ABH Subculture Review & Demo

[@5050TM]

In case you were wondering, in short: Stephanie enjoys the palette, but she would not exactly recommend because the reviews are so polarizing. She recommends you go to the store and test!

[@sweetninitagalli907]

tank you girl for real some comments are stating that Stephanie hates it and i´am gonna quote `` if you blend the shades gonna turn grey`` and i was like WTF did we saw the same video ???

[@sulamusuamba8667]

Morte Faery thanks you've saved me for having to watch the whole video

[@Talon007]

With the palette you cannot blend out the colors but if you layer and pack on the colors they aren't so bad.

[@sax1286]

the reviews shouldn't affect her opinion though x I mean, its obvious that lots of them were for views and to ironically develop 'honesty' in their channels

[@fairday2]

Thank you for this suggestion. It is about 3 hrs to get to Ulta, and about the same to get to Sephora in the opposite direction. But, I do like the colors you showed, and may try it.

[@WayneGoss]

I honestly could not love you anymore ... you are just perfection and your reviews are amazing xxxx

[@elainebines6803]

Wayne Goss - Stephanie educates and never does this ' you must have blah blah blah' never tries to 'sell' a product or EVER makes false claims about herself or what she is talking about. Also has a moderator to ensure no bullying goes on and for that, i commend her 😘

[@_PrincessMaggot]

Wayne I've been looking for your channel for ages and finally found you through your comment! :D

[@TracyAmor]

I love you both.

[@TF-vc8gk]

This is like the gold stamp of approval. WG in the flesh!!!

[@rachwilliams7971]

Well said Wayne!! I’ve learnt a lot from you both. And am very appreciative of that.

[@meepmoopmeep1]

THANK YOU for pointing out what happens to complimentary colors when you mix them. I was yelling at my screen when I saw youtubers mix purple and yellow and then complain when they turn brown.

[@Figgatella]

This especially is gonna happen with almost pure pigment!

[@alicemiller2565]

I saw the red turn purple when mixed with gold or yellow though to be fair

[@staceya7870]

meepmoopmeep1 I know right?! Especially when a makeup artist doesnt know why two complementary colors turn gray (or muddy) when blended together 🙈! I guess, as someone who grew up in art, I assumed artists in general knew basic color theory. My bad I guess?? 😂

[@mintpatcharaorn9845]

meepmoopmeep1 I know right ! It's like they never play with water color when they were young..

[@angelaviary444]

lot of these beauty influencers need to take an art class thats for sure.

[@PlugInKali]

In my opinion, ABH made a mistake when they marketed this as the "sister palette" of Modern Renaissance. People immediately would assume the formula and application to be the same. They should have used other colours that were less "temperamental", and save these shades for a new palette, not related to MR, with a new ultra-soft formula and ultra-intense pigments, and prepare customers beforehand about how to apply them to get the best results. In any case, thank you so, so much for giving such a detailed explanation of how to properly use shadows as soft as these and about product manufacturing. As usual, it's incredibly helpful hearing opinions as honest and knowledgable as yours :)

[@ginao6810]

I Agree! This whole drama could have been avoided it the pallet was marketed correctly!

[@mcpowers26]

PlugInKali first negative comment I've agreed with all day lol

[@hinarutilivestream]

PlugInKali sisters aren't the same, twins are. They said SISTERS. Doesn't mean the same!

[@Enirutas]

SISTER does not mean TWIN, simply that they're related. :)

[@caitlynosborne2778]

Sisters are generally SIMILAR to each other, thus why the majority of people had assumed that the application and formula would at least be similar. They literally said that it was just supposed to be the night version of the Modern Renaissance which at very least insinuates that it is supposed to be similar. Which it definitely is not, it's an entirely different formula. The only thing that could even be similar is the god damn packaging.

[@darklausal23]

I love your reviews because they are very detailed and balanced, you point out good and bad points, down to price comparison and ingredients. We all know you are very honest and appreciate it, thanks for all you do.

[@lorrainejohnsoncoleman1670]

It looks like I am first one here. I love your professional, honest and informative videos. I have been waiting for this review but I am glad that you don't jump out there with first impressions but take time to be thorough. I love ABH and own every pallet but despite all the info I think you have to try it yourself and purchase from somewhere you can return. I am light handed with touch and very skilled in application but I also don't believe you should have to have an advanced degree to use some damn eyeshadow

[@sarapocorn]

Lorraine Johnson-Coleman Completely agree! However I live in Switzerland and while yes, we get testers, also from foundation shades, we can't return cosmetics once opened 😔 I have wasted so much money and am so thankful for videos like this ❤️

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

Lorraine Johnson-Coleman exactly. I think the looseness and high level of pigment requires a very light hand and a lot of time and patience. I don't think the average consumer really operates that way. It seems like this palette would be for special occasions only. But if you are selling to the masses you need to take all of that into consideration.

[@quannistar]

Thats exactly what I was saying. I'm not holding this pallets hand just to get it to perform correctly. It should have come with a big disclaimer: Too soft to apply with a fluffy brush. Must be gentle or risk hitting pan.

[@quannistar]

I know everyone said that this was the review they were waiting for but I dont think they actually watched the video before commenting. She said exactly what everyone who hated the pallet said, "The pallet has a ton of fallout, the shadows are soft and dont blend well, if blended they will turn grey on the eye, and they cannot be touched hard." So based on that this pallet is still a no for me.

[@smartlikewoah]

Completely agree. People are too quick to say that the ones that didn't like it are just hating or can't do makeup, but I honestly do believe there were some batch problems or something. And like you said it's just eyeshadow, so we shouldn't have to treat it like it's a nuclear bomb that we have to be super careful with. No one should act like the ones who didn't like this palette don't have valid reasons for disliking it. That's just my opinion though.

[@didyousaymiku]

the amount of times someone has told me "wait for stephanie nicole's review" when i mentioned wanting the subculture palette is rly outstanding (i heard it definitely more than 8 times) and now i'm excited to finally watch it 😂

[@didyousaymiku]

also i am definitely the "leader of the asshole brigade" 😭😭😂

[@camillemedina5323]

I watched all 38mins of this and I dont even wear eyeshadow.

[@KawaiiPlaysTV]

lmao you da real mvp.

[@nobs6619]

camille medina girl me too

[@facesofpreachersd2r112]

Right?! I've been a pro for over 20 yrs and love Steph!

[@MiaStar]

I'm not sure I ever even heard of the brand until this palette took over Reddit (which basically is right around the time I joined to join the makeup subs, it seems) but I like this girl's review style

[@chandeepkaur9505]

camille medina same lol 😂

[@DramaticMac]

I feel like the whole KZbin world has been waiting for your review! Living for the indept review got my snacks ready!

[@christineanderson4147]

Yassssssss. The video KZbin's beauty community has been waiting for! Explain this palette, cause we have no idea what's happening.

[@rosiellagrace]

Christine Anderson LOL, right?! I keep seeing people who are very adamant about their stances, though; I've been waiting for this to simply link because trying to explain something just is not that easy in this community, as you probably know! 😹😹

[@ximena5794]

at least the emotionally mature community... the drama seeking one has plenty of material..

[@jennahernandez624]

That's why they say if you're a makeup artist and you know what you're doing, you can make anything work !! Love you❤️

[@MsStephNic]

Jenna Hernandez thank you. But I'm no makeup artist ❤️

[@jada4622]

Jenna Hernandez there are some make-up artist who don't like this palette, doesn't mean their bad at makeup

[@YogiWitch]

Stephanie Nicole With how educated you sounded about color theory and pigments, as well as your technique with making different types of shadows work, whether it is your profession or not, I would consider you a makeup artist, because you truly showed us art with this palette when it couldn't work for others. This palette worked for me so well that I couldn't understand why people were having issues with it, but this review/demo was so helpful it even helped me understand the palette even more. Thank you! ♡

[@Myeyeofthebeholder]

Jenna Hernandez shouldnt have to make it work. Maybe dollar tree makeup .. Yeah make that work. .. But abh? No shouldnt have to make it work. Another thing. Its missing many important ingredients.

[@mizrainmedellin]

i think all those people or beauty gurus are not true makeup artist glad this palette is exposing them hehe

[@nicoledickerson9516]

Stephanie Nicole.... I'm very impressed with how you handled the review of this palette. Very professional and mature. I feel your point is accurate that people apply shadows differently and enjoy different degrees and variations of pigment, color, and softness. I have been annoyed so many times watching reviews from people who do not understand this concept and call palettes bad due to preference. I'm personally not purchasing the palette because the colors aren't my preference. Your business sensibilities ( as I can see how you answer commenters without inserting your own feelings,as well as answering with respect even when it's not given on the commenters side)and logical thinking are commendable. I can see why so many trust you with such evaluations. Good job girl!

[@unfairlovely9945]

Guess there is such a thing as "TOO PIGMENTED" Never thought the day would come when people would be disappointed with a product for being too pigmented.

[@MsStephNic]

Unfair & Lovely I agree. Too much of a good thing sometimes

[@michita7838]

I imagine this palette being like pure pigments. They are usually harder to use, but if you know how to use them, they are beautiful.

[@vcr6854]

Unfair & Lovely lol, right? Be careful what you ask for lol. Not everyone is always happy...

[@MonetNWashington]

This is the first review I've ever watched of yours. It was so awesome to see you give such a thorough review. Lots of times, influencers will talk about ingredients, formula, and color theory and not know what they're talking about. Your videos are a breath of fresh air, and I will definitely be subscribing!!

[@bendietrees]

Monet Washington agreed

[@nicolecaravella3976]

All gurus are ripping into subculture when giving their opinions and saying how much they dislike it but many reviewing the KKW contour sticks mention subpar qualities about it but justify them and still say they recommend it... hmmm

[@jordancuffie5324]

Nicole Caravella but isn't that what SN just did in this video too? No hate just a question. I think that different gurus are going to try to justify a bad product for whatever reason that may be.

[@JKat94]

Nicole Caravella i love you for that comment 😂

[@Michelle-zh4rx]

Nicole Caravella epic!! That is the end all statement there!

[@amandaw1136]

Nicole Caravella Right?!! Amen!!

[@StarWarsThrowbacks]

Nicole Caravella "gurus"

[@brittanyharden9210]

People are expecting SN to bash this palette and because she isn't apparently she's being disingenuous?? This was the most thorough review I've seen on KZbin stating both the pros and cons whilst also sharing the best techniques on how to apply these shadows. I don't see why there's so much hate? With the information given you choose for yourself if the palette is right for you or not. I don't understand why people are so upset ....? This was the best review I've seen thus far.

[@MsStephNic]

Brittany Harden mob mentality. I knew I'd be better off "hating" it. But that wasn't honest. I'll never apologize for my honest opinions ❤️ thank you Brittany

[@sarahs7373]

You know she's gonna go IN when it's 40 minutes long. Love how thorough you are stef I'm excited for this. I was gonna order on the Sephora release saw but I realized I need ur opinion in combination with a few other bloggers I trust before I spend my money.

[@lyndsey5358]

although I have watched a million reviews of this, yours is the ONLY one I've been waiting for. I trust your reviews so much

[@makeupfabulousness4736]

Great review as always Stef. I think the reason many find you trustworthy is not only because of your definitive opinion but also because you have first hand knowledge of the process from working in the beauty industry. Everytime I watch your reviews, I learn something new and that makes all the difference.

[@mariacasella979]

I've seen at least 5 demos and reviews on this palette ..but your the first one who has applied the shadows this way and picking up the colors from the brush to the eye..thank you for your expertise...very good review...your very detailed Idk why you don't have surpassed into the millions in subs ..you are so goood!!!much deserved for sure

[@MsStephNic]

Maria Casella thanks for watching Maria!

[@jacquelinecooper7671]

I think this is the best review I've seen on Subculture yet. I appreciate all of the thought, time and reference material that you put into this. I'm not an artist (makeup or otherwise), so learning just a bit about the color wheel and theory was fascinating. Your knowledge about talc vs mica, cost break down and everything else proves to me that you did your research. I had no idea how pigments work, about the use of binders, etc and how that will effect performance. I think you're right, that it's impossible to give a responsible recommendation, it will come down to the individual and their preferences. I won't be purchasing this palette simply because I don't feel that I am experienced enough in makeup application to not make a mess of it. Again, thank you Stephanie for putting the time and effort into this review.

[@arlenec9496]

Jacqueline Cooper you should also check out jkissa and atteely (i know i mispelt that) they do more than one look and they looked gorgeous!!!

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

AHHHH!!! I've never clicked so fast in my life!! Who else has been waiting for this with such anticipation?! 🙋🏽

[@hannahzoe8249]

Perfectly You Beauty yup! Me

[@marypb8047]

Perfectly You Beauty ✋️

[@kristinesino5483]

Did the same thing! Clicked so fast, I don't even know how long this would be.

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

It seems like you have to really go with an extremely light hand and watch which colors you combine... definitely not for a quick look. Seems like you have to slow down and take a lot of time.

[@Scratchync]

Hannah Zoé , SAME!!💖💖💖

[@MrsCurioCheerio]

Everyone was waiting for this video to come through 😂😂

[@s.t2240]

MrsCurioCheerio I know! You know her review will be good!

[@Neitherherenorthere29]

MrsCurioCheerio i haven't watched anyone's...i was waiting for hers. Actually was looking for it last night.

[@alicewwonderland1860]

I only watched Alyssa Ashley and Too much Mouth. But i really wanted to see Stephanies

[@kimyerim7012]

MrsCurioCheerio HONESTLY

[@Andrew-cd1sc]

yeah now i know it IS the beauty gurus and their lack of skills x

[@edwardlovrr]

Personally I think it was a marketing flaw. Norvina even states in the video subculture is like the sister of modern renaissance and that the palette is creamy and blendable. She should have marketed towards makeup artists who know about complementary colors and pure** pressed pigments, because the way it was portrayed, like an average consumer myself I would think it would be easy to blend and use like the modern renaissance palette (which I own and adore).

[@ressydm1]

Day and Night are not the same. The sun is up in day and the moon is up at night. I think some people think "sisters" mean they should be the same. NO. If you have a sister, you would know what I mean. My sisters and I are very different from each other in look and style and attitude. I don't get why some would think sisters mean "the same" - very distinctly different.

[@Noralet101]

I have to disagree with you. Sister palette at least means it is related in some way. And since it's not the colors, it's kinda expected to be the formula. I agree with you edwardlovrr, that it was a marketing issue. Make people aware of how this is supposed to be used and they will not complain that it's not working.

[@roelin360]

@@ressydm1 then if they are supposed to be distinctly different, why even call it a sister pallet? What does sister pallet even mean in this case? It seems as though you're implying that term means nothing.

[@doeeyedfaun4020]

Even in the first 3 minutes you are so practical and lay it out how makeup is subjective! And not every product can be applied the same way. Love you and your channel so much!

[@sakotsuku]

I love and depend on your reviews. They're everything I need and want in a review. Thank you Steph!

[@elizabethortiz3602]

I used the palette last night and I went in with a light tap and it worked just fine. The only issue i had was with electric blending away. But i still liked the palette!! And I'm glad it worked for you!!

[@elle1009]

I did the same - 2nd look I created with this palette, but I WILL say because I was purposely going in so light handed, it took me about 20 times to get the color just right on my lid. This is not a palette that is good for a quick look. It's unfortunate though because I have about 40 palettes and I don't have to treat any of them any differently in the way I put my brush in the shadows and they blend out perfectly. Many of these shades cannot be blended and that's a huge issue whether or not the fallout is an issue. Such a disappointment overall though.

[@danajohnson3348]

Electric is just one of those shadows that needs a finger application. It is gorgeous if you dampen your finger with water or fix plus and just tap it on. So worth the little extra effort.

[@Karenfranco25]

Some of you just crack me up. You say you trust Stephanie and her opinion until it's not what you agree with. Just because your favorite youtubers hated it, doesn't mean they're right and everyone else is lying. She always gives the most informative and honest reviews on products and she even said she doesn't recommend you buy it until you go in and try it yourself. Thank you Stephanie for another great review.

[@missesmis-s.d8305]

Girl exactly. just because I like a youtuber doesn't not mean I blindly follow everything they say. Everyone's skin and application is different, what works for a youtuber may not work for them. I also notice that people prefer youtubers to trash products instead of liking them, it's like they get a kick out of them bashing a product. They also think any good reviews are fake. It could be fake, but on the other hand some youtubers make really negative reviews on popular/trending products just to get views. It's a mess.

[@MsStephNic]

Karen Franco THANK YOU! I would've been better off saying I hated it, but I'm not going to lie. I knew I was going to get shit, but it's ok. Can't please everyone. I don't even want to try. It's exhausting 😂

[@justicehayes4715]

People are idiots.

[@nikki_topasmr9043]

Karen Franco exactly my thoughts

[@fiblithary]

Karen Franco 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@TheRene0919]

Thank you, Stephanie for your honest, unbiased review. Your knowledge is rarely matched in the KZbin community. Love, love, love, your honesty and your inability to be " bought" by PR freebies. Keep on with yo bad self! Love you!

[@harper6829]

YES THE ONE REVIEW OF THIS PALLET I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

[@evamnpr]

Watching this video actually made me WANT to buy this palette and that's the VERY FIRST TIME I have ever felt persuaded by a youtuber's take on an eyeshadow palette. I always feel extremely frustrated with having to brush my goddamn eyelids' skin away with most shadows + not getting a good amount of color by just touching the eyeshadow, so this is beautiful to see! I'm aware that this is likely not the way most people feel but it sounds like heaven to have a "responsive" eyeshadow as opposed to having to swirl the shit out of it + brush the shit out of my eyelids.

[@TanyaFeifel]

I just wanted to say I absolutely love your channel! I've had a few subscribers tell me about you and how much they trust both of us in our reviews and how we're so often on the same page. I had to come check you out today and I've been binge watching your videos (when I should be filming and editing lol). I just love your honesty and no nonsense reviews (like so many other KZbinrs). You truly are a breath of fresh air, Stephanie. I respect you more than any other KZbinr and I know that I can trust you. Yes, makeup and skin care are different for everyone and works differently for everyone, but there are so many people who create drama for no reason and just do things on their channels for money and views and it sickens me because their subscribers look up to them for guidance and stand behind their word. I know you know what I mean. I'm so grateful for your channel and I wish that millions of people were aware of you and watching you for LEGIT advice and recommendations. Someone with integrity, wit, intelligence, passion, and beauty. I just had to comment. New subbie and viewer for life. Thank you for what you're doing and keeping it real. I know my subscribers and myself both really appreciate it 💗.

[@prettienini]

So I tweeted "why is everyone taking Stephanie Nicole's word as end all be all" and you replied "because I'm the most amazing person that ever lived.... duh 😬 totally joking" lmao. And now I see why ppl come to ur videos. U were sooooo thorough. I enjoyed this video. I can't wait until my store (I work at ulta) gets this so I can try the tester before I make a purchase.

[@MsStephNic]

Anisha Renee I was jk being a smart ass. But thank you for watching & giving me a chance 😉❤️

[@88freedomwriter]

Stephanie, I always appreciate your reviews! I think I know where ABH messed up. It wasn't in product, but in expectations. I own a business, and the biggest thing I can do to prevent disappointed customers is to manage expectations for the products and experience. ABH decided to sale the idea of the Subculture palette as a "sister" to Modern Renaissance. People got the the palette expecting it to work and act similarly to MR, and it doesn't. That doesn't mean it is bad, but they are not the same. You made a point that you can't build color with this like you do with other palettes. I regularly build color with the MR, and have no issues. Had I purchased this palette on launch (which I considered doing, but forgot), I would have assumed, based on MR, that I could do the same. I think that has lead a lot of people to not know how to use this palette. (Though, not sure why anyone would swirl a ABH palette. I find touching works fine.) I digress, ABH should have released videos discussing the very soft packing and color payout, since it is different than MR. They should have had plenty of videos showing the best way to blend/diffuse colors. As you pointed out, they muddy when they are mixed. That is something else ABH could have explained to prepared customers to have a better, more educated experience. Getting that information across platforms, so that as many people as possible would have known, may have helped with the issues they are having now. I do think, even if it lessens pigment, packing the shadows harder will help the average makeup user enjoy the experience more and create a more mainstream-friendly palette. At the end of the day, even if a product is good, a client not knowing how to use it can ruin the experience.

[@shana4806]

88freedomwriter yes, well said. 🙌🏼

[@fmungs7382]

Finally someone that speak with intelligence 👏🏼

[@rosiellagrace]

88freedomwriter I agree, they probably should have explained that it's not a twin type sister, just a sister and people wouldn't have had these expectations.. that being said, this is one palette I absolutely wanted to get when it launched, but I have to wait til the holidays and I'm super disappointed that they're appeasing the masses to make it a more average / mainstream friendly palette. I don't get to splurge a lot, so every single palette takes experimenting to figure out how best to work them, but if these shadows aren't made to be hard pressed, they shouldn't be. Everything is changed when the masses aren't happy on IG these days, when the original product IS good it's just not made for the average bear.

[@alanaelectra7737]

88freedomwriter thank you so fucking much

[@hialyssah]

oh man the bit about ABH releasing how this one differs with its formulation, pigmentation, and how it works, etc. etc. would have been such a good idea.... had it been done at the start! :( but unfortunately (as the comments on this video suggests) if they do that now, they'll only receive even more backlash. since people take it as an insult on their makeup application and skills.

[@vimcho]

Hi Stephanie, I trust you and love the way you present your thoughts and you are so educated in this area. I hope you can help me. I am 46 year old medium skinned black hair brown eyes Indian woman. I haven't used eye shadow and don't own any palettes. If I could buy one or two basic ones, which would you recommend?

[@daxxark1165]

vimcho Anastasia Modern Renaissance (ironically) it's one of her favourite pallets

[@elliearr96]

vimcho the modern renaissance is amazing, and if you can get juvia's place they're really good for an affordable price

[@DIVAGIRL10101]

vimcho hi I know you didn't ask for my opinion, but I watched this youtuber who sounds a lot like you and she raved about the too faced chocolate bar palette! I'm a medium African American woman and just fell in love with sleek makeup products at ulta. Very pigmented and soft, not powdery shadows and they were under the $15 mark. If you like stiffer shadows I'd try the bh cosmetics bronze paradise palette. Depends if you like mattes or shimmers more

[@aoifek9709]

abh modern renaissance!!

[@vanessasanchez3458]

Hi! I know I'm not Stephanie but I tend to do makeup on my mom often and she's very fond of the naked 3 palette. However for someone your skin color maybe the tartlette in bloom palette or the chocolate bar. If you're looking for more affordable eyeshadow nyx are always the best in my opinion. Some palettes from nyx that you can try are the ultimate multi finish or ultimate shadow palette.

[@jessicamelisa5762]

I've been watching you for some time now, and I would just like to tell you that I appreciate how knowledgeable you are when it comes to cosmetics. You give the best most in depth reviews I have ever seen and it really helps the viewer understand what they're paying for. Thank you for that !! 💗 in my eyes you explained what abh was going for instead of blindly bashing the palette due to the fall out.

[@gabrielalvinvaughan]

I love how you mentioned the color theory aspect and how when you mix the complimenting colors then it turns to a shadowy gray. I also love how you mentioned that it's a matter of preference in how you apply shadows.

[@sudy444]

I'm not a makeup artist, but I love makeup and ABH it didn't take a brain scientist to understand that this palette is a little different. I love the shades. I just didn't understand that Norvina would compare it to MR because it's totally different, the only thing the same is the packaging. Thank you for your thoughts on this. I'm so glad someone like you takes the time to give better information on this.💜

[@kasandraferguson2806]

I love that note about mixing complementary colors! I'm and artist and watching influencers put on opposite colors together and say "ugh it's getting so muddy, this palette is bad!" is so frustrating.

[@MrHamster34]

Kasi Precisely! I, too, do painting in canvass. Mixing complementary colors is the basic of color mixing. I wonder why some people who are using makeup don't know about this.

[@aldyer101]

Kasi Right? And then they tell their subscribers not to buy it because they don't know basic color theory.

[@karargyri]

It's so frustrating that people who don't understand (or pretend they don't understand) basic color principles are influencers.

[@Shyvic]

i think it's because some colors on opposites of color wheel can look good together in other pallet and the muddy effect can be avoided easier. in subculture it gets muddy quickly

[@angelaviary444]

that and they don't even try different application techniques. seems like the only ones who can make "bad" palettes work are those with a background in art.

[@tammyz8566]

Can always count on Stephanie for an educated and unbiased review.Since watching her channel I no longer waste money on products that don't perform.Her "drama free" approach is so refreshing.Thank you Stephanie,I so appreciate you!!!

[@spishcadet]

Ok can I just say I love you for dropping in the color theory knowledge? I'm by no means a makeup artist but I am a painter and I was screaming "CHROMATIC GREY" at some of the reviews.

[@mszflirtz]

How many people were waiting for this? Damn.

[@nicolemendoza5313]

T LK A LOT

[@x0xdaniella1]

T LK since freakin last night !!!

[@tanyax0x]

YES!

[@joe_gacek]

since she posted about it on instagram

[@enriqueashleyhernandez7182]

Me

[@stephanielima1088]

This review made me so happy. I bought this palette as soon as it launched. I used it immediately when it was delivered and I really like it. Then all the negative reviews started coming and I just thought I had to be crazy or there was some kind of conspiracy to shade ABH. Hahaha! Then, hearing you talk about how you pack on and then blend I realized that must be it. I apply shadow the same way because of my eye shape. To each their own!

[@JLB0880]

Stephanie, thank you so much for the passion and time you invest in educating your subscribers. I am 36, and just recently overhauled my makeup routine, and your channel has been a tremendous resource for me. I now feel so much more comfortable in my skin and confident and love what I see when I look in the mirror. I'm also a scientist in an industry where there is a lot of controversy and confusion about simple facts among the general public. I know how frustrating it can be when people just believe whatever they hear rather than taking the time to research and make their own decisions. I love that you are encouraging that practice here. ❤️

[@jannellemoreno4799]

This video was very informative and I agree depending on your preference is whether or not you will like the pallet..Im definately going to get this pallet!

[@jannellemoreno4799]

Watch wayne goss's video...he basically says the same thing!

[@lucydyamond3658]

Queen Stephanie is here to spill the tea!!! Looking absolutely beautiful, lady! I love your hair like that.

[@x_destinystar]

yes her hair looks awesome!

[@hollycockerham5851]

My purchase is literally hanging on the results of this video. I watch with anticipation 😂

[@trishah2145]

Holly Cockerham what are you thinking now on the purchase? I'm just so curious at this point I want to try it especially after SN's review.

[@Paloma.13]

Holly Cockerham yes or no ???

[@Thomas-ui4nh]

Holly Cockerham this is how I feel with most of her videos lmao

[@s.y.4164]

So what's your conclusion? I'm dying to know.

[@biancacontreras8286]

I feel this comment

[@antoniaprs9865]

Girl, I really love your reviews because you are so informed and insist on details that other youtubers completely ignore, like skin tones, complementary colours, ingredients etc. I have seen a lot of people out there mixing that purply tone and yellow and complaining it turned gray. I admit that I really need these informations too, so I really apreciate someone taking the time to explain everything to us and not stopping at swatches+makeup tutorials. Thanks!

[@a.e.5569]

Thank you for explaining the color spectrum/wheel. Some you-tubers didn't understand why their shadows blended grey.

[@Glamdotzan]

Personally i didn't think you would hate it, but I knew for sure i could count on you to bring the receipts and inform your subs which is ALWAYS appreciated. Absolutely love your channel ma'am.

[@katykalyptra9825]

This gonna be the real review

[@joannasaad298]

Katy Kalyptra Also an educated review 👏

[@lesliequinn1]

Katy Kalyptra you know it 😍

[@ashleybeauty5901]

I agree!!!!!!

[@mildgrooveon]

Comment of the day.

[@sax1286]

lmao the shade towards other yters is so PIGMENTEDDD!!

[@ryath1030]

I think you did a really good job representing this palette and explaining to people. Wayne Goss tried saying the same thing, don't dig into the pallet, just barely tap your brush. People were just tap, tap, tapping ,swirl ,swirl ,swirling into the pallet and wonder why they were hitting pan. I'm guessing they are all use to digging into Morphe lol, just a little humor. I like Morphe shadows😉. Goss also said this is pure pressed pigment, so they have a lot of Fallout if you go in heavy. Like you said if you know how to use the pallet and don't go in with a heavy hand or heavy brush, it's a really good pallet. I forget who else said a lot of the colors can go muddy or gray because they do not color match, their opposites. It really makes me want to buy this palette. I go in with the really light hand with my makeup and build up. I really liked the abh Renaissance palette . I know this is a polar opposite of it. Before buying I would go in a see it in store first Tho.

[@1980alise]

I seriously wish you would review other things besides makeup/skincare because you would totally be the person I would turn to. "Hey I'm looking for a toaster, let me go see Stephanie's review." " I need a new bathrobe better go see Stephanie's review." Funny, I know. But I love that you're so truthful and honest. I don't care what anyone says I would rather listen to a 30 minute REAL review then listen to a 5 minute video of someone telling me they love something because they got invited to the launch party.

[@jessicaivory1226]

If there's drama about a brand/product that I'm considering purchasing,i come here to listen to your honest review.You're never rude,never looking for extra PR from a review!Through all the commotion you still give a real,non-biased review.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ThelmaGangoye]

Yesss i was waiting for this!! Your reviews and Alissa Ashley's are the only one I trust. 🙏🏾❤️

[@chaaaaiiii]

I just want to say that I appreciate that you're one of the very very few youtubers who didn't stab their palettes and even though you're not a huge fan, you still taught us inexperienced people how to make this product work. I really really appreciate that. Instantly a huge fan. Thanks you

[@MayDancini]

I must say that Stephanie's review is totally honest. No BS at all. I'm chemist, got my hands on this palette and tested it before Stephani's review. So, I already had my own opinion about the palette and it totally matched with Stephani's. I think some people should appreciate her knowledge on cosmetics and remember that she is one of the most honest professionals I've ever seen in this KZbin world. I really believe she does not care about PR, pissing of any brand or whatever... if something is good in her opinion, is good... if something is bad, is bad... if something is shady she will show you. Against facts there are no arguments. That is it. Let us learn to appreciate who is really on our side, okie? Okie! :)

[@urcutejeans-]

yes. thank you. loooove this fantastic comment & could not have said it better myself

[@karlacoto3242]

I was REALLY waiting for this video with all the drama going around. I completely trust you

[@sambill8910]

Every time I watch a video by Stephanie... I leave feeling more educated... thanks alot for all the effort you put in for us!

[@donnyreiss1180]

sam bill what a great compliment

[@lyllies1130]

Stephanie, you are absolutely brilliant and your reviews are always extremely complex and mature.People are expecting for you to say yes or no, and they need to try it for themselves. I absolutely LOVE YOU!!! YOUR OPINIONS ARE BEST!!!

[@zongbyrd]

Why would anyone aggressively swirl their brush into an eyeshadow? That's a great way to ruin any eyeshadow. I heard of people constantly doing that and complaining about the shadows being powdery.

[@dvhanson1962]

MakeupArtistme! Because that's what you have to do with a lot of those YT popular brands that have referral codes etc...

[@jennatha4789]

MakeupArtistme! they would have kick back and to show they did a quick swirl

[@alexaj9862]

I 100% agree that is it just a preference thing. I like to go in LIGHTLY and sparingly with my shadows, so I treated this palette the same way I treat my MR Palette, and I had zero issues.

[@TheFloridagirl09]

Your reviews should be everyone's "go to". I watched a couple of "reviews" and saw people really aggressively using their brushes and mixing colors that like you said WOULD be muddy if combined. It's CRAZY how little i can tell you used of the product and how much it showed up. It's definitely a very pigmented shadow palette. This isn't a palette I'd buy because the colors aren't my style but I definitely appreciated a thorough and knowledgeable review of a product!!

[@cornflkeboy1]

I've watched several reviews on this palette and I have to say that I appreciated yours the most by far. Your attention to detail regarding ingredients, formulation, pricing, etc., is fantastic! It is nice to hear someone who understands that just because a product is performing differently does not mean it was a conspiracy on the part of the manufacturer. An acrylic paint performs differently than a water based paint, you can't expect to use the same techniques / performance with both.

[@RituMakhijaritumak]

Thank you! I make matte Eyeshadows and you have it spot on. Making matte Eyeshadows work is HARD! Pressing them too much won't make it blend, the binder will make it patchy and it won't swatch well.

[@rayniemel5729]

I LITERALLY COULD NOT TRUST ANYONE LIKE I KNOW I FEEL THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE BUT I HAVE JUST BEEN SITTING HERE WAITING FOR YOU TO DEBUNK THIS WHOLE SITUATION

[@studio_onyx]

I've seen tutorials where the shadow is packed on, then lightly blended... and when they do that, almost ALL the pigment falls off the lid! Even with primer. Then it just leaves a patchy, weird look. Especially AXIS seems to do this.

[@MsStephNic]

Pale Peach not sure. Doesn't happen for me as you can see in the demo

[@karargyri]

Pale Peach - I used the UD eden primer and applied it the way Stephanie Nicole showed and it was great, no fall out at all.

[@studio_onyx]

I have also seen at least 5 tutorials where the colours oxidise before my very eyes, even just the first shadow on the lid changes, so I'm not talking about "muddying" of colours being blended together. Just straight out oxidisation. I know you're saying that's not the case for you, but I find it very hard to believe that this issue people are having is all a matter of "application preference". Either way, out of all the first impressions I've watched, if 1 in 10 tells me it works for them, that's really not enough for me to trust that it's going to work for me.

[@laylaariel3751]

Pale Peach as someone who's not a beauty influencer, and someone who used every different technique I know ... this palette just isn't good. The colors do oxidize, they easily are patchy, cube and electric barely show up, and the darker shadows skip and do not blend no matter how little you use. Don't waste your money.

[@zoey33527]

Not all of the shadows oxidase, the yellow shade was the only one that seemed to do that. Just like with certain foundations, for example the maybelline fit me (a yt beauty guru cult favorite) will oxidase on me but i have a coworker who loves it, does that mean her or the hundreds of youtubers who love it, their opinion isn't credible and that the product is shit? No, it just proves that everyone has different experiences and that not everyone is gonna have the same results with certain products. As for this palette working for her and not for the rest of the youtubers you watch, well ultimately she didn't recommend the palette to her viewers BECAUSE of all the polarized reviews, she advised we go try the palette ourselves and make our own educated decisions.

[@syd9100]

I adore how informative, truthful, and different your reviews are from other youtubers that just say “OMG I OOVE THIS PALETTE!!!” You go into such detail and I love it so much. Keep doing you !!!!!

[@JanielleWright]

GREAT REVIEW! SO HONEST! DEFINITELY CHANGED A LOT OF PPLS MINDS! LOVE YOU SN!

[@michellebelledejour]

I have been using this palette for almost a week without any issues. The colors Cube and Electric are the only colors that I have to wet or use my fingers to apply on my eyes. I do think it comes to preferences and how some like to apply their eyeshadows. Also I believe that most deeper colors have to be applied carefully. I have the same issues with some of Kat Von D's deeper color eyeshadows. If you use too many together, they will muddy up on the eyes. I will continue to buy ABH products because I love the brand and have had nothing but a good experience 😎❤As always, thank you for being honest and informative with your review and demo😎👍🏼

[@gabrieleuselyte454]

Do you actually think I'm gonna watch a 39 minute Stephanie Nicole video? Damn right I will!

[@k.huelle]

I think you proved again why you have the reputation you do of being honest! Love that you don't say something just to appease people. Really appreciated how you broke down what to expect from this palette and how you could go about using it successfully, if it fits your style. I was ready to stay away, but after your review I'm going to check it out.

[@ronni7167]

Great Review Stef. Thanks for the extra effort you put in and thanks to Riply for her swatches. 😘😘❤️

[@TheCupcakeaholic]

Finally! I know you had a lot going on. I've been waiting for your review on this. Your reviews are the ones I trust the most. Thank you for doing this one!!!!

[@RyanIsAPro]

Love you girlie! Your intro is stunning - makes me want to visit SanFran everytime. Thanks for the review. 💙❤️♥️

[@xy9231]

Not even through the whole review yet, but just wanted to tell you thank you, because I've found time and time again that you are my most trusted beauty reviewer ever.

[@MayFlora]

I was going to buy this palette because it's more my style than the modern renaissance, so thank you for explaining the best way to apply it.

[@louloualvin]

Queen of professionalism. Still don't think I'll be purchasing tho as I can tell the blending problems will frustrate me because I use the little-by-little application of shadow, as you said I shouldn't have to change my application to a more tedious method just to fit around a palette. Thanks for the review Steph!

[@Fam52011]

I've seen them all, but this is the one I've been waiting to watch.

[@kimberlydawnmckinney9492]

I have to say this review and demo was really refreshing. Instead of showing how horrible and powdery it was, you showed in intricate detail how to work with the palette and what worked for you. I sincerely appreciate that! I've heard so much bad about this palette and I was completely unconvinced because so many are using it ways that I just wouldn't. Your methods are closer to what I would do especially working with high pigment colors and a palette that is known for being more delicate. Thank you for doing such a thorough job and for showing the beauty of this palette! This has been the best video I've seen for Subculture and I'm grateful to have seen you work with it. VERY appreciative for your efforts. Thank you again!

[@sho0glenifty]

Thank you Stephanie. I appreciate the time, money and effort you took to give us this review. Keep it up

[@Walking_Spinel]

I lost it at "Hell has frozen over, there's a Morphe palette on my channel" 😂😂😂 I wasn't planning on buying this palette because the colors didn't appeal to me, but I watched your review on it because I love your in-depth reviews. Keep it up ♥️

[@natlac4998]

Most people complaining and hating the pallet are people who will spray their brush with setting spray to get the best colour payout for shimmers. But won't lighten the pressure they use to apply shadows to get the best payout from the Subculture pallet. Not every product is made to be used to same way! What is so hard to understand?

[@maiastoes]

this was the only helpful review ive watched on this palette. i got it in the mail a couple days and i completely understand the bad reviews if people with a lot of lid space want a nice smoky eye but i personally like it, i have semi hooded eyes and i only use the dark colors in the palette very close to my lashline by packing them on and smoking them out. i was a little confused by cube at first but i layered it over axis and it turned into a beautiful shimmery purple, cube can basically be used to transform any of the colors in the palette into different colors, which is pretty cool. all in all i think if you treat this palette like a palette full of loose pigment it works beautifully.

[@lasenoradelacruz]

It seems to be too much work to make the palette work. It's full of pigment and it's high quality but if a person has to change the way they've been doing their makeup for years to accomodate to the product, it's not worth it in my opinion, specially for people who are always on a rush doing their makeup like I do. Great review as always!

[@AnnetteLife]

Agree. Some of us are constantly on the go, and don't have more then 15-20 minutes to do our make up. It's unrealistic for ppl who have shit to do lol. Smh

[@pimpindymepiece]

Melanie Padua Soto agreed! It looks like a lot of work and the colors are too militant for my taste, but I was still waiting on the edge of my seat for this review lol

[@sax1286]

This is quicker anyway lol since its more pigmented

[@katieaviss543]

I don't care for the palette much and don't plan on buying it, but as a makeup artist I always adapt my technique to different formulas... I have some eyeshadows that are ultra soft and pigmented and I pick up a tiny amount on my brush and then pat it on gently, build it up slowly. Some eyeshadows I can use a fluffy brush and pick up plenty of product and sweep it onto the lid with no issues. It's the same for a foundation. My Illamasqua skin base foundations require only a tiny amount of product for full coverage and I like to apply with a buffer brush, but with NARS sheer glow foundation I tend to use more of it with a damp beauty blender. Every product is different and I thought that it wasn't strange or new to adapt your technique depending on formula.

[@leslieknope3394]

sa x Not really. You put too much on accident then you mess up the whole thing. If you're in a hurry, you are not attentive to how delicate you put your brushes in and don't have time to do all the things you have to do to make the product work.

[@KimberlyEllendale]

I always feel so much smarter about makeup after watching her videos. Greatest teacher❤️

[@littlemisstoes]

I am a person in the marketing and advertising field with an arts background, so I understand *NOW* that you have to threat this eye shadow palette as if you were working with actual pigments. But honestly why would you release a palette aimed at the general public that requires specific knowledge and product usage guidance in a format everyone is used to already? If the Subculture had been released with said instructions and disclaimers people wouldn't be so mad. Had the subculture been released as a PRO ARTIST shadow palette I would understand the brand coming for people not knowing how to use it. But the company has been doing a really poor job managing this, their PR people is missing out the point their costumers are making. Instead of coming off preachy and hammering people for not 'doing it right' and basically making their customers feel dumb, a simple acknowledgment of the problem and concerns would have been better. Also people complaining, more pigment and color payoff =/= better. You can like this palette because you know how to work it and know color theory, but honestly the average person don't have time for that. To me the biggest issue is how the company is managing this tbh.

[@shana4806]

littlemisstoes my biggest issue as well.

[@celestehola]

littlemisstoes boohoo

[@MACMAKEUPJUNKEE]

littlemisstoes I have to agree. From a PR stand point the handling of the situation has been awful. I've seen the snarky comments from ABH employees and they are condescending and unprofessional. They should've made a statement, explained the palette better and offered refunds to those who disliked it. And they should have advised all ABH employees to not comment on the matter. First it was you don't know how to use this palette then it was a pressing issue then a batch issue and it's just like ok so what is the REAL issue here? I get that the owner is emotionally attached to their brand and products but it is simply just not how you handle complaints from your customers.

[@Kimmaline]

So TOTALLY agree. I am really surprised by Stephanie's review, tbth. She keeps talking about preference, etc--but she put a clip in this video of Norvina saying "super easy to blend, of course". The handling of this is repulsive to me. I'm genuinely sad. I guess it's good I only do neon purple/pink brows now, because I'll never be buying Dipbrow again!

[@mcpowers26]

littlemisstoes it was intended for social media "people" aka beauty gurus, and even though most of them haven't been certified professionally, they certainly act like "pros." unfortunately skills using filters isn't the same thing as talent. #bye

[@spookyfoxx_]

It's honestly so relieving to see someone breakdown makeup the way you do. Everyone these days thinks all makeup should act and work for everyone the exact same way. So I'm happy you went into detail about the techniques with this palette and why it's so different. I do personally own this palette and I love it. Thank you so much for your honesty!

[@Itsthatforeignchic]

I don’t swirl my modern renaissance either , I tap it I feel like the modern renaissance does the same thing people are complaining this palette does but I’ve never heard anyone complain about m.r. I love ABH and supporting a Romanian owner

[@edwardcullen221]

Most "KZbin/ Instagram makeup artists" or whatever you want to call them, pack on pigment for the most color payoff and cannot create looks with a cool toned palette as well. They're very 100% accustomed to warm shadows with massive color payoff. Cooler toned colors are also harder to coordinate with other colors.

[@Tech9179]

Samantha Ball This

[@Crownslayer013]

Bless

[@j_quii_lin3292]

Yassss ! I have literally been waiting for this review. 🙌🏽

[@marianniezayas1531]

Seriously admire the dedication! Some of the reviews you wrote down in the description box were literally posted a couple hours ago & you've updated already. 👏👏👏

[@janedove8431]

A sensible and balanced review thank you. I have placed my order as I love ABH Modern Renaissance. It makes sense to appreciate that highly pigmented products need a more gentle touch.

[@dee7019]

Many viewers look to your videos not just for a review, but for the breakdown of costs and explaination of the formula and the "science" behind the cosmetics. We trust you for more than just a like/dislike point of view. You're probably one of the most respected reviewers on KZbin.

[@Julia-vn5re]

Dee totally agree!

[@MsStephNic]

Dee thanks Dee ❤️

[@drobo7]

Stephanie Nicole Dee's comment is spot on. I was watching Jamie Gs tut yesterday and your name was on there. Then today, Steph Lang had a liquid lipstick tut, yet in the comments people mentioning hooded eyes, and there you are, recommended. I find wherever I go, I see your name as someone everybody recommends as honest, truthful and not a "sell out". It's a shame you've received some flack for this review, but, unfortunately, I think a lot of people want to see you "drag" everything from a drama point of view. However, the majority of us, appreciate your honesty and THIS is what makes you A*, that you don't jump on the "bashing it for the sake of it' bandwagon. Don't let the bastards get you down. Lots of love xxx

[@bluebird4902]

lol Science? Seeing this as a chemE is pretty cringy when and MUA tries to explain chemical composition or process design. Bottom line, if the consumer cant use it then whats the point.

[@user-vx3qu6tm3c]

Savannah Rodriguez you do realize she has a BSC in chemistry? She's never claimed to be an MUA.

[@imissmyoldchannel]

Finally someone with common sense 😍 You're so classy and mature, and obviously it should be a given for a person to be like that, but in this community some people aren't like that. And it affects the audience SO MUCH it's scary...

[@PeaceNLiebe]

imissmyoldchannel right she's the only one I'm aware of that doesn't dumb down her common sense just to act surprised. Over reactive reviews are getting old!

[@lyavaiya9981]

I'm a master cosmetologist and I've been looking for a KZbinr who knows a little something about Chemistry & how the color wheel works. I'm so happy I found your channel! I love makeup and I LOVE ABH Eyeshadows. I LOVE THEM! So glad I was able to get a better understanding, thanks to your video! Much love xo !! New subbie here!!!

[@ohmyolmy]

Yaasss!! I've been waiting for this!!! Can't watch it yet because I'm at work, but I already liked the video!!

[@sirensidyll]

So, I was waiting to hear your views on this to formulate an already pretty informed option on this palette. I really feel like Norvina feel into the trap of wanting to provide the MOST pigmented palette EVER because for some reason, we have come to believe that super pigmented = best quality or best application experience. I've stated more than once that some of the issues were more about color theory and application than the actual product. I think it would be a great idea if she did go back and reformulated this palette to be a big more consumer friendly in terms of application. Also, I think that it would probably benefit them as well as any other smaller company to have a panel of people whom they test their products with from all different types of people with different levels of experience. At the end of the day, ABH is a retail product sold to the everyday woman who enjoys / loves make-up. Ridiculously pigmented shadows are remarkable for editorial looks but let's face it, I don't want to have to gently tap and then with a feather like precision softly blend the color so that I don't look like bozo the clown. I love ABH, I love the colors and concept of the palette but do feel that it was a misstep in the formula. Will pass on the palette but I think that the backlash from certain influencers happen to be more sensationalism because it draws views than informed and unbiased criticism.

[@venussowr]

I love this palette. The texture mimics modern rennaisance don't know whats up with the recent trend in dragging new releases. It's beautiful and the colors are actually interesting unlike all these burned out warm palettes.

[@mahafatima95]

Thank you Stephanie! My God you are the only who clarified about mixing colours on the colour wheel and the result. I just told all my friends to watch your review before listening to everbody else.