It was great a tournament to be wrong about! So glad that the format is open again. Ad you're on point to realize this is just the beginning of a long season with these cards. I see a return of mono-blue here, and possibly jeskai control.
@dantrick72167 жыл бұрын
Gods I wish I'd bought those Zombie deck pieces when they were cheaper! Also, was funny to see R&D hyping the deck variety around Zombies, when it came about by accident (considering the changed rotations)... Glad it did tho (and W/B), the flavour-wins and power were great to see.
@matttaylor28037 жыл бұрын
got my breakers and diregraf playsets for about $6, and my relentless playset for less than $30 in trades hehehe I really thought plague belcher was going to be a centerpiece and kept every one i opened, but i guess you cant be right all the time.
@matttaylor28037 жыл бұрын
I also bought a bunch of shambling vents and concealed courtyards.....so i took a hit there
@SunniestAutumn7 жыл бұрын
The zombies from SOI and EMN weren't rotating yet anyway. Only BFZ and OGW were.
@Vancity37 жыл бұрын
Veikko Elo all 4 of those sets rotate at the same time mate
@dantrick72167 жыл бұрын
Stu R Yeah, as can be seen here: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/revisiting-standard-rotation-2016-10-19 Diregraf & Cryptbreaker are key pieces to the mono-black with others being key to the wackier B/R variants and they'll all be going. There is, as Dev says, quite a while 'til that rotation, but the schedule emphasises this was not really a deck configuration R&D had in mind (tho HoD's zombies may show they were planning one in a different direction).
@ow124-k3z7 жыл бұрын
"Well I was wrong... A little bit wrong..." Priceless xD
@adamsaltzman62137 жыл бұрын
Cool story to everyone that got zombies before price spikes. Such is the ebb and flow of the market. There are still a ton of answers in magma spray, fatal push, unlicensed, grasp of darkness, flaying tendrils, sweltering suns, fumigate, descend upon the sinful...you get the idea. As for marvel, dispossess, transgress and lost legacy seem like solid sideboard options moving forward. Too much of a glass cannon to be considered broken. Strip the artifact and they're left trying to hard cast the stupid eldrazi. I'm happy the format opened up and am excited to see what archetypes formulate moving forward. Good job Dev.
@SBMTG7 жыл бұрын
Here's video coverage of the top 8 if anyone's interested: www.twitch.tv/videos/143405781
@Darkscythe3337 жыл бұрын
Well I guess i'm going to play standard again... awesome time to be alive!
@rsmcroberts7 жыл бұрын
well, I've never bragged on myself, but I kinda had zombies getting into top 8 a few days before the PT. I was testing something very similar, but I included one Bontu simply for the scry, and my board was almost all removal and lili.
@ribeye100007 жыл бұрын
"It was the day of the dead" nice spice ;) About as good as the "nobody ever saw Zombies coming" spice
@jlove10697 жыл бұрын
I think 4 magma spray is going to help any deck that has access to red mana against zombies. Using harnessed lightning against zombies is powerful but quite slow because it is difficult to hold up and still cast. I also wouldn't be surprised if some decks ran shock to deal with cryptbreaker.
@hawkeye75227 жыл бұрын
I feel like Mardu might play with sweltering suns or Fumigate to deal with the zombie horde. I know i'm going to put some copies of Kozilek's return in my Marvel deck to deal with them.
@bookmedia677 жыл бұрын
U/R Control with Magma Spray, Censor, and Sweltering Suns = exiled zombies, countered zombies, and board-wiped zombies. I can't wait for FNM.
@silverfangmoonhunter7 жыл бұрын
Andrew sd Void Shatter too. Gotta exile those Zombies while you counter 'em. :)
@bookmedia677 жыл бұрын
Oh, of course! However, I've been debating on how many copies of Void Shatter to run considering how strong Disallow just became in this meta. Currently I've got 3 Disallow and 1 Void Shatter, but I might make room for 3x Disallow, 2x Void Shatter.
@matttaylor28037 жыл бұрын
The multiple anthem effects and of course mimic put zombies out of range of magma spray, and even if it didn't exiling really doesnt hurt mono black like it would u/b or r/b. You'd be surprised how quickly the board recovers from a wipe as well.
@bookmedia677 жыл бұрын
+Matt Taylor I've only lost 1 match out of 4 to zombies thus far with my list. Yes, I've had to go to game 3 in most and mull to get a perfectly curved out opening hand, but with low cost removal and counters, you can keep mimic and +1 creatures off the board fairly easily. But again, you really need to be able to go magma spray, censor, disallow or void shatter, glimmer, gearhulk, sweltering suns, otherwise, you are exactly right.
@AnHourOfWolves7 жыл бұрын
You may not be playing opponents who are playing optimally... Once they know your plan, they can sit back and draw cards instead of over extending, while forcing you to spend your sweepers on one cryptbreaker and two zombie tokens.
@VeronicaFernandez91097 жыл бұрын
Niiiiiiiiice. Gonti in the winning decks sideboard
@anthonysumerel9697 жыл бұрын
gonna have to play test this mono black zombie deck lol I had one fairly similar when Eldritch Moon came out.
@MonkeyPantsFace7 жыл бұрын
Given the meta is wide open at the moment it might be time to revisit my metalwork colossus brew
@MrCquill7 жыл бұрын
Hi guys!!! Love the channel! Would you guys please make a video of how to build a good sideboard...
@Wind_Ninja_Jubei7 жыл бұрын
Didn't see marvel but MTGO results was indicating Zombies. Glad I picked up the new ones before spike
@inertia57446 жыл бұрын
11:41 I like when my budget decks run Liliana, the Last Hope
@RedBeardGL19857 жыл бұрын
my B/W zombie deck was 12 cards off from being the the one in this list and got stomped at our Saturday standard showdown. Probably just bad luck or be being semi fresh coming back to magic after a long hiatus. Oh well had fun playing still
@gregoryheck39757 жыл бұрын
relentless dead is 26$ right now as of 8 am day after pro tour weekend
@AhrenGraves7 жыл бұрын
Gregory Heck I bought my playset at $11 each oh happy days
@gregoryheck39757 жыл бұрын
Ahren Gray lol I pulled a play set when shadows first came out I'm dancing myself. I might be about to finish my commander deck now
@modernminded54667 жыл бұрын
I got my playset for less than 6$
@Whiskerbro7 жыл бұрын
Gregory Heck funnily enough, relentless dead is by far the worst and least important zombie in the deck.
@Whiskerbro7 жыл бұрын
Gregory Heck funnily enough, relentless dead is by far the worst and least important zombie in the deck.
@lazysylph33127 жыл бұрын
flaying tendrils should take care of those zombies right quick. and if that's not enough, use yahennis expertise to cast the tendrils.
@garkr7 жыл бұрын
Those zombies had families! That would just be brutal.
@turn1solring8017 жыл бұрын
Garrett Rose i tot of that too! maybe marvel decks shld splash black so in case marvel cant spin out a yahenni's expertise, can still hardcast it.
@brandenadams7017 жыл бұрын
only if lord of the accursed isn't on the field
@Mullac123456789107 жыл бұрын
Dev any plans to make a B/W or similar aristocrats deck for standard? Love the videos!
@dralock17 жыл бұрын
You should do a few rounds with the abzan tokens deck. That thing looks like a ton of fun.
@JCman7077 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that was the best intro ever.
@biggestnerdhere57197 жыл бұрын
My game shop near me runs a friday night magic draft so me and my friends have been joining in a bit. But i noticed that people where making zombie hoard decks so they could attack and block a lot. So I got the idea to take all the slither blades and crotucher of knowledges i could find. Ya got to the point where i had a 10/10 slither blade that could not be blocked. And then to annoy my opponet even more i had a few cards that just untaped my slither blade. I won fairly easy.
@jeanmarais3377 жыл бұрын
nice summary. looks like im gonna play some standard again.
@IzzetRight7 жыл бұрын
Will you be able to make a Cat Tribal deck tech?
@AgentPedestrian7 жыл бұрын
amonkhet zombies! called it!! maan i've wanted to make one since i saw some of the cards like wayward servant i KNEW it would be poweful. (i've said since before pre-release that zombie synergy would be a thing). damn. this means my broke self is even further from having a deck like that now. price spikes... ah well.
@01turtlesrule7 жыл бұрын
Yay i was waiting for this vid! Thanks Dev!
@danielalexandre897 жыл бұрын
I completly agree with you I was getting tierd od playing against mardu all the time its gonna be good to see other decks Only down side is that i just created a mono-white deck that just demolishises mardu
@bonvoyyawg7 жыл бұрын
I'm in Gruul and pretty much the only answer, other than racing the zombie deck, is Sweltering Suns, am I missing anything other than the typical removal (shock, spray, lightning)
@eirikastokes96527 жыл бұрын
Get rekt, Mardu! The happiness I feel at Mardu getting shut out of PT Top 8 is indescribable.
@kylephillips1557 жыл бұрын
Hey Dev, would it be possible for you to do an Inspiring Statuary deck based around the eldrazi and colorless spells?
@ivanconnor95647 жыл бұрын
i seen a temur ramp deck on channel fireball and I called it for the deck of the format.
@grymgungus39337 жыл бұрын
Time for Mardu control with Fumigate Sweltering Suns and Dispossess in the sideboard
@Faydrake257 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you think Amonkhet may have made Modern Minotaurs viable? Bloodrage Brawler, Metallic Mimic and Neheb seem helpful for the tribal. It almost feels like a sliveresque tribal with the addition of yet another keyword, just add Whip of Erebos and the deck can have Lifelink, First Strike, Deathtouch, Haste and Trample on curve with some real power behind it.
@endlessmtg56397 жыл бұрын
I called the zombies in a mtggoldfish stream
@manuelaguilartirado86747 жыл бұрын
I'll look for your comment >-> haha.
@aschassburger7 жыл бұрын
Dev, just made a jund gods deck ( a little different from one at the pro tour). I'm curious how you would build it. Also big fan!
@darmokandjalad77867 жыл бұрын
Hi Dez, I was wondering if you have any upgrades from Amonkeht in mind for your ultra budget mono red improvise deck. My friend is just getting back into magic and is hoping to go to game day. Thanks!
@donaldbrorson45837 жыл бұрын
wouldn't a -1/-1 counter deck be good against a creature heavy deck like zombies?
@MortimerJones997 жыл бұрын
Hey Dev, what do you think of the Temur aggro deck that showed up this weekend?
@coreyyates33857 жыл бұрын
5/14/17, Day of the Dead. love it Dev!
@terryskiff67487 жыл бұрын
Hey Dev. Can you work on a standard mill deck? Is it possible with the cards we have in standard right now?
@ethanlewis22187 жыл бұрын
yo I'd love to see you do a UR control deck as a hard counter to zombies!
@omniviking7 жыл бұрын
could take a little time and consider a R/B MADNESS FLING deck? Thanks for all the videos.
@josephcarter5007 жыл бұрын
Do you think with Amonkhet now out do you think we’d see more EDH Zombie Tribal Decks?
@jrvaughn90387 жыл бұрын
I got a R/W deck coming to answer the Zombie hoard & all others who wish to challenge it's might. All will parish to the flames!
@ivanernestomujicarios86477 жыл бұрын
zombies!! yeah! happy that I already got my cards.
@refroggy7 жыл бұрын
bonepicker is a lot like delver with death touch.
@BigChungus-fl7ss7 жыл бұрын
The opening legit made me laugh out loud.
@iangranger48567 жыл бұрын
I think Time to Reflect is something that all these zombie tribals need, you could simply chump block an Ulamog and exile it. I see no downside here. If anyone knows why that card doesn't see more play, please let me know. I can see an argument for Dark Salvation being capable of doing a similar thing but it counts on you having 5+ zombies and/or boatloads of mana to do any serious damage to the bigger creatures in the format.
@Bromdexx7 жыл бұрын
SMTGP you should do "how to build your fist deck" for this year of at least whith the realease of amonkhet, my pals and i are kind of lost,we have good ideas but our decks are very slow compared to other guys.
@fezaru337 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to see a simic naga deck ??
@matthew_thefallen7 жыл бұрын
thanks dude! useful as always!! btw, what do you think about a nahiri jeskai control deck for standard?
@AC8GE7 жыл бұрын
I personally like a Black/White Zombie deck with Anointed Procession. Midrange it makes the Zombie swarm that much more dramatic.
@AC8GE7 жыл бұрын
I am also watching New Perspective decks get tweaked with decent results.
@aegisofhonor7 жыл бұрын
in the aetherworks marvel deck, I like Shielded Aether Thief over Rogue Refiner. As a stall tactic against aggro, it works MUCH better, can draw more cards and get more energy for less mana. You're not going to win the game by slowly attacking your opponenet for 3 damage, you are going to win by spending 6 on aitherworks and shoving an ulamog down their throat for two turns. So stall them out, build up that energy, draw those cards and activate marvel for the win.
@d4bl0w7 жыл бұрын
I really liked the Sultai Marvel
@vicentepena63867 жыл бұрын
Dev, I would love to see a new version of cryptolith bestiary now that cat-lady is dead, and we got some new toys from amonkhet.
@backalleyediting19927 жыл бұрын
Hey Dev, I have a challenge for you. Bant tokens with Aven Wind Guide. That should be able to deal with zombies going wider and quicker. What do you think?
@schtendo44647 жыл бұрын
Why aren't people playing Vizier of the Menagerie in the G/B deck? You can hit insane things off the top of your library. You can get random huge dudes off the top with Greenbelt Rampager, Greenwheel Liberator, and Bone Picker.
@KBies-ld9bg7 жыл бұрын
Good analysis, a very enjoyable video.
@germtheory90537 жыл бұрын
If zombies becomes a real contender we might see more play of descend upon the sinful, although it might be too expensive
@Zacknafin7 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL OUR NEW ZOMBIE OVERLORDS!!!
@9-b_b-97 жыл бұрын
Twoo was talking ALLLLL bout zombies being nuts the last week and a half.
@jonathansadventures84877 жыл бұрын
really like your videos man i am a returning mtg player from ice age era. and getting back in to the swing of the meta. i have i question for ya. do you know any decks for standard that use call for unity?
@mathieug.68557 жыл бұрын
standard seems enjoyable again !
@d.b.scoville7 жыл бұрын
Why can't I find a video of the whole top 8 coverage
@SBMTG7 жыл бұрын
www.twitch.tv/videos/143405781
@d.b.scoville7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really like your videos.
@McStarkiller6667 жыл бұрын
Hello Declaration in Stone making a comeback
@kamakazi3397 жыл бұрын
You know what dev. I'd like to apologize. Prior to the PT I was convinced Mardu Heart of Kiran (it's not vehicles man lol) would be the only deck around. I was wrong.... wow was I wrong. You were right though. that's why you're the KZbin personality and I'm not ;)
@leoskucera36557 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Reid Duke didnt make it though he was very close to top 8. Love his Sultai Marvel build. Hit Liliana, mill Ulamog, bring him back. Just amazing.
Not according to Mr. SaffronOlive, tried to hype it up but he shot me down, too slow apparently lol
@dkres827 жыл бұрын
Love the Jafar shirt.
@gabrielwaliser80927 жыл бұрын
I am actually happy I already own 90% of the zombie deck makes it easy to run it gameday this coming saturday
@magicfortrolls98537 жыл бұрын
I bought the zombies cards before the pro tour cus I thought It was gonna be a rogue deck lol now that it has multiple pt top 8's I kinda don't wanna play zombies anymore lol
@magicfortrolls98537 жыл бұрын
One of the hour of devastation arts is a zombie too probably another zombie legendary card
@ForTheViolence7 жыл бұрын
Mardu vehicles struggles against zombies, I think they should drop black. Cards like fatal push do not help against all the zombie tokens and ulamog. One of the vehicles decks that did very well was just white red
@demetriusa.phofolos71847 жыл бұрын
All Black Everything also hate against scrapheap is becoming more relevant
@demetriusa.phofolos71847 жыл бұрын
Marry should go back to the kaladesh sort of variant which curved out at 2 basically. People thought because cat combo is gone, midrange is the only way to go, but I think a really good aggro deck could sprout out.
@keenanmccracken67587 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt Flaying tendrils wreck zombies if you can keep the buffs off the table? pick off the lords and board wipe
@samarbrander9817 жыл бұрын
Keenan McCracken a fog deck could do rather well against it
@MagictheGreatening7 жыл бұрын
People laughed at me when I said binding mummy was a really good card. Then when you're undead horde repeatedly taps down their board, you're the one laughing
@ohword6207 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I caan build that temur deck! I do not regret my investments!
@Neptune87 жыл бұрын
what does "bant" and "teamer" mean?? I'm new to magic , only been playing a month
@PotatoGuidanceMissle7 жыл бұрын
Joshuabrutl Bant is the color combination of Blue, Green and White, as well as a plane of existence in the Magic: the Gathering universe. Temur is the color combination of Blue, Green and Red, and is also a clan of warriors on the plane of Tarkir.
@jakebellak83607 жыл бұрын
B/U control?
@theclashinglegend91087 жыл бұрын
I think mardu in standard is sort of like affinity in modern. People think its gone, but before they know it its taking over standard
@demetriusa.phofolos71847 жыл бұрын
The Clashing Legend remember when people said "mardu vehicles"? Now it's just every good card in those colors
@dragnaldave26397 жыл бұрын
can you re do your discard deck need something to pick apart marvel it's dumb has took over at my LGS
@ashadeofnight7 жыл бұрын
Dev I really don't think blue/red control is gonna happen any time soon lol
@e52057 жыл бұрын
yeah gerry's "budget" deck is now 400 dollars
@epicdavenport7 жыл бұрын
Was gideon of the trials played?
@qualityvodswithchampagne36467 жыл бұрын
A google search will answer this question for you
@epicdavenport7 жыл бұрын
Googled the card price and that answered it for me.
@kishurocks7 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch the games?
@vlagtr7 жыл бұрын
Shpeal Hearthstone twitch
@magicfortrolls98537 жыл бұрын
Dusk to dawn seems to shred a tiny bit
@71chevy03307 жыл бұрын
Why didnt plague belcher fit in the deck that won pro tour akh?
@demetriusa.phofolos71847 жыл бұрын
71chevy0330 it seems very strong, I couldn't believe I didn't see it much
@manuelmenendez82397 жыл бұрын
71chevy0330 They want to go wide not kill their own creatures and the 3 drop slot has Lord of the Accursed and Diregraf Collosus.
@71chevy03307 жыл бұрын
True but put the counter on relentless dead or dread wanderer and it make a board wipe spell hard to use tto.
@failedleadership40k357 жыл бұрын
great vid as always, thanks
@daminalaskarov6827 жыл бұрын
Yall remember atog to fling?
@DragonForce13937 жыл бұрын
Good for me I'm going to sell my liliana of the last hope so I could invest in a modern deck :D
@T_Peazy7 жыл бұрын
I feel like sweltering suns or fumigate shuts down zombies.
@PotatoGuidanceMissle7 жыл бұрын
Thomas Peace Definitely in the early game, if you run it out on curve. Unfortunately, you can't really run 4 of both in the main deck or side deck. Better as a one or two of, which is the problem. You can argue 3 or 4 of Sweltering Suns because it's always a full power Radiant Flames or a redraw, but then you become more of boardwipe.dek.
@basicpigeonbee7 жыл бұрын
Creatures (4) 4 Torrential Gearhulk (if unable to get full play set use glyph keeper) keep in, i kinda need a win con Spells (29) 3 Magma Spray take out vs control 3 Censor keep in nearly always 3 Essence Scatter take out vs control 4 Harnessed Lightning take out vs control 3 Negate keep in vs control take out vs zombies 2 Pull from Tomorrow keep in 2 Disallow keep in 3 Void Shatter keep in 4 Glimmer of Genius keep in 2 Commit // Memory take out vs marvel and new perspectives. PlanesWalkers 1 Chandra Flame caller 1 Blue's clues(jace secrets dude) Lands (25) 4 Aether Hub 9 Island 5 Mountain 4 Spirebluff Canal 3 Wandering Fumarole (idk if i can get these, may be a problem, use evolving wilds and pray to god) Sideboard (15) 2 By Force mardu/articfacts 2 Dispel control 2 part the waterveil control 1 Magma Spray mardu/creature based/scrapeheap 1 Negate control 1 baral cheif of compliance control 2 Sweltering Suns creatures 1 Void Shatter control 3 Glorybringer control 75 Cards Total What you guys think?
@WTFA547 жыл бұрын
im skeptical of Chandra and Jace mainboard. Chandra coming down turn 6 might be a little too late to wrath the board, and if we're seeing a lot of go-wide aggro decks Jace might be a little low impact.
@WTFA547 жыл бұрын
baral is also super interesting in the sideboard against control. I think it's super cute because removal is probably coming out and the looting is really nice. I don't think part the waterveil is necessarily the finisher you want in the control mirror though. you're committing at least 6 Mana if not more for awaken at sorcery speed which feels dangerous to me. also the Fumaroles are super important to the deck. I'd say replace the main board walkers with like a sweltering suns and another counter or just two sweltering suns?
@WTFA547 жыл бұрын
side note: when ishkanah was big in standard I ran kozilek's return and elder Deep-Fiend so it was 2 Kozilek's Return mainboard and a split of 2 gearhulk, 2 Deep-Fiend. I'd probably do 3 gearhulks now but I see the Deep-Fiend + kozilek's return trigger doing work
@basicpigeonbee7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Lin the evolving Wilds are meant as a replacement for any lands I cannot acquire and the Chandra/jace are replacements for dynavolt tower because I cannot get two
@leebegin41687 жыл бұрын
Do you think that since zombies have lots of +1/+1 counter synergies that green for sneak could be added, or even make it an abzan type deck...zombies n sneaks and everything nice
@noahjones49437 жыл бұрын
abzan win condition deck, im not competitive, but i love this deck. NOT IN STANDARD. CREATURES 4 blood pet 4 pride guardian 4 grim haruspex INSTANTS 4 fog 4 plunge into darkness ENCHANTMENTS 4 enduring renewal 4 near-death experience ARTIFACTS 2 elixir of immortality LANDS 5 forests 10 swamps 15 plains i am open to suggestions or you can tell me i suck. i dont really care lol
@LowPho7 жыл бұрын
So I made a Zombie deck and before the protour it was about $45 well now its $85 :/
@JuniorOrtiz7387 жыл бұрын
Zachary W. why the face if you already have the cards?
@LowPho7 жыл бұрын
Junior Ortiz sadly no. I didn't clarify but I made it on a website and I was gonna order it there but now I wait for it to go down in price.
@lokone3037 жыл бұрын
this winner deck look just like Liliana story mode from magic duels..... lel thats super weird