and where to send him and yeah he kinda overlaps with Ichibei and Urahara but he could've been a factor in sorting out the bankai stealing situation and then the anime framed as a kind of a de facto leader of the Zero Squad. Also Unohana is a big maybe as well, much like with Ukitake , Yhwach may not know the history of her true nature, although he should've imo because she was there 1000 years ago, tearing up Quincies. To me head medics should always be a high priority anyway.

[@klass-janlavine3023]

How about byakuya?

[@ehrerik3786]

Tsukishima could have been an interesting pick too, ig Ywach didn't even knew of Tsukishima's existence but fixing something the almighty broke is pretty unaccounted for.

[@TuberoseKisser]

I think another credit to Grim is that he could handle himself against Ichigo, yes maybe not in tybw terms but he did give ichigo the go around and does clearly think he's capable of fighting him again, i really want to see where Grims power level is at compared to ichigo in the tybw arc.

[@simpgod2170]

He was losing to aksin even in his resurrection form and he couldn't even force hikone base form to get serious. If anything ichigo would win without bankai

[@YakobNugget]

Isn't it said somewhere that grimmjow stands roughly on equal footing with Nel and Hallibel in TYBW or is that someone's headcanon I read

[@BigJohn303]

​@simpgod2170 He never fought askin in ressureccion.

[@BigJohn303]

​@YakobNugget it's iffy whether or not the CFYOW novels are canon. Yes kubo had some involvement but he never outright stated they were canon.

[@YakobNugget]

@BigJohn303 oh I haven't read cfyow but if I'm not mistaken didn't kubo say he considered it canon on his qna site?

[@derekrichardson7853]

Yoruichi and/or another royal family member with abilities and/or knowledge Yuha deems dangerous seems like a decent 6th war potential. Ryuken and knowing secrets of Quincy (like the silver) could be another war potential. Mayuri doing Mayuri things. Shunsui because of his battle strategies. Maybe an unknown super powerful hollow somewhere in hueco mundo. Wish I could say Grimmjow, but he didn’t show anything too impressive with his return other than an awesome outfit. But hopefully they make Grimmjow way stronger in the anime and give him a segunda etapa.

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Honestly, most people say it'd be Mayuri but I wished it was Toshiro. I really didn't understand why he wasn't allowed to train with Ichigo and the others in Reiōkyū. It would have been more than promising. He also reverted back to his roots like Ichigo. This was the opportunity to utilize this character. Hitsugaya was the praised prodigy of the Gotei 13.

[@gammafrost]

If I could pick any 3 to join the group that got royal training, it would have been toshiro, kenpachi, and Ikkaku. Ikkaku because he is a seated officer and already awakened by Bankai.

[@haschwell2757]

I can already see it. Mayuri for his "unethical approach". There are no boundaries the man is not willing to cross.

[@cian239]

Yup. Even tho Kisuke is smarter, he still has morals which Mayuri lacks

[@corruptangel6793]

I like how Ichibe got more reasoning behind hus wisdom potential in the anime. Not only was he preparing Ichigo, not only is it confirmed that he lured Yhwach and the Schutzstaffel to the Soul Palace to eradicate them (possibly their way of aiding the Gotei 13) but he is also the one who sealed away the Almighty. Making his wisdom the main reason Yhwach lost the first war. Also, Yamamoto wasn't turned down from the position out of spite due to weakness. It was because he was no longer an unknown. Originally, Yamamoto was someone who used anyone and anything to kill his enemy. How do you plan for someone who is so powerful AND that ruthless? You can't, they have no weakness to exploit. But current Yamamoto has gone soft, and that left him vulnerable. Yhwach could now make plans to deal with him. Which is exactly how he lost. Yamamoto is proof that power level has nothing to do with being a war potential. The closest you get is Zaraki, but even then, it's the unknown factor, having no idea how strong he is, that made him a war potential. Mayuri isn't an unknown. His merits don't matter. The fights with the Schutzstaffel prove why Urahara was chosen and not Mayuri. Mayuri was in a desperate state, and nothing he did worked. Ultimately, he had to he saved by Nemu having a spontaneous evolution and acting independently to survive. Urahara meanwhile was in control from start to end. The fight was over before it even began. Askin never had a chance. In fact, Pernida could he argued as showing how a fight between Mayuri and Urahara would go down. Shunsui's strategies are more common sense than anything incalculable. Obviously youd train Zaraki. Obviously, you'd try and ally with Aizen when desperate enough. Once again, it's not an unknown. I agree with you about Ukitake. Interestingly, I don't think the Vizards are immune to Bankai theft like Ichigo. They aren't perfect hybrids. It's unlikely that their Zanpakuto spirits are hollows like Zangetsu. In fact, I think that was confirmed by Kubo, but I can't remember for certain. I'd argue Halibel would be the bigger war potential because of her infinite combat potential. Her rez state would be particularly nasty against Quincy. Which would further explain why Yhwach delt with her personally.

[@wakamoon1910]

I don't think there's much debate to be made here, based on how the other war potentials performed and that the bankai stealing was a big deal in helping determine the list hence why yamamoto got rejected, then it can only be mayuri. man not only took out multiple sternritter, he actually won his fights without the usage of his bankai, bonus points as well on pretty much saving the lives of other captains and shinigami in the same way urahara's contribution in the war was preventing others from dying by giving back their bankai rather than he himself taking out threats. btw I think an interesting video you could make is on how much the war might have turned out if urahara didn't develop the hollow pills to return bankai. keep in mind that while not having bankai would severely disadvantage shinigami on top of giving them to the quincy, there's some points to consider: 1. there's bankais with drawbacks and risks. komamura's bankai will reflect damage to the user, mayuri's spews poison that is based on his blood so only him and nemu aren't affected, kyouraku's affects the main user too, shinji's affect allies too, kenpachi himself couldn't handle his, etc. 2. no volstandig usable, sternritters can't access the full power of their schrifts on top of not having an emergency save/escape on them. ex. as nodt wouldn't be able to break out of rukia's shikai, bambietta would't be able to easily blow away shinji(who might eventually have used his mask to take her out), cang du and bg9 saved themselves with volstandig though technically that's due to the enemies bankai nearly doing them in, also brings question how much would ywhach's royal guard be effective without their volstandig. 3. a number of shinigami have improved themselves to fight without bankai on top of some them probably being more careful. byakuya's shikain has shown he can defeat as nodt in volstandig on top of downing 2 sternritters, rukia and renji were already moping the floor with just their shikai, soifon and toshiro were just in a really bad matchup, komamura might not have as much damage but he'd still be immune to damage. kensei and rose might have also lasted longer if they didn't get overconfident in being able to use bankai. 4. just speculation to make it a bit more even, lets also assume that when they are in volstandig that means they can't steal bankai anymore or that they can't just choose to use volstandig over bankai if they stole one. basically lets say if the sternritter are impatient or in a desperate position to go volstandig then they can't take a bankai at that point, so like mask, gerard, askin, lile, etc. wouldn't be able to take bankais they were facing since they are using volstandig.

[@wakamoon1910]

forgot to also add that even with the restored bankai, how much were the captains that got stolen actually helpful throughout the war? soifon did practically nothing past "beating" bg9 who was gonna recover, toshiro admittedly might have kept gerard at bay if byakuya didn't shatter him, on that note byakuya was already very strong with his shikai after the royal palace buff and actually might not have shattered gerard if he hadn't had bankai, komamura might still be able to clap bambi or shinji would have but at best he might have just downed another sternritter or done nothing against ywach before being useless for the rest of the war.

[@PDro11]

Mayuri had one actual fight vs Pernida. He needed his bankai and Nemu. Nemu really won him that fight cause his bankai did not stop Pernida. He himself lost his legs in the process. Again Giselle it was the revived captains that beat the zombie army but he did not kill her himself. His countermeasures were specific to minor scenarios. Urahara restoring and hollowfying bankais turned the tables of the war entirely up until Ywach made it to the royal realm. It evened the playing field when the shinigami were being slaughtered left and right. I don't see how you managed to overlook that. Had they not got back the ability to use their Trump card, the shingami would have effectively been ended. Urahara also was the first to act in this war when SS was still getting their bearings. Urahara took Ichigo and invaded HM starting the first analysis in the story for bankai medalizing. There's literally no comparison on the impact Urahara had vs. Mayuri. Urahara also created multiple paths to the royal realm and sent contingency forces. He's by far and large the superior strategist and only Aizen matches him there. Shunshi was literally making the tough calls in this war after Yama died. It was largely his decision making nd leadership that lead to the G13 surviving. Mayuri had an impact overall and deserved an honorable mention, but going by the story, defeating Pernida was his crowning moment. Beyond that, he really didn't do much to give the shinigami a fighting chance. Thr zombies are really not a big addition because that was a focused battle with specific people. By this point in the story, Rukia, Renji and Byakua post reio training were clearing house on much more powerful Sternritter and Ichigo was beasting through the battlefield trying to get back to the royal realm. Alot was going on at different points that didn't require Mayuris assistance nor his zombies.

[@jayson2916]

Mayuri, he did even more than all of the war powers. Under normal circumstances it would be Yamamoto, but he lost his arm and he wasnt the same guy from before. Kyoraku is another choice, he made incredible decisions which helped tilt the landscape somewhat.

[@lukasbaral5108]

In order of what I think the ranking would have been if the list had continued, discounting uryu who yhwach has effectively neutralized as a threat (for the most part) by naming him successor: Yamamoto, the unofficial war potential BECAUSE YHWACH FLAT OUT STATED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIM "FIREPOWER" The rest of these are gonna be diffcult to even consider because they don't really fit the bill as combat powers so to speak: Ryuken ishida for being the descendent of the one guy who could have had insider info on him "HISTORY" If yhwach knew ukitake had the mimihagi, he would land a spot here "TRUMP CARD" Mayuri "the inferior kisuke but somehow still better than kisuke" kurotsuchi "TECHNOLOGY" The possible 0 division placements most likely of which is Oetsu "ARMAMENTS" Shunsui Kyoraku "LEADERSHIP" no explanation needed I MISSED THE TRUE GOAT who the quincies luckily dispatched early CHOJIRO "HOLY S**T I'm SO GLAD WE DONT GOTTA DEAL WITH HIM AGAIN" SASAKIBE "SNEK"

[@cian239]

Chojiro got done so dirty man, he basically was an original gotei member, easily the strongest lieutenant in SS and had a secret captain-level lightning bankai. He def could take down many sternirtters, i’d say like 75% hot take- Chojiro might be stronger than post RG training rukia/renji. Dont have anything solid to go by, but he was able to fight alongside the original gotei and we know they were apparently OP. His bankai was also strong enough to pierce yhwach without almighty and injury him, i just dont see renji and rukia doing this with their bankais but just my opinion

[@nothereforit.605]

I wouldn’t list Mayuri on it for his intellect. I think the same reason to list him others might look at it as a reason not too. That’s his madness to interact with that he finds interesting or worthy of tinkering with. There could be two ultra strong gods in front of him and he might just ignore them and go after one of the weak servants if they had a peculiar power that he likes.

[@andyzhang7890]

Honestly Orihime, considering she had a surprisingly good counter to Yhwach’s Almighty 🤔🤔

[@skyreapery2n164]

My college roomate Tsukishima deserved a mention.... His power is wild... I call him Tsuki-dono

[@pr9058]

I can think of few reasons why those mentioned would not be consider for the list. With Grimjow and Vizards I think it's their lack of strength by their own - they are not on the power level to hurt Sternritters in face to face fight so their only chance is getting suprise attack in which without someone else working with them. Putting them on a threat list would be similar to saying don't let yourself get distracted while fighting 2-3 captains which I think is a little low level for something called Special War Power list. With Ukitake I can agree Yhwach probably wasn't aware of him becoming host as that happens before he joined Gotei so probably outside Quincy survivalence since if they would be paying attention to all Rukongai they may as well look also at whole living world which is way too much to keep in sight. With Kyoraku I think he got left out because he didn't express any full leader qualities to this point. Like sure he is strong and deceptive enemy in battle but he doesn't seem to focus so much in leading. Like a little underestimation of his resolution, didn't thinking that he would be so bold with his decisions once he replace Yamamoto and immidietly do things like making deal with devil/Aizen. On the other hand I have idea that Yhwach was so fully convinced that without Yamamoto shinigami would collapse that he didn't even consider who would be his replacement as captain comander and didn't designate any thoughts to how new person in that position could affect war. For Mayuri I think he was left out of comparison with Kisuke in a way that he is not as unpredicatable. Like his inventions that he was using up to this point was always something he has prepered for some time only in TYBW he really started to show similar adaptibility to Kisuke. I think a lot of his inventions to this point could be seen by Quincies as just some new dangerous drug so falling into the realms of predictability mostly.

[@BigJohn303]

Grimmjow doesn't need to be the right power level. Sonido let's the user completely slip past an enemies sensory abilities. It is ideal for surprise attacks. Combine that with the fact hollows are poison to quincies and the fact grimmjow does not care about being fair to his enemies unless you are ichigo and how merciless grimmjow is makes him HiGHLY dangerous in a war.

[@pr9058]

@@BigJohn303 Sonido is no more usefull for suprise attack then Shunpo or Hirenkyaku neither being a real challange for a Sternritter to detect. Being more merciless then some Shinigami and poison to Quincies makes him more dangerous then standard captains but only elevating him to the point of more purely strong ones like Kyoraku, Ukitake, Unohana (or Byakuya after Royal Palace training) not above them as Special War Power should be. If we bring him to list then we need to add them also as well as Mayuri, Yoruichi and possible as many Squad Zero members as Yhwach knew about and we no longer have list of special threats but just list of enemy main force.

[@bennefib]

This is hard because its clear he made the list for beings who could beat him BEFORE he claims the soul kings power for himself .

[@wolfgod6443]

Yhwach: Okay so they have the smartest man on their team (Kisuke). They may even have the second smartest too (Aizen). But surely they don't have the 3rd. "Lol", Mayuri said, "Lmao". In all seriousness there is one reason Mayuri wouldn't be on the list. He's in many ways a product of Kisuke, and that could've been factored in as what makes Kisuke so dangerous. Kisuke reigns Mayuri in and forces him to improve himself to keep up their rivalry. You could say Mayuri's greatness, and even the risk of him surpassing Kisuke, is a part of Kisuke's plan. Grimmjow is arguably in a similar boat. I think Oetsu is a decent candidate as well. He's strong enough to fight he Schutzstaffel, and the blade he uses is a perfect example of what would put him on this list. He can potentially create any weapon. It only depends on the person with the asauchi. He's technically responsible for Ichigo's return.

[@Serena_Maeve]

It’s really funny how Mayuri, THE GUY WHO’S EXPERIMENTED ON GENERATIONS OF QUINCIES isn’t listed of a special threat

[@hiddenleif6854]

Americans: "grim joww" Mr. Tommo: "grimm joeaux"

[@evand2]

Clearly Mayuri.... literally was incalculable as he wasn't seen as a threat at all and simply said "bet". Ywach has to have regretted that as Mayuri continued to tip the scales over and over again

[@dylantaylor8389]

I think the guy that openly claims to be second to ONLY kisuke BUT clearly acts with superiority in their conversations even knowing the depth of kisuke’s knowledge as Aizen did and kisuke does not ever shoot that down , and the fact Aizen considered himself secondary to kisuke in intellect yet Myuri does NOT see Aizen in this equation at all. Would and. should absolutely make sense from a third party to see myuri as a complete wild card and someone to be feared greatly. Why he wasn’t a special threat from the beginning is beyond me. He faced uryu who was arguably on the level everyone else is on currently and liquified and was ABSOLUTELY fine… if I were ywach id have an APB out on Myuri , shoot to kill, head shots only.

[@ricardomenacho4733]

Cool video, just Grimmjow doesn’t belong on the list. He’s not even the strongest espada left, let alone would never make the list since he’s a hollow and this is a Quincy’s list. Even if Starkk or Barragán were alive, they wouldn’t make the list since they’re considered lower tier beings compared to Quincy.

[@DrakeBrunette]

Shunsui is the best option in my opinion… his Bankai is powerful enough to take down most any Quincy. And his leadership skills and willingness to take huge risks in order to get the win makes him extremely dangerous. He was playing Chess when Yhwach was playing Checkers.

[@macandcheeseofficial]

I feel like Grimjow could be a war potential for just being such an unpredictable & strong rogue warrior. If the arc was longer he could’ve been a Ghost of Tsushima type character that could beat a sternritter & company and vanish.

[@CPTZK11]

Mayuri CERTAINLY was a miss. He was the overwhelming MVP. Involved in like 50% of all battles someway😊

[@godjames2905]

It would have to go to the SELF proclaimed KING , of Hueco Mundo GRIMMJOW Jaggergas👑

[@Problemsolver434]

I mean, Kenpachi did take down Gremmy. He didn't just slice the meteor. Gremmy would have been too much trouble if not for Kenpachi

[@0eyes]

Kenpachi is the only one that can take down most of the Sternritter with his base sword.

[@Mlackakao]

Mayuri for hid adaptability. Give him time, info, and resources, he can pull a win in any fight. Kisuke planned for eventualities (he’s done it already), but Mayuri plans for opportunities (when the time comes, he’s going to dissect it).

[@williewestone3769]

the one cannon fight that we know Ywach has seen Mayuri fight in would be Mayuri vs. Ishida. Not surprising he overlooked if it was just based on that.

[@nataliawineland34]

I love grimmjow so I'm always glad when he's included lol but yessss to the vizards ugh they could've done so much damage to the sternritter

[@Monkeyfuzz]

Mayuri always has a deus ex machina up his eccentric sleeve. Though I really do feel they didn't use Hollow reiatsu enough. It's possible Grimmjow was low enough ranked he wasn't considered a threat or was just unknown to them. The Vizard however should have been up there, and I guess weren't because of time constraints.

[@0eyes]

Grimmjow isn’t a shinigami