How To Use MSI USB Flashback BIOS Update AM5 Motherboards B650 Tomahawk WiFi

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How To Use MSI USB Flashback BIOS Update AM5 Motherboards ft MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi
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How to use the USB BIOS Flashback method to update the UEFI BIOS on the modern MSI AM5 platform. This is going to be useful for updating the BIOS to support newer non X chips and also the X3D variants that AMD are bringing out in the future.
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[@misplacedmodifier46]

Excellent - thanks, I'm 77 and this will be my first attempt at flashing the MB out of the box and your tutorial was presented perfectly - I've subscribed

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped and welcome to the community. Hope to see more comments from you in other videos

[@vinegar6676]

holy moly good luck

[@mRsnow-aku]

Can you help me? Im drin germany. My pc does after flashing restart? Is that normal? Both LEDs are still on, at the board​. I have a B650M Mortar WiFi. Best regards 🎉@@mikesunboxing

[@mikesunboxing]

@@mRsnow-aku This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@Thedutchjelle]

My first PC built alone, and this video helped me a ton. Even trivial stuff like the power connectors helped me! Thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@AlexKowalski-ci6im]

EXCELLENT; EXCELLENT; EXCELLENT ! Finally someone who explained it from A-Z. Thank's a lot, highly appreciated.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful! we try and take it step by step and explain why things are done a certain way. I find it helps

[@uglybob7505]

You know what I like.....a damn good MSI BIOS tour and update !!! Judging by the number of BIOS questions coming up in Discord this video is bound to get a load of views over time. Thanks Mike and Kath 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

hopefully this will answer a lot of questions for us, but it can also be used as a refence point, hopefully

[@rhreznor]

When I update and rename Do I erase file extension

[@felipesiedschlagyopan4185]

I'm impressed to find a video for the exact motherboard I bought. I'm receiveing mine today, unfortunately the power supply comes only next week. Thanks a lot for the video!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@themaliciousone666]

are you happy with it? how are the boot times? thinking of getting the same for a 7800x3d

[@felipesiedschlagyopan4185]

@@themaliciousone666 I had problems initially, the computer was restarting from time to time, bsod behavior with power state mode message. This was fixed after a bios update and I think the boot time got better too, or I just got used haha. Overall I am happy with the board, it has all resources I need and is working well.

[@A-cap79]

​@@felipesiedschlagyopan4185 hope u doing good btw u still recomend to get tomahawk b650 or nat ?

[@kacpergnys7166]

I'm building my first pc and was worried about the bios since I have no clue what to expect. This tutorial was perfect and worked like a charm even with my small 3.8gb usb. Thanks so much for the video 😁

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@alwaystriumph]

Thank you Mike for going through this. I had the same exact board. It was perfect. I had a little trouble with first usb drive, referred to your video about formatting usb correctly. Unfortunately didn't help, switched to an ancient usb stick, and it immediately started working. Thank you again!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@hvx7490]

thank you so much! this worked for me except i went into bios and clicked the m-flash and did it thru there. only thing is that if anyone does it thru bios and not the way he did, don’t change the name of the files cause it won’t show when you press on your USB disk

[@chrisdutton2011]

Great video, thank you. I will be doing this tomorrow and always reassuring to watch it being done beforehand.

[@mikesunboxing]

Have fun!

[@philbill4958]

The CPU and RAM lights are on to tell you that the CPU has a fault and so does the RAM! Which is not surprising since neither of them are present :)

[@Keystone762]

Would there be a problem if I did this with a 1000w psu?

[@jak_youtube90210]

@@Keystone762no, I just did it with my 1000 watt psu and it worked just fine. As long as you do this process correctly the wattage of your psu shouldn’t matter

[@philbill4958]

@@Keystone762 Should not make any difference as the power draw is really small

[@ibilesfighter3.16]

I've been having issues with these lights constantly glowing even when cpu is installed and ram is installed and idk what to do

[@botet017]

Can l just skip the previous updates and just straight update bios to the latest one ???

[@VampirusX]

Clearest and best flash tutorial I have seen! Thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

glad to help

[@furkanozcnar7898]

Thanks Mike! I have no experience in pc building, and just wanted to say you're a lifesaver

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@bullyellis1]

Thanks man. First build in like 7 years and this part made me the most nervous!

[@mikesunboxing]

Hopefully the video made you feel at ease

[@kashem425]

Perfect. Just what I needed. I came back because I forgot if I had to short the pins or just push the flash button. Just push the flash button :)

[@wyverv]

Thank you for this video! Worked perfectly! I used a 64gb usb but partitioned it to 32gb and it worked perfectly

[@histrydin9367]

This helped a lot thank you, I also was being dumb, I never rearranged the boot up priority after imstalling windows so usb was still number 1 which led to a boot up time of about 3 mins and 26secs then I realized it after watching this so i fixed the priority along with enabling the thing u said and now we are down to 20 secs

[@mikesunboxing]

that is pretty decent! nice one

[@the_flushjackson]

Worked great -- flashed her from a May 2023 BIOS to November 2023, easy.

[@mikesunboxing]

nice work!

[@rek516]

Im so mad that nowhere tells you that you have to do this, you saved me a trip back to the PC store! Thank you so much!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help

[@ololeader]

Hi Mike, A big shout-out to you for all the great work you’ve been doing here. I only found your channel a few weeks ago but subscribed pretty quickly. I completed my first pc build over the weekend (owned a lot of PCs but never built one myself) and your videos, especially on Kolink Citadel Mesh RGB, MSI B550m Pro-VDH wifi and BIOS setup, have been an immense help. I decided to go for the system with integrated graphics and chose Ryzen 7 5700G and everything is working really well so far. I’m using 1 TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 NVMe ssd at the moment but found out only yesterday that the processor doesn’t support PCIe 4.0 so I guess my ssd is not currently being utilised to it’s full potential. A rookie mistake/oversight I guess. Not all is lost, however, as I am already planning my next build, this time with a discrete GPU and a processor supporting PCIe 4.0 so I will just use this ssd in my new build and will get something cheaper for this one. Thanks again and I guess I’ll be back for some more useful tips and tutorials pretty soon. 😊

[@mikesunboxing]

awesome alex, glad to know the videos are helping and the advice is being used, the citadel range of cases are pretty awesome my video editing PC is the Citadel mesh ATX rgb and it works really well for me

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@Michael-je6yf]

Hi , i have a problem with my pc , after i did the update without cpu and ram it wont boot up , the lights on cpu and dram keep blinking and it starts to drive me nuts , can you help me plz ?

[@mikesunboxing]

@@Michael-je6yf This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@BotecodoDM]

Bravo, saved me messing around with memory overclock, thanks a lot!

[@iTzDaNiiLo]

This process is always so nerve racking to me. But this video is so perfect because I'm working on this exact board. Gives me so much peace of mind. Thanks for sharing and explaining step by step how to do it! My first MSI board. I'm excited

[@mikesunboxing]

hope the build all goes well, and if you need any help please get in touch or join the discord chat

[@blackestsoul]

Thank you so much, this was the best clear video I have found for what I was looking for. Grade a instructions.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dalecoles-h1r]

Cheers Mike this looks straight forward enough, clear and and well presented. iv'e got the same mobo. gonna do it when psu and usb stick arrive👍

[@mikesunboxing]

good luck hope it all goes well, if not jump in the discord and we can try and figure out any issues

[@floydianlou]

worked on a x670e tomahawk wifi, you're the best!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it worked out for you

[@goblitch]

Massive thanks for this, thought I could get away without a BIOS update but all I got was yellow DRAM & red CPU debug lights for my laziness D:

[@theram8653]

were you able to use flashback with your cpu installed, or did u have to disassemble the pc?

[@goblitch]

@@theram8653 Yep! Was fully assembled in tower, CPU installed and a bad BIOS on the board; had 0 problems

[@stephenmilazzo2535]

Mine won't fully catch. Everything installed and hooked up. USB stick flashes and system restarts but still the CPU and RAM lights are on. No display.

[@Arshdeepthegamer]

​@@stephenmilazzo2535Try reflashing the bios to the USB again and if it doesn't work try the first version of the bios

[@Keystone762]

@@stephenmilazzo2535May need to use a smaller usb, someone said they did it with a 128 gb and failed, after swapping to a 4gb it worked

[@Jeremyspoptart]

Just smashed the like button and now my monitor is broken. Thanks Mike

[@mikesunboxing]

oops, sorry about that 😎

[@SamuraiMerrick]

Super helpful I couldn’t find this in the manual!!!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@SamuraiMerrick]

@ also it worked! 9800X3D is up and running!

[@Krappadizzle]

@@SamuraiMerrick How long did the process take? My b650 Mobo has been led has been flashing for nearly 10 minutes now.

[@SamuraiMerrick]

@ bout 10/15 minutes hopefully yours worked out, sorry for late response.

[@BorisZakharov98]

Still extremely helpful, you showed everything quite clearly. thanks a lot Mr.Mike.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ironiclee9751]

You saved my ass, I had everything all set up and the flashback didn't work, ended up taking everything off the mobo and using a 4gb flash drive instead of a 128gb one and boom, it worked. Thank you.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you got it done

[@CryptHole]

Thank you for this video, i was uncomfortable doing a bios flash to my mainboard, but I feel comfortable now :)

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help! hope it goes well

[@patricklebel1141]

This feature is what was really needed with AMD's long socket support. Having to find an older cpu just to update was a pain in the back's bottom. I'Ll never buy a motherboard without that feature again, as I ometime forget to flash the bios to the latest one before fully assemble the new one with the newer parts, so resell it is not as easy as it should. I dont like having to remove the cpu and ram of a fully funtional computer just to flash an older board.

[@mikesunboxing]

got a weird one at the moment with the B650 carbon wifi that doesn't actually have the BIOS flashback port labelled?

[@patricklebel1141]

@@mikesunboxing Rushed product?

[@mikesunboxing]

@@patricklebel1141 Maybe

[@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5]

I made the decision im upgrading my System this Year ! it was just a CPU upgrade, that i should of got Christmas but one thing leads to another and its on a back burner still. i may as well save the parts up and do the best build i can now as Mines struggling with what im trying to do ! i may go with a B550 Or 650 I helped my son build a 5900 3d With a 3080 and I Was gutted going back to mine at 70 to 80 fps lol

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

😆

[@whodathunkit1733]

Thank you for this guide! I just bought a Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Says I need BIOS version 7d75v13 to run it. Question - probably a dumb one but I'm new to this: does it matter if I use a version *after* that, or do I need to use that BIOS version? Example: can I use 7D75v17 (released August 2023), or do I need to use version 7d7v13?

[@mikesunboxing]

use the newest version available

[@rajendertkr]

My pc bios was corrupted because of power outage. Thanks to you i reinstalled it, now it is up and running

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad the video helped you

[@JCerris]

If your flash drive or external hard drive is larger than 32gb you can use Disk Management to delete the volume, then create a disk with less than 32gb, this way you'll be able to select the FAT32 File system.

[@SimoneMattogno]

But why can't it be less than 32gb?

[@tel7625]

Thanks for this, would you recommend me doing this for my msi x670e tomahawk along with the ryzen 7800x3d for my new build? Also if I do should I download latest stable release or beta?

[@mikesunboxing]

get the newest bios, the betas are generally fine and just it takes longer to validate these days compared with the release frequency of the bios updates

[@tel7625]

@@mikesunboxing thanks, I’m going to build without flashing the bios first though, I checked and I think the manufacturer date of my x670e tomahawk is October 2024, so will build then check the version once up and running.

[@chaplin577]

Great video! My BIOS was updated with no problems

[@mikesunboxing]

glad it helped

[@CthRage8946]

I brought this motherboard. I made up my PC with it and when set up windows 11, thurnderstorm was roaming. The bios updates downloaded automatically with the Win11 thanks to the utility. I had a bit power outage, and I had to use this q flash. This Q-flash is life-saver.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah i try to avoid buying any motherboard that doesn't have a flash back button

[@CthRage8946]

@mikesunboxing This is what I do not like about Gigabyte. They made really good motherboards back in the time, but recently they f off. For 250$ people expect an entry level ATX to have at least Type-C header in the back because most wired keyboard and wireless ones use Type-C to Type-C! Did you ever experienced something I did? How did the Q saved you?

[@WilliamAPBodie]

Mike's How it is is Worthy of a Support comment. Like & a share 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks WB

[@bryana.o.1116]

Hi Mike, thanks for all your time makimg this videos. I have one quesiton, can i update the mobo bios after complete my build or its necesary update before? Im asking because the amd expo profile on the ram can cause some troubles.

[@mikesunboxing]

If the cpu is supported you can do it whenever you like 👍

[@bryana.o.1116]

@@mikesunboxing Excelent. Thanks again Mike. Your the best.

[@neuropcs5879]

SUCH a helpful guide Mike! I'm honestly so grateful for all the videos that you pump out for us. You are genuinely one of my favourite content creators. Rather random question, but do you do a lot of gaming in your free time, and if so, what kinds of games? I've really been enjoying Red Dead Redemption 2 as of recently. It's a slow one for sure, but damn is it detailed! Cya Mike :)

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks! we really appreciate that, a lot of work goes on here and we have pretty much given up our regular life to do all this, so comments like this make it see more worthwhile. Gaming wise being that we grab a few minutes here and there it is mostly the games that are in the benchmarks we do, for me mostly CSGO rocket league, Dead Island 2 wreckfest are the key ones at the moment

[@chadhoward4457]

Well structured Mike! Thanks!

[@Fred_Pinheiro25]

Muito obrigado, fiquei com muito medo de fazer algo errado mas segui o seu vídeo e deu tudo certo, muito obrigado mais uma vez 🤠👍🏻🇧🇷

[@remarrytf]

Awesome video! Helped me a lot with my first build thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped!

[@edobushido9234]

can you update Bios after build? what's the differences between this video and updating it after build?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes you can, but if for some reason the update fails you have a more challenging time figuring out why

[@ThatHPIGUY]

Thanks for the video. Mine arrives tomorrow ❤️

[@mikesunboxing]

Hope you like it!

[@ruinfox4108]

Just ordered this motherboard yesterday for my new ryzen 5 7600, want to know as much about the board as i can and your videos helping.

[@mikesunboxing]

glad to hear it

[@DAVVV39]

Hi. May I ask what RAM you are using?

[@ruinfox4108]

@@DAVVV39 also the XMP worked right out the box in my case, no BIOS update needed just had to enable the profile and boom, 6000Mhz. just make sure you put the ram in slots 2 & 4 not 1 &3, made that mistake and my PC wouldnt boot till i moved them across.

[@DAVVV39]

@@ruinfox4108 You really didn't need to update the bios? And what RAM model do you have exactly?

[@ruinfox4108]

@@DAVVV39 nope, no bios update needed, same motherboard in this video. I sent you the link to the exact same ram I ordered, Corsair Vengeance 2x16Gb DDR5 c36 6000mhz memory.

[@alexdeise7211]

Hey Mike thanks for the great informational video. Kind of confused on when to flash bios, just picked up a brand new 7800x3D and a MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI MSI board. I'm seeing conflicting reports, do I need to flash before hand or can I install all hardware, get my first boot then update bios? Thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

Either can work but if for some reason it won’t flash you might need to strip in down to diagnose or even return the board, so i try and do it first before the build but it will work on a fully built system if it is built properly

[@Transformaster]

You're the g. Thank you for your quick and simple guide ♥️♥️

[@mikesunboxing]

Happy to help!

[@DaakMedia]

I’m building a Pc atm with a 7800x3d and this exact mobo. If I use my standard 750w power bank to do this process will the motherboard be okay? I’m new to the pc world so apologies if it’s a dumb question lol, heard people have fried their pc from having too large of a power bank. Thank you for making this!!!💯

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is fine, it won't be a problem. The motherboard will only draw the power it needs, which for this task is probably less than 100w

[@Krucible]

Hi Mike, I don’t know if you still respond to comments on this vid, but I recently built a new PC. I have a MSI Pro B650-P WiFi and just tried to flash the bios bc it would not post. The Flash indicator stays solid white and I do not know what else to do. Any tips? Components are an R7 7800X3D, ASUS 4070, G.Skill Flare X5, PowerSpec 750Watt Bronze, and motherboard as stated.

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@beatskool101]

Just did mine hopefully it went ok, but after turning off it went back on, ie case fans and those 2 led's, so it doesn't fully shut off power, so I wasnt sure if it was in a flashing loop but the rear led near the button was off, so hopefully all went well.

[@mikesunboxing]

hope it all goes well in the end

[@TinieMx]

I followed your video tutorial step-by-step yesterday, and it went exactly like your video. I was super happy, thinking it worked out so easily. After assembling my new computer however, it will not boot. I double checked all components, everything is connected, and everything has power. I was therefore thinking the bios flash didn't work after all, seeing as it won't boot. I have a AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D with this B650 mobo. I don't know if this was stupid, but I then tried to flash the bios again, with all components installed. This time, when holding the flash button, it started but immediately went out after only 3-4 seconds. I nearly haven't slept tonight, thinking I've now done something wrong/broken something. What should I do??

[@mikesunboxing]

There are a lot of reasons the BIOS update won't work as it should. If you are interested, we have made a video discussing common errors and some sanity checks you can make before considering returning the motherboard or taking it to a professional. kzbin.info/www/bejne/inXXo3tohtiVftE This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@TinieMx]

@mikesunboxing Thank you for the reply. I've watched the entire video, and I'm gonna try to flash an older bios version. I can't really see that it will work, as the manufacturer said the mobo had been updated for 9000-series, in other words, I just need to update it to be compatible with the X3D version. Is there anything I should do before attempting the bios flash again, or is it safe to just do again?

[@feizuru]

@@TinieMx Have you fixed this issue? I'm going to be running the same cpu and mobo combo and I'm scared of running into issues!

[@Michael-je6yf]

Actually it helped me this video , all i had to do was to rename the file but it still helped

[@DaKloneGaming]

I'm sitting here trying to figure out why I couldn't see (E7D96IMS.AA0) in my 512GB Flash Drive... 1:54 - "(M-Flash) requires 32GB flashdrives; or less." Thank you for the tip!

[@enriquecantu]

Great vid, new subscriber here with this video alone. One question, will I need to install the cpu before the flash?

[@mikesunboxing]

No need but you can if you want to, and thanks for the sub

[@caedes79]

big thanks for your video! saved me tons of time trouble shooting just cuz i forgot to rename the file to MSI.ROM

[@mikesunboxing]

hope it is all working okay now?

[@satheshbm92]

Great video. Can i do this process on a MAC ?I am building my first PC and have only a mac.

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes you can!

[@ethanbrazile6934]

Can you do a video of testing with a monitor after this step...for a 1st time builders...you may already have it I haven't seen it tho ....Thanks for your videos they help alot

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes I can

[@niamat5129]

Great video. I'm have a MSI b650m mortar Wifi. Is the process same with my motherboard ? Also is it a good mobo for 7800x3d?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes and yes

[@OtsegoS]

Hi Mike ! is this preaty much the same for Msi mag tomahawk x670e ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is right just different bios file

[@ExpPepsi]

I'm going to build a computer and I'm getting the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI motherboard and pairing it with the ryzen 7 7800x3d will i need to do this?

[@mikesunboxing]

only it the board is old stock

[@Marthacus]

Hi. Im building my first pc and bought this exact model. Do i need to update my bios? Im using amd 7700x for my cpu. And this method still the safest as of present times? Tha k you

[@mikesunboxing]

that should work straight out of the box, but schedule an update at some point for security patches

[@incrediblePsychoheaD]

Very useful, thanks a lot! This might be my Mainboard of choice, once the 7800x3D is out.

[@mikesunboxing]

Good choice!

[@jenshendrickx2230]

did you get the 7800x3d with this board? I just bought these and im just wondering

[@incrediblePsychoheaD]

@@jenshendrickx2230 Yes i got this Board with the 7800x3D. Worked perfectly fine.

[@buzzdown418]

@@jenshendrickx2230update?

[@captainclam_]

This is probably a stupid question but I'm gonna ask it anyways. If I want to upgrade my bios from an older one to a new one with everything already built and used already will that affect anything? I tried doing it already via m-flash and the screen was just black. Also is it ok to upgrade from the 7D75v13 version directly to the newest version being 7D75v1K. I've seen some people say sometimes its not safe to upgrade bios from an old version straight to a new version as it can lead to problems. I used this tutorial back in April and it worked flawlessly btw thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

as long as the bios is not more than a few revisions it is okay to jump to the newest, if the system is a couple of years old then a few jumps might be needed

[@petkez]

Great info. Is the 7950X supported out-of-the-box by any chance?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it should be

[@Living4enthernity]

Great thank you for this video just flashed my board 👍

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@ruinfox4108]

just a few questions, is it safe to assume i can do this with the motherboard already installed in the pc as a fully setup rig? im sure it would make little difference

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it will work, but if it doesn't you have a lot more variables in play to work out why it isn't working

[@austangbadboi2187]

i am going to be getting an MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi board. Will this tutorial apply to that specific board??

[@mikesunboxing]

yes same process

[@FromMeToYou-]

This is my first time building a PC, and I am doing this for my 7800X3D. Would it be okay to build the entire PC first, then start the BIOS to check for any problems before using the flashback?

[@mikesunboxing]

sure it is, but if for some reason it won't flash you won't know what part is preventing the flash processor, just be aware of that

[@nickhtk6285]

Hello Mike. Why 32GB or less for the drive? I see this mentioned here and there, some say 16GB but no one says why. Regardless, great video. Thank you.

[@mikesunboxing]

the fat32 file system is for drives up to 32GB in size, larger drives use exfat or nfts file systems

[@nickhtk6285]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you so much. I guess we take for granted that it's a known thing.

[@Juhanius]

I havent done much bios flashing and tbh the matter scares me a bit cause i can see myself fucking it up somehow 😂 But there is one matter you touched upon at the end which i kinda wanted to reclarify if i understood you correctly; You somehow screw the process, the fact that board supports qflash or qflash+ (this works on both or needs +?) makes it irrelevant cause flashing that way works even if the current bios is fubar? Oh yea and regarding usb stick, does it just as well with 64gb stick if you partition it so you can format it to fat32 or does this pose higher risk somehow?

[@mikesunboxing]

the idea of qflash is to replace or recover a bios in a non booting PC so unless you somehow damage the circuits that operate the flashblack even a screwed up flash can be recovered in almost every instance. due to the really basic nature of the system i would encourage using a smaller than 32GB drive if possible but smaller partitions on larger drives have been known to work

[@mjribes]

Noob question : Does this have to be done on a bare motherboard (i.e. before youre inserted your RAM, GPU, CPU etc)?

[@mikesunboxing]

ideally but not totally necessary, but easier to diagnose if it doesn't work

[@mjribes]

@@mikesunboxing Cool. Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@mjribesNo problem 🙂

[@aramalim4407]

What does it mean when the light instantly stops flashing and stays on? I am using the same motherboard as you are. I'm worried it didn't work and I'm too afraid to pull out USB and try again in case I ruin the process

[@Keystone762]

Anything happen?

[@mikesunboxing]

means the drive is not recognised

[@OriGiiNaLShAnKs]

Hi and thanks for the video! Im just wondering why the flash drive shouldnt be larger than 32gb since I didnt find this info anywhere on the motherboard site itself. Thanks in advance for the answer!

[@mikesunboxing]

because that is the file size limit of FAT32 unless a new partition is created, which adds another layer of complexity

[@agentsmithafed]

Just bought this Mobo today and want to know if I need to install directly the lastest one or need to install one by one till the last one?

[@mikesunboxing]

just go straight to the newest one

[@bluedior3863]

should i do this before putting anything on it? Also, how long were the boot times for you?

[@mikesunboxing]

i would do it first but up to you. it can be done at any time. Boot times after setting up the DDR5 bios settings are excellent. we did a video on it

[@bluedior3863]

@@mikesunboxing perfect! what's the name of the video if you don't mind

[@mikesunboxing]

@@bluedior3863 How To Install DDR5 RAM Into PC & EXPO DOCP XMP BIOS Settings You Must Change: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5nYgYebpsecbac

[@bluedior3863]

@@mikesunboxing thanks!

[@tututaurus]

Thank you ❤

[@mikesunboxing]

You're welcome 😊

[@DAVVV39]

Great video. I have a question. Will this RAM be compatible with this motherboard? G.Skill Flare X5, DDR5, 32 GB, 6000MHz, CL30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5) I'm building a computer for the first time.

[@alexrathbun3817]

Yes. I check qvl

[@DAVVV39]

@@alexrathbun3817 Are you sure? These RAM are on the list, but with the ending "TZ5N" and not "FX5".

[@alexrathbun3817]

@@DAVVV39 did you type in the exact sn in the search bar?

[@DAVVV39]

@@alexrathbun3817 Yes. The only difference is the ending after the dash. Instead of "FX5" there is "TZ5N".

[@alexrathbun3817]

@@DAVVV39 I wouldn't chance it. I went to newegg and got a bundle and the ram in the bundle just so happen to work with this Mobo.

[@tomaszkupnicki9235]

Hi Mike, I just try that. My white bios LED is flashing since like 20 minutes, but no LED flasing on MB. I think someting went wrong. How can I cancel the process and try again?

[@mikesunboxing]

just turn off the power and try another usb or file

[@vampiszon6620]

@@mikesunboxing thanks I unplugged USB during blinking. It appears that the update didn't even start as I could turn on my rig normally and worked fine. But I was sweating like a hooker in a church, thought I bricked it.

[@luisfelipesavoldi3696]

muito bom man vlw im from Brazil btw

[@mikesunboxing]

hello to all our BraBrazilian viewers!

[@giobba2076]

Is possible doing this with the pc already assembled or should i remove ram CPU ssd and gpu?

[@mikesunboxing]

just the RAM will likely be okay

[@DutchGuy_Limburg]

Would this board be enough for a 7800x3d? Got a 4090 and 2 m.2 drives one is x4 and the other is a x3 drive..... no sata drives.. don´t wonna spend money for a x670e chipset

[@mikesunboxing]

maybe look at the msi b650 edge wifi

[@buzzdown418]

@@mikesunboxingwhy is the tomahawk not enogh for those specs?

[@bill_birba]

Very informative video. I feel more safe doing it my self now. One question though, The bios file extension needs to be changed for the "No CPU" version of flashing? What's wrong with the default one? I saw the official msi instructions on how to flash and they kept the original extension but the flashing was done through bios menu and not the button.

[@mikesunboxing]

the hardware bios flashing system is looking for a specific filename and because the tiny chip is really basic they can't program it to recognise specific files, so it has to be a specific filename

[@thegoldenatlas753]

​@@mikesunboxingis that necessary for when you have a cpu in? Im trying to understand what the difference is. My brand new board isn't posting at all with red cpu yellow dram and most are saying to flash bios

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@thegoldenatlas753

[@thegoldenatlas753]

@@mikesunboxing i managed to get it working yesterday Weirdly enough i had to turn off and on the rgb/debug light switch on the motherboard Removing cmos, jumping jbat1, and everything else all failed till i did that switch. No clue why and never saw a post even suggest it as a solution.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you got it working :-) @@thegoldenatlas753

[@patrickbelville4861]

Is it the same process for X670E? And do i put the USB into the same flash USB slot if the computer is fully put together?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes the process is the same just a different bios file

[@Senrab46]

So straight forward when you follow your tuition, how do people get it so wrong 🙄 Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath🐈👍

[@mikesunboxing]

Yeah very true

[@Gasai1209]

thank you so much man you saved my life

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help

[@llucoste]

HELP please. I did it with a fully assembled PC and followed every step exactly. After clicking the flash button it lit up long and then blinked for a few seconds until it stopped entirely... what could be the problem here? Thanks in advance

[@mikesunboxing]

either it can't read the USB stick or the file is wrong

[@igorgomes7922]

Same...

[@mikesunboxing]

@@igorgomes7922 This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@amy]

Is it safe to assume every board will need to be updated at this point? I just ordered one and the latest (non-beta) version was released November 28

[@mikesunboxing]

i would recommend a bios update before building the pc regardless, there are always fixes and updates

[@thatstreaminbdoee.7985]

Does this exact motherboard, in the Intel version, need a bios update after a fresh build? First-time builder here

[@mikesunboxing]

Dependent on what processor you are using really, but odds are on your favour

[@thatstreaminbdoee.7985]

Pairing it with the i5-12400f !

[@JCTiggs1]

I just tried this and the bios flash has been in progress for over 20 minutes (this MB is for my son, I previously did this on my MB and it only took 5 min). Not sure if it's an issue with the USB stick being an older 2.0 vs 3.0 so that's why it was taking so long? From what I've read it's okay to turn off the power and retry it again since the Flashback option can be used for corrupted BIOS recovery. About to retry it with a USB 3.0 stick to see if that was the issue.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah try it with another USB stick and see how it goes

[@JCTiggs1]

@@mikesunboxing Hi Mike! Just an update, the USB 3.0 stick did the trick and it flashed in about 5 minutes.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad to hear that 🙂@@JCTiggs1

[@offTheTable123]

Hey mike, is it known what the USB differences are to look for in this working/ not working? I bought a USB stick (2.0) today, and am having a similar issue as others where the light flashes for 5ish minutes and then stays solid and never powers off (and doesn't flash the bios). Will get a 3.0 hopefully and report back

[@mikesunboxing]

how did it go?

[@offTheTable123]

@@mikesunboxing a late reply but I turns out both he motherboard and one stick of DDR5 was DOA. It was a bit of a nightmare to debug this with little info to go and and with no signal of DDR5 training taking place but got it sorted. Thanks for the excellent content anyway!

[@mikesunboxing]

@@offTheTable123 Sounds a bit of a nightmare! Glad you got it sorted out 🙂

[@RexTorres]

Sorry for the noob question. But, do you actually need to remove all the components (CPU, GPU, RAM, etc) you installed on the motherboard before performing a flashback?

[@mikesunboxing]

no but it is easier to diagnose if for some reason it doesn't work as it such

[@stngl0815]

THX!

[@MonkeyBabba]

i just tried this on my new build with a 9800X3D and the latest update, it lighted up solid for a few secs then flashed 2-3 times and went off im hoping thats because it has the latest version as i only got the motherboard last week but cant find a date of manufacture.

[@mikesunboxing]

that usually means the drive cant be read or the file is not formatted correctly

[@MonkeyBabba]

@@mikesunboxing yeah sorry for late reply it was because i changed the name of the file or didn't put both files on the stick as when i re did it with a fresh copy i didn't alter anything and it worked fine :)

[@jessiemyers1675]

@@mikesunboxingdoes the .txt file have to be on the file as well or the main chunk that we renamed ?

[@whowhaatwhere]

@@MonkeyBabba what do you mean by "didnt alter anything"? did you still change the name of the file to msi.rom (like in the video) or did you just leave it how it was when you downloaded it? about to buy this mobo for my 9800x3d as well, wanna make sure im not making any mistakes here

[@MonkeyBabba]

@@whowhaatwhere I changed the file name like mike did in the video but the mobo wouldn't recognise it so I re downloaded it and kept both files and original named and it worked perfectly.

[@w.mordergesicht3874]

Hey I hope you can help me. My led is not flashing and is constant on. What should I do?

[@mikesunboxing]

sounds like it cant read the USB stick or the file, double check those first

[@w.mordergesicht3874]

@ it was the usb drive … 2.0 seems to be the best. 1 out of 5 sticks worked. And it was the oldest one :D

[@mikesunboxing]

@@w.mordergesicht3874 Lol! Glad you got it working 🙂

[@Azadkanjo]

Hello Mike, I’m unsure if I have to update my bios. I just bought a computer and assembled It myself, I am pretty sure I assembled it correctly: My cpu: ryzen 7700 with integrated graphics. Motherboard: msi Pro B-650 s wifi 32 gb ram ddr 5 6400mhz (x2 16gb). Hard drive wd m2 1terabyte. When I first turn on the computer, it showed the bios were it did not recognize the m2 hard drive. i reset, and after that never again got image, just the computer being ON, fan working and the 2 red lights on (CPU and DRAM). Do You think I should update the bios? The same Way You showed, renaming to msi.rom? Thanks a lot!

[@mikesunboxing]

that is usually either the ram needs reseating in the slots or the CPU mounting pressure is to high. If you have an nxzt cooler this is likely on too tight

[@Azadkanjo]

@@mikesunboxing thanks for the answer. I decided to give back the hardware to the store and pay the 50$ fee in order to get the computer totally mounted and configured. Just in case I didn’t put the cpu cooler the right way, already too much time spent on this. I thought I could configure the hardware myself but finally I wasn’t able 😅. Kind regards!

[@jtobin1985]

Hi i just ordered this board and the 7800x3d. Do I have to do this before install?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is very likely unless the box says X3D ready