It's awesome that arena players can try out this old broken archetypes from legacy and back. Gives these old broken cards a home besides these hard to break into eternal formats
@thedude5able8 ай бұрын
The closest they'll get to playing Legacy
@mattm77988 ай бұрын
True, This is essentially Legacy with even some banned Legacy cards. I don't think Timeless needs the OG Duals or Wasteland to be a great format. My question tho is...are people even still playing Historic? For me, if I want current, I have standard, more power, Explorer, eternal style format, Timeless. I guess Historic is like Modern without the love the Modern format has.
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle8 ай бұрын
@@mattm7798I play historic because most of the spikes have moved on to timeless and explorer so it's quite chill
@MelficeN78 ай бұрын
@@mattm7798 Historic is played more than explorer yes.
@travisbrown99368 ай бұрын
I really wish legacy wasn’t so damn expensive, I’ve played it on mtgo before and it’s tons of fun it’s just stupidly expensive in paper.
@ryanbolson238 ай бұрын
8:06 the audacity of the opponent sleeping emote when they are doing the same exact “cheating things out” build idea. Wild.
@VivBrodock7 ай бұрын
touch grass
@locksmithvic31186 ай бұрын
Right???
@davidcrawford53245 ай бұрын
It wasn't about the fact that he had a jank deck. It was more because Seth was taking forever to decide what he wanted to do and was mulling over everything in his hand. I can easily see why someone would do the snooze emote in that situation
@Rocknoob495 ай бұрын
I think that was a "lying down to die" kinda situation
@Metallicity8 ай бұрын
22:31 "Now we can't really Thoughtseize" - Seth, choosing not to chump block with a mana dork despite having 5 lands in play
@cecilenaught8 ай бұрын
This also makes me confused as to why he didn't use the Shaman that he saved to create a black mana for the Thoughtseize?...
@rekenner8 ай бұрын
@@cecilenaught because casting thoughtseize would kill him
@MTGGoldfish8 ай бұрын
We were a land away from hardcasting Atraxa though!
@BeaglzRok18 ай бұрын
24:45 "No fear" [proceeds to show fear] We have learned nothing from Colorless Infect.
@greymon902108 ай бұрын
In the last game of last match at 54:30 you could have made him kill himself. Take his turn, play his land, cast bowmasters targeting himself. Then play Yawg, sac his board to yawg to lose the last 4 life
@guilhermedasilva17958 ай бұрын
Cruelty haha
@chrishoye558 ай бұрын
6:17 Seth please pay attention to all the cards atraxa reveals 😭 there was a Brainstorm in there that could've helped find the s&t
@OnePointSafety8 ай бұрын
@47:54 you should have gotten an uptapped blue source to brainstorm to hide the show and tell
@Sevifor8 ай бұрын
Yes! And it's not like the two life from shocking a land into play was going to be a deciding factor in a combo vs combo matchup. It wasn't even that long ago in the video where Seth talks about using Brainstorm to hide cards from Thoughtseize!
@bobwilson6798 ай бұрын
Agreed, he even talked about it before, hard punt
@bobwilson6798 ай бұрын
Luckily he still managed to pull it out
@alexandera.92858 ай бұрын
Nice i am excited to watch this Deck! I saw Jim Davis playin "borne upon a Wind" in his Deck to win in response to opponents Meteor golem (etb from Show and Tell) targetin the omniscience. So satisfying!
@123leviathan1238 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you liked the deck. The version Jim used was card for card what I had posted online lol. Sorry, gotta brag when given the opportunity.
@bobby_tablez8 ай бұрын
@@123leviathan123 Loved that deck! Borne upon a wind is sooo good
@shadowfox5138 ай бұрын
54:36 protection from black means opponent can't block your flying vigilant hasty creatures, Atraxa by herself was lethal, but with emmy it was super lethal. Though I guess opponent was holding up boseiju for the akroma's memorial to gain the life? Either way, opponent was dead probably 4 different ways
@Africa44448 ай бұрын
I've been pretty happy playing domain zoo and getting out leyline binding to just immediately snipe the omniscience.
@thoptercrew8 ай бұрын
The amount of love I have for this series is probably equivalent to my age, but please give us more 🙏🏻
@davidcochran69748 ай бұрын
!punt against domain 38:30. Chump with DRS let's you untap with 3 life after fetching so you can clear the way with thoughtsieze first?
@migwetchi92538 ай бұрын
it's quite likely they had more Bindings though since they weren't playing anything
@davidcochran69748 ай бұрын
@@migwetchi9253I absolutely agree that he could have seen a hand of domain induced anxiety and still lost, but DRS had no impact on whether or not show and tell succeeded. Not a game winning call, but could definitely have mattered
@JustAnotherPest8 ай бұрын
If the last month of ranked queue is anything to go by, they don't need to be taught about Show and Tell. They already know about it.
@TransformersBoss3 ай бұрын
35:51 Fable is so strong that Seth thinks any Red Saga is Fable
@Conradd238 ай бұрын
46:20 Yawg and Hapatra isn't infinite on it's own. They need a young wolf, or you to have a bunch of toughness worth of creatures for them to target. You shouldn't have conceded that game.
@dylankramer92498 ай бұрын
Nice. I'm a Show and Reanimate for legacy fan.
@ggtoxin61488 ай бұрын
The answer i see is enchantment based removal like leyline binding because they hit almost everything. Although atraxa's etb and grizlebrand's ability can be used in response, it still stops omnecience and gets a body out of the way
@darksideofthesand8 ай бұрын
Honestly Agent of Treachery and Boromir are both solid answers. There is a Winota deck that plays both that absolutely wrecks this deck. When your opponent banks on omniscience and you put out a body that shuts it off it's normally GG and with the way the deck paces out even if they drop an Atraxa instead then you drop Winota and swing and if you hit an Agent then you just steal the opponents board.
@apexblyxx8 ай бұрын
I should do a Video called "This is why Counterspell was Banned for YEARS"
@lachlank.82708 ай бұрын
Planeswalkers Hate It! FRUSTRATE your opponents with this one weird cantrip!
@thedude5able8 ай бұрын
Do it! It sounds like it'd be a great video, although you'd probably have to specify the format or time period for it make sense.
@ev_ring8 ай бұрын
Do it
@canismajor11868 ай бұрын
Counterspell was never banned. It simply wasn't printed into standard for modern/pioneer.
@apexblyxx8 ай бұрын
@@canismajor1186 I do not Play Paper or MTGO(Horrible) any more, so all I hvae to go on for the last few years is Arena and its Formats.
@axioms228 ай бұрын
here for the misplays, was not disappointed
@davidcrawford53245 ай бұрын
LOL the opponent wasn't being sneaky with the Leyline Binding when you played your first Show and Tell. They simply didn't have it at the time. The one they eventually played to get rid of your Omniscience was one that they drew later on I'm fairly certain
@davidhansen50678 ай бұрын
Bringing in Veil of Summer against Domain can sometimes protect your Omniscience from Leyline Binding since Leyline of the Guildpact makes Binding all colors.
@47Mortuus8 ай бұрын
LMFAO so 1) they have to have Leyline turn 0 2) they have to have a Binding when you S&T 3) you have to have Omniscience 4) you have to have 4 mana 5) and you have to have your 1-of Veil of Summer All of the above (probably less then 2-3%) or VoS is almost a dead card? That's your reasoning while sideboarding? You Bronze 4 life or what?
@246moneymaker7 ай бұрын
35:50 that wasn’t even fable man😭😂
@jmdamas8 ай бұрын
I like more the Mastermind's acquisition sideboard win con, which also works as tutor in the deck instead of dead cards like memorial
@provostparkpass8 ай бұрын
I love this series! I learn so much
@slightgraph898 ай бұрын
I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but when I put your videos on in the background I do all the chores I've been putting off for days, then I get frustrated that I didn't actually listen and watch them over again. Crim I need to actually watch but you and Phil put me into productivity mode and I need to watch the video again later lol
@Aronia558 ай бұрын
Show and Tell decks have been kicking my ass while playing the sacrifice deck Seth build :p Like he says, different kind of magic.
@MTGGoldfish8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Show and Tell has changed the meta at the moment.
@Solo_Shuckle8 ай бұрын
I have a small idea for this deck, if you are worried about Leyline Bindings, maybe throw in some stifles.
@marcusakiti76086 ай бұрын
Love the content! Super cool deck. Always fun seeing people play timeless. Random question on deckbuilding. I see 4x Assemble the Team, but only one Demonic Tutor. Why not reverse?
@faultywiring10046 ай бұрын
Your videos of recording gameplay are my favorite, I definitely find you the most entertaining in this setting. Have you considered an even heavier focus on this?
@person31768 ай бұрын
death and taxes, containment priest, loran of the third path, heck yeah. could also dive into black for discard spells of course. (for show and tell answers)
@AxelKaenryuu8 ай бұрын
Show and tell and storm made me mainboard Rule of Law ,to great results, suprisingly, i'm getting a lot of people playing these decks.
@McArRuIzO8 ай бұрын
11:50 The dual animation of Carnage Tyrant and Nullhide Ferrox hitting the battlefield would light up any Timmy's heart. I really wish they kept up the animations.
@k.schuffs46578 ай бұрын
Shouldnt this deck have tidebinder or tales end to protect against binding and titan of industry?
@TransformersBoss3 ай бұрын
47:53 absolute punt. Grab an Island from Boseiju and play Brainstorm to hide your S+T
@thecrazycapn8 ай бұрын
Would Stifle in the sideboard be worth it? Stops Leyline Binding in those matchups, or Titan of Industry. Also stops Boseju.
@jacksun238 ай бұрын
Green decks have the best answer to Show and Tell in Titan of Industry. The titan can blow up Omniscience before it can do anything, it can beat Atraxa in combat with a shield counter, and green has multiple ways to tutor up the Titan (even at instant speed with archdruid charm).
@ellfangor88 ай бұрын
Was your game 1 missing the Agent of Treachery mentioned in the intro?
@HurricaneGregor8 ай бұрын
Definitely agree we need Timeless Anthologies with relevant cards. It would be sweet to eventually have Vintage on Arena (power 9 are already coded with Oracle of the Alpha 😉) but I imagine we'll have to wait 5+ years for that (though with power creep, who knows).
@HomicidalTh0r8 ай бұрын
When two people do show and tell in class, and the other kid brought something way cooler than yours:V
@CyberNewType8 ай бұрын
Made it about halfway through the video. Deck is nuts! Seems to easy to actually be fun long term though.
@picassodilly8 ай бұрын
I feel like the land that you can sac to cast spells with flash could be decent as either main deck or sideboard protection against things like ley line binding because then you could go off in response to the etb trigger.
@picassodilly8 ай бұрын
But maybe that’s just the brawl player in me…
@ZSAITOSEI8 ай бұрын
Ahhh, wartime flashbacks to old Standard...
@JonReid018 ай бұрын
52:46 didn't you make a new year's resolution not to play scared?! Cmon man!
@MTGGoldfish8 ай бұрын
There's a fine line between playing scared and playing smart. With an Atraxa already on the battlefield I'm not sure it's really worth trying to do more there.
@JonReid018 ай бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish you're right and you explained it well at the time. I just got hasty and paused the video to type my comment before you explained your reasoning 😂 keep up the good work love the vids
@TheHouseCommunity8 ай бұрын
Why scoop to Yawgmoth, Hapatra and blood artist? That wont start a loop, would it?
@josephsweeney31987 ай бұрын
Do you think the Approach of the Second Sun win condition version is better than the emrakul/griselbrand variant?
@camerongrey36438 ай бұрын
Totally agree that the issue with Timeless is that the answers haven’t caught up to the threats. It makes the format feel very rock paper scissors, where the strategy you play matters much more than the decisions you make in game. Also, why did they print “assemble the team” … has any format been improved by more {anything} tutors?
@bahumat98538 ай бұрын
Just me thinking aloud: at 48:00 you took the surveil land from boseiju: wouldn't it be better to take an island and tuck the show and tell/akroma's memorial with Brainstorm to keep them safe?
@DarthChewdup8 ай бұрын
back in 2013, i would regularly proxy legacy decks for my friend to practice his legacy show and tell, sneak attack hypergenesis deck against and this is bringing back the memories. i had another friend who wanted to practice his oops all spells deck and he refused to play pact of negation and i kept playing interaction (orim's chant, force of will, daze, mental misstep, etc) and letting him lose next turn to his draw and he got so salty and eventually put pact in his sideboard.
@pokclaymonmaster52868 ай бұрын
I played grixis show and tell running sheoldred the apocalypse along side griselbrand for life gain and card draw. Got laughed at till I was gaining life vs losing for drawing. Might rebuild it and add the new atraxa too
@ProfessorRaven8 ай бұрын
Omni-tell is such a fun old archetype, just playing so many op spells because of no cost
@TheREALTheRealAdam8 ай бұрын
I wonder how a Stax deck with Thalia and Lavinia (maybe even Containment Priest and/or Meddling Mage) would fare.
@jocoder2558 ай бұрын
23:30 Minor misplay maybe: could have put emrakul down instead to gain control of their turn and use up leyline bindings. That would only have worked if they had two leyline bindings though
@Ozzie8408 ай бұрын
I thought of that too but it wouldnt work. Emrakul's control your opponent ability activates on cast, not ETB. It would just be a 13/13 at that point.
@jocoder2558 ай бұрын
@@Ozzie840 Ah lol
@TransformersBoss3 ай бұрын
46:13 I don’t think you needed to scoop here, did you? Yawgmoth needs creatures to target and creatures to sac, and the opponent was a little short. You probably had the win
@ninshjok8 ай бұрын
I came back to arena after like 3 years, I was playing minored burn, the budget version from your video, and I won a lot of matches thanks to people not understanding "that silly red enchantment" until I climb to diamond and people just put an atraxa into play 😂
@ju50398 ай бұрын
one of bourne upon the wind might be a good silver bullet to have in the tutor package
@sammielawrence47818 ай бұрын
Hey Seth; love your content just wanted to give a suggestion for lowering your gain on your microphone for the intros. Just had a flashback of Chocolate Rain with the lack of turning away from the mic to breathe. Love ya mate
@dumbledalfthewizard94868 ай бұрын
You can respond to the fetch trigger by eating it with deathrite and then brainstorming Pretty cool trick
@Erik_Sjostrom8 ай бұрын
This deck looks real fun, the problem is the wildcards
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer8 ай бұрын
What do you do if someone does something like Rule of Law / Arcane Laboratory when you Omniscience? Doesn't that throw a massive spanner in the works?
@Jigsawtwig2 ай бұрын
In the second set could you have chumped with DRS and been at 3 instead of 1, allowing you to thoughtseize?
@xxlpulselxx8 ай бұрын
I pulled Show and Tell as a special guest card in my pre-release pool. I also had the new Niv. I pulled it off on-curve in 4 separate games. You have no idea how much 3 mana mono-colored removal is in Markov... :(
@TransformersBoss8 ай бұрын
My favorite part was when Seth said “It’s Show ‘n Tellin’ time!” and then showed and told all over Arena 13:46
@mattm77988 ай бұрын
Curious how the Timeless format will be managed. Will they try and curtail the REALLY broken decks by restricting individual cards, or will they bring in a card like Force of Will to do most of the heavy lifting? But if they do the latter, it essentially make blue the best color in the format just like Legacy. Maybe they treat Timeless as a casual format and just let everything be broken, since as it currently stands, timeless is a terrible competitive format, but a hilarious casual one.
@firebrock8 ай бұрын
Would it be goofy to run a stifle or something similar in sideboard in case you run into more leyline binding decks?
@awildsylveon98967 ай бұрын
Love to see the best deck in the format be a gimmicky combo deck Goldfish would like
@brownout1008 ай бұрын
after their first win, i was rooting so hard for tenacious pup deck.
@rupert75658 ай бұрын
What do you think of running stifle or some disallow type of effect to protect the omniscience?
@MTGGoldfish8 ай бұрын
I think the best answer is Borne on the Winds so we can just combo off in response to someone trying to blow up Omniscience.
@rupert75658 ай бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish i can see that, this deck does love the card draw.
@fedemza20078 ай бұрын
I played yesterday agains one of those decks, looks super fun to play, not so fun if you are just playing pauper...
@Tylerbremner6 ай бұрын
Those force of negations were so uslesss so many times
@mrpinguimninja7 ай бұрын
Honest question: would running containment priest work as a counter to show and tell?
@denversmith5556Ай бұрын
Might wanna build a variant of this in paper, are any of these cards illegal in modern Seth?
@CDShap8 ай бұрын
I played against something very similar a few days ago. The guy used thoughtseize right before show and tell to make sure he didn't give me the win.
@noahhager11878 ай бұрын
made an aged deck after seeing this. loved the omniscience yoink.
@nomadichero128 ай бұрын
Maybe another 6+ power flyer to end the game a little easier (not having to get Emmy)? Razaketh or Villis seem decent? Tho it doesn't seem to come into play here. Sideboard tear asunder for binding? Love the deck tho it seems memey
@Karakuribear8 ай бұрын
I've been playing a show and tell deck and when I saw the title of this video I went oh no
@garageink748 ай бұрын
I love timeless but Omnitell has sucked the desire to play the game out of my soul.
@cifonemc8 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t casting the sanctity at 46:11 have prevented the Yag win in game one?
@musicmanley8 ай бұрын
What about adding stifle to the deck for things like Leyline Binding?
@bystander853 ай бұрын
Not only would coding cards for a Timeless Anthology be great for expanding the format over time but also put us closer to Vintage cube on MTGA.
@gamer79168 ай бұрын
Kinda surprised this version isn’t playing dig through time
@cuddlequeen32258 ай бұрын
This deck is obscenely easy to win with. Love it
@johnsnow51258 ай бұрын
Timeless looks absolutely painful now
@DylanHunter648 ай бұрын
Every time there's a new Timeless video or stream, I feel like the deck being played is like the most insanely broken thing I've seen in the format. It happens so often it's wild.
@AAtac-hw2sf8 ай бұрын
We did it boys and girls, we finally broke Show and Tell
@lenardEkko8 ай бұрын
yeah I think this is marginally more consistant than the sutai (or dimir) Fae of wishes version of Show and tell
@flamaster17578 ай бұрын
At 47:54 you could have gotten an island and brainstormed to protect the combo
@theboofester23518 ай бұрын
I got killed by this deck in bronze before I even saw this video
@ArcticShallRule8 ай бұрын
yesssss one of my faves
@twi1ightknight8 ай бұрын
Would force of negation hold this deck back?
@Sliverlife18 ай бұрын
I don't think you were actually dead to Yawg there without the undying creature...
@Mr._PastaMan8 ай бұрын
Couldn't you have a main deck stiffle effect to counter layline binding
@Laevus23218 ай бұрын
You love prison decks, so build that white (+?) Leyline of Sanctity taxes deck you mentioned to try and hate on it and any Necro decks floating around. As you've helped to get the word out, making sure the format will be flooded with it, how about an Against the Odds to balance it out? :D
@yinxellsco39778 ай бұрын
Isnt sneak attack on arena too ? why not making a full sneak n show deck ?
@dylanbaker36818 ай бұрын
@mtggoldfish they need to launch a secret layer, inspector gadget, karn the great creator as the inspector 😂
@aarondan86588 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does it look like Seth is commentating on a pre-recorded video during the game at 19:15
@Oznej2 ай бұрын
Can someone please help, what does he say at 3:37? "The easiest way to do this is discard a..." Sounds like he says "factious", which is not a card nor a word I've ever heard?
@Atmapalazzo8 ай бұрын
what's funny is that I find the Natural Order + Show and Tell deck is very good at beating the Omnitell deck. Omnitell really only has Show and Tell into Omni for winning, which is risky since Titan of Industry and Boseiju will beat an Omni while Order + Tell can rely on Order to win. Edit: How do you get these matchups? Even If the person is on a decent deck they punt like their life depends on it. WHAT IS THIS VOODOO SETH?!
@baltosstrupelos3028 ай бұрын
I think this is why I started like control more!
@rekenner8 ай бұрын
It's just hard to balance having game against aggro and combo (and control is like 0% into lands), but Control is pretty good into OmniTell
@dallinhilton31898 ай бұрын
Can you do me a huge favor and win with only lightning helix? Kinda like when you played that all sheoldred deck a while ago. Every card is technically a lightning helix… I have some ideas.