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MTG Top 10: Worst Lands | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 76

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@ghuruzilla
@ghuruzilla 6 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest here, Sorrow’s Path can be insane if you’re playing GB token sacrifice. Let us play out a scenario, you control a Dictate of Ereobos and 5 tapped 1/1 Saproling tokens with Slimefoot as your commander and a Mycoloth on the battlefield with 5 1/1 counters. Your opponent is using a mono red goblin deck with Krenko in the command post. His field is a Goblin Warleader and 6 1/1 goblins with benefits from the leader. Your opponent swings in with a 2/2 Goblin and the Warleader. You tap Sorrow’s Path and block 2 2/2 Goblins and kill your Saprolings and triggering Dictate’s effect. Killing your opponent’s field. Then you scoop cause you’re playing Sorrow’s Path.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
I approve of this. Great idea.
@BeanieBoi2003
@BeanieBoi2003 2 жыл бұрын
Wow never thought of that
@mastermaster394
@mastermaster394 6 жыл бұрын
Found my new land staples
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+_ Mosttoast Yup!
@snakeorbreak6258
@snakeorbreak6258 4 жыл бұрын
No! This isn't how you're supposed to play the game.
@alexisleftist778
@alexisleftist778 4 жыл бұрын
@@snakeorbreak6258 almost every land in this video is in the bad card trible deck and its funny
@floor_tank_shanks4194
@floor_tank_shanks4194 4 жыл бұрын
Strictly worse?
@sabbatweedfroggaminghd3765
@sabbatweedfroggaminghd3765 6 жыл бұрын
#1: Homelands
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+monkeymeister37 Touche
@Akihito007
@Akihito007 5 жыл бұрын
Shame cause had good art and when I played Magic in high school.
@meryatathagres1998
@meryatathagres1998 5 жыл бұрын
Memory Lapse and Merchant Scroll say hi.
@zakdavid7476
@zakdavid7476 6 жыл бұрын
archealogical dig actually saw a lot of tournament play in extended. and was played in some grand prix’s. it was played in “sunny side up” which is a combo deck based around “second sunrise” from mirrodin.
@unknownkw
@unknownkw 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention it combos well with crucible of worlds and fastbond.
@countOfHenneberg
@countOfHenneberg 6 жыл бұрын
Worst cards lists get a lot of attention - just ask Wedge...
@valentinoreid9253
@valentinoreid9253 6 жыл бұрын
countOfHenneberg probably because these kind of videos are really good at breaking down Magic's mechanics
@TheTundraTerror
@TheTundraTerror 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, list videos are just easy clicks.
@trunkage
@trunkage 5 жыл бұрын
When I was 13, I pulled a An-Havva Township out of a booster. I thought it was the best thing ever. It can do THREE colours. Once I played it, I quickly realised that I was wrong
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 3 жыл бұрын
nowadays we have things like ikoria's triome, those are actually great
@Gingerbreadley
@Gingerbreadley 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrows path can be donated to opponents and you can force them to tap it. It will then deal 2 to them and all their creatures as the ability isn’t tied to the actual tap affect. This is a horrible game plan but hey zedruu can sometimes use it for lols
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. That land is only good if you can donate it to someone else and repeatedly tap it.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+BrotherAlpha If a card is good to donate, that means it is horrible.
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I would be shocked if any non-Zedruu deck runs Sorrow's Path.
@ghostofkrows
@ghostofkrows 6 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking sorrows path plus the enrage mechanic , bit still not worth it.
@ghostofkrows
@ghostofkrows 6 жыл бұрын
Grizzlyman MeinTeil Actually I think the best you could do is setup an awkward infinte dmg combo via an Indestructable Coalhauler Swine sporting a pariah. Then again you would be living so far in magical christmas land that The King of Narina would send out a search party.
@thecusk6918
@thecusk6918 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that "land creature type" was a thing in Arabian Nights
@alexisfiligree9116
@alexisfiligree9116 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah...didn't you know that Dryad Arbor was printed as a limited edition that could only be found in the first 500 boxes of Arabian Nights? It was because of this limited print (which gave it a near mythical status) that it never made it onto the reserved list so it could be reprinted in Future Sight.
@thecusk6918
@thecusk6918 6 жыл бұрын
Alexis Filigree I see. I'm guessing it was shadowbanned, so it never saw play in constructed. That also shows that mythic rarity was an early concept that was brought back.
@Sheriff_K
@Sheriff_K 6 жыл бұрын
What, is that true? What'd the original Dryad Arbor look like? I can't imagine a world where Dryad Arbor didn't get beautiful FTV art that made me fall in love with Magic.. Would I even be playing Magic, if Dryad Arbor had been on the RL? o_0
@Hyuuga2109
@Hyuuga2109 6 жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party, but those guys are all being sarcastic.
@Sauvenil
@Sauvenil 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexisfiligree9116 by the rules of the Time Spiral block, it would have been in Time Spiral instead of Future Sight! (Future Sight cards haven't been printed yet.)
@Norade
@Norade 6 жыл бұрын
Use Sorrow's Path to trigger enrage for your dinosaur EDH deck?
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Norade lawl
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 6 жыл бұрын
that's actually quite clever damn. Get your card draws, damage and tokens out for a land tap, with an limited upside of exchanging attacking creatures... wow.
@ComradeArthur
@ComradeArthur 6 жыл бұрын
Dude!
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 6 жыл бұрын
Norade Uh clever idea
@Norade
@Norade 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it might actually be semiplayable in that one deck. Especially if rage is a keyword in battle
@alanyuan8565
@alanyuan8565 6 жыл бұрын
We should rename these "worst" series as cards to put into my Zedruu deck.
@raulperez2308
@raulperez2308 6 жыл бұрын
Alan Yuan ah, i see you're a man of culture as well
@CaptainKronkers
@CaptainKronkers 5 жыл бұрын
I just made this commander today! Vedalken Plotter is about to have a field day with some of these
@halfjack2758
@halfjack2758 5 жыл бұрын
Just run transcendence: give it to an opponent for an instant kill. Nothing could go wrong...
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 4 жыл бұрын
Group hug, politics, and gitrog monster Staples 😝
@Ratstail91
@Ratstail91 6 жыл бұрын
At least the art is nice on most of these.
@ZappasMudshark
@ZappasMudshark 3 жыл бұрын
MOST
@jeremyphillips3087
@jeremyphillips3087 3 жыл бұрын
You're nice
@Stickweasel91
@Stickweasel91 6 жыл бұрын
Oasis is strong in one deck that I know of: Horobi, Death's Wail turns Oasis into a 'tap to destroy a creature' land
@pooolish334
@pooolish334 4 жыл бұрын
The most devastating thing here is that the beautiful art work in all of these lands were wasted in horrible effects
@grayscaleplaid7424
@grayscaleplaid7424 6 жыл бұрын
The 47 decks that run Sorrow's Path are all Darien, King of Keldjor.
@user-zq7qs8hs5f
@user-zq7qs8hs5f 6 жыл бұрын
And Zedruu.
@TheGabrielbowater
@TheGabrielbowater 5 жыл бұрын
Another fun thing about non-mana producing lands like Oasis - In the old days you couldn't mulligan at will, you had to show your hand had zero lands, or all lands. This means if Oasis was the only land in your hand you could end up stuck with zero mana sources.
@mason103
@mason103 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for your concise explanation of Banding, I have watched numerous videos attempting to explain the mechanic but the way you put it made a lot of sense
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Mason I spent a long time finding the right way to describe it in a way that both made sense and was brief, so I am glad you feel I succeeded.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
if you go onto gamepedia they have a good list of the rules
@username4835
@username4835 2 жыл бұрын
I run Henge of Ramos in my Ramos, Dragon Engine deck. I also run the bones of Ramos (3 cost mana rocks that tap for one color and can save for one of the same color). Sometimes flavor over function.
@tefnutstemple7433
@tefnutstemple7433 5 жыл бұрын
the no-mana lands could come in decently handy in a deck that uses Urborg. Still, relying on one specific other card in a 99 card deck isnt a good idea
@WhiteIceHawk
@WhiteIceHawk 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video but you should show the other cards you are talking about
@louisclarkson7992
@louisclarkson7992 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say this!
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 6 жыл бұрын
In fact, some of these colorless mana producing lands can be used in eldrazi edh decks with no downsides at all.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+OOM- 32 Except that there are enough other colorless mana producing lands that do something more relevant than make shadow creatures not attack you. I mentioned Karn, who is also a colorless general.
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 6 жыл бұрын
Before Wastes were printed I was indeed shoving things like Sheltered Valley into my colorless EDH decks just to make a decent land count. Actually I probably still would since with rare exceptions it's still no worse than a Wastes.
@rageleague188
@rageleague188 6 жыл бұрын
Actually if someone cast, i don't know, a path to exile or something, then you probably want wastes.
@maxhyuga6280
@maxhyuga6280 5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you can’t use them in elzrazi decks because it has to have the waste symbol which is why they changed sol ring from a 2, to 2 waste symbols, so you might as well put another waste
@shinseikatsu2014
@shinseikatsu2014 6 жыл бұрын
Some of these lands I play with house rules errata because the art is so awesome. For example, the Homelands lands all cost 1 mana to filter, the Legends lands all add mana, and Oasis taps for a colorless.
@GameAlicornLuna
@GameAlicornLuna 6 жыл бұрын
Before I watch the video. "Number one is going to be Sorrow's Path, isn't it?"
@davedussault7251
@davedussault7251 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts 6 жыл бұрын
The banding lands rock! I played the whole cycle in my legendary creature deck. It was so annoying that I had to tear the deck apart.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, finally another player who actually understands how good the Banding mechanic is. Sounds like a sweet deck.
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-qk5ed The only problem with banding is that they never put it on the right creatures. Banding only works if the creature is at least 1/2, but they only gave it to 1/1s (or made it cost a fortune). If you ever played Mesa Pegasus and Cr*s*de, you saw how 2 toughness unlocks banding without breaking the game. If they gave Squire banding, it would have been fun but not OP.
@odoacredacalcutta5085
@odoacredacalcutta5085 4 жыл бұрын
I love cards that are so bad that they make you think about comboes where you manage to give it to an opponent. for example sorrow's path would be good with tangle wire
@Demagogue88
@Demagogue88 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think Archaeological Deck saw some play thanks to effects like Second Sunrise, where having the land act as a Lotus Petal helped. This may have been during really old school Extended formats with Storm.
@aevenova9780
@aevenova9780 Жыл бұрын
Cathedral of Serra is a very old, non mana producing land. But i think it has really incredible art. Especially the italian version, is way more vibrant 😊
@jonasagdanowski7593
@jonasagdanowski7593 6 жыл бұрын
I going to fill a binder with sarrors paths
@Oneiroclast
@Oneiroclast 5 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's Path's effect is pretty interesting mechanically, they should print it on a card that's actually playable.
@tobiaspause1775
@tobiaspause1775 6 жыл бұрын
Well sheltered valley isnt bad in one mana decks. Its a free few extra life while you still get the Mana you need. Not much sure, but considering you dont sacrefice anything to do so makes it kind of playable. Its even better with artefacts.
@nartin9
@nartin9 5 жыл бұрын
Lands are my favorite card type in mtg. I always collect at least a play set of every new uncommon and common lands no matter the power level
@hiimemily
@hiimemily 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on each of these picks: (SPOILERS BELOW) *10: Archaeological Dig (Invasion)* Worse than Tendo Ice Bridge, which is worse than Aether Hub. It turns on Reflecting Pool for WUBRG, which is more than most lands can say, and at least unlike some of the lands on this list, at least you can get C out of it at all times... but it's still just so underwhelming. *9: Oasis (Arabian Nights)* What an underwhelming effect on a land with no mana ability. It was probably meant as a counter to Desert... which could tap for C. Yep, Wizards' balancing was almost nonexistent in 1993, and this card is just one of countless examples. *8: Rhystic Cave (Prophecy)* A land that can only be tapped at instant speed is pretty odd. A land that might not even get you mana when you tap it is abysmal. Sure, like Archaeological Dig it turns on Reflecting Pool, but it's still bad - much like most Rhystic cards. (Not Study though, that card's still awesome.) *7: Maze of Shadows (Tempest)* "T: Add C to your mana pool." That's really all I see here. Sure, you might be able to hose the odd Looter il-Kor, but what are the odds of that? Even though Maze of Ith doesn't tap for mana, it's still clearly the better card by virtue of its actually-quite-useful ability. *6: Sheltered Valley (Alliances)* I've seen an Oloro deck draw three cards with this after an Armageddon. Other than that, meh. At most you're gaining 3 life with this, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's not particularly useful. Radiant Fountain usually plays the "lifegain on a colorless land" role better anyway, and not many people play that either. *5: Adventurer's Guildhouse cycle (Legends)* lol bands with legends. It took a rule change many years later to make this cycle even remotely worth considering, and even then only in a Captain Sisay deck. The Karakas cycle taps for colored mana; why couldn't this one even tap for C? *4: Henge of Ramos (Mercadian Masques) and School of the Unseen (Alliances)* I feel bad about playing Unknown Shores in Limited, and yet it looks incredible compared to these two. They could be worse though... just look at #2! *3: Wintermoon Mesa (Prophecy)* Any land that enters tapped better be damn good to make up for it, and this land... wouldn't be all that great even if it entered untapped. I played this once in my Kozilek deck. Once. Never again. *2: An-Havva Township cycle (Homelands)* Easily the worst no-drawback lands in existence. Sure, they can all get you three colors, but at such a steep cost, it never feels worth it. Well, at least they tap for C without having to pay anything else. So do Wastes though, and since Kodama's Reach can pull them from my deck, I'd honestly rather play them than anything from this cycle. *1: SORROW'S PATH (The Dark)* I think this card speaks for itself. What a trash heap.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
@TheShinyFeraligatr 5 жыл бұрын
Being a basic land means that shit like Wasteland can’t get it and you can fetch it with any basic searcher, and both of those things are massive utility.
@patrickblackwell777
@patrickblackwell777 2 жыл бұрын
God, maybe I'm just old and nostalgic, but I love the artwork and borders of sets long ago. I wonder how the younger players feel about it having not grown up with those sets.
@ldl1477
@ldl1477 2 жыл бұрын
Yep; love the old art
@igniteaxiom
@igniteaxiom 6 жыл бұрын
don't read the errata on sorrow's path unless you want your head to explode.
@withermiller1617
@withermiller1617 6 жыл бұрын
Harmless offering and Sorrows Path
@bradwashington420
@bradwashington420 6 жыл бұрын
Wither Miller lol, harmless offering ftw
@crimsontrench9230
@crimsontrench9230 5 жыл бұрын
Experimental Frenzy and Harmless offering. Especially if they have no red. Lol
@willwoll3138
@willwoll3138 2 жыл бұрын
I built an EDH deck around Sorrow's Path (for the challenge) and it works pretty good. [FYI: I do not have many of the newer cards, but I make do with what I have]. My Commander is Jacques Il Vert (So all my green creatures will survive the path anyway). I also make use of En-Kors to redirect damage. Tamanoa gives me life for every non-creature damage I deal, so it counters the 2 dealt to me from the Path AND gives me 2 life for every creature I control when I tap the Path. Fungusaur and Wall of Resistance were also obvious choices. Of course I also carry Aether Flash (since my creatures are designed to survive the 2 point hit anyway). It was a fun challenge to build a deck around this horrible card, we were just amazed at how effective it is. Also, in a multi-player format, the power level of the deck skyrockets because I can use the path to cause chaos (and maybe gain lots of life) by switching blocking creatures when the attack is between two others.
@I_am_Jordan_K
@I_am_Jordan_K 2 жыл бұрын
I love the flavor of non-mana-producing lands like Oasis and Adventurer's Guildhouse, but yeah...they're not great to play.
@bradensorensen966
@bradensorensen966 2 жыл бұрын
A deck with Stuffy Dolls and Brash Taunters could use the number one land pretty well. Each one would take and deal 2 damage to your opponent, then you could get a big creature through else you switch the blockers to have the damage done to Stuffy or Brash instead. Finish off by having brash taunted fight the biggest threat on board.
@MiningInBlack
@MiningInBlack 6 жыл бұрын
52.4 decks???
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+MiningInBlack Yup, I did an average for that one because it is part of a cycle
@MiningInBlack
@MiningInBlack 6 жыл бұрын
Nizzahon Magic ahhhh makes sense
@AraWnichou
@AraWnichou 3 жыл бұрын
I used to play the Dig in constructed back in the days, in a Balancing Act deck. :D
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 6 жыл бұрын
About archeological did, there is a whole cycle of lands that can be sacrificed for one mana of any colour in Odyssey, like Bog Wreckage. Well, the make coloured mana instead of colourless, but they come into play tapped, meaning you have to wait one turn until you can sacrifice them for a weak effect.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Schwarzer Ritter Yup, making colored mana instead is a big deal though, those are played a lot more
@floor_tank_shanks4194
@floor_tank_shanks4194 5 жыл бұрын
Terrible cards, but i absolutely LOVE the artwork in these cards so much!
@meryatathagres1998
@meryatathagres1998 5 жыл бұрын
In defence you only need one creature with banding in group of blockers. In attack you can include one creature without banding into a group of attackers with banding, the group counts as one attacker. Since I was a judge way back then, the mechanic doesn't seem so troublesome to me. If you read the tiny rulebook that came with starter packs back then, there wasn't many cases where banding was problematic. But yeah there's a long list of rulings for specific situations.
@romanovangenderen4615
@romanovangenderen4615 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't Sorrow's Path a repeatable Enrage trigger for all your creatures at once??
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Romano van Genderen Sure. If your opponent us blocking you with at least two creatures and none of your board dies to it and you don't mind it producing mana. And you have enough creatures with a keyword ability that is only a handful at this point. Then it is awesome.
@danielgraham1879
@danielgraham1879 6 жыл бұрын
even if enrage turns out to be as parasitic as Shadow, I am fucking thankful there are more decades between the two sets than most players have been alive.
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 6 жыл бұрын
Romano van Genderen omg edh really does find a place for every. Single. Card.
@bryantan4228
@bryantan4228 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's Path is great in Gishath. If anyone tries to block with more than 1 creature, you can tap the Path and trigger Enrage
@jakegwolford
@jakegwolford 5 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I'm a recent subscriber, and I appreciate you mentioning the application of odd cards in EDH and other generally wonky strategies. Keep up the great work!
@MyDj56
@MyDj56 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that Sorrow's Path could be used to mass kill off tokens for some kind of trigger on death effects. It could actually lead to some serious combos with the right enchantments on board
@timex198
@timex198 6 жыл бұрын
I actually used Archaeological Dig in Gitrog Monster. Play an untapped land, sac to add any color and draw a card. Sure it's not the best, but it's still a little bit of value in a land slot.
@beno3686
@beno3686 6 жыл бұрын
Archaeological Dig is actually good in Legacy Eggs combo
@endersblade
@endersblade 4 жыл бұрын
I could see Sorrow's Path being used effectively in a Dinosaur deck with Enrage effects. I mean, I STILL don't think I'd use it, but I could see it. Oh, I See someone beat me to the punch here. Ah well.
@LtVadim
@LtVadim 6 жыл бұрын
Your "Worst" videos are the best!
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 5 жыл бұрын
I can see sorrows path working really well in a dino commander deck since well dinos have all those enrage triggers you can do silly things with
@SuperNorstShow
@SuperNorstShow 6 жыл бұрын
I run 4 sorrows path in my legacy deck which focuses on donating it or an illusions of grandeur to an opponent. I tap their sorrows path with a trickster mage or an instant which lets me tap. Early Frost is a favorite of mine there. I own about 60 sorrows path in total.
@ets68
@ets68 6 жыл бұрын
try donating a midnight oil
@TheEzzran
@TheEzzran 5 жыл бұрын
You know, I think I could make Sorrow's Path work quite nicely in my Teysa Karlov EDH deck. If someone with deathtouch is attacking the green player and he doesn't block the deathtouch with his big guy I could swap things around to remove two threats at once, AND it would kill a lot of my tokens, triggering a lot of death effects. I might need to get one of these.
@Inforza
@Inforza 5 жыл бұрын
what i like about this list that you also see that WOTC is the learning curve in card design.. The oldest land is from invasion... This video also reminded me how awesome the game was back game.. no internet where everyone is netdecking.. That legends cards Adventurous´Guildhouse i remember some1 playing who was collecting only cards from the legends set. He played in multiplayer often a pure legends deck just for the fun and he played that land.. I remember also a boobies deck from him, where he played cards with only female who had a big rack.. And yes, i think the game was alot more fun back in those days, where lots of my old magic club quited playing when a few teenagers joined the club and at every tournament they used netdecked decks and won the tournament. Even in a 2headed giant tournament they came with netdecked decks.. The older guys (30+ yrs old) lost the interest in magic because those kids didn´t came up with these decks theirself. Yes, the older guys could have joined the darkside and netdecked theirself. But for them the deck design and then win a tournament is part of the game and what made magic interesting and fun for them. Eventhou i agreed with them on that topic, i never stopped playing magic.
@joeg6419
@joeg6419 6 жыл бұрын
archeological dig also lets you produce and any color in mono brown
@elliotted6690
@elliotted6690 6 жыл бұрын
I play archeological dig in legacy eggs. second sunrise and faiths reward return it to the battlefield each time I go through the cycle, allowing me to tap and sacrifice it multiple times in any given turn.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Elijah D Yeah several people have left thus comment, which indicates it should not have made the list -- I chose to go with EDH-related evidence because my past "worst" top 10s bothered EDH people, but I shouldn't have abandoned my old method of looking to see if a card ever saw competitive play - I should just consider both!
@firedude380
@firedude380 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Sorrow's path could be good if you run swarm with death triggers. I have a Kresh deck with saproling generation and it could make a decent combat trick in there.
@blitheringape5321
@blitheringape5321 6 жыл бұрын
man I used to play EDH and I"d try playing decks to win and people would tell me I was playing it wrong then they get upset when I say a card is bad in EDH because their BS justification is "you're just not playing casually enough" like yeah no shit I guess I'm not playing vintage casually enough either because I want to play a baleful strix instead of playing a wood elemental or whatever
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 5 жыл бұрын
Gitrog Monster: Hi Archaeological Dig. This is my friend Crucible of Worlds.
@tomeisenbei2506
@tomeisenbei2506 6 жыл бұрын
There are actually crazy combo decks with Sorrows Path: You either give your opponent control of the land and force them to tap it, or you play creatures like Mogg Maniac, Boros Reckoner or Swans of Bryn Argoll that profit from getting damage.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Tom Eisenbeiß "Crazy Combo" seems a bit hyperbolic. Not the biggest payoffs for having so much set up.
@tomeisenbei2506
@tomeisenbei2506 6 жыл бұрын
I meant "crazy" in terms of "unconventional", not in terms of "powerfull"
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Tom Eisenbeiß Ah, gotcha.
@TheOtherOne122
@TheOtherOne122 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Eisenbeiß basically force them to use the shitty card
@Auron3991
@Auron3991 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's Path seems interesting with enrage triggers or cards like Kami of the Honored Dead, so it's not completely worthless.
@bradensorensen966
@bradensorensen966 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the worst lands are the ones that don't tap for any type of Mana, and can't provide any Mana benefit in any way.
@wyvernsimpermanence
@wyvernsimpermanence 5 жыл бұрын
the last card can be used in that dinasaur deck - enrage synergy, they pretty much all have more then 2 hp
@bluedestiny2710
@bluedestiny2710 3 жыл бұрын
on casual, i made an annoying deck where my win con was actually Sorrow's Path XD I used donate + then Ring of Gix to tap down the Path every turn. The deck is full Rune of Protections (chose them over Circle of Protections for cycling) + Sleight of Mind + Worship + other cards that will make your opponent want to smack you in the head with a folding chair XD. I think i also ran some counter magic like Arcane Denial and Forbid and some creatures with inherent protection from a color that i sometimes use the Sleight on while Worship is in play ... its no surprise i didnt make a lot of friends when i was running that deck xD
@wuschelbeutel
@wuschelbeutel 4 жыл бұрын
If sorrows path could tap for a colorless as a second activation, and didn't have the two damage thing going on, I doubt it would even see play in the Eternal formats
@GalaticCyrus
@GalaticCyrus 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's path is actually pretty dope in a En-kor + stuffy doll/boros reckoner deck.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+GalaticCyrus Your opponent will just never block with two creatures, though. They know it is coming.
@GalaticCyrus
@GalaticCyrus 6 жыл бұрын
just use Odric, master tactician then Kappa. but yeah, situational at best. it's the one with nothing deal, we always try our best to use the worst cards.
@ericsmith3808
@ericsmith3808 5 жыл бұрын
I run a Karn mud deck that uses some of the lands you listed purely for their cheap price and compatibility. Deck as a whole is a monster though.
@jordanburton9819
@jordanburton9819 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen an Azusa Commander deck with like 60 Forests This Card and big Green Legendaries they also had the Guildhouse
@Finngrinder
@Finngrinder 5 жыл бұрын
So Zedruu/Donate Sorrow's Path and then use cards like Rishadan Port or Scepter/Twiddle to Clasm them to oblivion?
@sazhuy
@sazhuy 5 жыл бұрын
I think treating them as lands might be the problem for some of these cards. If you count them as a "artifact" that just can't be played when you play a land can make them more useful.
@Hellraiser923
@Hellraiser923 6 жыл бұрын
I know im late to the party but with this list: Contested War Zone frome Mirrodin Besieged It taps for 1 colorless, pay 1 colorless and tap it, all attacking creatures get +1/0 AND if an opponent deals combat damage to you, they gain control of it.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
Card has actually seen some legit fringe play
@hemogoblin3076
@hemogoblin3076 5 жыл бұрын
Sorrows path is actually super useful in Zedruu
@charlesjohnson8619
@charlesjohnson8619 3 жыл бұрын
Maze of shadows wouldn't be terrible in a colorless edh deck. You could just have it replace a basic wastes.
@256mosh
@256mosh 4 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's path was fun to play in Donate decks back in the day
@KingQuetzal
@KingQuetzal 6 жыл бұрын
lol the first land you show Archaeological Dig sounds so good in a Muldrotha, the Gravetide landfall deck
@alexisfiligree9116
@alexisfiligree9116 6 жыл бұрын
Maze of Shadows is just fine in an eldrazi or artifact EDH deck. Then it's basically just a Wastes with a bonus. Same with Sheltered Valley...worst case scenario, you never gain any life with it...but it doesn't enter tapped or anything.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Alexis Filigree Yep, I mentioned Karn - pretty much same thing. Thing is, there are enough lands that are colorless with relevant abilities that those lands are still not really run very much, even in those decks, as EDHRec shoes us.
@ComradeArthur
@ComradeArthur 6 жыл бұрын
Sheltered Valley -not good in EDH. Regular magic, you can make it work. Coming with winter orb and Undiscovered paradise. no problem generating at least 2 mana a turn. More if you add mana rocks. Obviously, it's a control build.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 6 жыл бұрын
+Arthur Kimes Give me a call when you win some games in Vintage/Legacy using it.
@ComradeArthur
@ComradeArthur 6 жыл бұрын
I won some games with it when it was Type II legal!
@lovetownsend
@lovetownsend 5 жыл бұрын
Art is so good in a lot of these!
@ExKiwi-yw8er
@ExKiwi-yw8er 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to build a deck where I could tap sorrow's path for mana but the downside triggers when it's tapped for any reason. :/
@nartin9
@nartin9 5 жыл бұрын
Rhystic cave in a commander deck where you use it to trade for another players land
@nlb137
@nlb137 6 жыл бұрын
An-havva and co. would be pretty good, I think, if they tapped for one of their 'primary' color, and filtered for the others. Tap for G, or pay [1], tap for R or W.
@lewiefassett6502
@lewiefassett6502 6 жыл бұрын
Archaeological dig is a good card actually. It is used in a second sunrise and faith's reward combo deck my friend plays.
@urnx6172
@urnx6172 4 жыл бұрын
Oasis is actually pretty good in horobi, deaths wail decks in addition to normal lands as a "0" mana hard to destroy card that reads Tap this permanent: if you control your commander destroy target creature. Although it is not the best for this effect.
@StoneTitan
@StoneTitan 6 жыл бұрын
This is great, even the worst land ever should now be interesting. Sorrows path say hello to enraged !!! : ) Keep it up wizards keep making cards that can turn disadvantages into advantages(this is the interesting bit about magic, not power cards imo)
@SmartAlec1
@SmartAlec1 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's Path is great with Boros Reckoner/Spitemare/Stuffy Doll. I would say Kjeldoran but your team gets blasted the second time you produce it.
@Swimmerwoad
@Swimmerwoad 6 жыл бұрын
I hate the band lands because of one unforntunate event that happened when I was playing some commander. I randomized my deck (random lands as well), and got all 5 band lands. But not just that, I didn't draw my lands either. So i sat with 3 actual playable lands on my field. IMO band lands are the worst because of this experience.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
I love banding and all those unique mechanics, I would feel so good to get a hand like that.
@AlternativePlay
@AlternativePlay 6 жыл бұрын
Sorrow's Path, like City of Brass, triggers the downside whenever it is tapped for any reason whatsoever. While I still wouldn't consider it particularly viable to run in a deck, I wouldn't consider the purpose of it in a deck to be you controlling it; unless your deck benefits from dealing damage to either yourself or your creatures, like for the enrage mechanic. The most likely purpose of this card would be to give it to an opponent, and then abuse mechanics such as those of both Icy Manipulator and Ley Druid to put repeated damage on them and their creatures.
@legendnodensetsu8423
@legendnodensetsu8423 6 жыл бұрын
Rhystic Cave is actually really good. Your land make one mana of any color and doesn't enter tapped? People aren't gonna bother paying mana to prevent you getting any mana, unless you're playing against green.
@xaldrortenderofthevats8948
@xaldrortenderofthevats8948 6 жыл бұрын
Answer for sorrows path, Light of sanction (or is it sanction of light) from og Ravnica
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 5 жыл бұрын
PS: I recently decided to start collecting School of the Unseen, just because.
@bastionunitb7388
@bastionunitb7388 6 жыл бұрын
How I would fix archeological dig would be instead of sacrificing it I would have it start with 3 artifact tokens and you could tap it to produce any color of mana and remove one of the tokens Once they're all gone it can only produces colorless mana
@fidrewe99
@fidrewe99 2 жыл бұрын
But honestly... sorrow's path is the most efficient thing I've ever seen to deal damage to you and all of your creatures. Can be useful in special decks where this is desired.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761 6 жыл бұрын
1) play archaeological dig in titania 2) I agree, oasis is horrid 3)rhystic cave is part of my casual commander punisher deck 4) maze of shadows is bad, but I wish we had an energy version 5)sheltered Valley is bad 6)no comment on band lands 7)henge/school have better versions available 8)witchermoon is obnoxious with crucible 9)no. Just no. Just use the tarkir/alara Lands 10)I use it to kill 2 opponents blockers 10)
@Twinrehz
@Twinrehz 6 жыл бұрын
Eyh! Oasis counters the card Desert, from the same set! It's awesome, and it deserved its spot in my box of Laughable Cards!
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
Rainbow Vale from Fallen Empires is strictly worse than Archeological Dig. However it is more goofy, so I imagine that is why it gets more play. It taps to give mana of any color, then you pass control to the next opponent. If your entire group wants to get silly you just pass it around and everybody can cast their harder to cast cards. But if anyone plays to win, they just hold it until they need it for a game changing spell, or to win. Archeological Dig at least CAN be played without giving up card advantage, and at worst it is -1 if you sac it. It doesn't actively help your opponent. Rainbow Vale is WORSE than -1 card advantage and you don't even have the option to tap for colorless.
@KingDevyn
@KingDevyn 6 жыл бұрын
I thought I saw archaeological dig used in some storm list that ran delve cards once.
@jacksonfreeman5991
@jacksonfreeman5991 5 жыл бұрын
I guess for Sorrow's Path it might be neato in a Darien EDH deck? Take two but get 2 1/1s at instant speed?
@Nollland
@Nollland 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of good art there lol
@zzafrica87
@zzafrica87 5 жыл бұрын
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@johnokeefe7489
@johnokeefe7489 6 жыл бұрын
Halls of Mist and City of Shadows should probably be on the list and really nothing that you can play and immediately tap for 1 should crack the top 5. Maze of Shadows for example serves a very narrow purpose, but it at least functions as a land drop when you toss it into a random game.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
City of Shadows is actually pretty good in token decks, get rid of tokens that get blocked save up that mana for a Craterhoof Behemoth.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 5 жыл бұрын
Halls of Mist is actually pretty good, but it can't just be thrown in any random deck though.
@MrVariant
@MrVariant 6 жыл бұрын
Archaeological dig is fine if you use eldrazi and need colorless, same with most of the the other colorless stuff
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