MSD Atomic Intake, Katech 103mm Throttle Body, and Flex Fuel Gets Big Gains Up Top!!! 2016 Camaro SS

[@ZZ-ed6wp]

Seems low for with a cam ??

[@kenross863]

They do a good job. I’ve taken my car there and they said it would take this long but finished sooner and did good priced well

[@josephdixon507]

That’s my old SS Camaro. Blue Velvet Metallic. I see my plate on the fuse box and my rattle can painted reservoir cover over the antifreeze tank. Still rolling the black chrome wheels. Car still great with the ZL1 hood and IKON bumper cover on it. Traded in at Hare Chevrolet in Noblesville, IN on 9/23/2019 when I ordered my C8 Corvette. Damn I miss that car!

[@juliocastillo5131]

What kind of wheels are those ??

[@Christopher.dreamless]

I want this setup. MSD Atomic, Katech, and DSX. Question; do I need the adapter plate if I get the 95MM throttle body instead of the 103mm? I have the LT1 engine, 2020 Camaro SS.

[@sdracingllc1594]

You may need to use the adapter plate that comes with the intake, you'd have to test fit and see. Though I would recommend putting a larger one like the 103 with that intake to take full advantage of it.

[@reverenddon1]

Great video! If you had to choose, what would you do first (after e85+tune), headers / exhaust or intake manifold?

[@sdracingllc1594]

Headers and Exhaust first, then intake and throttle body.

[@Fluke2SS]

Yes I did headers, X-Pipe, CAI E85. That was 459 rwhp and 477 rwtq for me. (dynojet) Debating on MSD and 103mm TB as well right now.

[@Blakehenry11]

I did the opposite. I did cold air, intake manifold and throttle body first. Then I came back later and added E85 and LT's.

[@sixto7217]

@@Blakehenry11do you remember how much whp you got with the cold air , intake manifold and throttle body?

[@fredA1234]

Is there anyway to use the factory Camaro plastic valve covers?

[@sdracingllc1594]

There are no previsions on the MSD Intake Manifold to be able to use the factory engine cover that sits on the factory intake manifold.

[@jordangittins7171]

When connecting the throttle body to the msd what did you have in between them?

[@sdracingllc1594]

Throttle body o-ring gasket

[@jtkrpm1]

So the factory intake is a big restriction over stock?

[@sdracingllc1594]

The factory intake only becomes a restriction when adding parts and tuning to the vehicle.

[@shawnboy4368]

Reading the comments drove me crazy 🤪 (Mustang Dyno) there a very low reading dyno but a better Dyno in general! Unlike Dynapack , Dynojet and so forth.. I will say this I don't understand why most tuners don't use the dynamometer software calculations to simulate the translation to these lower reading dynos since everybody wants to see numbers. Not to mention elevation and so forth.. Good job nice builds !!

[@michaelcampbell195]

I have the msd atomic intake, msd 103mm intake, and I'm having issues with it. its drive by cable. The engine wants to high idle until the truck is up to temp do to the TPS not thinking its below .4 for some reason. And the other issue is I can't blip the throttle quickly. the rev won't come down very fast. Completely dumb founded at this point.

[@sdracingllc1594]

What year truck?

[@Hussain14000]

Do I need tune for the 103mm tb and Does it fit with roto fab intake?

[@sdracingllc1594]

Yes you will need a tune for the 103mm Throttle Body. We were able to stretch the coupler that came with the intake for a stock throttle body on this car, so theoretically you could with the RotoFab intake. Ideally you would want to get a different reducer coupler to make it easier.

[@fredA1234]

I just got the MSD Air Force intake but I did not get the 103 mm throttlebody I’m going to use the stock one for now is that OK?

[@sdracingllc1594]

The stock throttle body will work but a throttle body and intake manifold really need to be done together. They are a supporting modification for eachother. So you're not going to get a big benefit until you do add the larger throttle body.

[@martinpalacios6517]

hey quick question for anybody that might know. I recently installed a hi ram and 103mm throttle body on my Camaro and my old air intake doesn't fit anymore. any suggestions on which intake would fit on the throttle body?

[@sdracingllc1594]

What intake do you have?

[@alejandromontes6148]

What cold air intake did you use to fit the 103mm throttle body?

[@sdracingllc1594]

I can't remember what intake it had as it came in with it on.... but we just stretched the coupler to fit over the throttle body.

[@Fluke2SS]

@@sdracingllc1594 K&N Typhoon I believe is 103mm by default just FYI. My tuner did comment that my intake was pretty mean, so I figure with the MSD and 103mm TB it should be a perfect 103mm intake with no bottle necking.

[@theycallmechum]

any idea what the power cable is for under hood?? looks like u had it disconnected

[@sdracingllc1594]

That was the battery cable coming from the trunk. We disconnect the battery for installing the flex fuel kit as a precaution.

[@theycallmechum]

@@sdracingllc1594 sweet thank you, getting ready to do Speed Engineering Long tubes and xpipe, atomic intake and Katech 103 TB

[@sdracingllc1594]

@@theycallmechum you're welcome. You'll have fun with that!

[@modifyvehicleevolution7593]

Sir what is a good torque wrench for this?

[@sdracingllc1594]

We use Snap-On digitals.

[@demonhunter1453]

How did you stretch the CAI intake tube over the 103mm TB? I feel like I've tried everything and it won't stretch far enough

[@sdracingllc1594]

You just have to make it go is all. No tricks, just stretch the heck out of it.

[@lawrencer588]

Was this dyno run with E85 activated and E85 in the tank? I thought you can get 30whp just from the sensor, so you should have seen more gains with the sensor and TB and Intake manifold, right?

[@sdracingllc1594]

A lot of factors play into the dyno numbers. We had a little less desirable weather conditions than previously. Naturally aspirated E85 is typically good for 15-20hp on average.

[@lawrencer588]

@@sdracingllc1594so was e85 in the tank at time of the run? If not, those are great numbers from the TB and intake

[@sdracingllc1594]

@@lawrencer588 e85 was in the tank. The weather that day didn't allow for the best comparison on the mods.

[@insinez4978]

Did you have headers as well ?

[@sdracingllc1594]

The car has longtube headers.

[@Lalo1LE]

What brand wheels are those?

[@sdracingllc1594]

I could not tell you, as we don't know.

[@carlospena9275]

How is that only making 480? I got a 19 camaro that makes more with just full bolt ons with the same set up

[@sdracingllc1594]

What dyno was used?

[@MrJoseeclipse123]

Same here y have bolts on and have 502 hp tune by rpm

[@sdracingllc1594]

@@MrJoseeclipse123 different dynos will have different results. It is all about percent gained over baseline. Not being the ones that did the cam and initial mods I could not tell you what this one baselined at stock. Other than a typical GenV LT1 Camaro will be around 350-360whp on our dyno.

[@MPLaws-en6pi]

@@MrJoseeclipse123 I have a 2017 2ss with a built motor you're not making 502 horsepower to the wheel with just fbo

[@MrJoseeclipse123]

@@MPLaws-en6pi jaja I am making 612 whp watch rpm videos fbo heads cams know

[@fredA1234]

PS it’s the 2019 Camaro SS with a six speed

[@Bigburb1345]

The MSD doesn’t seem worth it. I’ve seen 6th gens make 40whp off E85 alone and the Holley Hi Ram adding 30-38hp as well. However you’d need a bigger hood for the Holley so take that into expenses. Hi ram is 874 MSD is 1000-1300. Throttle body is another 400-500. Only for 30hp seems waste.

[@austinunderwood6329]

I gained 44 wheel on e85 alone could be an issue with tuner honestly

[@jaybird9943]

Throttle response, as well.

[@Gullyswift3]

Its cammed n only made 446?

[@sdracingllc1594]

The cam is a very poor one for the application. It was installed by another shop.

[@Gullyswift3]

@@sdracingllc1594 i was about to say lol. My bolt on car makes almost makes 490

[@zonamade3380]

@@Gullyswift3 you auto?

[@Gullyswift3]

@@zonamade3380 yeah

[@killiansteele1967]

Do features

[@sdracingllc1594]

Lets do yours soon!

[@nathanbrown4237]

Those numbers seem super low considering its cammed

[@jesusceja-serrano2212]

Bro I was thinking the same thing ! Plus he has forged internals everywhere else . I’ve seen dudes make 530+ whp with all this before . These number must be because they’re in high altitude areas that’s the only thing that makes sense

[@mickalousmaxwell2495]

I make more than him and he has more upgrade

[@sdracingllc1594]

Same exact upgrades on the same brand and model of dyno?

[@Lycan_Fragrance]

Should of made over 5

[@sdracingllc1594]

Not on this dyno it wouldn't

[@Lycan_Fragrance]

@@sdracingllc1594 why’s that just curious

[@Lycan_Fragrance]

@@sdracingllc1594 I made 470 wheel on a mustang dyno 2016 2ss manual tsp headers/xpipe rotofab e85

[@sdracingllc1594]

@@Lycan_Fragrance for starters all dynos read differently, even within the same brand. That is why if you want the best comparison on mods do your baseline and tuning on the same dyno. Also this is an auto, not a manual. The manuals have less driveline loss than the auto's do, hence they make more hp at the tires.

[@Lycan_Fragrance]

@@sdracingllc1594 ahhh I didn’t know that with the autos vs man

[@Jommybutler1234]

Atomic $1,000 TB $700 E85. $300 Labour ? $2,000 for 36hp Most seem to agree that the 103mm TB is a waste of money at these HP levels

[@sdracingllc1594]

He plans on going with a procharger soon so this is one of the steps toward that.

[@Race_Ready_1320]

You could also go with the LT2 intake manifold for about $800 less but the gains will be slightly less too

[@Gchang54]

Who's said modding cars would be cheap? I wouldn't use Ebay parts...