MTG Top 10: Cards That Cost 8 Mana | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 532

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[@catfishwithwhiskers]

Me: Skipping past the intro like usual Nizzahon: In 168 BCE, Jerusalem was under the control of the Seleucids... Me: Wait go back

[@ethanboyd2981]

What are the odds. This video was uploaded 10 minutes ago, and I just got home after winning the showcase version of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon at a christmas party. Which is the exact card and artwork in the video, which was the first video suggested in my feed. Guess I was destined to with this card.

[@g1stylempdesign929]

Fated to be is always fun! Great card. Im a nerd for ancient coins and in the time it took me to write this I saw several Ancient Tetradrachm silver coins used to illustrate the origins of Hanukkah. Perfect Kismit

[@pathkeepers]

Everything going according to plan

[@age_of_origin]

You win 😂

[@nickbalmes6640]

Fated indeed. Crux of Fate huehuehue

[@rickymoen9482]

What christmas party did u go to that gave out an ugin?!

[@jsum33]

I like that presentation Rosewater made where he points out Brandy was a regret of his because he was a 7/7 that you could pay 7 life to draw 7 cards that of course had a mana value of...8.

[@uglyaniimals]

imagine how badass it would be if avacyn n him were both 7 mana 7/7s with casting costs of 7 white / 7 black mana respectivelu

[@mattblom3990]

When I first got into Magic in the early 2000s my little sister, aged 14 followed me in. She pulled an Akroma in her first pack. My disappointment was immeasurable.

[@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825]

that made me remember my first booster xD. I went to a comic book convention with a friend that had just started to play and was trying to suck me in. We arrive to a booth with mtg and I picked a soldier theme deck from onslaught and an onslaught booster. He literally handed me a 7th edition pack, told me that I should buy that pack instead while he took the onslaught booster from me for him. He got a bulk rare while I got a Wrath fo Good and a rewind. I'll die remembering the hate in his eyes xD.

[@Hinaguy749]

Cityscape Leveler might make the list next time since it's already seeing play in a few different formats that are trying to give it a try.

[@haikumagician4363]

Magma opus was also cast from the graveyard with mizzix mastery. So being able to discard for treasure was nice

[@ryanward6796]

History is awesome. Thanks for the lecture!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ClubbingSealCub]

I spent a while wondering 'what could be better than ugin' and then I remembered cruise and DTT actually cost 8 mana despite being cast for 1 and 2.

[@caseywellington4761]

Happy Hanukkah, Nizza! Thanks for the history lesson!

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

Craterhoof Behemoth is one of my least favourite cards, mostly because it feels like a complete sad trombone of a game ender. But what are you going to do? What I'm going to do, is ask for "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!

[@Hakaze]

I'd play 10 games against craterhooof, rather than one game against ugin

[@raynmanshorts9275]

Given how much treasure one can generate with some of the recently released cards, I wouldn't be surprised to see cards like Griselbrand being hard cast. A Jund ramp deck could probably do it pretty easily, but I guess it's a question of why one would do that instead of just cheating it into play.

[@royplatt455]

On Cast Payoffs?

[@raynmanshorts9275]

@@royplatt455 It doesn't have those itself, so you'd need another card that likes high mana cost spells being cast. I'd argue that the main reason to hard cast it is if you're a deck that has a lot of high mana cost spells, and Griselbrand is just one of them that maybe helps you survive or draw into your main win cons.

[@Hakaze]

Saves cards on setup. Aditional mana are allways more flexible than recural

[@OMGitshimitis]

Happy Chanukah dude!

[@TheKalaxis]

Akroma, Angel of Wrath (Aka Angel of keywords) was the very first card I paid folding money for

[@bobsmirnoff]

Love the Collab with Nizzahon History:)

[@PokeBattlerJaze]

Griselbrand? Edit: Ah, makes sense but let’s be real, I forgot about Dig and Cruise because they are also cast for two and one mana respectively XD

[@bluepomegranate]

Came for big Magic cards, stayed for the history lesson.

[@benkentucky4380]

Love all the background and explanation in this one.

[@Jazzomancer00]

I would like to add that basically all of these are VERY good in EDH as well

[@benkubisiak1459]

I think you said this in another video but tinker hasn't been used in Legacy alongside sphinx because tinker is banned in Legacy. You are right that it's used alongside tinker in vintage though.

[@chadchristian5796]

Being a history nerd I love this

[@iamfade8784]

Being a nerd I love this

[@badnewsproduction01]

As a Nistory Herd I do not love this

[@dyne313]

The history of this holiday sounds an awful lot like Robanukah.

[@AidanWR]

Watching this after lighting the candles for tonight

[@mikotagayuna8494]

The crazy thing about expensive permanents is that, at some point, mana costs are ignored and they should be evaluated according to the most used reanimation/cheat into play cards. Mana values are no longer relevant and it's just all about sheer power.

[@Hakaze]

At a point, they start to add text caring about hardcast

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

They have had cards that have extremely overpowered effects only if you cast them - the problem is, you can cheat casting things.

[@bd0negan]

8 is about the threshold for hard casting. Can't recall ever hard casting anything more expensive than that in a competitive format

[@nathanielmarks1754]

Love your videos, they are very informative!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Glad you like them!

[@Tr3yWill]

I was so engrossed, for a moment I forgot I was watching a top 10 until I was brought back by the "How I score cards." Oh right, this is a mtg video.

[@ringoderbar1522]

omg some other topic than MtG, for a whole minute. Why does Nizza het away with it?

[@Adam-yt8uz]

You make such great videos, love this channel

[@ElPanadero18]

I loved the mini Nizzahon history episode! Sad that channel never took off.

[@ApexZer0]

Thanks for the little history of hanukkah

[@Teddywg102]

Dig through time also sees lots of play in Yuriko cedh as a burn for 8 to each opponent and a way to get cheap yet strong card advantage plus it’s cheap cost means it’s in almost all Yuriko cedh and casual decks especially budget decks

[@WhimzyInteractive]

Appreciate the hannukah story!

[@ptbunz2501]

Hey, I enjoyed the little lesson. Thanks Bro.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Glad to hear it!

[@tobynburke4959]

When was tinker legal in legacy? It's been at least 20 years

[@remcovansteincallenfels7132]

If my information is correct, Tinker got banned in Legacy in 1999, and has never been unbanned. Sphinx of the Steel Wind first got printed in 2009. So Tinker cannot have cheated Sphinx into play in Legacy.

[@crawdaddy2004]

SUUUUUUUUPER BANNED

[@PhoenixLaw92]

I'd love to see a top 10 list of your favorite top 10's.

[@august3149]

Hey Nizzahon, I’m huge fan. I’ve been watching your top tens since like episode 50. I got a question: what do u think of TheManaLogs?

[@Liliana_the_ghost_cat]

Thank you very much for the history lesson and happy Hanukkah! :3

[@crawdaddy2004]

Correction: Tinker is super banned in Legacy.

[@thekuso_1070]

Is the lifelink and pro green of sphinx that much better than the pro black, trample, and haste of Akroma? It seems like a huge disparity.

[@Greg_Ulmer]

You can tinker it out.

[@dylansylvester4719]

@@Greg_Ulmer only in vintage

[@Greg_Ulmer]

@@dylansylvester4719 yeah, that's why it's mostly played in vintage.

[@diegobastias6447]

Hey Nizzahon! Is it possible to make a list with the Top 10 Cards that gained the most points this year? (2022)

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

That is an awesome idea 🤟

[@dyne313]

I think Nizzahon totally forgot to mention that Magma Opus can cycle itself for a treasure token. I don't know how many points the card would have without that part of the card, so it is worth mentioning.

[@RibusPQR]

How about the top ten cheat cards, like sneak attack, show and tell, etc

[@scottdahneke1031]

Happy Hanukkah sir!

[@YTzinkk]

I appreciate the run down of Hanukkah. It's nice to see some respect on the internet.

[@jfmedits1577]

happy hanahuka!

[@hepic2874]

There is another really good one which is an 8 colourless mana 8/8 artifact creature which has ward 4, vigilance and when it dies you get 8 colourless mana until end of turn

[@superbaas8822]

The card isn't even very good on draft, let alone best cards of all time.

[@lachlank.8270]

Top 10 Oil related cards for another Hannukah theme list 😅

[@antonmiller3981]

Hope Hellkite Overlord is on here. Flying, haste, fire breathing and regeneration.

[@DanoLefourbe]

Thanks for the history lesson, it was very enlightening!

[@XotilE]

Love ur videos :D

[@stygiansouls5782]

Im the only one of my friends who has a Craterhoof, its lots of fun lol.

[@calicogaming6063]

I feel like if edh was included for this one Craterhoof would be almost if not #1

[@rajamicitrenti1374]

Sphinx of the Steel Wind's performance is odd. Like, cheating big creatures into play isn't new as a strong deck concept in Legacy and Vintage, and yet the sphinx did basically nothing there (or anywhere) for close to 10 years, then shot to popularity. And I have no idea what changed to make people start wanting to use it.

[@ukaszmozejko9984]

This video is grear, m8!!!

[@joshcrosley9737]

You get my like and comment for the history lesson.

[@iamrepairmanman]

Now, to be 100% on it, only 7 of the days are miraculous, so the 8th candle's miracle is usually attributed to something else. The fact that they found oil at all, the fact that the oil didn't diminish in the jug, or even winning the war. Just figured I'd point that out.

[@trueHeBrew]

Happy Hanukkah 8 cmc cards!

[@johngleeman8347]

Happy Hanukkah!

[@stevenrhodes8338]

Before the video: I think you spoiled #1 with your thumbnail. After the video: it has been 4 years I forgot those cards were still legal in some formats

[@filipzo]

Ugin and Craterhoof are those kinds of cards that make you ponder "why am I playing this?". As an arena player, as soon as I see an elf or a colorless land I already know where the match is going. This is a problem, at least for me, cause I don't have any fun playing against decks that can't give me any surprise at all. I am not here to judge anyone, those cards are super strong and I clearly get why people consistently play them. I will keep gg->concede to the next game. :-) Have a nice day everyone and thank you Nizza for the history lesson, I Love it!

[@mightyone3737]

Arena more or less forces you to play against competitive decks if you're competent, even if all you were playing was a jank deck and just played it well, Arena will throw your pile of jank against a tier 1 deck that's still in Silver because the player just started out, at which point you exist to give other people points because you won't spend money. My issue wasn't just a lack of surprise, it was that Arena offered you only one way to play the game, competitively, and that is not only really expensive (guess why they push competitive Arena play), it also stifles creativity. It's like how they keep printing stronger and stronger Commanders to displace the previous decks people have, WotC has always been aware that rotating competitive play is what they want players to prioritize, and if they refuse to play the game as WotC wants, they just make all the non-rotating formats turn into rotating formats, so they can print dumb shit like Ragavan (as if DRC wasn't already a stupid enough 1 drop for Red, they also get a Mythic 1 drop, a thing that's so inherently salty it probably was dredged out of one of those hot springs in Ethiopia with the saltiest water in the world, 1 drops should literally never be Mythic) to drain people's wallets.

[@filipzo]

@@mightyone3737 you are probably right. My point is that I play just to disconnect my brain for a while. I play ranked just because, at least, players don't concede if they don't get the perfect hand at first. There I mostly face the same decks (historic) over and over again: white aggro (all the variants= same), elfs craterhoof, goblin muxus, ruin crab mill, colorless karn ugin, Yorion control stuff, red aggro. Occasionally you see enchantments, reanimator, ultimatum... 96% of the matches are like these. Now, regarding this video, I feel a bit frustrated by this redundancy, but it's still ok, still cool: I only feel like I literally wasted my time when oppo plays Craterhoof/Ugin/Muxus/Ultimatum... I can't do much about this: to play one card and "hey I win" it's not my kind of game.😅

[@filipzo]

Just did my first two matches today. First match: Soulwarden +1/+1. Second match: t1 Skirk prospector (immediate concede). What a fun era to play.

[@joshtalbot8224]

I’m surprised Avacyn didn’t make the list?

[@NizzahonMagic]

8 mana Avacyn has an impressive 0 points.

[@magicalgirlanime]

Ok so I know Ugin is probably at the top. But I'm still holding out hope for my boi Vorinclex

[@superbaas8822]

Ugin is not infact the top spot. It's a duel spot, for the cards that would be #1 and #2, but were condensed to save space to talk about other cards.

[@magicalgirlanime]

@@superbaas8822 Ugin top spot that actually costs 8 though tbh

[@superbaas8822]

@@magicalgirlanime Negative ghostrider. If I chalice you for 1, and you Delve a cruise down 7, it doesn't get countered. Even if you did pay the cost another way, Cruise and time still cost 8.

[@ShakerGER]

So hannukah is the festival of Khorne ey?

[@yuvalziv1599]

Nice

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

I run ugin in my horror of llanowar commander deck as a last resort when destroying isn't enough

[@alexmoskowitz811]

“Top ten cards whose relevance lasted much longer than it had any right to” would also be Chanukah appropriate

[@Ravaen]

Funny thinking that Sphinx of the Steel Wind gets cheated in on turn 3 in vintage, if the player has tinker its t1 or maybe t2 in most decks.

[@kennethacuna9996]

Archon of Cruelty is the best Titan!

[@jackdaniell4594]

Getting the most out of that history doctorate LUL

[@intelligentcounterspell16]

[@shadowofseattle1338]

Wait it's *not* CMC anymore?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Nope! "Mana Value" now

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Pretty amusing that wotc is just bidding their time before having to ban the delve cards in pioneer.

[@SpitefulAZ]

Tinker is banned in legacy.

[@chadchristian5796]

Hi

[@assault410]

I thought it was because seven ate nine

[@JustRightPinedo]

I love the Jewish history add on!! As an M Div I would totally watch more content in this fashion

[@Zeralop]

Why would you watch more fake j3w history? It's all fantasy ,😂

[@DRAKLOR_44]

Very interesting list thank you, funnily enough I was playing commander earlier with friends using Tawnos the Toymaker I got a craterhoof behemoth out, copied it and because of my 21 other creatures I did 46 dmg x 23 which was 1058 dmg in one hit needless to say I won 🤣

[@Bonzel12]

I think ugin players are just no humans

[@jdogx211]

Why isn't #8, Sphinx of Steel Wind a Legendary? 3 colors and all those keywords? We're they afraid of making it TOO easy to play by putting it in the Command Zone?

[@phelandiller4066]

The card pre dates commander for the most part... also legendaries used to be pretty rare and only characters with significant lore.

[@jdogx211]

@@phelandiller4066 k. Do you know why he doesn't count EDH/Commander is his calculations?

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

@@jdogx211 because he's counting the success of the cards in competitive tournaments, which despite WotC are still a thing. Commander is WotC main source of revenue but there are no sanctioned events for the format.

[@irou95]

@@ROMANTIKILLER2 Main source of revenue is kitchen table

[@phelandiller4066]

@@jdogx211 He actually does count EDH in some of his videos. Especially his lists of worst cards he shows how little the cards are used even in commander.

[@taylorolson6228]

Why are so few people watching these nowadays?

[@NizzahonMagic]

I mean, 20k or so has been the average for a long time, and this is well on its way there.

[@ZakumPlayer]

Came for some magic, got some sweet jewish knowledge

[@mytubeguy1234]

first

[@Sulmor85]

Ugin is an autoconcede card. In my opinion is a design mistake

[@elminster8470]

Wtf I came for mtg and got a honica lesson,booo

[@christopherb501]

Jewish people and people versed in Jewish history and folklore - what outside of the Golem do you want to see in this game?

[@nicholasperez5716]

great video is there one with less religious talk?

[@Ixidora]

It's like one minute of acknowledgement due to the time of year. Do you want people to be disrespectful of your religion if it gets even mentioned? Consider how you'd take something if it was said to you before you be disrespectful.

[@kjmergen]

Disappointed that you said "BCE"; joyful that you gave us a history lecture as well as another cool top10.

[@NizzahonMagic]

What is there to be disappointed about? That's the dating we academics use.

[@IvarTheBonerless]

Honica? Never heard of that. Is it an American thing like Thanksgiving?

[@Greg_Ulmer]

It's a Jewish holiday. Nizzahon is jewish.