Much Abrew: Fist of Suns (Modern, Magic Online)

Is using Fist of Suns to put Emrakul and huge planeswalkers like Ugin and Nicol Bolas into play a legitimate plan in Modern? Let's find out!
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Match 1: 4:00
Match 2: 14:07
Match 3: 30:49
Match 4: 48:24
Match 5: 1:01:32

[@thundercleese]

Seth! You can also pay 5 mana for the pentad prism with a fist of suns out to get 5 charge counters on it.

[@jaff8911]

It's cmc is 2 tho

[@rctfan7]

@@jaff8911 with the way fist of sun's works, because it's an alternate casting cost it would enter with 5 charge counters if you used fist of sun's to cast it

[@thundercleese]

@@jaff8911 Fist of suns give a replacement cost of WUBRG and with the sunburst ability on pentad prism, you get 5 charge counters instead of 2 when you pay that alternate 5 cmc cost.

[@PolskiSuzeren]

Jaff additionally, Sunburst doesn't care about the actual cost of the card, only the number of colors paid into it. So alternative costs or extra costs count.

[@ahunter7563]

@@PolskiSuzeren yup,i fucked up a hatebear player's math by getting 3 counter with a prisms because he had a thalia out.

[@tonycole340]

"fisting the suns" lol seth never change

[@alexvelazquez8851]

Fisting the sun ........

[@alexvelazquez8851]

I cant un-hear it now

[@wookie_ze]

Sooo many missed "fisting" opportunities though ^_^

[@spencerestes7563]

@@wookie_ze probably for the best lmao

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

Fist an emerakul into play

[@sluggaboyzWC3]

That jund fight, "you should have aimed for the head." SNAP.

[@matousrican5831]

13:49 opponent has exactly six permanents and 15 life. That's nice :)

[@lari5875]

Sooo close ones match 3 & 4. Very happy to see modern, thanks!

[@davidgatten1033]

This has been one of my favorite much abrews, the amount of surprise emrkuls is priceless lol

[@Magnivore519]

"Alright, mmmUUUUCh Abrew about Nothing™ tiiiime, and. we. are. Fisting our opponents. IIIIIIIIIiiiiinnnn modern."

[@HeartOfStone.]

Lmfaoooooo it's been a year but I'll be the on to appreciate this

[@colinjones5379]

Another top tier thumbnail from Adriano Kitani, what a legend.

[@cloysterd]

This video is a good lesson on why you need more than 2 sideboard slots dedicated to graveyard hate.

[@robspear03]

Seems bad. You could have 4 or more dedicated hate cards for graveyard strategies and still lose. By the time you board in these "more than 2 cards", you have drastically diluted your initial strategy. "Just surviving" is not winning. I am all for LOTV as a 4 of in alot of decks...but as i said, late game dead draws can cost you the game. Its the difference between trying to over-hate on a faster deck against recognizing a blatantly bad matchup.

[@thoticcusprime9309]

@@robspear03 Blah blah blah. wrong

[@lavetha27]

Cool deck but it seems like many of your wins came through Through the Breach and Fist of the Suns was Plan B. As such I think it would make sense to move up to 4x Breach/4X Primeval Titan. It doesn't hurt to have a card you can hard cast in Titan and sometimes turn 4 Titan will be enough by itself. I'd shave the Fist of the Suns down to 3 copies as multiples are redundant and get rid of some of the planeswalkers that don't seem to fit. Finally, I know Pentad Prism is considered the gold standard for effects like that but I like 2x Chromatic Lantern. The effect is permanent instead of one shot and seems like it would better fix your mana for Fist of the Suns as you'd only need any 4x lands plus lantern or 3x lands, lantern, mana dork to get all five colors. You don't need multiples as the effect is redundant but 2x seems like it would have helped in certain situations. I'd like to see a deck with the same dorks you have right now (arbor elf, birds, sprawl) into turn 2 Fists, then use Chromatic Lantern to ensure you have all 5 colors.

[@derrickschroepfer9173]

This deck is pretty awesome. Great video!

[@cedricwestcott1852]

14 card sideboard 😢

[@LLmsn941]

playing Ugin and Nicol Bolas together is like a awkward family dinner

[@samfife4425]

I just wanted to say these thumbnails are always so good!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Our thumbnail guy is really good!

[@Ultrasuperbob]

The salt in that hallow one match

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, I almost edited it out. Darn Burning Inquiry!

[@lorddcee]

@@MTGGoldfish Why not put in the nature's claim in this matchup? Great against hollow one, great also to gain 4 life!

[@SweetShadowBehind]

@@MTGGoldfish A wise man once said: "Better lucky than good." -PleasantKenobi every 5 minutes

[@mpepp9]

MTGGoldfish Nothing wrong with getting annoyed when your opponent gets everything perfectly

[@bencouch1178]

21:20 was a misplay. If Seth had swung with prime time he could have gotten 2 untapped lands and spaghetti monstered.

[@reidr7288]

Bolas could wipe out half of the gatewatch with a *snap* of the fingers

[@Battleguild]

Hour of Devastation easily proved that to be true. He was literally playing with the Gatewatch. WotC unfortunately didn't want to kill off a walker... A Gatewatch member should have died there, maybe Nissa, since she GTFO'd of the storyline at the beginning of Dominaria. They were replacing her with Vivien anyway...

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

Aether Veilborne - Nah. Bolas is too proud to kill them. He could have killed each and every one of them, and clearly demonstrated his ability to do so.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Just wait until the last Ravnica set. It's going to be Bolas time all over again.

[@BobardeZanzibar]

@@Battleguild They did kill off a Walker.

[@Battleguild]

@@BobardeZanzibar Not during Hour of Devastation in of itself. Every walker in that story arc survived. They killed off several unnamed Planeswalkers during War of the Spark, with the only two notable walkers being Dack and Gideon. Yet Dack dying was a total accident, only the crew who was making the trailer knew he was dying due to locked communications between departments. The next named Walker to die after that was Jaya, which was like 3 years later. (2019 to 2022) Yet she might come back due to Teferi and his time shenanigans. Ajani and Tamio are compleated but aren't technically dead yet. Elspeth was always suspected to come back due to how Theros's Underworld works, so her coming back was never a surprise. Gideon has a possibility of coming back due to the effects of the Black Blade, but that has yet to be seen.

[@Tvtyrant2]

I've got a fist for you, Sun.

[@thatoneguy1991able]

4:00 4:00 4:00

[@FrostyListens]

Tyvm for the timestamps in the description.

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

*timesnaps

[@MTGGoldfish]

They should be there every video! (Also, a cheat is that the ads line up with the matches).

[@274pacific]

am I an old for wanting "Golgari Midrange" (match 1) to just be called "Rock"?

[@xunxekri]

I like how he always says "protecc your decc."

[@petefry82]

I love decks like this! Abusive brew!

[@Borkybaby]

MTGO = thumbs up

[@MTGGoldfish]

I like Modern too much to stop!

[@Borkybaby]

That’s legit. I love watching you play modern. Also, you’re the only one who gets mad that ancient stirrings is legal. And ponder isn’t lol. I’m just trying to draw some cards and counter everything. Opponent replies: “ turn 2 thought knot”. I’m writing bad engrrish right now. Too early in utah 🤣🤣🤣

[@robspear03]

Agreed. Arena=Thumbs down. Hard to watch. Childish to play. Standard is not always good.

[@Liberatt]

The game at 1:03 against Grishoalbrand, i was singing the Kenobi tune all along '' Keep stoneforge mystic banned, mo dern''

[@Noobintosh]

I think this is a missed opportunity for "pentacolored fisting". 10/10 would have named it like that.

[@HughManatea]

You Did not even use a Trojan. you just went durexly into the fisting. What a video.

[@he8mybbybakribs407]

Built something along these lines, using jodah and fist of suns, casting Omniscience emptying my hand and casting Kozi to refill my hand, then craterhoof behemoth for lethal, chromatic lantern is perfect

[@PerhapsOOTMM]

Not the video we needed; but the one we deserved...

[@Atmapalazzo]

I don't think we were that bad for christmas

[@Vininn126]

Weird, I saw the drawn title image on mobile for the video image (the one before you click on it) but not on web

[@Duratan6]

Good play :)

[@greyelwyn2711]

Love. This deck.

[@benrossy2k]

Seth = Thanos

[@darkgenesis611]

I built a similar deck 6 months ago but went full on through the breach as the backup plan. Also, I used trophy mage to tutor up fist. This also allowed me to use swords in the sideboard as another way to win.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Ohh, Trophy Mage is spicy!

[@darkgenesis611]

@@MTGGoldfish What was even spicier was using Reason//Believe as another way to cheat Emmy into play.

[@char6547]

Wow you got out skilled so much.

[@Midnightv]

All these Thanos puns. Made it all worthwhile. I want you to start using more tibalt thumbs if you can though

[@mastermacdaddy1401]

Why in match 2 when you had the two overgrown tomb and 3 utopia sprawls out you made one of the utopia sprawl give green mana? You whould have had all 5 colors if you made it white right?

[@bryanmanuelhernandez4078]

Let's go! 5-0, calling it now!

[@matthiasbond4293]

That's a shame you didn't call 2-3 cause I think it would have been a better result had he not had the back luck he got

[@bryanmanuelhernandez4078]

Matthias Bond Yeah the downside of playing jank, sometimes your draws are the worst.

[@vibinivan52]

Oh Snap!

[@GaryFromLiberty]

only a 14 card sideboard? Did something not import right into mtgo (Wear // Tear? I know double cards don't always import right)?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Hmm, yeah, it was likely a split card that messed things up.

[@theflintabletc]

Omg, that match 5 was fucking brutal

[@GOUZU7910]

Wait this deck HAHAHAHA LOVE YOU SETH

[@iangorton3375]

Am I missing something? @21:34 couldn't he attack with Primeval Titan, get 2 lands, and cast fists + Emrical that turn?

[@nomatyx5789]

Prime Time's lands come into play tapped.

[@iangorton3375]

@@nomatyx5789 ah gotcha. thank you

[@imasiontist653]

Yeah i thought that at first too.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Maybe we should have Amulet of Vigor! (Probably not, but it would have worked well there).

[@jasontomes6787]

I have a fist of the suns deck that uses bringer of the black dawn to tutor and bringer of the white dawn for artifact recursion. My payoff is progenitus because it is a lot more of a casual group

[@benderisgreat95able]

Devastating Summons with Pact of the Titan and the 8 whacks built in?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Mmm, sounds sweet!

[@TripsAhoy]

Damn spicy!!!

[@colgatelampinen2501]

Why Griselbrand is not in deck?

[@stalkerstomper3304]

Seth, you missed putting 5 counters on Prism thru casting it with Fist of Suns! How did you miss that buddy?

[@Wibblywobbly03-o7]

I HAVE USED THIS CARD IN SO MUCH JANK YEEEEEEESSSSS!!!

[@lionkingmatiouz3441]

That random Liliana + 2 goyfs VS Ugin + 2 arbor elves Epic...

[@Hanmacx]

Thran Gateway in Standard? I did a Abzan Saga fall with it

[@kieranbrown7181]

I freaking loved the original card that greyed out the WUBRG.

[@williamstocker8107]

Why are the thumbnails so amazing?

[@Kazumaplaysgames]

21:18 attack with primeval titan, get 2 lands, cast fist of suns, cast emrakul, extra turn, win? You didn't have to give him a chance at somehow coming back I think.

[@TheMegaNattoMan]

How do you recommend/ suggest possible brews for this channel?

[@MTGGoldfish]

You can leave a link, or email me at [e-mail]!

[@dimak134]

Funny Question: If you cast Pentad Prism with the Fist of Suns, will it come to play with 5 counters?

[@MTGGoldfish]

I believe the answer is yes!

[@klaus1352]

It's seems like the past couple weeks have had a lot of big Mana decks. I love them and all, but I've kinda had enough for a while. after the various omniscience and jodah decks I'm a bit worn out

[@zotha]

I find it quite hilarious with how much Seth whines about Tron that he has been playing basically jank Tron decks constantly in all formats for years.

[@gabrieltwinwithulm7466]

@zotha oh my god you're right hahaha

[@MTGGoldfish]

Don't worry, I think the big mana decks are our of my system for a while. We've got a lot of combo coming up in the next week or so.

[@x3mskbord]

technically speaking, ramp fits under the larger "combo deck" umbrella. so saying we've got combo coming up doesn't necessarily mean it's not ramp lol

[@stalkerstomper3304]

Seth, you missed putting 5 counters on Prism thru casting it with Fist of Suns! How did you miss that buddy?

[@Th3Bazval]

Why not Chromatic Lanterns over Pentad Prisms? makes mana fixing soooo much easier.

[@ericyoumans2670]

Seth could beat Thanos with this deck

[@andrewsigrist9981]

Couldnt you have won at 21:20 by swinging with the Titan and fetching out two lands?

[@MTGGoldfish]

The lands come into play tapped :(

[@andrewsigrist9981]

Wow I guess I watched far too much amulet bloom back in the day

[@kaszael]

Wouldn't Prismatic Omen be good in fixing?

[@MTGGoldfish]

It would fix our mana, but it doesn't really do much to support the combo, so I don't think it's really worthwhile for this deck.

[@luke53285]

one of my favorite parts of the hollow one deck is the math that is involved in it. It balances the "randomness" of the draw/discard sources with free discard payoffs. the way you kinda shit on it the entire time saying they were just lucky is not only false, it's just super salty.

[@tomjackal5708]

38:30 your opponent stone rained two utopia sprawls with cryptic and I don't think you even noticed, even when you were doing fist of suns math and realized you no longer had the colors you honestly think they would bounce an unecnhanted forest rather than hold up a counter? ok cool you covered it in the wrapup but it _totally_ seemed like you hadn't noticed in real time

[@GoblinmasterYT]

Seth I saw you playing cheerios frenzy legacy the other day and you went 1-4, sorry to hear that

[@derrickschroepfer9173]

I'd sneak in a Hornet Queen for the sideboard, oh heck, id put it in the main

[@nickbrokeit9688]

Dread it. Run from it

[@FlourescentPotato]

the fetched lands and utopia sprawl colour choices are really off here, losses to colour screw are no surprise

[@benwix9099]

Haven’t you just made a bad version of through the breach? Great video though!

[@MTGGoldfish]

We're on a cheating Emrakul into play in weird ways kick. Don't worry, next week's we doing something very different :)

[@BentTimeAndSpace]

Why do people keep saying “sir-um” visions?

[@juanjoseguaringarcia2500]

"Something degenerated is about to happen..."

[@alexkirner5266]

Seth you didn’t say PROOOOOOOOBA LY, you just said probably

[@dalemackenzie4320]

""" … go down stuff that dies to Assassin's trophy That is kind of a weakness of... of Fist of Suns … And also Thran's Temporal Gateway """ That tends to happen when the card literally destroys anything in play xD

[@Drew_2308]

All these assassin's trophy and lightning bolt decks and you never once bring in spellskite, what's it for then?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Maybe it's worth bringing in against Jund, they just have so much removal that it's hard to make it good.

[@Drew_2308]

@@MTGGoldfish I feel like that's the point of it though is to tax their removal. They can't kill everything and maybe it protects you from a key spell at a key moment.

[@jacobfloth1286]

14:10 "fisting the suns" rofl

[@MD-ef4ot]

The World Tree with this after 6 lands in play and cast anything with 5 lands

[@JV-lq3tx]

This deck could use Channel the Suns and Prismatic Omen.

[@TalesOfDylan]

I know Griselbrand is fine because it's not consistent but man that should not be possible to win on turn 2 at the very least not in Modern.

[@Jigsawtwig]

Modern is in a rough spot right now. Midrange is kind of slipping and gold fish degenerate decks are on the rise. The degenerate decks keep getting better and WotC is afraid to print good removal. Unfortunately trophy isn't as good as some people were hoping. I kind of hope they either ban stirrings/looting or unban SFM just to shake up the format. GBx midrange slogs can be time consuming but they also have a lot more player agency than the annoying sideboard fiesta that is modern rn.

[@henning_3255]

Seth on the Dark Side again. Not Tron but Ancient Stirrings...

[@Diotialate]

33:45 "Sometimes we kill people. Sometimes they just die. They just die." - Saffronolive 2018 o_o

[@henning_3255]

@@Diotialate He was supposed to be chosen one. He was supposed to destroy the OPs, not join them. He was supposed to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.

[@zotha]

Hour and 14 minutes solid talking about fisting, Seth really does want to get his stuff demonetized

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

thran gateway is siiiick yaaahhh

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

but if you're gonna side in through the breach in every matchup what's the point of all this really? just remove through the breach and swap in cards that protect your fist of suns, or just play a through the breach deck. or really just some general purpose disruption might help. counters especially since they deal with most forms of disruption, not just artifact removal. the only thing it doesn't really help with is discard, but you're screwed even worse with through the breach. i guess those could be reanimation cards but black has access to so much graveyard disruption

[@TheBonkers45]

14 card sb?

[@CryTyped]

FISTING THE SUNS

[@CryTyped]

DEMONITIZED

[@stephenhousman6975]

Against ur control you shouldn't have played utopia the 2nd time you would have still had the mana to cast emmy the following turn.

[@Jigsawtwig]

God that first game. Feels GBx, man. It's a hard time to play midrange.

[@zach_attack2324]

Why on joada?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Jodah's a bit fragile, but it could be a fun backup version of Fist of Suns.

[@Cowter4]

Did you really just say “fisting the suns”😂😂😂

[@MTGGoldfish]

Regrettably, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

[@UncTypeShit]

Thanos Glove in Modern.

[@IntegralKing]

What did DizzyTurtle say to you?

[@Drew_2308]

3 minutes into the video and all I'm hoping is we don't encounter too many assassin's trophies or abrupt decay.

[@zakbraverman]

Gotta admit I'm glad the 5-color combo deck isn't all that great.

[@MTGGoldfish]

When it's good it's really good, but when it's bad...

[@Midnightv]

Literally Thanos Tron

[@jameswilson4328]

This league was very modern, Seth brings a brew with "unfair" win condition, beats the two fair decks, loses to three faster "unfair" decks...starting to see why people are worried about modern.

[@oliviergermain3106]

We are fistin suns... Is it me or that sounded weird

[@lifeiaskedfor]

"we can't tick down ugin cause we lose all our mana" dude you have an ugin! Why do you care? You very much in a position where you can just tick down take their only threat and just finish the game

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah. I think the worry is Assassin's Trophy. If we tick down and then they draw a removal spell for Ugin it's really, really hard for us to recover.

[@lifeiaskedfor]

yea and they did eventually drew it but it ended up not mattering

[@roygrossmann2652]

The game three again the blue moon list was against another streamer

[@MTGGoldfish]

Ohh, is there a video somewhere? I'd love to see the other side!

[@luke53285]

fist em good seth

[@whoiswho9890]

You mean "baby Emrakul"

[@ianman222001]

get wrecked by griselcannon :D

[@Vosspatha]

Fisting the suns

[@benjaminhillware1293]

So magic has an infinity gauntlet huh?