MTG - B/G Golgari Philosophy, Strengths, and Weaknesses: A Magic: The Gathering Color Pie Study!

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TheManaSource

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@inkblot6626
@inkblot6626 5 жыл бұрын
Green: there is a natural order of predators and prey Black: cool, let’s be the predators
@syn9669
@syn9669 2 жыл бұрын
perfect
@SantanaBanana47
@SantanaBanana47 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@CasualIvory
@CasualIvory 6 жыл бұрын
Green mages: "We must share with the multiverse our peaceful ways! By force!"
@QuantoniumGaming
@QuantoniumGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@coltinyancey3671
@coltinyancey3671 8 жыл бұрын
Black refuses to lose, and green refuses to be overpowered. Golgari isnt evil its just completely unwilling to be overwhelmed. Nothing is off limits the deck is a library of options, the yard is a field of threats to be returned later.
@hurricanestarang
@hurricanestarang 5 жыл бұрын
I have never in my life even seen anyone with their name spelled the same way as me. Glad to meet you Mr. Yancey.
@dwaynebrice1697
@dwaynebrice1697 5 жыл бұрын
A force of nature. Growth regardless of everything else, do anything to grow. Death is as natural as death.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who favors green/white and pretty much avoids black, all I can say is that zombies animated by fungi spores are still zombies none the less and thus still is display disrespect for the dead and their mourners as well as a defiance of the natural order.
@notorious.scoundrel
@notorious.scoundrel 2 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer here's the thing, they're temporary and wil eventually return to the earth. Their undeath is used for a specific purpose, golgari sees value in both life and death. It's a pause on the cycle, not a stop, so once that purpose is met, the cycle is restored.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 2 жыл бұрын
@@notorious.scoundrel Yeah, but as far as the Selesnya are concerned, the end doesn't justify the means.
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
Really hope you enjoy the new episode!
@wmeno9942
@wmeno9942 8 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource ITS NOT WORST CARDS EVER
@isaacl8963
@isaacl8963 8 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, despite the fact that it's not a worst card ever.
@shaden489
@shaden489 8 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource excellent as always so when's the next worst cards ever
@richardsmith2719
@richardsmith2719 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the series. Not that my vote is the most important, but I would appreciate a tech of Dimir or Selesnia next.
@bububaba7980
@bububaba7980 8 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource wuhuuuuuuuu nice!
@SquirrelSword
@SquirrelSword 8 жыл бұрын
Someone who embraces green and black can also be a powerful leader in a group. Their green aspects make them very focused on community, and their black side can push that focus to extremes. A green/black person is someone who values their friends greatly and forges strong bonds, but more in the way animals do as opposed to the rigorous structure of Orzov. However in this a black/green person often goes farther than most would. This is why green/black prefers smaller, more intimate groups. Worse still is that this green focused group becomes the new black focused self. They may do anything to protect and help their friends, even at the expense of outsiders. Need some money for food? Your black/green friend may steal it from someone else in order to give it to you, and take none of it for themselves. That's just what good friends do, right? And just as that sense of community can bring them together with friends, their black drives can push them to want to dominate that community, making them want to be the leader or head of their friends. Not because they want to rule them specifically, but because it's just what's best for everyone!
@Randomdudefromtheinternet
@Randomdudefromtheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
Best comparison I could say are (spoilers for Attack on Titan and Dragon Age Inquisition): Eréndira Yeager is a good example, he activated the rumbling to eradicate the rest of humanity, but his intention is so that the people of Paradis don’t ever need to be in danger of invasion (specially after a century of “his people” getting eaten by monsters created by a nation across the ocean) And Solas from DAI, he wants to return elves, his people, their immortality, after trying to free them from literally an eternity of slavery, but he’s willing to sacrifice literally the whole world to do so, to commit the greatest genocide ever. They are the kind of people that make you think “thank God they’re on our side”.
@mrmulti5326
@mrmulti5326 2 жыл бұрын
I know that this comment is 5 years old, but i really liked this topic! What you are describing is exactly Orzhov. See, Orzhov isn't rigorous, if you want to participate of the guild, you need to know where you are going. Orzhov care about their members, they dont just use them and discard, because they need to make their members happy to use them later. The guild that is specialized in re-use things is Golgari. Because of their predatory style of leadership, they can't use reason to see things more clearly, but Orzhov is all about manipulating you doing good things to you, and if that dont work out, the things will get ugly. Golgari don't care about the well being of others, because if they die, they were weak enough to not survive. And Golgari dont have sense of structure, they care about the most pure form of strength, Orzhov care about every type of power, including social. So, the Golgari can't be good leaders by themselves, because a Golgari character don't need others to accomplish its goals, but the Orzhov needs and likes it! For example, the embodiment of Golgari is Venom from the comics, because he is vicious but flexible. He is very centered, but he is a brute force. He uses cunning (black) to plan the best way to use he's superior strength (green). A Orzhov character, just for comparison, is Magneto. He cares about mutants, but despise those that aren't mutants. He uses the social (white) to get more power (black)
@joshrobinson2409
@joshrobinson2409 2 ай бұрын
I can agree with this golgari is my favorite, particularly the graveyard centered ones
@kaxn
@kaxn 8 жыл бұрын
Green according to Nissa: Peace through genocide.
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
Before they changed her character and made her boring? Agreed :P
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 8 жыл бұрын
Akroma is the same way though
@phantasticgoose
@phantasticgoose 8 жыл бұрын
but racism is baaaaaaad!
@praetorianmars1933
@praetorianmars1933 8 жыл бұрын
Gul Pathfinder Under most circumstances, yes, racism is bad. However, racism can be an extremely useful tool for character development. It helps to make the character seem more relatable and allows them to grow. I reckon wizards should have just left her the way she was
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Anton Christenson Yup I liked her racist and xenophobic. She had so much potential in character development. But planeswalkers are the brand in mtg. So havin a couple bad ones okay, but several. Also, she was the strongest one in terms of character development. Garruk was not really optimal either. Like a complete rework would have to be in place to make him relatable, just watch the professor's video on the Planeswalker.
@WilhelmScreamer
@WilhelmScreamer 8 жыл бұрын
An important idea not discussed in contrasting the colors is that green is a big believer in the idea of destiny, but black is morally opposed to such notions.
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
If I spent more time talking about the opposing natures, this would have been mentioned, but it is relatively minor when compared to the over-arching issues if that makes sense.
@Jay15199
@Jay15199 8 жыл бұрын
WilhelmScreamer Green gives the power of growth, but black decides who gets that power.
@ptm6fishtank10
@ptm6fishtank10 6 жыл бұрын
Your analysis of this color combination is spot on. I am relatively new to the game and built a Green/Black deck because I was interested in abusing mana ramping mechanics and GY floating. After some play testing and some tweaking I finally found the balance within my deck that provides sufficient mana to cast spells such as murder, and drop chupacabras on the opposing player, while abusing GY floats to throw either sacraficed or dead chupacabras back into battle. After watching this video I actually understand why the deck works so well even though I have little exposure to the game. I can see the lore in my deck and now think of my deck as a forest of decay full of cemeteries and foul orchards under the constant watchful eye of Liliana the Necromancer. She guards herself with Chupacabras while committing heinous acts of murder against anyone who would challenge her presence or power within the forest. She conducts a Macabre Waltz and other Necromancer spells to manipulate life and death. Marwyn the Nurturer has joined her in her forest of decay as a General with a small contingency of elves that worship her and her ability to manipulate death. They provide her support and the resources necessary to retain her power and are willing to throw themselves at the enemy if needed to ensure her survival. When all else fails, Liliana is willing to sacrifice herself to resurrect her chupacabras or any other creature that will ensure her victory. I thoroughly enjoyed the video and will continue to watch the rest of the series that you have completed. I now have a better understanding of my deck and it's mechanics and why it works the way that it does. Thank you for the great content. Liliana sends her love.... -PTM6 Fish Tank
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 8 жыл бұрын
The Simic Combine: Where plastic surgery isn't just socially accepted, it's socially required.
@MrGogetaify
@MrGogetaify 8 жыл бұрын
Can Dimir come next? And love how you are handling these videos!
@aurox44
@aurox44 8 жыл бұрын
GoldenCreeper081 DIMIR!
@glenmorgan8148
@glenmorgan8148 8 жыл бұрын
Mirko Vosk, Lazav, Oona... Dimir Da Boss
@shanelenhart7820
@shanelenhart7820 8 жыл бұрын
One word to describe Dimir ( my favorite combo): Phenax
@kuroshinko427
@kuroshinko427 8 жыл бұрын
Wydwen player representing!
@Krimarieable
@Krimarieable 8 жыл бұрын
Dimir all the way!
@gemofmagic9436
@gemofmagic9436 8 жыл бұрын
The other things I think about Golgari is the idea of the unseelie fae from earth mythology. Unseelie fae are ugly, twisted, frightening, dark. But they are not necessarily 'evil'. They are powerful and connected to nature. I really want to make a black/green unseelie deck someday :)
@GreyGaymer
@GreyGaymer Жыл бұрын
To me, it feels like Golgari is the fundamental examination of the "flip" of the life and death cycle. It's hard to have a cycle if it doesn't go the whole circle, and that's golgari's job. Carrying the Death Part, back through to Life. Golgari to me represents decomposition, and making sure that even in death, things have a role, and can keep the ball rolling
@pokegard
@pokegard Жыл бұрын
We need to keep the ball rolling on this whole sacrifice thing - Ryan George
@czairkolmoslink5952
@czairkolmoslink5952 8 жыл бұрын
I have three ^^ Cult of Rakdos, Gruul Clans and Golgari Swarm. All three are my fave aggressive, powerful, willing to hurt your self to make your self more powerful, and lastly always bringing back life that was lost.
@DarthBatman420
@DarthBatman420 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Golgari. It was the second build I did (mono black being the first) and it worked perfectly with my playstyle. Great vid/series. Boros or Orzhov next.
@CabalTherapist
@CabalTherapist 8 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, unashamed Golgari Swarm member since City of Guilds. Great seeing some coverage for my favourite colour pair and guild. One thing I miss from the original Ravnica lore was the Golgari's place in Ravnica, they ruled the undercity through charity: their rot farms grew mushrooms and other fungi to feed the poor and downtrodden and kept the sewers safe (while keeping themselves as the apex predators there). Also something that isn't mentioned enough is how Jarad became the Lich-Lord: when he was killed trying to protect his son he forced his own soul back into his mangled body to continue the fight along side Argus Kos. What a champion
@mpalazzolo1995
@mpalazzolo1995 8 жыл бұрын
Dimir needs to be brought out of the shadows Wedge. I can't think of any one better than you to unveil their secrets.
@fiddlestyxify
@fiddlestyxify 8 жыл бұрын
"To understand Golgari, we have to dig deep..." We see what you did there ; )
@Simon-ow6td
@Simon-ow6td 8 жыл бұрын
These are your best videos along with the lore videos! Orzhov next please!
@denubisx
@denubisx 8 жыл бұрын
Philosophically speaking, at 4:15 (or so, scrolling back after the end) it feels like black is giving up it's "absolute primacy" -- the pure unbridled ambition to never acnkolwedge a force stronger and submits to "nature" as a source for ever greater power. Black's position to green is the "worm in the apple," consuming natures strengths (but submitting as well) to gain ever greater *personal* and *local* power. Just clicking through all the cards you showed in black/green, (5:20 onwards), they feel impatient. Green has succumbed to temptation and allowed its natural pace to be corrupted by black. Black has surrendered to the greater, but unpresent power that is nature and has grown ever stronger *in the present*. I absolutely agree with you that these are ontologically neutral compromises. Powerful, uncaring, but neutral. The dead and nature have no care to what use they are put, merely that they are put to use. Excellent, excellent series.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Brian Ballsun-Stanton It is as if the dead cannot wait to get a purpose. As if they are too impatient to be nourishment for a plant, they want to have a purpose now, not in a couple decades.
@denubisx
@denubisx 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That subversion to accelerate the natural cycle and benefit thereby is the compromise to unfettered ambition (submission to a greater power), but for local, proximate, gain.
@ClassMRule
@ClassMRule 3 жыл бұрын
Its my strong opinion that if there was any guild on Ravnica that could be considered "the good guys" it would be Golgari
@militaryMP123
@militaryMP123 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this series. It's amazing to see where enemy colors find common ground in their identity theory. I personally think the you should finish the enemy colors before going onto allied, so either Simic, Boros or Orhzov for the next video.
@HayleyGlauser
@HayleyGlauser 7 жыл бұрын
I love this series. You're descriptions are so vibrant and really help me to better understand how I want to play. Awesome.
@sheilaghoul7019
@sheilaghoul7019 8 жыл бұрын
Yay! Golgari is my favorite guild! Personally I'd like to see Dimir next, but I think you should probably do Boros or Orzhov next since you seem to be doing enemy combinations first.
@MurphaLurph13
@MurphaLurph13 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great series! I love Ravnica because of the guilds express their color combos purely and with personality, so I'm glad you're breaking them down. You've already done guilds with blue, red, black, and green; so I'd just like to see anything with white in it for the next video.
@TopPigg
@TopPigg 8 жыл бұрын
the Dimir guild, please please the Dimir guild. i've lived as a loyal member of this guild since i started playing magic a few years ago and i want others to understand more about the 1 guild that remains shadowed in mystery.
@nikoazure5235
@nikoazure5235 8 жыл бұрын
TopPigg I may be Goblin get back in the FUCKING cannon Izzet guy but I so love me my Dimir allies
@hugodiazroa
@hugodiazroa 6 жыл бұрын
+
@tonydanatop4912
@tonydanatop4912 5 жыл бұрын
You mean those mail men ? Who do absolutely nothing suspicious "wink"
@grndragon7777777
@grndragon7777777 5 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that a dimir guild would want people that know about them
@Carbocreates
@Carbocreates 8 жыл бұрын
These are the perfect mix of lore and flavor to get someone pumped into making 2 colored decks! Love the series so far! MORE PLEASE!!! :D
@mattswinton1001
@mattswinton1001 8 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Green and Black are united not by "death is relevant" but by utilitarianism. Both colors believe in using every bit of something. For Green that manifests as the circle of life, and for black that manifests as resurrecting the dude who insulted your hair to serve you drinks from a mug made of their own skull. Golgari therefore is less the guild of death and more that of utilitarianism. This of course leads to dealing with death but from a perspective of recycling rather than one of "uh well both of these colors are chill with graveyards so we made Golgari the graveyard guild.
@ninjabreadman22
@ninjabreadman22 6 жыл бұрын
You just said the same thing from a different perspective. Utilitarianism by definition makes use of death and is often defined by the lengths it will go to to utilize death. Death is a constant on Ravnica, and how you approach it and deal with it will define who you truly align with. Green and black both share a common, utilitarian philosophy on death. "Death is relevant/useful, it cannot be overlooked" Green because the dead are perfectly good food to return to the cycle, black because the dead are perfectly good bodies to exploit.
@Edawg-uj7tn
@Edawg-uj7tn 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video wedge! Coolest part for me was seeing pictures of cards to add to my golgari commander deck
@CloudCuckooCountry
@CloudCuckooCountry 8 жыл бұрын
Love this series. Keep it up! Looking forward to the rest of the blue guilds.
@remainprofane7732
@remainprofane7732 4 жыл бұрын
The Golgari understand power and it’s benefits, but on the flip side they empathize with the sick and the impoverished. They will accept you for what you are, because there’s everything in nature has a part to play and not all of it is pretty, or big, or loud. They’re the definition of the underdog.
@tcat6596
@tcat6596 8 жыл бұрын
No love for Boros in the comments smh.
@NecroAsphyxia
@NecroAsphyxia 8 жыл бұрын
T Cat Not even Wizards loves Boros xD
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
T Cat I love boros! Bring order to the world? How, not sure smash something, someone, somewhere, somewhat!!! What was I saying?
@TheMovingGrass
@TheMovingGrass 7 жыл бұрын
I represent the Akros lands of Boros!
@joshrobinson2409
@joshrobinson2409 2 ай бұрын
Boros sucks never met a boros deck i didnt beat aleast once.
@thedrumist1784
@thedrumist1784 7 жыл бұрын
The way Wedge describes the colors just makes me fall in love with magic even more.
@harrymanback5133
@harrymanback5133 8 жыл бұрын
Orzhov could be interesting for the next video.
@EzzieEzra
@EzzieEzra 8 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this series yesterday and yes please continue and discuss all the color combinations!! I'm a rather new player and only played DOTP since 2013. I have watched some video's about the lore of the magic universe but never encountered such educational video's on the foundation of magic. I love everything about the series so far, especially the words you use to eloborate the differences and relationships between the colors. After I watched the video's, I immediately wanted to play a game of magic, so imo you are doing a great job with this series! Btw, I love knowledge and nature. So I'm espacially looking forward to the discussion of the simic guild :)!
@JohhnyOutcast74
@JohhnyOutcast74 8 жыл бұрын
Based on the color pie chart you talked about, I could see how the other guilds are built. Looking forward to Azorius guild and if you continue this series, would you talk about the 3 color guilds? Maybe.. Esper? I'm glad to watch a series like this and hope to see more soon! Thanks for putting in the work dude
@meinwerker5
@meinwerker5 8 жыл бұрын
all hail the selesnyan conclave! great series!
@94jetsfan
@94jetsfan 8 жыл бұрын
Drinking game: take a shot every time he says life or death... comment afterwards if you are still alive
@Rukathesoldier
@Rukathesoldier 8 жыл бұрын
I died and got reanimated
@stevenwigfield9374
@stevenwigfield9374 4 жыл бұрын
"Life or death" or "life" or "death" because that's an important distinction that could be the meaning between life or death
@rmcminiking
@rmcminiking 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in an alcohol-induced coma for four years because of this comment Don't play using moonshine
@BP-dn9nv
@BP-dn9nv 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the Golgari are unlike the Selesnya in that they embrace the ugly side of nature whereas the conclave just shows the pretty parts of it.
@damienrice881
@damienrice881 8 жыл бұрын
R/G next please!
@IronTigrex
@IronTigrex 8 жыл бұрын
RELEASE THE BEASTS! SUMMON THE DRAGONS!
@conoramoureux4630
@conoramoureux4630 8 жыл бұрын
Nestor Moreno My two colors. why I like both Timur and jund
@SteveVerstaka
@SteveVerstaka 8 жыл бұрын
First deck I ever made was a good old ramp/ stompy Gruul deck.
@connerhoward7075
@connerhoward7075 8 жыл бұрын
Nestor Moreno gruul for the win, always. I don't see how green is so...docile. I destroy the board when I want, and don't mention what red can do.
@matthewerickson9219
@matthewerickson9219 7 жыл бұрын
I just started playing magic (got tired of yugiohs bs) green red was the first deck I built
@inkblot6626
@inkblot6626 4 жыл бұрын
I also see the connection being a complete disregard for artificial rules. They are pragmatic and amoral
@TheRedGauntlet
@TheRedGauntlet 8 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Golgari is my favourite color combination
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 8 жыл бұрын
Your team is doing a great job with these videos! I love how you analyze the two colors and then look for an "in".
@sammcguire3798
@sammcguire3798 8 жыл бұрын
RAKDOS!!!!!!!
@thebassistsoldier
@thebassistsoldier 8 жыл бұрын
Sam McGuire FOR THE GLORY OF RAKDOS!!!
@xxxxsilentscreamxxxx
@xxxxsilentscreamxxxx 8 жыл бұрын
Sam McGuire PARTAY HARD!
@jordangarner87
@jordangarner87 8 жыл бұрын
Sam McGuire The color of CHAOS!!!
@eyeees3923
@eyeees3923 8 жыл бұрын
azorius master race!
@shmergulflargamish7686
@shmergulflargamish7686 8 жыл бұрын
Me: Yay, Gruul... People like Gruul, right?
@Shadow298
@Shadow298 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, Wedge, thanks for all the hard work. Would love to see a Boros video to understand how those two opposising colours work.
@ForgottenFighter05
@ForgottenFighter05 8 жыл бұрын
Where my Orzhov mages at?
@garrettvoigtsberger9622
@garrettvoigtsberger9622 8 жыл бұрын
Right here my brotha
@karkenae2159
@karkenae2159 8 жыл бұрын
For the wealth and power!
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
ForgottenFighter Come on, if only you used your organization for something interesting. I am now forced to punch you for breaking the law on the number of spirits allowed in one specific place. Now, now, we all know how picky Azorious gets when they can't read their papers properly with all you spirits distorting the air around. Not to mention the golgari are complaining again about your corpse stealing. Please. save it I can see an illegal zombie beIN used here. What, no that permit has expired. Well you just added another couple punches for lying. What? punishment? of course it is decapitation. I cannkt allow you to just kill people for their organs because they cannot pay and kept their souls because the debt was not settled. Contract? What contract? it is burning now. Hey we all know where this is going just comply and let the nice Azorious guy condemn you, I mean judge you. Me? naw, I am just here to enforce.
@bobmichaelsen2891
@bobmichaelsen2891 8 жыл бұрын
Greatness, at any cost.
@thenationalplaneswalkerass7079
@thenationalplaneswalkerass7079 8 жыл бұрын
lets go life gain and exploiting the people pf ravnica for their money
@silentslade
@silentslade 8 жыл бұрын
I loved this video!!! .... I wanted to comment about the section: peaceful within, uneasy and driven to convert without: I am not sure if that's exactly the philosophy of green (at least in terms of being driven to convert) The way I see It, it is more a natural inclination to grow as large and strong as possible, not necessarily to convert but to display its strength via its size as a celebration of Harmony(inner peace / cooperation) and life(strength). Pretty much it isn't that green is uneasy, its more that Green by instinct must grow to sustain life. I am loving this series! it is my favorite you've done since the lore videos! I can't wait for more!
@jackmcfrosty4381
@jackmcfrosty4381 8 жыл бұрын
House Dimir and Orzhov syndicate would really interesting!
@stormraven8484
@stormraven8484 7 жыл бұрын
Very good episode as a Green black player I agree it is using both sides of nature life and death. with regeneration and death touch are two of its main things they both share. I have always viewed them as two sides of the same coin. that is why their decks are tricky to play at times.
@Wilson27PT
@Wilson27PT 8 жыл бұрын
Orzovah, Rakdos or Simic next!!
@mordred158
@mordred158 8 жыл бұрын
I love the constant barrage of NOT EVIL message, we golgari mages are often times looked down upon.
@TheAudioInjection
@TheAudioInjection 8 жыл бұрын
This series is wonderful! Amazing job, guys :)
@chaosgilleon6433
@chaosgilleon6433 8 жыл бұрын
When I play Magic I believe in a chaotic game, (and not in the Mana color of red) I believe in chaos through the color green the ability to grow beyond all control. I would love to see the next video be about how green and blue cooperate to achieve a greater goal.
@ares6037
@ares6037 8 жыл бұрын
Do gruul next please.
@matthewbeasley7425
@matthewbeasley7425 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! Ain't no party like a Xenagos party!
@MrMaxamumdes
@MrMaxamumdes 8 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite color combo in the game. This was an amazing video, and perfectly highlighted the golgari.
@nateszigeti3653
@nateszigeti3653 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing my two favs, I hope Simic is next
@nexttoradio
@nexttoradio 8 жыл бұрын
For the past month or 2 ive been running a D&D game based in a Ravnica-inspired world where the guilds are actually nations/factions on a continent, and my party has ended up spending a lot of time in golgari lands. This couldn't be more perfectly timed.
@ihgamingihgamin0072
@ihgamingihgamin0072 8 жыл бұрын
Next guild you should go over should be the Dimir.
@okthisisbs
@okthisisbs 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using these videos to help with my Characters in my Ravnica D&D game. Very in understanding how they work.
@stephenorr6636
@stephenorr6636 8 жыл бұрын
Great Job! I can't Wait until you Discuss Selesnya! :D
@AndrewGreen84
@AndrewGreen84 8 жыл бұрын
YAY! I was hoping beyond hope that you would do Golgari next! Brilliant work as always!
@dancing_mango1214
@dancing_mango1214 8 жыл бұрын
I would be down for an Orzhov video next, it is my second favourite guild, after Izzet.
@MrInfernoblade10
@MrInfernoblade10 8 жыл бұрын
Been my favorite guild ever since I started! Love my grave power deck!
@nathan1x
@nathan1x 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, and explanation, though I thought bits of it were repetitive (e.g. 'Green and Black couldn't be more different'), I also felt that it portrayed Green as a submissive part of the Green Black relationship, as though it had been corrupt by Black, and it merely had to get used to the limits of Green... I wonder if that power dynamic might have come across differently if you began by talking about Green instead. I agree full heartedly that Golgari isn't inherently evil, but I don't think you really explain why so... but still Great video! When is worst cards ever coming back :P
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
Golgari isn't inherently evil because the idea and even act of manipulating death isn't evil outright. That can be seen from a lot of different directions and calling that evil would be supremely subjective. As far as green being the submissive color in the color pair, it kind of is. I anchored black first for a reason. Black is willing to do ANYTHING to get what it wants. Anything at all. Green was already content where it was for the most part.
@nathan1x
@nathan1x 8 жыл бұрын
That's a really interesting take! Thanks for the reply!
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
Also, about the two legendary creatures he showed at the end when he said that Golgari isn't inherently evil play along in the lore with what he said. If I remember correctly, those two are twins. The sister, Savra, is morally evil, yet beautiful, while the brother, Jarad, is morally good, yet ugly. He didn't turn into a lich for simple selfishness either. He sacrifices his life to save his son and to contribute to the safety of the world of Ravnica, then he came back as a lich to lead the Golgari without letting go out of control and to stop it from being used by people like Savra(the leader before him) for their own personal ambitions. As such, in the inner conflict of ambition and harmony, Savra and Jarad have both, but are closer to one over the other. The role of the Golgari is to maintain the natural order of the cycle of life and death, meaning both to stop it from being too excessive and stop it from being too little. Basically, in a world that happens to pretty much being a singe world-wide city, the Golgari's role is to take care of the undercity, of the corpse that keep on accumulating from all mortal forms of life on the plane, and they have been doing so for over 10,000 years. One last thing, a quote from the flavor text of the Golgari Signet: "Depending on your point of view, the seal represents a proud guardian of the natural cycle or one who has sold her soul to darkness for eternal life." I personally believe that this is referring to Jarad and Savra. But at the same time, it also represents the entirety of the Golgari Guild members, who can be perceived as one or the other, as well as being both in some cases. Technically speaking, by reviving himself into a Lich, Jarad DID kind of sell his soul to darkness for eternal life while also doing so for the purpose of continuing to guard the natural cycle.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
What's more, technically speaking, the Golgari are pragmatic. They don't let anything go to waste, they recycle and re-use anything that can be, even if that is flesh. Hence the Scavenge mechanic.^^
@nathan1x
@nathan1x 8 жыл бұрын
I Like it! Thanks for that insight :) I think this colour combination is worth a much deeper analysis than is possible in the 10mins that this video admirably manages to condense it into!
@horrorreadersanonymous3533
@horrorreadersanonymous3533 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, I will say i feel the cyclical power/theme of using: life, death, and unlife of the Golgari was missed out on in your review; but ultimately I cannot complain about how it was handled overall. B/G is probably my favorite color-pair for creature based strategies and tactics.
@ckillian3421
@ckillian3421 8 жыл бұрын
ORZHOV...PLS !!! wud love an analysis on that colour combination
@nickclutter6315
@nickclutter6315 5 жыл бұрын
C Killian welll said
@REON-pw5ze
@REON-pw5ze 7 жыл бұрын
awesome vid, get me so excited to play with my recently assembled Golgari Dredge. last time i played with my friend,was against a Rakdos Aggro, and i have a 3-2 win. wow
@EpouvantailMasque
@EpouvantailMasque 8 жыл бұрын
I feel Simic or Rakdos would be interesting colours to explore
@themanacurve3452
@themanacurve3452 8 жыл бұрын
I just absolutely love this series. I listen to this while making decks that have are of this guild's colors, but I also make a lot of Shard and Wedge decks (no play on words here... at all...) If there was any way that you could also do these guild philosophies on those colors (once your done with the guilds, of course) that would be absolutely fantastic!
@KeysofIDproductions
@KeysofIDproductions 8 жыл бұрын
Seeing which guild has the most mentions looks like either Dimir or Rakdos should be next on the list.
@gamehero6816
@gamehero6816 4 жыл бұрын
The what and Rakdos?
@KeysofIDproductions
@KeysofIDproductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@gamehero6816 Dimir is UB (blue and black) colors.
@ofcmerchant7442
@ofcmerchant7442 6 жыл бұрын
By far the best source for guild explanations! Thank you.
@shmergulflargamish7686
@shmergulflargamish7686 8 жыл бұрын
Gruul, all the way. My first deck was Gruul, so I've always had a connection to the color combo.
@guardbreak4034
@guardbreak4034 8 жыл бұрын
I love these series! I can't wait till the Boros colour combination video comes out
@TheyDarthElmo
@TheyDarthElmo 8 жыл бұрын
Azorius all the way, I am the law!
@brettjacobson4600
@brettjacobson4600 8 жыл бұрын
DarthElmo I am the law. (dredd)
@TheyDarthElmo
@TheyDarthElmo 8 жыл бұрын
Brett Jacobson LAAAAAAAAWWWWWW! (Judge Griffin)
@standinginaweofamonument
@standinginaweofamonument 8 жыл бұрын
Joey Belladonna is that you?
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
DarthElmo While you are too busy making law I am here enforcing them. At least do something. I had to burn a couple of goblins for burning houses and cut a couple of hands for illegal use of armaments. Meanwhile you were to busy deciding what a Weird was. Just stop it, make them illegal and smash them.
@seryntheon8195
@seryntheon8195 8 жыл бұрын
Az is best guild, easily the strongest one.
@indestruct1ble217
@indestruct1ble217 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVED this video. I play black/green EDH led by Mazirek Kraul Death Priest (broken commander btw) but i loved your in deep analysis of the Golgari!
@lowlangsempire7901
@lowlangsempire7901 8 жыл бұрын
orzhov next!
@Subject6x
@Subject6x 8 жыл бұрын
i agree completely with your assessment, and you are correct about people assuming black is always negative. you have done a great job in both explaining the color pie and the guilds thus far. i can only hope you continue this great work, and that you eventually break down the tri-color groups as well. kudos
@Supsup516
@Supsup516 8 жыл бұрын
AZORIUS COME ON!!!!!
@Spideysenses67
@Spideysenses67 8 жыл бұрын
YES! I WANT TO SEE THIS!!!
@ronniegeddes5072
@ronniegeddes5072 8 жыл бұрын
I loved the episode. I would like to see the Orzhov one. Your take on the Golgari was interesting. I would add an emphasis on the patience it seems to lend black which is by its nature impatient whereas Golgari mechanics seem to require structure before anything can be done.
@michaelislost7164
@michaelislost7164 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like we're going through enemy colors? Boros --> Simic --> Orzhov are next?
@a.gentleman5441
@a.gentleman5441 8 жыл бұрын
Skullbriar is my jam. Golgari is where it's at. Some of the most fun combo decks and all the zombies!
@silent7105
@silent7105 8 жыл бұрын
How about the Dimir next please
@princessboggy
@princessboggy 7 жыл бұрын
great series! I already love playing magic but this made me fall in love with it all over again.
@jacksonbowns1087
@jacksonbowns1087 8 жыл бұрын
No love for the Boros Legion? I guess people just don't like fanatics for order and justice.
@Azraekos
@Azraekos 8 жыл бұрын
He'll do boros eventually. thing is, Wedge hates red so we might be waiting a while for it.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Jackson Bowns What are you talking about? Who doesn't love peace and security through any means necessary? Want peace? punch all those who oppose it. What security? Threaten those who threaten it. What to stop terrorism? Just scare the terrorists! Boros the color of vigilantism. To bad people never get creative on that side. Like Batman has boros in him, with blue, so jeskai?
@jacksonbowns1087
@jacksonbowns1087 8 жыл бұрын
ODDnanref See someone who gets it!
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Jackson Bowns Yup, Boros wants to teach by giving people a taste of what they have done.
@Wolfen5207
@Wolfen5207 8 жыл бұрын
Boros is by far my favorite color combo to use in this game, so I'd like to see the vigilante angels of the Boros Legion make an appearance in this series sooner rather than later.
@filipbonek8629
@filipbonek8629 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting take on B/G Wedge, I really enjoy this new series! I was struggling to think of things green and black had in common and could only really think of one. Their unrelenting inevitability. Death eventually occurs which black understands and it is what drives it to be ambitious to achieve its goals before that occurs (and sometimes even death does not stop it). Green like you mentioned is kind of fanatical and possesses a tenacity similar to blacks ambition to set an ideal order it envisions. Both see death as an ultimate end that cuts short their ambitions and thus both manipulate it or work hard to overcome it.
@TrentonWise
@TrentonWise 8 жыл бұрын
Simic all the way
@theredsorcerer7764
@theredsorcerer7764 8 жыл бұрын
do the evolution with 80% more frog
@omgwtfbbqsauceboss
@omgwtfbbqsauceboss 8 жыл бұрын
and 10% goo and bits
@theredsorcerer7764
@theredsorcerer7764 8 жыл бұрын
and 5% elf and 5% zombie
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe mix a little frog in there. You know, frogs are good at fogging the board. Maybe a zombie frog so it doea not die. Make it slimy so it is hard to hit, capture and kill. I do not see the need for elf, fogs do not need to know, they just need to be triggered. Who wants pointy a pointy eared frog? Actually that is pretty cool, let's add the elf for that. Pointy cool ears on the frog. Maybe some horns? Something so it can regenerate the fog it makes, dry ice? any suggestions?
@theredsorcerer7764
@theredsorcerer7764 8 жыл бұрын
A lizard frog elf wizard yeah science hasn't gone to far yet.
@pablooldaq2816
@pablooldaq2816 8 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I really enjoy you series on color philosophy, very insightful. I particularly love Golgari, my main commander is Savra which I think has the best description of the Golgari in her flavor text. I think Golgari represents the best two-of combination of colors in Mtg, so extremely opposed and yet closest to each other than to any other color, as you brilliantly explain.
@clancyolsen7006
@clancyolsen7006 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Azorious next!
@schwarzertee7586
@schwarzertee7586 8 жыл бұрын
Golgari is one of my most favorite if not the most favorite color combination and I think you're right: Golgari and Black in particular needs some good PR.
@fausttheapollyon4655
@fausttheapollyon4655 8 жыл бұрын
orzhov next please
@animemaniac2
@animemaniac2 8 жыл бұрын
WB Vampire/Angel was my first love on original Instrad but my second love was Golgari. awesome video, Wedge!
@Methuselah1997
@Methuselah1997 8 жыл бұрын
Dimir for sure
@Shredkowski
@Shredkowski 8 жыл бұрын
When I first started playing Magic, I quickly found myself to be a Gruul mage. Over time I grew accustomed to the idea of taking advantage of cards already in my graveyard (Scavenging Ooze, Whip of Erebos, Deathrite, etc.). I think overall, I've become a Jund mage, but I'm starting to favor the Golgari side more than the Gruul. Your explanation of how black adds to the life cycle that Green accepts basically pinpointed what got me interested in the color combination.
@serperior1208
@serperior1208 8 жыл бұрын
Dimir please
@Virus16th
@Virus16th 8 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to Simic! Hope you cover them next!
@ThePoketroller
@ThePoketroller 8 жыл бұрын
can we get gruul?
@JohnnyDeLeo1
@JohnnyDeLeo1 8 жыл бұрын
Best color combo ever!!! I run Meren as a commander and she is my favorite deck I have ever built! Nothing better than watching someone try to board wipe you and bring it all back while laughing in their faces!
@brianwise5850
@brianwise5850 8 жыл бұрын
have you thought about doing the 3 colored combinations as well? watching this i was wondering how abzan reflects some of the golgari philosophy?
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Brian Wise It does, it has the life relationship. It was about a community that strove for power through community and the accumulated traditions and knowledge of their ancestors. Black and green made the commuting with the dead easier, both as means of revenge and as means of guidance and protection. The white and green brought the community, the connectedness to each other both those alive and those dead. The white and black combination brought the religiousness of the clan, and their cult for the dead, as well as their internal struggle to gain power.
@brianwise5850
@brianwise5850 8 жыл бұрын
ODDnanref i know, but its that thought process where your sitting their listening to these discussions about each ravnica guild and see how these same interest appear on other planes within the game of magic.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 8 жыл бұрын
Brian Wise "Where you are sitting there listening" Not necessarily planes, but the color combination. Yes,I know what you mean. He has a voice that makes me want to listen to him saying those things.
@afrosty96
@afrosty96 8 жыл бұрын
not just abzan, but other shards too. like the volatility that red adds to the mix in jund.
@LiamKanda
@LiamKanda 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Golgari is such a misunderstood colour combo (to be honest anything with black in it is), I'm glad you are shedding some insight into their philosophy. If I could make a suggestion, I would like you to do your next video on Orzhov? Examining how enemy colours synergize together is very interesting.
@pikascribbles3146
@pikascribbles3146 8 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of love from the Orzhov Syndicate; please let it be the next one!!!
@kylecarson3318
@kylecarson3318 7 жыл бұрын
I love this series. Would love to see Boros as my second favorite guild behind Golgari. Will you tackle shards/wedges after the guilds? I'd like to see Sultai and Temur in particular.
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