MSR Windburner vs Jetboil MiniMo Stove Comparison

A look at 2 integrated canister stove systems suitable for various adventures, along with footage of a boil time comparison. Stoves compared in this video are: MSR Windburner and Jetboil MiniMo.
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[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

I always light my match/lighter before turning on the gas to 1. Prevent flare ups and 2. Save fuel.

[@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors]

We have a jet boil, we have used it a couple of years now. It is holding up well. I don't really have any complaints about it, It warms water quick enough and I like the way it packs all up into one container. I know MSR makes quality gear and I may one day own one if their tents and stoves, but for now, it is not in the budget. Thanks for sharing this very detailed video. I appreciate you doing this. Keep up the fun videos my friend & have a blessed weekend Dale

[@robalan57]

I think MSR should have went with the push button ignition. The simmer control on the Jetboil is superior.

[@sherbasky]

This was a very helpful video. I have an older Jetboil, but have been curious about the MSR stove. I have been using various MSR Whisperlite stoves for over 30 years. Love the MSR quality! Never had a Whisperlite fail. Thanks for the video!

[@matjobin]

Cheri Schwabenland, I agree. They make a solid product. I've never had an issue with my Whisperlite and this stove has been proving to be the same.

[@jimdarnold]

Very comprehensive comparison. Thanks

[@matjobin]

Jim Arnold, Thanks for watching.

[@praisegod7608]

Thanks a lot ! I was looking for a video like this.. God bless you !😊

[@kenzaleski5198]

Great review but I'm skeptical on fuel usage, you took forever to light each stove after you turned on the fuel. You should be 100% ready to light that burner as soon as its on. The jet boil was hissing away. You didn't even have a match out of the book. That said great video, nicely done showing all the features of each. I'm super tempted by being able to toast a bagel! Cheers!!

[@davidhale1568]

Interesting comparison ive used jet boils since they came out both lasted around five or six years which is ok. I'm about to put the wind burner I bought in a sale last winter into use. It's efficiency that is the most important quality to me. Was surprised to see the wind burner slightly more efficient.

[@matjobin]

David, the Windburner holds a slight edge in my experience, but both are great stoves. Enjoy!

[@Fizbini1]

why not buy a reactor instead then?

[@TheChadWork2001]

Great video Mat. Thanks.

[@tlpoutdoorsman]

I chose the msr as well. Our local fire crews got rid of all their jetboils, they were not holding up, and became dangerous do to it catching fire. Poor at altitude, and wind. Msr 12 thousand feet no problem, better built.

[@MPjustaman]

Funny how when someone comes up a good idea how many people will rip it off. Sure they may have "Researched" and "Designed" or (stoled) the idea from Jetboil, and maid a better design but it doesn't speak well for MSR. Hopefully Jetboil patent the design and have sold it to others for use. Sorry for the rant....still looks like a nice stove and Thank You for the content and review.

[@yomoma751]

Very cool toasting the bagel. I have the original version which was called The Windboiler. Then MSR decided to give it the more sexy name, Windburner. I got it on sale for $99.00, 40 dollars off I believe at the time. :)

[@ScorpiPro]

Think you was a bit unfair here. Ob u like msr so u were leaning against that before u did the test. Minimo is not about being the fastest boiler but the most versatile one for the trip. U can use frying pans make an omelet, stue, nudles, soucages etc. Compare with flash or likewise for boilingtime. Minimo do great in windy conditions too. However thanks for the review I'll make bagle on the minimo next weekend... u know about the pot support right?

[@SpaceExplorer31]

You can cook with any pan on the Windburner with the same adapter that jet boil has.

[@nordmende73]

Thank you!

[@kosta2177]

But with Jetboil you can use any frying pan and MSR requires you to buy their crazy expensive stuff

[@SpaceExplorer31]

For both to use any other pan you need the ring adapter

[@clivenewton7609]

Good review, although bottom line the MSR is a Jetboil knock off with a couple of extra bells and whistles 😂 imho there isn’t enough difference to make the extra money worth it! Whichever stove you have out of these two, buying into the other brand isn’t worth the trouble or expenditure!

[@SpaceExplorer31]

Very big difference in the wind.

[@michaelbutler4961]

Thank you for the review. I like the head to head boil times and with fuel consumption. I have the MSR and was thinking about the Jetboil. Guess I'll be staying with the MSR for a complete cook set. I also have the pocket rocket2, along with a couple MSR white gas stoves. There are times I like alcohol where I have a White Box Alcohol Stove, Trangia Spirit Burner. I think I have a love for these small stoves, I have many and several I have not mentioned LoL

[@matjobin]

Thanks for watching Michael Butler and for your feedback. I'm glad you found this video useful. Few stoves can compete with the white gas stoves once the temp REALLY drops. I've always noticed a lot of integrated systems on thru hikes and shorter trips on the trail. They can be a great option. Complete with all you need and often little fuss. I've had great experiences with the Pocket Rocket 2 also, along with the Snow Peak Lite Max, Firebox Nano and some homemade alcohol stoves. Each cook system choice relies on varying factors for my trips and ultimately my goal. Very rarely will I forgo carrying something. It's hard to pass up on a nice warm meal at camp after a long day. Keep enjoying the stoves!

[@oppy2002]

The spoon angle is greater in the Windburner making it more difficult to eat out of it.

[@matjobin]

It is Joel. I don't cook and eat out of it often, so I don't have any trouble with it. I've found my long handled bamboo spoon to work well when I do though.

[@YulRun]

I know you said you love the handle on the msr, how does it work out though? Is there some sort of heat deflection so you can still hold the pot while its hot?

[@ahamilton1305]

Do MSR make a stove with simmer control? thanks

[@High_Desert_Tanner]

I just got a new Minimo for $85... Couldn't pass it up

[@aluminiumsloep]

If Piezo breaks it will be just as perfect as one without...

[@jamesrogers4674]

Catalytic heater's and stoves are sensitive to dust and contaminants. Don't think I would toast many bagels like that.

[@normanmallory2055]

220 gram ctg is 7.7 oz of blended fuel @$0.79 per oz. white gas is $0.09 per oz... But above and beyond all that after my tent is set up , I want to cook dinner, have coffee and eat.. Preheat a white gas stove is really not a big deal to me it's very easy.. I've kept track of how long a 220 gram ctg will run on trips out, into the 5th day easily , so that's pretty darn good.. I've done the same with two of my white gas stoves ,one 22 oz bottle of white gas and I get into 5 days using it each day.. I do enjoy my Snow Peak Ti model which falls in at 2.5 oz.. This summer I may pick up a Jetboil model, in my lifetime I only own 9 stoves so I could have one more..

[@harrymckenzie3725]

Thanks for the review. I've got a question. I'm now carrying my zippo plus a can of zippo fuel, along with my cooking set (I smoke the occasional cigarette so I need a lighter. I'd love it if a system would exist which includes the possibility to refill a (gas)lighter with the stove system, as to avoid having to carry the extra lighter fuel. Are you aware if such an option exists? Thanks

[@johnvidal70]

Any white gas stove will fit the bill.

[@harrymckenzie3725]

@@johnvidal70 Thanks I'm going to look into this

[@cbdancer]

Nice Review. Have you used the MSR Whisperlite Universal? If So, which do you like best between the Windburner and Whisperlite?

[@matjobin]

Thank you Chuck Brown. I have and own that stove too. Each has their benefits and drawbacks. I've been very happy with both. For winter trips below single digits, snow melt and large groups, the Whisperlite and liquid fuel are indispensable. The option to use a canister too is a nice addition to an already well-performing stove. The stove and cook system can end up being heavy for backpacking though and require extra maintenance (possibly even field repair). For other trips and when the wind is a factor, I appreciate the efficiency, simplicity and cooking capability of the Windburner. Though finding canisters can be difficult depending on the trip location, requiring additional logistics. On many 3-season trips, I'll typically go with an alcohol stove system (even more so on a long distance trip).

[@OleOlson]

I have the Whisperlite International, and used it for about 15 years with no issues. I really like how inexpensive the fuel is for it and convenience of use, but am considering switching to the Windburner system just to cut down on pack weight and bulk, as it eliminates the need for a nested cookware set.

[@joekelly9369]

i wouldnt use any high rise stoves , get ground level stoves , these things need a support in high windy mountainous sreas .. ground level stoves are much.better . no need to build a rockery around them to keep them upright .a real pain .

[@kwmh]

Hi, may I know anyone try to put 1L MSR pot on Jetboil stove or versus ? Thanks

[@normanmallory2055]

MSR brought out the Reactor 10 years back , I only knew one hiker that had one, seems it came with 2.5L pot.. Jetboil did well I thought couple fellows I hike with bought them.. I have not yet bought one.. I own 3 stoves made by Snow Peak at the current time , 2 blended fuel , one white gas... Cold weather I really fall back to my MSR DragonFly more than any other stove I own .. Optimus 8-R and Svea 123 that are now 50 years old plus and I still take them out for run couple times a year..Blended fuel has came a long way over the years and is very good fuel.. In winter months I've used either one of my canister stoves with the can off the cold ground , worked fine.. I have a heat exchanger from the 1960's that fits a 1.5 qt pot, cuts boil time, so they do work.. Well done..

[@matjobin]

Norman Mallory, Thanks for watching! It sounds like you've had some great experiences with your stove choices over the years. Though stoves have become lighter and more efficient in the last few years, you just can't beat an ol' trusted one.

[@normanmallory2055]

@@matjobin MSR brought out the XGK some years back , I bought one in 1990, true power house , doesn't simmer which I knew but for winter trips of melting snow and larger pots of water it's great.. It has never failed to work..

[@Rocko6716]

i have the windburner msr 1.0l the burner wont light how do I remove the top part to get to the control; under it

[@matjobin]

bbq10, I'm sorry to hear that. I would contact MSR to see if they can help. I've always had great service from them in the past if I ever had an issue. You can find their contact info at this link: www.cascadedesigns.com Good luck!

[@jkarasta1]

Make the video 5 minute...idk too many that have 30 min to research ways to boil water

[@johnsutter6786]

Newbie here, why do you switch the liquid fuel below 15°F?

[@matjobin]

John Sutter I switch it because the canisters can be affected greatly by temperature. The canisters contain compressed blends of gases that vaporize and feed the flame to the stove. Internal pressure in the canister keeps most in liquid form while a small amount vaporizes and turns to gas as it leaves the canister to the stove. The canisters internal pressure needs to be greater than the pressure outside in order for it to work. If the temp drops too much the liquid in the canister won't vaporize to gas. Along with outside temp, the canister also cools as the stove is in use so it is best to do what you can to keep the canister warm so it can operate properly. Altitude can affect canisters too. Liquid fuel like white gas works well in cold temps. Hope this helps.

[@johnsutter6786]

Mat Jobin Thank you. Makes sense.

[@Petrbrain]

Hi have you tried to use pot support from jetboil on MSR?? I would be really interested to see how that works!

[@exergyone7164]

It works perfectly. That's the solution I went with. It gets hot quite rapidly so you must keep paying attention.

[@kelumV]

There are wayy cheaper options out there to do the same thing probably with lot more options. Something that I never understood about these comparisons where they trying to prove which one is the fastest.. not tell me if someone out wild is it matters whether it took 2:30min vs 3 min.. are you running Olympics 100m or what

[@matjobin]

kelum321 There absolutely are many other options out there that are both lower in cost and lighter. Everything has its benefits and drawbacks though. While some of those lower priced options may be just that, they could have the tradeoffs of lower reliability, performance and efficiency. That said, one of my favorite stoves I have been impressed and happy with on the trail for many trips over the last few years has been the mixed reviewed $16 BRS 3000T stove. In response to your question about the comparison, for me a stove would depend on my goals and objectives for with a trip. Sometimes the faster boil time can be beneficial at a racing event (though many may forego and just cold soak), but the shorter boil time can also help with less time spent for breaks or time needed at camp. It would also be more efficient with fuel usage allowing for that extra full cup boil vs others when it might matter between resupply points or other instances. Again with the BRS stove I mentioned, I'm not setting any boil time records but knowing and seeing how long it may take a stove to reach a boil might be important to some. I also would need a windscreen or wind block in many cases with the BRS vs a stove like the Windburner or Jetboil.

[@area51xi]

No 30 seconds does not matter at all but when you are comparing different items you have to be quantitative.

[@TRAT0R]

I'm watching your video I like the comparison but I'm just watching thinking this guy is gunna loose his eyebros or more or cause an explosion with the amount if fule wasted im glad you arent in a enclosed place.

[@broddireyrhansen1297]

Do these stoves need some special canisters?

[@matjobin]

Broddi Reyr Hansen, Not at all. Various branded isobutane propane canisters can be used with these stoves as long as they use a lindal valve. MSR, Jetboil, Coleman, Snow Peak, GSI Outdoors and Primus would all be good options.

[@semco72057]

Those small stoves are too expensive and then there is the cost of the refill burner containers to go along with the original cost. I will stay with the system I already have and if I make a fire out of my area then I won't do any cooking at all.

[@carljlockley]

cool story bro.

[@Namesi]

@@carljlockley why don't you go take a nice long walk off a real short pier.

[@Whachadoon]

It’s worth it because you can’t exactly have a fire anywhere whenever you want and I think having food is important lol

[@country13067]

Someone copied someone else design

[@tomlucas4788]

What are your thoughts about the MSR duo ?

[@matjobin]

Tom Lucas, It performs similarly to the smaller system featured in this video, even with the remote fuel line. In my opinion it would be a bit excessive for one hiker, but for two, groups or melting a lot of snow it could be a good option. Definitely larger systems out there, but the Duo blends size, efficiency and performance nicely.

[@tomlucas4788]

I thought it might just be more stable not sitting on the canister

[@matjobin]

Tom Lucas, I haven’t had any issues with stability while using the stove. It’s pretty solid and secure.

[@theairsoftsloth4801]

What use is that little spoon thing haha

[@WastingTimeInTheWoods]

Great video. I bought a Micromo last season and love it. I did a little review on it as well - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gISmp2OPl9Wtnsk Great job and thanks for the info!

[@steves3760]

You're concerned about extra weight but you have basically a full burner infrared stove? 🤪

[@OleOlson]

My stove is much lighter than either, but I also have to add the weight of a nested cookware set, so either Windburner or the Jetboil would actually cut down on weight and bulk.

[@CosgroveNotts]

Too much fannying with wind burner

[@Hockeyfan9884]

Just toss some aluminum foil tightly over the jetboil and the winner of the race is jetboil as well as giving m.s.r 25 seconds head start. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁

[@igorkorneichuk1139]

little bit yeah. The difference between them is so litle. I like jetboil

[@DennisMathias]

Wow. Modern technology..and we're using flint and steel. Whaaat?

[@briani7858]

if youre referring to his "fire steel" its not flint and steel. its a Ferrocerium rod. Pretty space age tech and more reliable at producing a spark than matches or lighter in tough weather. the problem with them however is getting whatever youre burning to light in those situations. its handy to have and almost weightless, may as well have a small one.

[@-joo3033]

I really want An Msr Windburner... But its 140€...a Jetboil Zip would be 75€...i will propably get cheap 50€ set...

[@matjobin]

Jorkki, Nothing wrong with a lower cost cooking system. I have had great success with many other systems too.

[@-joo3033]

@@matjobin 3 years later im no longer a student with no money , ill have an MSR windburner next week.

[@jm4672]

$135 for that little stove way too expensive I like those little teeny things you can get for like $14 you just screwed on the top and damn I mean for $14 compared to 135 because it looks nice and send a canister I much rather well I just don't have a lot of money maybe that's it anyway I Love

[@TheRambler11]

John, you have a valid point, however, the difference really comes to wind. In fair weather a typical canister stove performs just fine and only takes a minute or two longer on average. IF you add in a wind factor, its like nothing even happens to the windburner and the times stay almost the same. Try that with a typical canister stove and you can easily add 4-8 minutes to your boil time if not more, sometimes even blowing the stove out entirely.Even though you aren't supposed to you can use a windscreen provided you understand how to do so and still be safe with a canister stove, or use any number of things as a wind break at a minimum. The windburner will definitely earn its price point if you often find yourself out in all manner of elements, and exposed to winds such as peak bagging or above tree line. If your just doing weekend adventures, or a trip here and there it likely isn't worth the cost.

[@lastname3924]

The true difference is quality. Get a flash for 100$ fucking amazing water boiler. Oats coffee teas etc

[@StevenKeery]

@@lastname3924 : The young people watching for hints and tips on camping, could probably do without your additional swearing.

[@lastname3924]

@@StevenKeery Without fucking, the kids wouldn't exist and therefore wouldn't be looking for tips and tricks. Stop being so sheltered.

[@StevenKeery]

@@lastname3924 : We all excrete too, that doesn't mean to say we have to read about it in a comment section on stove reviews. Did you talk to your Mother in that manner?

[@AverageReviewsYT]

All that money and it doesent self ignite. Lol that's a 🖕🏽 in my book. Imma laugh as I'm buying the competitors brand. Seriously.. It's like a joke to them