MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi BEST Value B650 AM5 Motherboard

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@matic2601]

I like the dark look and absence of RGB!

[@uglybob7505]

Loves me a MSI motherboard ! Hopefully when all of the dust has settled on the initial AM5 "issues" this board as well as other AM5 boards will become more popular. Thanks Mike and Kath 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

here is looking forward to the B750 Tomahawk 😗

[@OlettaLiano]

Anyone who loves MSI can't be ugly in any way, Bob. LOL

[@uglybob7505]

@@OlettaLiano oh it's only my soul that's ugly, the rest of me is tolerable

[@OlettaLiano]

@@uglybob7505 If you say so. I think you'd be fun to have a beer with and shoot some funny bullshit. 👍

[@uglybob7505]

@@OlettaLiano I actually shoot more accurately when Ive had a drink 🙂

[@mikep9418]

My MSI X570 tomahawk wifi is still going strong. Been a great mobo.

[@mikesunboxing]

awesome glad to hear it

[@Real_SkyRipper]

Great review, feel complete as it should be, the best one I saw.

[@mikesunboxing]

Wow, thanks!

[@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5]

I like it ! i might take a look at something like this, i might even use a clearpay or something to get a build done relatively quickly thanks for the review Mike

[@mikesunboxing]

It is a good board and I am glad to have it although I wish I had got the 7700x cpu instead of the 7600x

[@TsunamicBug]

Very detailed and informative review, thank you.

[@Senrab46]

I suppose this must be like when AM4 launched. I had an AM3 mb and elected to get the FX8350 cpu in2018 as a cheaper upgrade ... yeah didnt know how daft an idea that was till much later. B550 seems to be chosing M2 or sata whereas B650 gives bigger choice of storage and faster Ram esp now M2 good value and DDR5 reducing in price. Love the idea of wifi being upgradeable too. Negative is how fragile the mb pins sound plus your usb issues! Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath and look forward to seeing how tech evolves👍

[@mikesunboxing]

ours seems a lot more stable now, actually seems pretty much perfect other than the high idle wattage

[@PapaMav]

@Nick I have hatred for the FX8320.

[@rickh8380]

Great review as always from the Dynamic duo. 😁 I'm a diehard Intel guy, but...... I will be keeping an eye on this new platform. No more pulling the CPU out of the socket. Yikes! I am very interested in the up coming APU processors. Hope AMD puts some serious graphics on those CPU's. Take care all. See you in the Saturday Live Stream. Cheers

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah the chance is there for AMD to make a crazy good APU but if they will or not is anyones guess.

[@realman444]

Well, you're a few years behind, amd is more powerful and consumes less. And it's cheaper and you don't have to change the motherboard. After 20 years of intel, I realized how much of a drag they are making, let's say intel was even better then amd but it was long time ago:))))))

[@1eyek1ng]

intel has the strongest cpus lol the ryzen 9 7950x3d is 14th is overall cpus lol the intel i7-13700k is stronger amd will never be better @@realman444

[@WilliamAPBodie]

Mike's Special Investigation is Worthy of a Support comment. Like & a share 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks William happy Friday

[@PapaMav]

I fully support Willy's Support Coment, even though I have zero interest in any B65Zero.

[@mohrasher]

The three M.2 slots almost make the sata connectors obsolete

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah it is a while since i have used a SATA drive in my own PCs

[@USAF-AMMO-461X0]

Yes, I just use the first two m.2 slots ..2-2tb…because they’re connected to the CPU directly ….the third goes through the chipset. But it’s nice that all three are GEN 4.0.

[@mohrasher]

@@SaveTheHero210 Why you need more than 3 drives?

[@GSP-76]

​@@mohrasherdepends on what you're doing with the PC. People just assume it's a gaming PC. I have the x670e version of this board and I'm using 3 nvme drives plus a 4tb SATA drive. I also have 128gb memory because I do a lot of VM work.

[@LightS_bRight]

​@@GSP-76so I can do what you do with a b650

[@PapaMav]

Added a LIKE.

[@uglybob7505]

Added a like to your like !

[@PapaMav]

@@uglybob7505 and I thought James Miskelaneohs was da man; YOU da man Bob. BTW, just sitting down to dinner and have an American classic beer w/it, Pabst Blue Ribbon, class.

[@uglybob7505]

@@PapaMav Im A man but not THE man 🙂

[@FullaEels]

doing my first desktop after a decade of laptops nd i got this board for abour £120. (oct 2024). pretty good deal i'd say.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is a great price, nicely done

[@LightS_bRight]

Thank you, building mu first p.c with this motherboard and a 7700

[@mikesunboxing]

awesome setup hope it all goes well

[@rabbitmcrabbit5256]

hey man, have you had any issues with the ram overclocking?

[@patricklebel1141]

While I abdolutly love my x570 Tomahawk, there is some issue I discovered in the run. First, I need more than 2 PCI-E slots, preferably not too close each other. I need more on than 2 m.2 slots too. Since I'm not going to upgrade this year, maybe next year tomahawk will suit my needs better.

[@marzero116]

Love my B550 Tomahawks

[@mikesunboxing]

yep they are pretty good

[@saltyexxer8253]

If you use the third m.2 the buss speed is limited by half if there's a board the the 2nd pcie slot. According to the board manual.

[@mikesunboxing]

that sounds about right

[@PepRex]

My two previous motherboards were MSI, Never had a problem with those. I decided to go for a Asrock B650 Steel Legend Wifi to switch it up and I have had nothing but issues with it, I am going to return it as faulty and buy this MSI board.

[@mikesunboxing]

sorry to hear that

[@Atkafası-31]

It is reasonably priced and has SPDIF output. Nuff said for me! Both me and my goxlr are very happy.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah its a nice board

[@TheProductCritiques]

This MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi motherboard looks like an absolute powerhouse for gaming and more! Your review provided an in-depth look at its features and performance. I appreciate how you highlighted the WiFi capability, which is a game-changer for those who want a seamless online gaming experience. Plus, the design is sleek and stylish. Thanks for this informative review, it's definitely on my radar now for my next build! 🎮🖥👍

[@mikesunboxing]

nice board, i thought mine was faulty and returned it and got the edge wifi, and the problem persisted, could have saved some money there

[@rafaelaguazinha]

melhores videos da msi. Para quem gosta da marca aqui esta sempre um prato cheio. Parabéns

[@Italomiks]

You are nice to listen to.

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks 🙏

[@IamDalv]

Was the box sealed? Can you please confirm that? I just got an MSI 650 Edge and the box was NOT sealed at all, only the antistatic bag inside was sealed.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes mine was the same

[@prateekbhanushali1956]

Would investing in PCIe Gen 5 return a better value in the long run when Gen 5 Graphics card arrives? Or the performance difference between Gen 4 and 5 won't matter much?

[@mikesunboxing]

pcie gen3 is only now really being saturated, gen4 still has a bit of capacity left, five really at present is a bit pointless

[@alexnawrot8464]

gen 5 is utterly worthless

[@PapaMav]

Crap Joke Friday: What did the tortoise say on Valentine's Day? I turt-ally love you.

[@uglybob7505]

Awwwwwwww !

[@danmcrae6616]

Nice review and timely for me since I just purchased this mb for a my new build with a 7800x3d. Also appreciate your BIOS flash video. One question about the M.2 slots; will mounting SSD's in the first 2 slots affect the bandwidth for the GPU slot?

[@mikesunboxing]

No that should be okay

[@AzazelezazA]

No it won't affect the GPU slot. That's why I went for this mobo instead of B650 Carbon Wifi. I caught a sale where Carbon Wifi was just $25 more expensive than Tomahawk where I live. But with Carbon Wifi if you put M.2 ssd to either second or third slot, your GPU slot bandwidth goes to x8 which was deal breaker for me. They instead put 4 precious CPU lanes to second PCIE slot which is useless if you're never going to use that slot for soundcard or something.

[@jamiebishop9512]

msi x570 unify here. Quite a few issues with it to be honest. Hopefully this will be better as It fits the bill.

[@gerz1987]

MSI are a fantastic brand. What's the best value MSI B550 board?

[@mikesunboxing]

Gaming plus or the edge WiFi are stand out ones for me

[@heinzbongwasser2715]

good board good review

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks

[@JCTiggs1]

Great video, thanks! I just bought this board for a 7800X3D. I'm not sure what bios it has but hoping the board will recognize the cpu without having to do the usb flash option. Thanks for doing a video on that as well. 😊 Currently just waiting for the DDR-5 6000 ram to arrive so I can put it all together. It will be replacing a 5900X and MSI X570 Tomahawk so I should see a nice boost in games at 1440p.

[@mikesunboxing]

Lovely jubbly

[@GSP-76]

I don't think the B650 boards released with 3D CPU support but you should be fine using the BIOS flashback option.

[@reverbedvonacular]

I'm considering the same MB/CPU combo and everything I've come across so far strongly recommends to upgrade the board to the latest BIOS due to voltage issues that can damage the CPU when memory boost is enabled

[@JCTiggs1]

@@reverbedvonacular I did end up using the bios flash before installing the board and cpu just to be safe. Using the latest from May 29th I think, 7800x3d paired with g.skill ddr5 6000 MHz ram and expo, PBO at -10 all cores for now, rock solid no issues.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@JCTiggs1 Good to hear 🙂

[@MrSegu506]

Will this support Ryzen 5 7600x out of the box without bios update ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it will

[@sweets0ul215]

Should i buy this motherboard or the asrock b650m pro rs? The tomahawk is 210 dollars and asrock is 175 dollars in my country. I do not really need good audio but i want to be able to stick with a motherboard for quite a long time. just Want to upgrade the CPU in the future.Which one should i get?

[@mikesunboxing]

they are two different class boards and one is MATX so it isn't really apples to apples.

[@sweets0ul215]

@@mikesunboxingthe matx and atx does not matter for me. But which one is the best for me?

[@neutraliron7931]

Can I use two 16 gb Ddr5 ram of 6000 Mhz with this board? I have bought 2 sticks of gksill trident z5 neo 16gb ram of 6000 Mhz. Now I want to buy this but I am not sure whether it is compatible or not

[@mikesunboxing]

That should be fine

[@reaktorleak89]

This is probably the best AM5 board on the market.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah it is really good, MSI make some cracking boards

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

In terms of value I'd say Asrock gives some stiff competition with the B650 PG Lightning and B650 Steel Legend, but it's definitely one of the best.

[@Reckerless]

i have heard this motherboard is having loads of issues, but i dont know what to buy

[@mikesunboxing]

with the newer bios revisions it is a much better experience

[@sol-hb8zg]

What’s the best b650 motherboard to get? Is this one a solid shout for an all rounder or better options now?

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah this is a good all rounder, or the edge wifi is a good choice, i actually returned this one for the edge wifi

[@sol-hb8zg]

@@mikesunboxing how come? Sounds good

[@andylin-hp2yx]

So what’s the different between msi b650 edge wifi and this? Or which boards should I choose for future proof?

[@mikesunboxing]

edge wifi is a higher tier and has full heatsink protection on all ports, either will be pretty future proof

[@almaska82]

I have b650m msi mag mortar. I use it from december 2022. Nothing bad to say.

[@mikesunboxing]

very nice board

[@OfficiallyOrca]

B stands for Budget. It's probably the most reasonable price and all-around popular MoBo on the market.

[@schwarzfarn4109]

Thanks for the review! I am building a PC with a 7800X3D and I am Struggling to decide between this Board and the ASRock B650 Steel Legend Wifi, which is 15€ more expensive currently. Could you help me decide?

[@mikesunboxing]

get this or the edge wifi

[@schwarzfarn4109]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you!

[@kreamypie]

Im torn between this and the mpg b560 edge wifi.. which to get ? Or theres not much difference between the 2 and just stick with the cheaper tomahawk.?

[@mikesunboxing]

i preferred the edge personally, but they are very similiar

[@kreamypie]

@mikesunboxing ended up getting the tomahawk since the edge was out of stock. The thing now is I am thinking what is the lowest value you can apply on curve optimizer. I'm already at -45 and it is running stable under load and at idle. But my cinebench r23 score is only at 17.7k. And I find people online getting over 18k with just setting PBO to enable.... everything is updated to latest bios and drivers though....

[@anant0089]

Have you made any video of its bios setup ? share link ty

[@mikesunboxing]

here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppSohomrj9ism80

[@OlettaLiano]

Looks like a right nice motherboard for the price. The only thing better would be a cute redhead, like Mia Solis. LOL

[@mikesunboxing]

Haha 😂 typical oletta! Hope you are okay over there if the news reports are to believed

[@uglybob7505]

@@mikesunboxing I support Oletta's comment ;-)

[@OlettaLiano]

@@mikesunboxing What news reports are you speaking of? All's fine here.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@OlettaLiano the train derailment and the toxic cloud from the wreckage

[@OlettaLiano]

@@mikesunboxing That's way east of me, and the fear mongering news is really hyping it up. I also think it was designed to happen.

[@jay_1152]

Quick question about the audio ports in the back. I have a sennheiser pc38x and was wondering if I connect the audio jacks for it in the mic in and line out ports or the line in and line out ports? I plan on getting this motherboard for my build.

[@mikesunboxing]

use the speaker and mic jacks

[@samueletirelli3611]

the b650 gaming plus wifi costs 180€ while the tomahawk one costs 206€, which one should i pick?

[@mikesunboxing]

i would probably go with the gaming plus i think

[@samueletirelli3611]

@@mikesunboxing same choice as you, i have thought this not for the price but because i heard that the tomahawk wifi had some problems in the past, can you say to me if these problems are there nowadays?

[@AmirEpix]

Still struggling between choosing this board or the edge wifi or the carbon. It's been a tough week

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah i know what you mean, settled on the edge wifi in the end

[@AmirEpix]

​@@mikesunboxingunfortunately the only b650 msi motherboard available in my region is the tomahawk

[@3mrm7md86]

looking forward to buy it, but was wondering does it have bios flashback??

[@TripleCCC05]

I looked it up, it does appear to have it.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it does

[@sheapyfpv8224]

What would u go for out of this motherboard the asus tuf or gigabyte aorus elite ax?

[@mikesunboxing]

all there have their own strong points, MSI still suffers with slow boot times

[@xufn_9849]

i heard some bad comments for this motherboard --- is it good ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah it is a good solid board, although i returned mine and got the edge wifi for the same price

[@chrisgrui1993]

I just broke mine. First time removing the GPU the clamp broke off the pcie slot and damged my board. Its dead now. Guess I got unlucky.

[@mikesunboxing]

sorry to hear that, those PCIe clips can be fiddly, but to have one tear off and damage the board is very rare unless you used way too much force

[@chrisgrui1993]

@@mikesunboxing yeah I agree. Sadly it broke in half while trying to open it without to much force. I am still a big MSI fan though! Guess I got unlucky with a purchase. Got the RTX 3070 MSI suprim and the MSI ultrwide adaptieve sync monitor. Love both of them!

[@yoo9514]

I have been reading that Ryzen CPUs work well with 6000 MHz Rams, but when I look at the specifications of the motherboards that interest me like this one, they support 4800 or 5200 MHz as a maximum base speed, then by overclocking some you reach up to more than 7000 MHz. So my question is if there would be a problem if I use a ram with 6000 MHz as the base speed, will there be a problem?

[@mikesunboxing]

you won't get DDR5 with a base speed of 6000 for a while yet. The default speeds and the XMP speeds are different, so a ram chip might be 5200 default but XMP to 6000. the lower speeds are sometimes referred to as JEDEC speed rather than XMP or EXPO speeds

[@taomahNEGEV]

What about the notoriously long boot time and high VRM temperatures with this particular board?

[@mikesunboxing]

I don't think the VRM temps where problematic? I must have missed that report. The RAM boot times are better now and using context restore also helps a lot. My recent MSI B650 boots to windows desktop in 20 seconds

[@taomahNEGEV]

@@mikesunboxing Win10 optimal boot time is 8-10s. Many comparisons out there showing the Gigabyte Aorus boards are 8-10C cooler.

[@ToussaintZephyrus]

Did you have any issues with slow boot times? I’ve hear this motherboard had issues with them.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes to begin with but much better now

[@ToussaintZephyrus]

@@mikesunboxing what are the boot times now vs before?

[@ryleehenegarlegodofminecra3133]

Whats your outro music? Also good video!

[@mikesunboxing]

otis mcmusic - free in the youtube creator library

[@faustsmith]

Can you please post a video showing the M.2 type wifi socket on this motherboard? Thank you.

[@mikesunboxing]

i don't have the board now but it should be an m.2 E key type

[@lolohasan6424]

Can I use 7950X3D with this motherboard on games.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes you can

[@riddlex]

Hey, great video. Just wanted to know if the DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler is compatible with this motherboard.

[@mikesunboxing]

It should now and say so on the box

[@MrCenttaurus]

Do you think this motherboard can support the power of a Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a rog strix 4090? And in terms of compatibility?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes i don't see why not, it is a decent motherboard

[@MrCenttaurus]

@@mikesunboxing Thanks you very much Sir !

[@Mason-fo7ty]

Does this come with a IO shield or is it already installed in the board

[@mikesunboxing]

it is attached to the board

[@koala0208]

What SSD use? KINGSTON FURY renegade NVMe 1TB is oke?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that will be a good choice

[@koala0208]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

Ur a good expert so he's my question. I have a prime b650m-a ax motherboard and everyone talk very bad about it and not buy but it came with my prebuilt pc.i get the same msi b650 motherboard in ur video for $175.would this help my system for overclocking or anything else?is it worth the buy?😊oh my cpu rysen 7 7700.

[@mikesunboxing]

that board is fine it just has a weaker VRM solution, but for most people it is fine

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

@mikesunboxing thank u I just keep it.thanks for ur advice much appreciated!!

[@wiktorbednarz229]

this is basically the MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI Motherboard but with 2 more usb 2.0, slightly better audio and extra m.2... yeah not worth it for me but good to know

[@laszlodajka5946]

Thank you for the video. im looking to upgrade to am5. on am4 im using the msi mag b550 tomahawk. So with this b650 tomahawk they continue their way on the quality path?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes pretty much it is the spiritual successor to it

[@cjsimpron9022]

I have the same mobo but mine comes with a plastic piece in cmos battery socket and I can’t remove the battery.

[@mikesunboxing]

post a picture of it in the discord and we can have a look to see what is going on there

[@orucreiss]

Hello i recently bought this mobo. Installed two ssd but i couldn't find how to place third ssd's heatsink (02.) so I use without heatsink which I don't want to. Are there any guides about this? Thanks ❤❤

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@orucreiss]

@@mikesunboxing thanks i will soon join the channel

[@Wookiestick]

Just snagged it refurbished on newegg for 95 (135 pre tax US) after rebates, and a 5% cashback offer from Chase.

[@mikesunboxing]

that is a great price

[@DANHjAM]

Great videos, very useful. Subbed! :) What RAM would you recommend going with on this board if any? * I noticed AM5 boards can be a bit unstable with certain types of RAM. Having a hard time trying to decide what to go with. Thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

kingston hyper x fury 5600 or 6000 seems the sweet spot

[@LimeAtions]

i got one of these for 128 CAD. was worth it to me.

[@mikesunboxing]

that is an amazing price!

[@Wolfyvibess]

Would the 4070 and a 7 5800x3d run great on this motherboard?!! 😁

[@mikesunboxing]

sounds good to me

[@mikedasneves]

5800X3D is AM4 not AM5 so nope

[@dealerauctionnightmare4689]

Is AM5 prone to bending like the LGA1700 ones are?

[@mikesunboxing]

no the mechanism is really strong and rigid, the pins on the other hand.

[@dealerauctionnightmare4689]

@@mikesunboxing great, thank you!

[@memething8347]

Heyy idk if u reply i hope so but im in doubt to buy this one for 200 euros or the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX V2 for 180 euros could u help me out im more concerned about the vram being better on the msi and better audio

[@mikesunboxing]

get the msi board

[@Money_Migi]

Mike does the msi b550m pro vdh wifi have built in wifi? The only option I get is to plug in a Ethernet cable. There is no network connectors. I installed the latest bios as well.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it does the gold coloured screw threads should have antenae attached, although there are non wifi versions of that board

[@Money_Migi]

@@mikesunboxing Yeah that is the one I have, Im getting a Bluetooth error code 43 so could that be the problem?

[@Money_Migi]

@@mikesunboxing I got it working. The intel drivers didn’t work so I just installed the amd ones, should I now install the intel ones? Or I don’t need to.

[@DigitCraze]

How many ARGB 3 pin connections are there? I only see two.

[@mikesunboxing]

That sounds about right

[@DigitCraze]

@@mikesunboxing What can I do if I need more 3 pin connections, but only have the 2( I need 3).

[@mikesunboxing]

You can buy a hub or splitter. A powered hub would be best: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaLIfYGXedWba68 @@DigitCraze

[@rafaelaldana1503]

It's an dark B650 Edge wifi RGB. What's the difference?

[@mikesunboxing]

no idea can't find anything about that model anywhere, sure that is the right model?

[@rafaelaldana1503]

@@mikesunboxing MPG B650 EDGE WIFI from MSI.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@rafaelaldana1503 edge wifi was also reviewed and for me was the better board and i preferred the colour scheme and port layout

[@mroutkast3695]

What’s the max ram speed limit for this board?

[@mikesunboxing]

currently 8000 i think, or 7200. It changes almost every BIOS update

[@vsinth5576]

could you help me out i am building with this motherboard and i cant find where to plug the JUSB2 from my PC case onto this board

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@ninni8754]

Hey, i know its an older video but myself im kinda between this and gigabytes gaming x ax which are both basically at same price, any thoughts or recommendations to which side you would lean on? I kinda ruled out ASUS since they had some weird bios problems which resulted to bricked cpus and apparently they are not going so strong on AM5 platforms overall is my impression.

[@mikesunboxing]

i would be tempted to try the AX gigabyte seem to be doing good things for this generation

[@ninni8754]

@@mikesunboxing Hey a follow up question; do you have any knowledge about stability of different boards, im hoping to find a board around 200-230 dollars and for example apparently this board has given issues to many around long boot times and problems with ram.

[@chibble3591]

will this mobo be 7000 compatible out of the box or do i need to flash the bios?

[@mikesunboxing]

X3D chips will likely need an update

[@chibble3591]

@@mikesunboxing ok I’m getting a 7700x so would I possibly need an update? Thank you.

[@YoDaddyB]

what pc case would u recommend for this

[@mikesunboxing]

that is a really open ended question. gamemax F15 mesh, phanteks p400a fractal mesh, msi 100r

[@Pinozzo]

I'm making a custom loop for computer cooling and I would like to connect a temperature sensor to the board but I couldn't identify its position, do you know if it supports it?

[@mikesunboxing]

most temp sensors use the internal USB 2.0 header i think

[@brad-kj8it]

In the top ssd slot with heatsink could a 990 2tb ssd fit and in bottom right heatsink slot would a 990 1 tb fit

[@mikesunboxing]

yes to both

[@brad-kj8it]

@@mikesunboxing ok thanks to getting back to me and letting me know

[@Ryan-gc9om]

you said that the second m.2 port is gen4x2 what does that mean? and why can I only find gen 4x4 pcies?

[@mikesunboxing]

the slot is gen 4 but only x2 bandwidth where almost all drives are X4 so the drive will likely run a little slower than it could

[@kaskalo2]

I'm shopping for b650 now. And I can't make my mind between this one, aorus elite ax v2 and steel legend wifi. I keep going back and forward but just can't decide 😅 (all priced similarly)

[@mikesunboxing]

steel legend or this one i think

[@arunrana6170]

Is this better than the asus tuf 650 plus wifi?

[@mikesunboxing]

given asus current situation i would definitely avoid asus this generation

[@arunrana6170]

@@mikesunboxing should I avoid the asus 3060ti oc v2 gpu as well then?

[@vinamraagarwal5095]

Hi, I have been thinking about pairing this with a 7950X because I will not be making use of any PCI.e 5 Gen slots. Can you please let me know if this would be good fit for 3D rendering purpose.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it will be fine for that

[@GoldenAnchovy24]

I'm having trouble getting thr 2 pcie slots installed. Cords are too stiff. Any suggestions?

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@jsutabird3842]

Does the second pcie x16 slot run at x16, x4, or x2 considering getting this motherboard but the msi specs say its x2

[@mikesunboxing]

i would say 4x as my elgato camlink pro needs x4 and i use that form streaming

[@jsutabird3842]

@@mikesunboxing Ok cool, I was planning to put a 3060ti on it, and 4.0x4 shouldn't bottleneck it too much

[@mikegraham4255]

I just picked up a 7600 and this motherboard. Will probably return for something with 2 M2s and an extra PCIe slot instead. Also bought without checking PCI lane support. (upgrade itch + beer + sale + 4 am = bad decisions!) help!

[@mikesunboxing]

the asus b650 tuf gaming is pretty good although the asus software is rubbish

[@Glorious_Yell0w]

Do u need to connect both x8 cpu connectors or will only one work? im using a 7900x and 32gb ram and a rtx 3090 and a 1000w plat psu.

[@mikesunboxing]

either way is fine

[@monii2345]

How to connect an internal USB noctua 5volt fan pls tell ?

[@mikesunboxing]

usb? or one of the noctua voltage low noise adapters

[@xerohpoint431]

Can I use a WD_black ssd WITH HEATSINK on this board?

[@mikesunboxing]

in the top slot yes if you remove the included one from msi

[@ninjasamal664]

How about the Asrock B650E PG Riptide Wifi ?

[@mikesunboxing]

looks pretty good, only the fan control and rgb software really lets asrock down

[@ninjasamal664]

@@mikesunboxing Should I go for this one or the asrock one ? Asrock has a 8 layer PCB and PCIE 5.0 Slots should I consider that ?

[@JamesPillip]

Hello i have a kingston 1t m.2ssd that was around 50 bucks and i wanted to know if i can install a much quicker kingston fury 2t m.2 in the other slot without any issues?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that should be fine, it is very rare that you will need to reach the highest transfer speeds unless you are benchmarking, in normal use it will be fine

[@tsfabrar]

i am going with ryzen 9 9900x and 4070 super.. will this motherboard be fine ??? also will buy two m.2 gen4 ssds.. samsung 1tb now and later another 1 tb... ram tforce delta 6000mhz 16x2

[@mikesunboxing]

make sure the RAM is EXPO certified

[@liamjr92]

Hi I have this motherboard but not sure if I should update bios to beta version what do you think thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

i am on the latest no beta and it seems okay, if you have an X3D chip the beta might be a good idea

[@thecreekprdgy4861]

Wheres the usb 3.0 plugin?

[@mikesunboxing]

next to the 24 pin power

[@thecreekprdgy4861]

@@mikesunboxing I found it but the video was delayed when you talked about it so I was confused

[@sethsphoto]

I’ve never built a pc so a lot of this information goes right over my head. And the specific elements being discussed are not being pointed at. Hard to know what I’m supposed to look at!

[@mikesunboxing]

if you have never built a pc you probably need a motherboard layout and function tutorial rather than a motherboard review. once you learn the general layout and composition of modern motherboards it will make sense

[@nosurrender2740]

It supports 128 DDR5 but up to what frequency?

[@mikesunboxing]

depends on the ram configuration and how many sticks used

[@ysimracing]

Mate is crazy how mobo is expensive in uk ,I choose tomahawk b650 because offers max for good price,and is second my tomahawk

[@ysimracing]

Would you recommend this motherboard for 9700x cpu and 4090 gpu? Asking because all components coming today and just wanted to know if is OK to start building new tower or sended back and get different motherboard? Thanks

[@marcmulrain9238]

i bought this motherboard from amazon and i cant get the board to boot up even the bios. i cant even get it to power up once i connect the cpu 8pin connection to power supply. if i have just the 24pin ATX connected to power supply i get the red cpu and amber memory on the ez debug led and fan on power supply comes on but no bios on screen i cant even flash the bios from usb once i connect the power supply cpu 8 pin to motherboard if just the 24pin ATX connected to board i get white bios light flash slow the about 5 seconds then speed up for about 5 mins then board restarts itself is there something wrong with my motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

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