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@a.sonetwo45473 жыл бұрын
Cool review..... Just got me a stumpjumper evo troy lee frame.....gonna build up the rig till spring😝🤘🏻🚲
@m.travel32482 жыл бұрын
@MTB yumyum: can you plz briefly list key modifications compared to the standard model? ZEB instead of Fox36 is obvious, but what else? e.g. stem, handlebar, ... Thanks.
@phantasma23232 жыл бұрын
Yum Yum, i dont know what you’ve experienced but i appreciate a good climbing bike as well. I own this bike and I have to say that it climbs great. Im one of the faster riders in my area, Northeast technical chunky trails. And I have reset all my PRs up and down on this bike. I agree that while it may not give you the “feeling” of being efficient, it’s deceiving because it produces a ton of grip allowing for all your power to be used effectively and thus no rear wheel skipping as is the case with some dual link bikes (yeti/ibis/pivot). For those watching this, the bike climbs very well. Get some carbon hoops snd faster rolling tires and watch what happens. Also, its not a small bike, sometimes a smaller rider doesn’t put out as much power to push it hard. At 185-190 riding weight I have no issues lushing this bike on ANY trail fast. Up and down, tame trails to rough. This is probably the lost adjustable and adaptable bike Ive ever owned. And Ive owned them all. Easy to ride fast bc Spesh does their homework on what works. Dont be deterred by the climbing dig this video takes, it climbs great 😉.
@joe83132 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I'll say I think yumyum is a bit misguided on this one. I live in CO where we have a few hills here... and have owned dw-link bikes and Yeti's (SI). This bike climbs really well, especially tech. I'll take it over the Ripley I used to own for climbing if that says anything.
@JaggedTusk3 жыл бұрын
FYI, this version of the Stumpy Evo in this video is set up as a mullet. It also already has the mullet linkage installed.
@StarlightMassacre2 жыл бұрын
Might help explain why it climbed not so well, along with the slacker headtube angle setup.
@canklemedkits37723 жыл бұрын
Just finished my first ride on this bike. Previous bike is an specialized enduro. Difference is night and day. It’s light and nimble. I think about turning and it just reacts. Very happy.
@stevem85383 жыл бұрын
I think you’d love the epic evo. Any chance of a review and comparison video in the near future?
@jdazmtnbkr95713 жыл бұрын
Another Great Review!! I’ve had mine for close to a year now & have been loving it. My go to bike now for the Rougher high speed trails.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Totally. Would be a fun bike to have around for sure!
@joesmith3908 Жыл бұрын
Picking up my evo expert this weekend. Took advantage of their recent sale. Coming from a trek fuel for the past five years. So excited for a bit more travel and a little longer bike.
@coskier19693 жыл бұрын
I rode the Ripmo and Switchblade. I liked the Evo better for everything. I did not like Ripmo or Switchblade at all, way too twitchy, not planted. But I weigh over 200lbs. Evo rides like my Pivot Firebird which is the best all around bike.
@xfortysd403 жыл бұрын
I've had my 2021 Evo for almost a year now, absolutely shreds, best bike I've owned. Swapped out the shock for an Ohlins tx22 coil, night and day difference, thing is am absolute beast! I don't know, I think it climbs just pretty damn well, barely a notch below the Ripmo, but damn does it blow it out on the decent. Of course I'm coming from a 35lb Commencal Meta, so anything climbs better after that! So many damn killer bikes out there today, can't really go wrong with any of them.
@SnowShackboy2 жыл бұрын
I put a coil on my too, though I've heard rumors about this bike being a bit of a coil shock killer. How has your Ohlins coil been holding up so far?
@xfortysd402 жыл бұрын
@@SnowShackboy Ohlins is fine, only coils that aren't is the Fox and Super deluxe. The Ohlins has been sick, no complaints at all! Have another friend who has a Push Ind on his Evo, that coil rips as well.
@fewgerson3 жыл бұрын
got this for christmas, it was a used one but we got it working. Pretty awesome!!
@teddybandaruk64703 жыл бұрын
Jason that is also the discontinued Evo Limited which is a mullet out of the box! Looks like the owner set it up as a 29 with the beefier bike park set up(zeb), much better with the 36. I have the Evo pro which is my favorite bike I’ve ever owned. Good climber but an even better descender. It is also much lighter than that limited at 31.2 pounds on an S3! I just came off the switchblade and I’d say that climbing is the place it takes the cake over this but that’s about it!Love the content man
@SnowShackboy2 жыл бұрын
I actually just bought this bike brand new and the Zeb fork comes stock on this bike actually. It's crazy what this fork can eat up, I love it so far!
@davidmacdonald2873 жыл бұрын
Hoping to pick up my new 2022 alloy Evo today, just so exciting. I have a Float X and 38's ready for the upgrade build. Thank you for the review.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Wow, sounds fun!
@danielgrafik3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on your views being a shorter rider (or just short legged), the large rear 29" IS a concern. Mullets or dedicated 27.5 have are a +1 in my book.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yep!!
@31acruz3 жыл бұрын
Another great review that keeps you up to date where this fall with the latest comparable group . Great job!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Thanks
@3igger13 жыл бұрын
I love mine! It has SWAT box and 3 HTA adjustable settings. Also, Alloy version has SWAT box too. Thank you for reviewing this bike!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know they were doing swat box on alloy... that's awesome!!
@milktop13 жыл бұрын
Efficiency vs grip, there is always a trade off. Personally where I ride grip is more important. Lots of technical ups to immediate downs.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Bingo. Very good point. I have long sustained climbs that are steep but not overly technical. Efficiency is key if I want to ride 5-6 days a week and not get burnt out. Thanks!
@billw_mtb53333 жыл бұрын
Great review. The adjustability built in is very interesting.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Tempting for sure… this bike was a lot of fun. Wish I had more time to mess around w the different settings
@codyrichardsmtb33593 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review for a while now.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
It was a fun one!
@steveharper40173 жыл бұрын
Great review Jason, love the channel. I was going to get the Evo base model back in January but ended up getting the 2021 Vitus Escarpe CRX, purely for value for money, full fox factory suspension and full xt groupset and £500 less than the base Evo. It's a great all rounder.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I've never heard of Vitus... I know there are a lot of other brands in Europe.
@georgebailey63073 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for posting. Love the enthusiasm!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the kind words.... I really appreciate it!
@mattschneider49763 жыл бұрын
@mtbyumyum the bike you have is the LTD spec, which would have come as a mullet Setup from factory. I recommend you verify you have the correct suspension link to be running full 29er. Probably is but makes one wonder as that’s how the bike would have started it’s life. I purchased the 2021 Sworks evo and it came with the DPX2 and fox 36 . I am wondering if you had reviewed the evo in this spec if you would have found it to be more efficient. However, if I had to guess probably negligible. Regardless I love you reviews and appreciate the amount time and energy you put into them for us to enjoy.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, would the 29er wheel/tire fit in the back with the mullet link installed? I guess I just thought it wouldn't work with a bigger wheel back there... I've had a number of comments now showing disappointment for not spending more time swapping the bike around to the different configurations... it's just too much time for me to spend on a signal video review... in any case, thank you for the kind words and I'd be very interested to know if you're correct...
@Jgalaski84383 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum if it had the 27.5 linkage in there, I suspect you wouldn't have had pedal strike issues in the low setting so I suspect its the 29 linkage. Also was wondering about the RS suspension...
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I thought the RS stuff was really good. No complains as to the feel and control.... wish the shock had a middle setting for climbing instead of full open or locked out... That was my first time on a Zeb. Thought it was great!
@williamsweet75112 жыл бұрын
I bought one last fall, about the time you did this review but it has the fox suspension on it. Anyways it's a great bike, just subscribed and thanks for your review. Commenting so youtube sees the interaction...
@mtbyumyum2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support William. Welcome!!
@williambreeze26592 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@hannes61143 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that frame design.
@ww8wv13 жыл бұрын
Great review, I’ve been considering this bike
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
It’s a lot of fun
@rodrigopages10543 жыл бұрын
The review I’ve been waiting since the launch of this bike 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
haha me too.... just took a minute to get a bike to demo. Thank you!
@mtnbikerva13 жыл бұрын
Soooo will you tell us after raving about how great the latest Pivot Trail 429 is, why you went with the Ripley? Is it because you are a lighter guy and like the flex you get from it vs the strong stiff 429? Do you get a better price from Ibis vs Pivot? Could it be you do not want the extra bottom bracket/pedal/Crankset clearance? Just trying to figure out how your words do not match your actions. Had a chance or care to experience and comment on the Trail 429 Enduro? Thank you for your experience and thoughtful videos and replies!!
@TheCureThatKillz3 жыл бұрын
I’d LOVE to see you ride and review and Evil Wreckoning. That bike is so insane and compared to other bikes I feel like there’s hardly any good reviews on Evil bikes. Salt Cycles now sells Evil maybe you could get one from them
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I heard Salt picked up Evil... haven't seen any there tho....
@keeran4503 жыл бұрын
I just rode my new Wreckoning on the weekend and am beyond stoked!! I was a bit nervous about the long travel and big wheels feeling too pigish but man for a big bike it's really sprightly/playful and can still plow. Highly recommend
@creece13 жыл бұрын
Great review, would love to see you do a review on the mullet version
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that would have been awesome. I’d love to ride a bunch more mixed wheel bikes next season
@jim63353 жыл бұрын
The color scheme and the zeb looks like its the ltd edition with 27.5 rear wheel
@jsinnott59522 жыл бұрын
Awesome review as always . Very curious to hear what you think of the new mullet SC Bronson
@mtbyumyum2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd love to ride it
@jsinnott59522 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I may end up getting one because it’s the only bike with decent amount of availability ( less demand , maybe people are concerned about the mullet setup )
@dirtbike90033 жыл бұрын
Yum yum in da house.... love TPC. Quit advertising them! Never bought a bike but components 👍 yup!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
haha that's awesome! Thanks!
@jamesjetmar54753 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the reviews Jason, you do a great job! How does it compare to the sb130LR? Which one do you like better for a all around trail bike? Thanks
@dft13 жыл бұрын
Thanks! i have this bike in mullet and love it. I do a lot of long fireroad climbs, just flip that switch on the shock and good to go. 63 inch mode insane on steeps.
@erinsalazar50693 жыл бұрын
Another great review!
@ronniekaftal17293 жыл бұрын
Great review. I came from the previous firebird 29 to the MY21 evo and found the steeper seat tube on the evo huge improvement. Especially when climbing. Depending, the firebird feels a bit more stable and stiffer. The few things to notice with the evo is that it has exceptionally high leverage ratio that calls for the specific tune specialized did on the stock shock. I wonder how it will last over time when you have to pump the shock to 300 plus PSI. The other thing to notice is comp build with the crappy spec. Especially the harsh rythem 36 fox upfront and the heavy wheels
@jeffbond50623 жыл бұрын
Great review again Jason. I bought an evo Last May & Love it as my one bike.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@nigelhagley89422 жыл бұрын
Thank you the great review! At 5'8" tall would you consider riding the EVO in a S2 size? Your feedback would be great!
@johnm97093 жыл бұрын
Jeez I find it hard enough to settle on a rebound damping setting. With all this adjustment I will be forever thinking I need to tweek something. Great if thats what you like I suppose.
@brettv5763 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great reviews! Would love to hear a review of the offering v2 from you, if any of the updates helped its climbing ability.
@oakleypayne-meyer75343 жыл бұрын
I have requested it as well!
@brettv5763 жыл бұрын
@@oakleypayne-meyer7534 I imagine it is probably hard to get a hold of one to test right now.
@douglasschmelzinger54353 жыл бұрын
He said i didn't set this up as a mullet when that version evo is the LTD and is a mullet bike 🤷♂️
@lonewolf305313 жыл бұрын
Nice bike . Great content .
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ✌️
@khema60853 жыл бұрын
You should review the 2020 specialized enduro for longer travel 29er
@kentao43 жыл бұрын
I own an epic Evo and love it. I’m tempted to come back to a stumpy. I don’t need it to be a perfect climber but I’ll tell you the stumpy I had was with a rock shox set up and I HATED climbing. In my opinion Fox is better for these longer travels because when you hit the climb switch, it actually comes close to locking out. On the pike, I couldn’t understand why I was still moving my fork just as much
@Max-dj5qj2 жыл бұрын
There are also a lot of Rock shox forks and shock which have 100% lockout with one switch... Besides that, fox getsnot 100% locked
@alexdoner36412 жыл бұрын
this review was really Rad but I would love to see how this version of the Stumpjumper would do in the Southwest with all the big sharpen Point rocks I myself I have a 2016 camber on a 29er setup it actually kind of long travel more so because I'm a taller guy
@MagicycleBike3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@pjsanab3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aquinotoschin3 жыл бұрын
Great review. What did you think about the Specialized tires?
@JustDrinkingCawfee2 жыл бұрын
Jason, I think you're riding it with the mullet link.
@gtbreaux2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to decide between this and the Altitude. Any advice? I really prioritize "plushness" with great small bump sensitivity, which sounds like the Altitude might have the edge in? This would be my only bike so I do care somewhat about climbing ability as well though. Any input would be much appreciated, thanks!
@dadventuretv25383 жыл бұрын
Dude where is the review while riding? Miss that trail footage review format. Always informative tho. Well done. 🤙
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I’d like to get back to that… this format cuts my editing time significantly and makes a slightly more accurate review giving me more time to think about what I’m saying… we’ll see. Thanks!
@LRumore3 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is, it's basically a slightly less burly Sentinel but with better fit and finish, way more adjustability, SWAT box and mullet option?! I think a Ripmo with coil shock would be a better all around ride until the next gen Hightower V3 comes out with all the Bronson updates.
@pedalhound3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What's the best technical climbing 130-150 29er you have tested so far? I'm on a Chromag Rootdown and any of the bikes I've tested so far really lack the get up and go that I love about my HT. The biggest at the top of my list are the Banshee Prime, Switchblade, Stumpy...
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Pivot Switchblade, Yeti SB130, Revel Rascal and the new 130mm Stumpy are all excellent. Ripley and Trail 429 climb a little better but give it up on the descents compared to these others.
@Jgalaski84383 жыл бұрын
I bought a prime last spring and I'm switching out to (most likely) an Evo. I found the prime climbed poorly and the reach/TT lengths are just too short. I would have gone XL but the seat tube is too long. For comparison, I have a 180 one up v2 dropper in the large and it is as far in as it can go and the saddle is at the perfect hight. I have a 2014 rune XL and I have a 180 one up dropper on that and it isn't slammed. So really don't the changes they made to the V3 frames and seat tubes but they didn't build the frames to accommodate long droppers. I'm 6' with bike shoes for reference which puts me at the shorter side of their L sizing. BB to saddle height is 750mm. Also, they have a progressive linkage that is coil compatible but then ship the OE DPX2 shock with 0.8 volume spacer (IIRC). This is max for the shock making it as progressive as it possibly could be. At my sag I could not get anything beyond about 75% travel. And even with this, I couldn't get it to be good while climbing. Again, the 2014 rune was an excellent climber and better than the v3 prime. Im really not sure what they were going for but I do not recommend. Maybe someone else milage will vary. Edit: also, it's a little bit of a porky. I didn't think this would matter but at 36lbs with carbon rims, fox 36, slx 12 speed drive train I'm not sure I understand the frame weight reasoning. In addition, the bottom of the shock is almost impossible to get to. I have to use a multi tool to adjust the rebound adjusters on the shock I have. Edit 2: don't know why I came back to look at your post. But I just realize you said "technical climber". The prime is 100% that. Mountain goat like climbing. I rode up thinks that I shouldn't have been able to. The long rear end really get you that planted and stable feeling. If that's what you do, the prime is the bike for you.
@pedalhound3 жыл бұрын
Thank you @@Jgalaski8438 ... There are bikes I like more... But I can get a great deal on a new frame. I had the V2 prime and liked it ... But the Revel Rascal and Pivot Switchblade just look so good!
@pedalhound3 жыл бұрын
Thank you @@mtbyumyum.... Those bikes are high on my list... Will see if I can throw a leg over them.
@Jgalaski84383 жыл бұрын
@@pedalhound I bought a V2 large frame (good deal) in fall 2020 and I loved it, it was just too small. Same experience as you, it climbed amazing and was exceptional overall. I don't find the V3 is that at all. I can't explain it. I did go from a 28 chainring on the v2 to a 30 on the v3 so maybe I decreased anti-squate some, but can't believe it was that much. I also think the frame is about 2 or 3 lbs heavier, which I'm sure doesn't help. I don't know....
@SnowShackboy2 жыл бұрын
The Pros Closet is pretty great to sell too... but man are they pricey to buy from. I have this exact bike and I bought it brand new for $5900, but the Pros Closet has one USED for $6700 right now. yeesh.. They occasionally have a decent deal but definitely check other shops first before buying there.
@Max-dj5qj2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the new elite alloy stumpy... About 8 weeks to go :). Sorry but that's the Ltd Version which is already Mullet...don't you see the clearance of the back wheel?
@jeremyrobinette25633 жыл бұрын
Jason is it pretty comparable to the Transition Sentinel V2?
@jean-pierrekenil53502 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this excellent test. Do you prefer Giants trance x or this one please?
@phthaloblue11173 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, thanks for the review! Did you try the bike in the 65.5 degree HTA? If so, did it climb better in that configuration?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
No and I don't see it making all that much difference... if you demand a better climbing bike that still has a 160mm fork, look to the Pivot Switchblade, Ibis Ripmo and Yeti SB130 in my experience.
@323johnnybravo3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be sweet to compare this to the new Bronson.
@cherryhilldrums53342 жыл бұрын
I just sold my Bronson MX for this SJ EVO. Miles better on climbing and more stable on downhill plus it’s much faster on the straight aways. I like this SJ better. Bronson jumped a little better, that’s it.
@323johnnybravo2 жыл бұрын
@@cherryhilldrums5334 Iv been looking at the Alloy EVO frame for a build. Seems like a burly do it all rig. Thanks for the input. New EVOS are super nice.
@geo220033 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Always enjoying your reviews! 🤘 So, pedaling and going downhill, the Stumpi or the Senti? ⚔️⚔️
@The_Backsmith8023 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that an LTD? They come stock as mullet and the way that link turns down at the seat stay it sure looks like the mullet link.
@mattschneider49763 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Not only that. The parts spec is what you would see on a LTD. I own the 2021 sworks and debated between the two for a long time and as such I got to intimately know both specs.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I've had a few people mention this in the comments now... it was sent to me like this, as a 29er
@The_Backsmith8023 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum if you’re going to have the bike for a while, look into the cascade components link, makes it sooo much better!
@mxnmtber3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@tinshield3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see your take on a Devinci Troy
@superawesomefuntimego2 жыл бұрын
Currently have a 2021 Stumpjumper Carbon that I really like, but part of me wants to sell it and get a EVO just to mess around with all the geo choices and ability to run it as a mullet. I really do not need it though...my other bike is a 2022 Evil Wreckoning which is a longer travel shred machine. Not sure I need two bikes that are too similar as the regular stumpy is a great shorter travel companion to my Evil. Yet...still tempted. lol
@Max-dj5qj2 жыл бұрын
N+1,always the same 😁🙄. Get the new evo elite alloy as one for all. Coming from a transition spur
@NDemanuele13 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I've been curious about Specialized. Where would this bike fit on the Ibis lineup? Would it be more of a Ripmo or Ripley? Also, what do you think of all these Geo adjustments? Are they legit or Fluff? Thanks
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Most similar to the Ripmo. Not sure about the geo adjustability... not sure the average dude would take the time to mess with it but it's cool that it has it. I thought the bike was a lot of fun!
@middleagedmartin3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I suspect your climbing might have been better if the bike was spec'd with the Fox36/DPX2. The tune they have on the DPX2 for this bike is very nice and sporty. That ZEB is going to jack up the front end a bit and add some weight as well vs the Fox36. Secondly, the headset cups make small changes in the HT angle, but they make big changes in the wheelbase which I think might be more noticeable than the HT angle. For those willing to take a few minutes to adjust, the geo range on this bike is massive.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It would have been nice to ride w a shock that had a proper climb switch. I think it would have helped for sure. Also wish I had more time w this bike to try other settings
@kentao43 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I don’t own my 19 Stumpjumper. Rocks box in my opinion didn’t feel great while pedaling. From a newbie perspective I’m like why is there a lockout switch if it doesn’t lock out?!
@keevmulqois24843 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. Always on point! You hit this review right on the head. I own this SJ EVO and love it! Agree with about climbing but still not bad at all. When you point this downhill, it really shines above a lot of similar bikes in this category (and that I’ve ridden…Evil, Ibis, Santa Cruz). I considered the regular (non-EVO) @iamspecialized SJ but love the extra length in the EVO. Look forward to your next review!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I totally understand what you're saying... If I only had one bike at a time it would be so hard to choose between the 120-130mm 29er category and the longer travel 29ers... so many good bikes out right now!
@jasonperrino52713 жыл бұрын
Which bike is the better climber, the regular stumpjumper or the pivot switchblade?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Good question, without having spend much time in technical terrain with the Stumpy, I would say the Switchblade would get up more techy stuff better.... but, the Stumpjumper zips up the trail nicely and might feel more efficient... I'd have to ride them back to back.
@danforg183 жыл бұрын
If you had to pick Hightower, or SJ Evo??
@jaycadorna21493 жыл бұрын
Pros Closet: where we sell you used bikes more expensive than new retail bikes 🤣
@kentao42 жыл бұрын
Dude… I got a quote on my epic evo this past week and they offered me like 3800 store credit, and even less for partner stores and cash. I literally laughed. I had less than 40 mi and I got it brand new for like 6000. I cleared 5800 after pp fees etc. They are the worst. I wouldn’t buy anything there just because of the sheer disrespect lol.
@hannes61143 жыл бұрын
Could you review these 100 percent gloves?
@GhettoSuguru2 жыл бұрын
What would you say is the best pedalling bike ?
@lukienduro2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'1.2" tall (186 cm) and I had problem to choose the correct frame size S4 or S5 :( Can you help me?
@didzy93493 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason! Sooooo ultimate question this or standard new stumpjumper as a one only bike? How did you think it compared to standard stumpy downhill on the same JL descent?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Good question. I actually think the Rocky Mountain Instinct would make an excellent 1 bike for my terrain if I were to only own 1 bike at a time. I would likely be looking at, Yeti SB130, RM Instinct, Trail 429 with Pike/Fox 36, SC Tallboy or Stumpy with Pike/Fox 36 or maybe.... just maybe, an Ibis Ripley with a 140mm Pike... maybe. As for JL descent... having a bigger fork is the key there... the fox 34 gets pushed to hard at those speeds and starts to feel a little scary. A longer bike at those speeds is really nice too... T429 and Ripley get pushed a bit on that trail but a bigger fork could make up the difference... in the end, the Instinct, SB130 and Stumpjumper are better get everything done sort of bikes.... but they're maybe not as much fun as the Ripley's of the world on all the other trails I ride each week
@matthewmcnutt60523 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned both. Last season I started out on a 21 Stumpjumper Comp Carbon. Although the EVO was my first choice, it’s what was available and ended up being a killer bike and there are many things I miss about it. I picked up a 22 SJ EVO S-Works frame, built it up, and only have 25 miles on it so far. I for sure needed the extra travel of the EVO and am stoked on the bike, but it’s definitely more of a tank and is not nearly as nimble and playful. If I could have built up the EVO without having to sell my reg SJ to cover it, I totally would have. Completely different bikes, in my opinion.
@derreknazelrod54123 жыл бұрын
So that’s the evo LTD colorway and build…did the original owner swap out to a 29er in the rear??
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
A number of people have mentioned this... it showed up to me as a 29er... got it from The Pro's Closet
@jameswhyte38343 жыл бұрын
i have £70 budget and i need knee pads and hopefully elbow pads. what would you recommend?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Troy Lee Design Speed Sleeve Knee Pads: bit.ly/2Qirrpb
@mtnbikerva13 жыл бұрын
Is there any warranty on bikes from THE PROS CLOSET? If so what and through who? Thank you.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
good question.... I'll try and find out and get back here... Thanks! I know they have a 30 day money back guarantee... but that's more of a return policy than a warranty.
@mtnbikerva13 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I Appreciate what you are doing for us! But buying a used bike at close to new prices, and without a warranty, to me seems to be a very bad decision. Good riding to you and your family!
@smoothmoose3 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯. Mullet option, SWAT, and adjustability are amazing. But the climbing just didn't cut it for me either.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Wish it climbed like its flex pivot counterpart
@smoothmoose3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum BTW am I right to assume your Rocky Altitude climbs better even though it's a 160mm bike?
@austinpierce60533 жыл бұрын
@@smoothmoose I've been on both a fair bit and I would say that they're not far apart. For some reason I had more pedal strikes on the rocky. Felt like the evo back end didn't get caught up as much. Evo felt like more of my pedaling energy went into the acceleration of the bike too, but that's hard for me to evaluate. I DIDN'T find the altitude C50 to climb poorly at all! I liked the feel of the stumpy more because I could feel that more rearward axle path more on bumps.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
No, I wouldn't say the Altitude climbs better than this Stumpjumper EVO... probably about the same I'd say.... My Altitude was the only bike at the time that I could mullet and feel like I wasn't messing w the geo too much.... there are other options available now and I actually plan to sell the Altitude in the early spring and start shopping for a replacement.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Austin Pierce, I had a number of pedal strikes in the slackest setting on the Altitude... not an issue in the neutral setting or steeper
@jamieparkinson93382 жыл бұрын
Does it come with a kick stand?
@seano2183 жыл бұрын
My understanding of mullets is that they're great for downhill, but not more efficient for climbing, if not more of a hindrance, and flats they're not more efficient either. Therefore, not making them good for an all day adventure as much as they're better off at the bike park or downhills.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
hard to know for sure.... I've got a few hundred miles on mullet bikes at this point and I wouldn't say they're all the much worse...
@seano2183 жыл бұрын
@MTB yumyum but not better or the same? I hear steep climbs is when they lift up more on you.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I had no problems with the front wheel lifting when climbing on this bike
@Jgalaski84383 жыл бұрын
@@seano218 many mullet bikes use flip chips to help address the reduced radius of the 27.5 tire. I haven't seen any that fully offset this 100% so in those cases, the seat angle will be slacker which can cause easier looping out. The SJ Evo changes the lineage which presumably, fully compensates for this difference. As such. Lopping out shouldn't be an issue.
@seano2183 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum on steep climbs?
@Gnougatt3 жыл бұрын
Looks like that's a LTD model, with a 27.5 rear wheel on?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Some body else mentioned that same thing... It showed up to me as a 29er....
@Gnougatt2 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I mean no disrespect, but that's definitely a mullet, the rear wheel is visibly smaller than the front. Also, I have a 29" wheel on mine and there's noticeably less tire clearance against the swingarm. Do enjoy your videos though, please keep 'em coming!
@danerikh3 жыл бұрын
Do you think 150 mm travel on the dropper post for S3 is too short?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer a 175mm
@dakotakirby56733 жыл бұрын
If you had to pick one do it all bike for southern utah trails what would that bike be?!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Really depends on your speed... Ibis Ripmo, Pivot Switchblade, Rocky Mountain Instinct, S Stumpjumper.... really comes down to trail speed
@dakotakirby56733 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum had a Ripmo af and currently on an offering I’ve only been riding serious for about a year. I’d consider myself intermediate, top speeds on average 25-30mph
@ryangregohara3 жыл бұрын
Here is my question….this bike or sb140 with same build kit….???
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Lot's of variables here.... wheels size and what sort of riding you want to do...
@cs.adventures Жыл бұрын
How tall are you and what size is the bike?
@mtbyumyum Жыл бұрын
5'8" medium/S3
@lenolenoleno Жыл бұрын
Just watching this video about it not being a good climber after I just watched the Pinkbike Efficiency Test where the alloy version of this bike climbed the fastest (even. Vs. Lighter carbon bikes). Something doesn't add up with this vid.
@mtbyumyum Жыл бұрын
I currently own the sj evo and been riding it for more than 6 months now.... unless you ride them back to back you'll be subject to what other people (me, pb or any other publication) have to say about it.... I personally don't value pb reviews. They receive thousands of dollars in advertising and marketing money from basically all major bike brands... what do you think they're going to say. I have nothing to gain from saying what I say. I have a day job and this youtube channel is a hobby... I like the sj evo, it doesn't climb as well as many other bikes in the category and it didn't keep me from buy the bike and riding it for more than 6 months now... in the category, the sb140 lr is the best bike available right now and they're on sale!
@danerikh3 жыл бұрын
How do you think SJ EVO compare to Sentinel 2021?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
The SJ is more easy going, maybe climbs a little better and probably a little more fun. Sentinel is crazy stable for the amount of suspension it has, holds a line really well but so does the EVO
@jreh38113 жыл бұрын
You ever get a Revel Ranger for review?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Yep... rode it for a week this same time last year.... never got around to publishing the video tho
@scottyrides84833 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the Rocky Instinct?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
More fun on the descent. Not as nimble and doesn't climb quite as well
@Drogos793 жыл бұрын
this on alloy wheels or alu version on carbons?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I'd go carbon... there are alloy wheels out there available that are light weight and fast rolling...
@lackingpoint3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that my SJ Evo climbed better when I stiffen up the shock a little more than recommended and the carbon wheels big difference as well. The sizing is a little wierd . I'm 6'3" and have found with some slight adjustments I can ride an S4 just fine.
@leeabbott47133 жыл бұрын
For your sizing comment, can you elaborate on the adjustments you felt needed to fit the S4 size?
@lackingpoint3 жыл бұрын
@@leeabbott4713 I moved all but one of the spacers on the head tube under the handlebars to raise it up some and scooted the seat as far back on the rails as much as was allowed. The seat tube isn't slammed all the way down, I raised it up a couple of inches but it still stays clear to move around when I drop it down.
@kentao4 Жыл бұрын
I’m 6’2” and felt like my knees were at the handlebars on s4. Other than that @ 220, I have found exactly the same.
@luckyguy193 жыл бұрын
I'd have to agree, not an efficient climber. It has no pedaling platform. It truly feels like my 170mm Transition Spire climbs more efficiently. Although the EVO does have great traction while climbing. There have been climbs I was able to clean, that my more fit friend spun out on with his SB130.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Reminds me that I need to remember to mention in these videos that my climbs aren't overly technical but rather long, steep and sustained efforts... so for me and my terrain, pedal efficiency trumps traction for tecky sections. Thank you!
@pjsanab3 жыл бұрын
About the Transition Spire, does it make a downhill bike obsolete? Tell me the good and bad about it.
@luckyguy193 жыл бұрын
@@pjsanab It feels like it climbs better than my Stumpjumper Evo and is the most comfortable bike I've tried for the bike park. I ride Angel Fire bike park quite a bit and its just so fun there. For now it will be my only bike, I will get a shorter travel bike next year.
@TheJjyoung3333 жыл бұрын
@@luckyguy19 I disagree on poor climbing. Maybe my float x has different tune but my evo alloy climbs with absolutely no bob.
@austinpierce60533 жыл бұрын
I'm terribly sorry for a very generic question, but how do you think this thing pedals compared to the SB150? I'm aware they're different bikes. I've been on both, but just haven't gotten enough time in on either. Thanks for the great videos!! Keep em coming!
@pjsanab3 жыл бұрын
SB150 climbs almost as good as RipmoAF. Climbing wise it will be RipmoAF > Yeti SB150 > Stumpjumper EVO
@austinpierce60533 жыл бұрын
@@pjsanab thanks!!
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I’d have to ride them back to back… I don’t think the sb150 climbs as well as the ripmo. Ripmo is better than the evo
@nickadams31963 жыл бұрын
comparison to the V2 Sentinel?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Easier to ride than the Sentinel, maybe not as stable and feels shorter... not sure if it is or not haha
@nickadams31963 жыл бұрын
MTB yumyum climbs about same?
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to ride them back-to-back...
@pjsanab3 жыл бұрын
Many comparisons of those 2 online. Sentinel is more progressive and therefore climbs a bit more efficiently but the tradeoff is it feels harsher on the chatter (or less mid bump compliance). Now the Sentinel V2 do to the progression has more reserves for landing bigger jumps/drops.
@brandonwalker86113 жыл бұрын
Jason I love your reviews but I feel like you missed the mark on this one. It doesn’t seem like you played around with the headset or the seat stay adjustments at all. If it was just this bike without all of its adjustments it wouldn’t have won pinkbike bike of the year. The stay adjustments not only raise/lower the bb but they also lengthen/shorten the stays which is important. With all the adjustments it allows the bike to because a super snappy fun trail bike in the high/steep position and a super stable and planted enduro machine in the long/low. If you didn’t get to test at least half of the setting available, you didn’t truly ride this bike. I have owned a lot of bikes in this class (ripmo, lá sal peak, 2018 enduro, evil wreckoning v1) and there are bikes that climb better for sure. The ripmo puts the evo in a corner when climbing. But there is nothing with less travel and nothing the same class that descends as well as this bike in the low/long setting. Heck, it gives a lot of true enduro bikes a run for the money. I mean it can become slacker than the new enduro. And the ability to make it into a more sporty trail oriented bike for my every day rides is so nice. It’s not perfect but as a serial bike buyer/seller I’ve had a hard time finding a reason to get something else.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
I hear you! And totally wish I had more time to spend on this bike... and this channel. I had no idea this was "pinkbike bike of the year" and you have to understand, they can spend a lot of time on a bike for a review... it's their job. You can't even begin to imagine the hurdles in the way of me doing this channel... first, if I was the pinkbike guy doing reviews I'd have the bike for a 2 months or more just to noodle around on before even having to get out the camera gear to start filming and writing a script. All the while getting paid... I make like $2 an hour here lol, have a full time job and family along with other obligations and hobbies. Second, there are no bike companies sending me bikes to demo... I spend a lot of time trying to get bikes to ride and film. I don't have 80+ hours to dedicate to a video once I get a bike so, you get what I had time to do and that's the best I can do. In all reality, I gave people a look at the bike, and was able to compare it with other bikes I've ridden in the category... and that's more than what most other reviewers do... pinkbike, bikemag and many others area complete jokes in my opinion.... they likely didn't even dog the bike for not climbing all that well... because then they would get the ever important BIG S marketing money spent on their website... They say what they're paid to say.... basically reading from a script regurgitating bike jargin bs.... To your point, you're right... I didn't get a chance to discuss the depth of the bike geo and offerings..... I'll bet ya 80% of the people that buy this bike never change it from the configuration I rode it in anyway. And last of all, if I was on the payroll of most other reviewers making a promising living and able to provide for my family doing this, I would have delivered... but this channel isn't anywhere close to paying the bills so I give it the amount of time and attention I can and try not to beat myself up for not doing as well as the other deep pocketed legit bike reviewer channels or websites.
@Jgalaski84383 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum not OP, but just a random viewer wanting to say thanks and your review did exactly what it was intending with your limited available time. You put it in the common setting and provided a review based on that. Tried the low setting but I understand the dislike of pedal strikes. I will comment that I do think that PB did review this with a "it's not the best climber" comment. As OP stated, part of the reason it got BotY was because of its adjustability and thus it's versatility while having stellar down hill capability. That was what was more important to them, climbing efficiency is for you. Thanks again
@tonybasoni84433 жыл бұрын
Brandon,.....What are your thoughts of how the La Sal climbs? And also the Delano Peak if you have ridden that one?
@tonybasoni84433 жыл бұрын
@UClPQstHx-qJe-bPc-fAENcg ,....Very good. Thanks. Living in Utah, I kinda want to get a Utah bike. But the La Sal looks a little funky to me, but if it climbs really well, I guess I can overlook that.
@brandonwalker86113 жыл бұрын
@@tonybasoni8443 I really liked the la sal. I think it's one of the better climbers for that travel range. My buddy and I switched bikes the other day so he could ride my evo. The seat angle of his la sal was very apparent next to my evo. If you're only taking pedaling platform into account then it's definitely not quite the rocket ship that the ripmo is. But the very steep seat angle and minimal pedal bob for a Horst link bike put it just below the ripmo on fire road climbs. On a technical climb I think the seat angle and increased grip of the Horst link give it the edge. I haven't ridden the Delano. My understanding is that it has all the goods of the la sal in a shorter travel package. Either way the Fezzari is such a great price it's sometimes hard to justify much else in it's class.
@klassyken3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I'm currently on the stumpy evo and came from a Ripmo before that. On my evo I almost always ' lock out' the rear shock to climb, my ripmo very rarely did unless it was a fire road climb. My question is, what position were you in on the shock to climb? I find pretty much all fsr's need the lock out or middle setting at least, if you do that I have got pr's up vs my ripmo from that amazing eagle drive train. Thanks, kevin.
@mtbyumyum3 жыл бұрын
Kevin, thanks for your comment. This evo had a rs super deluxe shock, with a lock out and open setting... no middle setting. I switch between the two setting and ultimately left it open. Full lock out is meh in my opinion.... of course it climbed better locked out but feels like riding a 2x4
@klassyken3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I wish the bb was just a tad higher on the evo, next stop RM altitude 🤘
@TheJjyoung3333 жыл бұрын
@@klassyken i just received evo alloy. In open shock position with correct sag, there is no pedal bob. Lockout is not necessary on this bike. It is light years better than my giant and previous stumpjumper fsr.
@klassyken3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJjyoung333 🤥 hahahah
@alstar3002 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER great vid... But just to clarify, when you say Bike X doesn't climb as well as Bike Y, what do you mean specifically? My Switchblade climbs well, but its the technical climbing that I feel could be better. So up the fireroads etc, when I mash the pedal the bike moves forward with authority. No bob, very efficient, but up rocky technical stuff the rear seems a bit stiff and I tend to deflect and spin out. As opposed to a glued to the ground bike like some of the plush Enduros. In the future can you be more specific in that explanation? Also, would you say the RM Altitude is one of those "descends as well but climbs better than the EVO" bikes? Rock On Jason!
@Mikesonbikes2 жыл бұрын
Pros closet is ridiculous. Pink bike is the best place to buy used!
@meteormedia70213 жыл бұрын
This bike is about as interesting as the taste of unflavoured oatmeal.
@ADRASTEIA03 Жыл бұрын
Great bike , rides smooth kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing .