MTG Top 10: WORST Selesnya Cards | Magic: The Gathering | Episode 315

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[@TheInfiniteLunacy]

I'm gonna be honest, it's probably a good idea to just exclude the Vanilla Legends from Legends from these lists. They're obviously almost always gonna be the worst ones.

[@Fritzgar]

Yeah, something like a short mention at the start of the video would be enough for them :D

[@Nukesnipe]

Just exclude every legend from Legends, they're all fucking terrible.

[@cobrallama6236]

I was going to say the same thing. They just clog up these lists and we've all seen them before.

[@johnalexander274]

I think the non-vanilla legends are fine for this list, they are kind of interesting, but yeah, vanilla legends are boring

[@skagra4290]

​@@Nukesnipe They're different levels of terrible, though. While Gabriel Angelfire is bad, it's the only selesnya legend with rampage and the legend with the most rampage. There's no reason to run an inefficient vanilla creature because there's always something better.

[@niggadogeater]

I would say that you should bundle all the legends from legends into an honorable mention. They are all awful, but it would be nice to see more bad cards that have interesting reasons for being bad.

[@MakotoAbsol451]

Agreed. If nothing changes then future lists will be too predictable.

[@lucasnewcomb7596]

i second this. these videos are great...aside from the obviously bad legends cards.

[@mattd3978]

I think he kind of did it this time. He bunched a few into one entry and only left the one with an ability separate

[@martintxo14]

top 10: legends from legends

[@differentting4215]

Honorable Mentions: All of them 10: none they all suck

[@monkeygaming2859]

@@differentting4215 no not really have you seen some of them they aren’t all bad especially angus Mackenzie who is a killer commander

[@snood4743]

@@differentting4215 Some of the rare legends actually have effects unlike the infamous uncommon ones.

[@sleprvrru6y-lin-92]

Thwy will all have 0 points

[@SisypheanSeas13]

Dakkon is cool art at least

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

1:57 "It should have been in Ikoria, Lair of Behemoths" To be honest, I'd love to have seen Banding counters in Ikoria, just to see how people would react.

[@GygasDistruttore]

Whoa, calm down satan.

[@jonathantillian6528]

I'd love to see banding. They keep making white be either "equipment dump" or "token dump" so banding would be welcome.

[@michagornicki7269]

Yes, alongside Mutate and Companion would make for the most convoluted/complicated set for tabletop MtG ever.

[@BoisegangGaming]

"When this Creature mutates, it Bands. Your opponent may then surrender as they try to figure out what Banding does and give up halfway through."

[@justinwinterspear]

In defense of Zebra unicorn and horned cheetah. Since they don't actually have lifelink if you stack lifelink on them you get double life

[@ElfHostage]

I once saw a documentary about prison inmates who were in prison for life and one guy had the nickname “double life”.

[@theopreston8507]

@@ElfHostage ok

[@RedOctober_]

thats still just a 4/2 lifelinker...

[@bstachutheuneatable1727]

@@RedOctober_ not rly. It'll still only do 2 damage to your opponent even if the double lifelink would put a 6 life gap. What gets crazy is when you toss some equipment on it (colossus hammer anyone?) In which case you can gain up to 20 life whenever it swings. That's no joke in a sovereign or reservoir deck. But the cost is still way too inefficient to justify. Are there any other pseudo lifelink creatures out there? Bc I kinda wanna build around this concept now.

[@julienpontus3225]

Use them in some Abzan nonsense along with Vito

[@manjr]

Now we know why Wizards is printing Jeweled Lotus: to let us play all those 7-mana legends as commanders. ;)

[@ich3730]

watch out for torsten on turn 2!

[@troythewizard9940]

Air is like food - required for living. I know I know, sometimes my genius surprises me, too. Feel free to share my wisdom

[@tannermattingly4462]

I was really surprised to see Nature's Blessing on here, just because it's one of the few old cards I have, and I actually use it in an EDH deck! I make use of it in my Tayam deck, where it serves as an okay way to get stuff out of my hand and into the graveyard while still feeding Tayam counters. Mostly though, I just use it as an excuse to introduce banding into commander games.

[@VivaTorf]

One interesting worst top10 would be the worst cards to have a top 8.

[@ProfessorJabir]

Seconded.

[@smegmalasagna]

That’s a great idea

[@crooker23]

he sort of did this in his top 10 jank video! it included a ton of decks that had absolute shit cards that managed to acquire a point or more in his system

[@VivaTorf]

@@crooker23 But there were good decks, like mono red in the 2000´s, who used cards like 2/2 for 1R with downside, because there were no better things available. Good decks, with one or another crappy card.

[@TheyCallHimPogo]

My step daughter has 2 zebra unicorns in her Unicorn deck. She'd be mad if she saw this lol

[@keatonkuuuun]

Yeah! I run Zebra Unicorn in my....Twilight Sparkle pony tribal commander deck. It's good! I swear!

[@mr.joesterr5359]

Awwww that’s adorable

[@koningderchromosomen6753]

are you winning step-daughter? nvm zebra unicorn

[@DimT670]

Now that we have unicorn commanders its time to help her build a unicorn commander deck

[@blabik]

Don't worry, they are still in the top 10 coolest crature types

[@brendanlock5046]

I don't know, I'd rather play votary of the conclave in limited than a lot of the other cards before it on the list. I mean, if you're playing an aggro deck a 1 mana 1/1 that has the possibility of regenerating sounds better than a 4 mana 2/2 that likely won't be doing much if anything

[@jay_344]

Right? Especially when it’s a single mana to bring out. Not a great card at all but it passes its vanilla test and has an upside.

[@ich3730]

@@jay_344 but tbf, a 1 mana 1/1 is not really passing vanilla test, you would never ever play a vanilla version of that stat line

[@jay_344]

@@ich3730 It pays for its stats. That passes. The vanilla test doesn't cover whether or not a creature is worth your while.

[@fernandobanda5734]

@@jay_344 The vanilla test is not just about numbers. A 1/1 for 1 doesn't really pass the vanilla test.

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

You know, while Selesnya is definitely not my favourite clan, I do appreciate that it is the colours where I can find Elephants, which are probably my 2nd favourite creature type. Of course, it's probably the most polarised clan, because it combines the worst colour with the best colour. Also, do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)," although given that Selesnya is home to Elephants, I would also accept "Top 10 Elephants (Minus Power 9)."

[@minced_man]

Peace and harmony, how boring.

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

@@minced_man I definitely prefer the Gruul *BIG ANGERY* methods myself.

[@nickbalmes6640]

Color me surprised Drew. I thought that Blue was your pick for strongest color being Emperor of Lobsters and all 😅

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

It's basically just a bunch of green cards with more restrictive mana costs since green has swallowed white's slice of the color pie almost completely lol

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

@@nickbalmes6640 The only true lobster in MTG is colourless. Hence why I'm open to any colour.

[@Monechetti]

I remember playing in grade school and Gabriel Angelfire was THE hot creature to have. It was such trade bait to pull them from Chronicles packs.

[@NailGunZero]

There is actually a commander deck with Gabiel Angelfire that got a hilarous wincondition.

[@thatonedudejake]

Oh boy, 1am

[@simonharbert2869]

OH BOY, 3 AM

[@rowantyler441]

OH BOY, 7AM

[@jacksonfitzsimmons4253]

East coast is for losers

[@Lil_Brimstone]

Gabriel Angelfire is pretty cool if you give him any effect that forces your opponent to block him with every creature. I have an EDH deck with him as commander and he won quite a few games. 7 mana is still waaaaaaaaay too much for him to be viable outside of casual.

[@brandonbernard1570]

Vitalizing Cascade’s flavor text has always irked me. It seems like they were trying to sound poetic or profound when they really just said something completely obvious.

[@Hmongboi228]

9:13 "I guess they were really worried that Torsten Von Ursus was going to get out of hand..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Well said.. 🤝

[@anondescript1134]

Ok hell yeah, big ups for mentioning that bad flavor text on 4, I was thinking the exact same.

[@todomachii]

These Top 10 are so much fun I hope you will keep doing them, maybe a Golgari one?

[@chrismitchell4665]

Any chance of an archetype guide for Commander Legends? I LOVE your guides. Best MTG content on KZbin.

[@connorl.393]

One of my friends played Gabriel Angelfire when I was just starting out and I thought it was so good until now.

[@jerrycaroprese8405]

I've found that Nature's Blessing is a card that I always like to have on the battlefield. Even if you never use it, the threat of activation can put your opponent(s) in awkward attacking & blocking situations. Also (as mentioned), a great use for late-game land cards drawn. I could see this card on an underrated list, not a worst-of list.

[@ArchangelJaceAscended]

I used to play Folk Medicine in my squirrel deck back in the day. If I remade it now, I probably wouldn't play it but it was nifty at the time.

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

Votary of the conclave was one of the first cards I owned from a random multi-pack product I got from my father's side of the family one christmas after they heard I played yugioh (they weren't trying to convert me, they made a mistake)

[@TwoCentReview]

It’s also funny that the bad water quote on Vitalizing Cascade is not on a blue (water) card.

[@jeffmassicott7186]

Nizzahon goin after my archer tribal bashing Lady Caleria 😅 Great vid man

[@prosfilaes]

Votary of the Conclave is a one-mana 1/1; seems like it would certainly see play in Limited and be much more useful than some of these other cards.

[@EEE_MMM]

I half expected Lord Magnus to have made the list... Blocking creatures with plainswalk adds though they didn't have this ability. There are four. Four. In all of blackbordered Magic. Four.

[@ashra8281]

Idea, top 10 strongest colour combinations (including mono and colourless) might be a shit ton of work though

[@seanhavok9741]

Nature's Blessing seems playable in a deck with a reanimtor subtheme, not optimal, but fun.

[@Zanthosus]

As someone with a Gabriel Angelfire EDH deck... You're probably right, but I enjoy him all the same.

[@faerie7dragon]

Respect.

[@awsomeman350]

It's sad, godtoucher is such a great name for a card

[@MackNJacishopper]

Believe me, people arnt playing Vitalizing Cascade for the extra life gain.

[@Doggy_Styles_Coding]

Can you do a ranking of all Guilds from less played to most played ?

[@JujuInFlames]

I think a cool subjective video you could do would be cards that should’ve been in another color “cards that should have been red” etc

[@y0_jimb0]

Check out MTG Top 10: BIGGEST Color Pie Breaks - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWbWZoCJhJapr5I

[@AidanWR]

Looks at Elderwood Scion. Yep, checks out, all of the lifelinkers have horns

[@MorbidAri]

I love this video and Rakdos, but I agree with the legends sentiment. Yes we literally all know that the UNCOMMON legends in the Legends set are bad. Don't forget: they were printed at UNCOMMON. With the Rakdos video, you could have added Boris Devilboon. 4 mana for a single 1/1 token in Rakdos is terrible, but he was printed at a rarity that is worth talking about. Still look forward to all of the other videos, even if I know exactly what cards are winning the top spot.

[@bstachutheuneatable1727]

I think what was secretly being said at the end of this list is that Niz low key wants Jasmine as his commander

[@mournziiLife303]

Do you think natures blessing would be good if it was just WG with the activated ability being 1 colorless?

[@nicklarocco4178]

When will we be blessed with a top 10 worst legends from legends video?

[@malign3158]

I like how you even have a logical system for deciding worst cards

[@michaelbenzinger9862]

I was a little surprised to not see Steel Leaf Paladin on this list. A 4/4 that costs you 6 mana and you have to return an appropriately colored creature when it enters seems very sub-optimal to me, even adding in first strike.

[@stevenglowacki8576]

That kind of ability is generally going to be used when it's likely to be upside, like returning an Eternal Witness to your hand. In those cases, it's a decent amount of value for the cost.

[@AidanWR]

Along with Vitalizing Cascade, there are sole life gain cards that are way better than that. Like heroes Reunion, gives 7 life for two mana in Selesnya, and even that's not that great

[@hobrev]

I feel like Legends might have the no1 spot on every 2 color worst list...

[@Triforcer]

Are you gonna do a cycle of worst of 2 color combo videos?

[@DimT670]

Lady caleria is like in the top 20 cards from legends

[@mella4376]

I can see myself running the zebra in EDH unicorn tribal

[@celebrim1]

Sir Shandler and Torsten may fail a modern vanilla test, but they certainly didn't fail the vanilla test when they were printed. Literally, the standards for a vanilla creature have been raised TWICE since the time Legends was printed. 5/5 for 6 mana or 4/7 for 6 mana with no drawbacks wasn't terrible back in the day. Pretty much any 5/5 was a bomb at the time if you could get it into play, and with most people playing free for all casual games, dropping bigger cards than anyone else had felt good.

[@blue17echo]

i play both of the #9 picks in my nostalgia based lifelink tribal edh deck. it is a bad deck that is mostly present to be funny, not good. (as noted in other comments, they stack with lifelink. if i add an armadillo cloak, a behemoth sledge then we have triple lifelink, adding an angel of destiny makes it sort of quadruple life link.)

[@flashfan2]

Nature's blessing could be good in an Apex of Death commander deck. That deck is abzan and wants cards in the graveyard and cares about keywords

[@ninacochrane569]

Tbh, i think the only reason Horned Cheetah sees play is because it's a G/W cat.

[@irou95]

I know you hate onedrops but after playing m21 and znr my decks are packed with onedrops. So 1 mana 1/1 that regenerates would definitely be in my limited deck especially If it had auras or equipment

[@CmdrUD87]

6:30 Fail: Vitalizing Cascade doesn't have Cascade

[@hiimemily]

Jasmine Boreal would be okay nowadays if she cost 1GW. A little less restrictive on mana than Woolly Thoctar for the same size creature with the drawback of being legendary. Probably still wouldn't even see Standard play.

[@holotori_senior_admin_teno]

On that side note; I'm not sure I'd consider a five mana 4/5 more efficient than a six mana 4/7, let alone "way" more efficient. Still, it's comparing bad to bad, clearly.

[@makotoxchihiroyaoifangirl8409]

They are almost equal in effiency if by efficiency you mean the total power and toughness you get per mana. 5 mana 4/5 is 1.8 power+toughness per mana while a 6 mana 4/7 is 1.83333...... power+toughness per mana.

[@kjmergen]

Jasmine Boreal is one of the best pieces of Magic art in the history of the game.

[@streetpeter3210]

I love me some Selesnya!! Second to Mardu

[@nyft3352]

Thank you Vitalizing Cascade, now I know I must hydrate to be alive.

[@jaggededge11]

Honestly, #10 isn't that bad as it offers G/W a discard outlet. While not the greatest of cards, a reusable discard outlet in those colours is pretty legit.

[@TheDarkever]

Awww and here I thought for once the multicolored legendaries from Legends wouldn't be in first place. Nope. Btw I think the life-gain card that ended up in 3rd place is even worse than those legends ;P

[@Illusionmaker_MTG]

But Zebra Unicon is cute :O

[@seilaoquemvc2]

Came here to see if emmara tandris would make the list, I bet she was pretty close

[@DimT670]

What why? Shes pretty good and sees a lot of play in edh

[@seilaoquemvc2]

@@DimT670 yeah, she might see play in EDH decks that aren't really trying to win, but she's an objectively bad card. she´s like they disassembled Vigor and failed to put it back together. IMO, she's worse than Lady Caleria, who made the list.

[@PeliPelaaja]

Where is the Commander Legends draft guide?

[@LatinoJackson]

That art tho, you know which one I'm talking about 😎

[@theblanklogo]

Came here to say the same thing.

[@I43573]

Id like to give her a vitalizing cascade if you know what i mean

[@guilhermeribeiromichelino3852]

I had a deck with folk medicine when I was a kid. hahaha really bad

[@theblanklogo]

After seeing Godtoucher, it might be time to make the worst EDH deck ever. The only requirement is the card has great art.

[@heath1948]

Number five is really doable because you were in green

[@tetrisaurousRex]

Legend is not a downside for some of these cards as some are so bad that no one would play it, thus if you are the only to play it, it’s sooo bad that you won’t see it and no one would want to copy it

[@gregthewalnut603]

Have you done worst sets yet?

[@carmengeigerschutz]

Always midnight with this guy huh?

[@mikejh1604]

Folk medicine in pauper elves?

[@NizzahonMagic]

No

[@mikejh1604]

@@NizzahonMagic Worth a shot :)

[@movezig5]

No Emmara Tandris?!

[@keithmiller597]

I think Selesnya Sentry is similar to but worse than Votary of the Conclave

[@NizzahonMagic]

With a baseline of a 3 mana 3/2, I see it as a lot better than the votary.

[@alextway8497]

i dont even know what a selesnya is and yet im watching this

[@-ZH]

Is 1 mana 1/1 that bad?

[@aliertufekci1993]

There are just way too many 1 mana 1/1s that do something better (Soul Warden, Serra Ascendant; Mother of Runes; Champion of the Parish) or 1 drops that have better stats (Isamaru, Hound of Konda; Savannah Lions, Archpriest of Iona) or even a combination of both (such as Giant Killer) for Votary of the Conclave to be good. It just has too much competition.

[@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825]

legends should be out of those multicolored worst cards list, because it is always an overkill....

[@blackmistninja]

Was gonna sleep, then I saw a Nizzahon vid... I rolled a critical fail on this sleep check...

[@RaynmanPlays]

Top 10 downside cards (Steel Golem, Kezzerdrix, Chance for Glory, etc). Paying life, cumulative upkeep, etc. do not count.

[@johngleeman8347]

I think if you reduced the generic mana cost of all legendary creatures in the Legends set by 3-4 and remastered the card art people would play them in Commander. Shame about that pesky reserve list making even horrible cards untouchable.

[@yamael14]

GGWW Gabriel Angelfire Legendary Angel Flying, first strike, trample, rampage 3 4/4 Good?

[@abolishshekeluse3782]

x+3 life is actually strictly better than stream of life otherwise I agree

[@NizzahonMagic]

Stream of life can also target other players, so group hug people like it.

[@abolishshekeluse3782]

@@NizzahonMagic like i said strictly better

[@apolinarhowell7783]

Lessss Go🐐🔥🐐🔥🐐🔥

[@julienpontus3225]

🦄

[@wisperingiron3646]

Folk medicine should be lower, just because of the artwork

[@woodysmith2681]

Anything prior to Tempest as a creature or multi-colored card should be excluded from Worst lists.

[@JD-gk7eh]

It's really interesting how being multicolored and Legendary in LEGENDS was seen an upside that needed to be costed HIGHER than monocolor cards. I'm really not sure why.

[@RedOctober_]

BTW why is the votary so bad? I see cards worse than this all the time, I would certainly rather play it than all the other cards on this list. At least it can be an infinite blocker

[@jamesgasik3424]

"Also, Jasmine is hot."

[@psychicflora]

I went to watch the top 10 selesnya first

[@Booberly]

So what about top 10 worst cards to top 8 or whatever

[@chrisbelair5916]

Worst Hexproof when?

[@xChikyx]

all these tops are going to have the same type of #1...

[@Scrye750]

Kind of strange but in MTG's beginning, the legendary creature from Legends were not so bad because they were big with no drawbacks. But now, they are horrible!

[@bobgoogwin123]

everytime i see "worst x" i want to put it into my deck

[@adancein]

Jedit Ojanen No.1, safe. Edit: Forgot that guy was azorius.

[@sohorny4myself]

10 Sexiest cards

[@RedOctober_]

Nature's blessing has horrible art. The anatomy is just awful. The nose and eyes don't line up. The chin is way too narrow. What is going on with the hair? Magic art has come a long way XD

[@user-lr7do7yy1l]

first

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

second XD

[@ulrichs.3228]

"But with infinite mana, you could gain infinite life" ... and be left with infinite mana which will burn you for infinite damage. (I know mana burn isn't a thing anymore. And I know you don't mean aleph-nought mana when you say infinite, you just mean "arbitrarily high". I'm just being a maths nerd, I guess? At least the infinite damage would still leave you with infinite life.)

[@bchamp1]

A lot of these cards aren't Selesnya. They're just in the same colors.