If Everybody Plays a Must Kill Commander... | Commander Clash S16 E16

[@Tangart88]

prompt: play a commander to kill on sight Phil: so same as usual

[@laytonjr6601]

Phil played the most kill on sight permanents despite never casting his commander (game 1)

[@maaikevreugdemaker9210]

I read it in his voice lol

[@discoviolenza1984]

Should change the title of the video to "Everyone but Crim Played Must Kill Commander's".

[@jeffreylong1478]

Kaervek never gets the respect he deserves lol

[@ironmalachi]

(before watching video) Crim took it as a challenge and must kill every commander lol

[@Cheerwine091]

Crim either is the only one to follow the prompt or the only one to not follow the prompt

[@zweis]

I like how he could have just played K'rrik as his Commander but he decided to have some fun

[@juliolabra2]

The Son of Yawg Daddy doesn't stand a chance against Kaervek

[@rennysama9752]

Seth keeping his word is an absolute win in my book

[@davidlockhart9392]

I appreciate Seth keeping his word

[@JohnGarner-j5e]

Kill on sight commander game and crim sits with his commander out for 6 turns and no one caring at all......

[@wingusdingus1019]

This comment says everything lmao

[@frankomancer]

almost like Crim straight-up didnt follow the guidelines just to try and be an unfunny troll

[@igorkollar6674]

The Ratadrabik / Boromir loop doesnt pump Yoshimaru. The token enters battlefield as a non-legendary creature and then becomes legendary, so zero legendary permanents enter battlefield, that means no +1/+1 counters for Yoshi.

[@Alkhemia8]

yeah he still has infinite Boromir tokens so it was still game just not in the same way

[@zacharywilliams3597]

@@Alkhemia8but don’t they sacrifice themselves to continue looping? Pretty sure it’s just Infinite ETB, LTB, death & sacrifice triggers. Was something else on board providing value on those without the legendary ETB?

[@hellNo116]

Yes Annie joins up double Raha something trigger so each time he went through the loop he got one extra boromir

[@kaiber0390]

​​@@zacharywilliams3597Annie joins up doubles so he gets a net positive 1 boromir token.

[@Krikenemp18]

Came here to say this. Still a cool loop with I'm sure tons of other ways to abuse it though! Love Ratadrabik.

[@aryst0krat]

That double cascade was incredible. The whiff to end all whiffs.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

I had worse

[@doodlehumper3529]

On today’s episode Richard plays a healthy amount of basics

[@cloudroth6]

Its because he is in mono red which lets him play Glacial Crevasses, So having Snow Covered Basic mountains let him have fogs

[@alexroel123]

I love you Crim but when people are playing Myriim, Jodah, Krenko i really expected something more

[@Botanick13]

I think Crim got pissed enough to bring all the ramp/draw/land hate he can find next time :D

[@ElDocBruh]

Phil cascading into one and a half spells he can't cast 🤣 Rough!

[@Awesomesausages]

36:43 Open the Way is really good, yes, but it's two Red dragons and a colourless golem that are generating extra combats for 1 Mana a pop. Lands are good yeah but the amount of Treasure generation is outta control. I do really appreciate Seth keeping his word there :)

[@ErasMcras]

wait so you're telling me phil and seth are on value crim's on a control pile, and richard's playing a combo deck? perfect never change

[@homebrewed]

Richard not knowing how a "Red" land works is the most Richard thing i've seen in a while...love it!

[@MrGeoghagan]

One of these commanders is not like the others

[@WhaleLord1333]

Richard just casually dunking on my favorite Nature's Lore art broke my heart

[@owlaboutme]

i swear ive watched like 5 random commander clashes and richard has played a surveyor's scope every single time

[@Bathios13579]

as long as he isn't playing green he plays it, because the odds of him being behind on lands at some point is very likely.

[@crawdaddy2004]

Wait, I don’t think Yoshi would have gotten infinitely large. The crew BECOMES legendary as part of the Ring Tempting you.

[@aurabullet4128]

It was s miss play.

[@ImpossibilitySpace]

I mean, a little more than a misplay.

[@laurencepritchard6171]

He still had infinite non-legendary boromir zombies, so I don't think it changes the outcome of the game

[@jhonea6535]

Each one sacrifices to the loop

[@crawdaddy2004]

@@jhonea6535 Roaming Throne

[@brycemattson4913]

Crim blaming green for that first game is pretty funny since the red dragon is what made 20+ treasures

[@zachbechtel2101]

As someone who doesn't really like webcam gameplay you guys have become my favorite commander gameplay channel

[@thatepicwizardguy]

chirurgeon is in fact an old timey way of saying surgeon EDIT: that black deck was the only super fair one. goblins is classic levels of powerful which actually makes it just weak compared to jodah rofl

[@zym6687]

From the times before when mtg was fantasy not science fiction

[@ConiugatioPeriphrast]

@@zym6687you mean before urzas block? You know, the block with mechs and lasers.

[@zym6687]

@@ConiugatioPeriphrast Yes

[@zym6687]

@@ConiugatioPeriphrast "Science fiction, at is core, is about exploring what if. It’s literature investigating humanity’s potential. Fantasy, at its core, is about morality. It’s exploring the internal struggle of good and evil within humanity. Magic is a what if tale. Star Wars if a morality tale. Each though dresses itself up in the genre trappings of the other." Mark Rosewater from his November 18, 2012 Blogatog, in response to being asked: "You keep mentioning that Magic is a "science fiction story set in a fantasy setting" while Star Wars is the opposite. Could you explain that?"

[@ConiugatioPeriphrast]

@@zym6687 If you accept that magic has been that way for a long time, we're fine. There were quite a few people up in arms about neo kamigawa turning magic away from fantasy. Ravnica still is a lot younger than urza's block though, so I really do not understand what you are trying to say here.

[@Mattrekie]

Glad to see Phil actually get to pop off for a change rather than get beaten into the ground mercilessly. And good on Seth for being a man of his word thats playing both smart and good. But Crim better be a man of his word as well, I want to see him successfully hose them. Why you ask if i like to see Phil pop off? Because variety is the spice of life. Richard wins too much any week he loses is a good one! (Until he stops winning so often...if that happens ill stsrt being in his corner. But its been years of clash and ive yet to see it)

[@ThexSlothxKing]

Was it seth cracking twelve treasures? Nah it had to be the ramp.

[@MrGeoghagan]

Yeah it's just objectively wrong pointing to Open the Way and not the treasure as the reason for Seth's insane mana

[@zweis]

​@@MrGeoghaganYou're just objectively wrong. The way Seth won is irrelevant, he had a billion ways to win the game with the absurd amount of mana Open the Way gave him. Hellkite giving him treasures was just overkill. It's like blaming Omniscience into Peer into thr Abyss when in reality the Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Mox Diamond, and Chrome Mox were the reason it got cast on turn 2.

[@frosty980]

@@zweisI don’t think Seth went below 4 open mana at any point though which is how many lands the open net anyway, the dragon did a lot of work

[@zweis]

@@frosty980 You're correct, on the turn he could have won (but didn't because he promised Crim) he did not need the extra lands. The turns before that are a different story

[@MrGeoghagan]

@@zweis Please watch the game again and explain to me how I am objectively wrong. Open the Way was played extremely late to the point where the mana being generated from Cavern-Hoard Dragon + Roaming Throne was already sufficient for Seth to close the game. Open the Way was just the cherry on top. You can do the math and see he had enough mana to win the game without Open the Way. Land for turn + all the treasures he made left him with enough mana to do what he needed. I'm not saying Open the Way isn't a good card, but that isn't what won Seth the game.

[@siri7005]

I much appreciate the improved Clash On!-game!

[@mhchump55]

There should be a video where they all get 10 to 15 card side board, build the decks and side boards. Then look at the list of all players main decks and then use the side boards to metagame against them before they play

[@MateoByrd-kg9rf]

Yeah I think what happens is half the guys are preboarded and the other half aren’t so having it done intentionally would be cool, especially hearing their thought process on tech etc.

[@stevenguitink5947]

Just a heads up: The Surveyor's Scope exiles itself as part of its activation.

[@AndrewRingle]

An exercise in "how much less threatening does crim have to be before they kill someone else first"

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

Crim is a terrible son, telling his Father not to take him to Denny's Edit : Someone needs to just build a Jodah deck of 40 Decent Lands and 59 Random Legendary Creatures and see if it is still absurdly powerful.

[@Spirited_skiing]

It is

[@andrewtomy2794]

I have something like you're suggesting, but Mayael and a pool to pull random 5+ power creatures from. A Jodah legends version sounds like such a fun, dumb project!

[@damnjekyll]

Underrated Denny's shout out. 💯 🥞

[@holstenmason]

I pulled a jodah and tossed a bunch of my random rare and uncommon legends in there and i have stopped playing it against my friends because it is undefeated

[@jaka6584]

I run basic lands and it’s still pretty bad

[@thatonedudejake]

K'rrik was Crim's kill on sight commander all along

[@another505]

Seth was definitely a bigger threat than phil when phil died. He has roaming throne, ramped hard, great henge, powerful creatures, and plenty of life

[@herrerabeast]

Great episode. Even though that second game was so lopsided it was really entertaining. There are times when someone straight up dominates and it’s still a good watch.

[@terryjohnson8261]

Phil: "Crim, I want to kill Seth." Seth: "Crim he'll just kill me and then win. kill him". Crim kills Phil. Seth wins 2 turns later. SMH our boy Phil needs to up his politic game. Even if it's a lie, at least say "I want to kill Seth, then I can die."

[@japplek]

Crim played straight into seth's hands and Phil didn't say anything. It's really very awkward to watch because it frequently comes across as a cross-cultural thing. Phil waits politely while the others talk loudly over each other.

[@zeonacepilot3420]

@@japplek phil just looked salty and sweaty. but k lol

[@CouchtrollPodcastDS]

Crim missed the memo lol. Cool deck but not like the other decks.

[@fredt1983]

Hasn't everybody had that moment seeing Jodah for the first time and thinking "Stupid alchemy cards...." then slowly realizing "Wait a minute..... Are you serious?!" Much like Sheoldred or Mirror-breaker...

[@japplek]

Such an awful card. So proud of Phil never actually playing it. Tragedy that as usual he got ganged up on while the usual table politics took over.

[@ich3730]

What does power have to do with the alchemy format? Jodah obviously works fine in paper, same with sheoldred and fable.

[@Godzilladoom2]

You guys linked the outlaws commander article on accident.

[@rockerknight25]

"I would have gained 69,000 health but Yoshi has 69,000 power so it wouldn't have mattered." Well that was a sentence.

[@cashcolin1537]

lol Phil is so calm for always being the threat.

[@XxMechaxWolfxX]

3:04 Crim that is the entire reason I opened this video. Show me that this guy is as scary as the rest of the table

[@XxMechaxWolfxX]

Interesting, this givin me some ideas fr

[@mrsilverbutton7786]

I'd love to see a theme be 60 card format decks turned into 100. Affinity, Elves, Bard Class, Nykthos, Tron - just to make a few. Great games!

[@madisonking8057]

Man, I swear Phil is always doing the coolest stuff and they always kill him first

[@Digitanimal]

Yay finally get to see Kaervek in action.

[@nickbenstead7285]

That darkness sent me

[@Synergesus]

51:45 I spent ten minutes trying to find somewhere to buy that APAC promo Dragon Tempest before I realized that Seth just has a proxy. The promo comes out with Duskmourn APAC league Q4 qualifiers.

[@DuneEcho]

Chirurgeon is defined by the dictionary as "A surgeon," so Seth is correct.

[@andrewdeshazer4423]

Every Commander game they play is "Kill Phil" 😂

[@FenristheWhiteWolf]

Crim’s deck looks sick and a log of fin to sit and pilot. Looking forward to seeing how tour decks develop for commander flash Crim with all the ramp going on in this meta

[@jakebswenka]

Yay, for once a game without Richard playing Field of the dead or glacial chasm!!! Keep it up Richard!!

[@Something_Sharp]

They just added those two cards to their house ban list

[@TheJakeL152]

chirurgeon is the old english word for doctor or surgeon, and its where we get the modern word surgeon. The word is a combination of the greek words for hand and work, so its basically a doctor that works with their hands.

[@jjf414]

Hey, something changed with the overhead view? Looks good! And thanks for the proper Clash on, friends 😅

[@totakekeslider3835]

Seth with my best girl, Miirym? That's a match made in heaven. All she needs is a cowboy hat! ~Spoilers~ Edit: Ooooh, and it even got Crim to be super salty with green things AND win with a Cyclonic Rift for Richard. Absolute perfection.

[@famousstranger8468]

I won on turn 5 with miirym last weekend it was amazing

[@ChicknNugts]

That maelstrom wanderer cast 🤕

[@mightyone3737]

Supposedly chirurgeon is interchangeable with surgeon, but has Greek roots, whereas surgeon is an English pidgin word (if we're being technical) that evolved from chirurgeon. I feel like this would be a fair pod for my Pavel deck, or maybe my Anax and Cymede deck, both run an ungodly number of wipes, and Pavel runs an ungodly amount of removal on top of it. I love to playtest my Pavel deck vs some pretty scary decks, as long as they are creature dependent they can be in for a very rough surprise. I just realized you can do the Zelda 'you got the thing' with Open the Way, it's the same number of syllables. Crazy coincidence, because often those tools opened the way for Link.

[@ghoulofmetal]

I realized today that i just use these videos as podcasts while gaming when i realized the screen had been frozen for like 30 minutes and i hadnt realized xD

[@Dalenthas]

Chiurgeon is an archaic form of surgeon. I do believe the correct pronunciation is "chur-jun" rhyming with surgeon, but I could be mistaken.

[@shundo8460]

As much as I like Phil playing commander with him seems exhausting lol. Every single game he’s out of control by turn 4 like buddy chilllll

[@Father-songaming]

Phil calling Crim the worst had me laughing so hard!

[@VivBrodock]

oh I know Chirurgeon, first of all, it's a hard ch like in chameleon, and yes it's an archaic word that means surgeon, from Middle English in the 13th century, entered English by way of the Anglo-French word cirurgien

[@chips8623]

It's Goblin Kye-ur-geon, it's not a magic word. it's an old european word for a kind of healer, kinda a cross between a first responder and surgeon.

[@hugelegolas5008]

The fact that The Master, Multiplied wasn't picked blows my mind

[@BBreal818]

Seth should have been the first one out by YOUR own standards! He ramped like crazy and was sitting in the lead and kept pointing the aggro at Phil. Albeit Phil does build insane decks.

[@DoGGyPlays]

Jodah dying first is a disgrace. But then proceeded to dominate as he should in the second game. I am happy

[@MeldrickCz]

So Seth played Cyclonic and then won...so Richard any thoughts? That counts does it?

[@tastypaste]

Them not knowing what a Chirurgeon is or how to pronounce it is killing me.

[@smarzu6872]

Kaervek might have been confused with k'rrik at some point during the deckbulding stage. Crim gets the pass tho, he kills every commander on sight, so i can see why the mistake happened.

[@admanios]

27:55 "I could try to throw the dog..." Hey. HEY. The Final Fantasy set doesn't come out until NEXT year.

[@ashtonwestfall4777]

I think for future game twos turn order should be the order you died in

[@Bejorgie6]

Richard clearly hasn't seen the legacy meta if he thinks goblins are out (but is 100% correct if he meant they don't play lackey anymore)

[@PalPlays]

Vannifar strikes me as the de facto "kill on sight" commander.

[@pablogarin]

I don't get Richard: he had the combo kill on game 1 with the goblin recruiter -> torch courier, conspicuous snoop, kiki-jiki and mogg fanatic and GG. He could've passed the top with a couple extra goblins for the mill JIC

[@pascalgmtg3412]

Crim could've killed Seth in addition to Phil on the Tendrils turn, probably slightly short of killing all 3 of his opponents. The tendrils gains back some life, so you can hex parasite a bunch to give lifelink and menace to all the attackers (krrik + kaervek + miner). This gets Seth low and gains back a bunch of life so you can once again Hex Parasite to recur the Tendrils and finish off Seth + lower Richard. Probably not enough life in between to also cast the Imps Mischief and Outrageous Robbery purely for storm count, but definitely enough to kill Seth.

[@colebengston3963]

Very excited for the mono black deck, i have him and want to build something from him.

[@serafinochoa3136]

Seth, where did you get that 2024 Dragon Tempest Promo? I thought that card would not be released until later in the year.

[@TsubasaVotora]

“Must kill commander” You mean, like, 98% of the commanders in magic?

[@WobblyWall97]

Crim about to go into his Villian saga after this game. He did not deserve any of that!

[@ebonezra8073]

Play a "must kill" commander. Crim: Tergrid? Nah, I don't want to be killed on sight.

[@s3aba55theFish]

I love Crim and his left field commanders and Phil is always playing salty commanders so its just another day for him. Very entertaining epsidoe. Well done guys 😂 also... that darkness though

[@grantpolley]

Does Richard even read his nonbasics before haphazardly slamming as many as he can into every deck?

[@ragefultheunbreakabl]

Yessssss two games! Thank you 🙏

[@julianalvarez4231]

Kaervek is good but not that GOOD

[@pureevil6047]

Crim takes so many more game actions but does so little.

[@LegoMyachi]

Commander clash convinced me to put open the way in my decks and yeah it’s absolutely bonkers

[@RedCometNurse]

Charismatic Conqueror is another good one. It doesnt get rid lf them, but it does make it hurt. Either those tokens enter tapped and are worthless or they are handing me a ton of lifelinking vampires.

[@alucarddelta6576]

What no green commanders with the hornet sting spell crimm xD

[@PwrlvlMTG]

A BANGER ON A FRIDAY TOO

[@person3176]

looks like people run the typical amount of removal despite what the episode is about lol. not a whole lot of interaction 😄

[@edh1785]

waau thx guys hell of a games today but Phill has the strongest commander against two mono coloured its kinda tricky i think only Miryim is compared in power level to Jodah credit to Crim and Richard with their decks

[@jeremyphillips3087]

Phil sounds like he's..... taking a lot of pleasure from his deck.

[@marcoaramburu9483]

This is so much better than mtgo

[@hanschristopherson8056]

So maybe because everyone is a problem phil won’t get eliminated first?

[@Suppaichu]

Kaervek seems like it need to jump some hoops, but it did start to feel like a yagwill at some point. With K'rrik (and i get it, the scary one is actually k'rrik at that point) if Crim could chain more crime and card advantage i can see a storm kill happening

[@jirasekr]

That katakuri sleeve hiddin on bottom Crim.. dont u left OP ?:D

[@ben_clifford]

0:31 Crim's deck name earned my like right out of the gate

[@ben_clifford]

Also, when I saw mono-black flash on screen, I expected Crim to be running Tergrid

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

fork and reverberate are totally underrated cards

[@TheDamianMichaels]

It's been a while since I've watched Commander Clash. When did this become a paper series?

[@notjarvis1413]

42:23 actually goblins are at the top of the legacy metagame

[@Badassest]

Those games were nuts!

[@Neofin]

Did I miss something at 24:17? How can Richard activate Krenko, when he just played it the turn before? Thought summoning sickness only ends when he starts his next turn.

[@Niuttuc]

Richard discarded Anger on turn 1, giving haste to all his creatures as long as he controls a mountain, and I don't think it was ever removed from the graveyard.

[@Neofin]

@@Niuttuc Ah, you are right, thanks!

[@highdark4]

I think Jodah only cascades on legendary spells cast from the hand, no? In other words, subsequent legendaries cast from cascade do not themselves cascade. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

[@TheTLProductions12]

It was double triggered due to annie joins up.

[@brandobie]

@ 59:08 did I miss something? Crim didn't have any manna floating to cast that and is all tapped out?

[@colyrne]

Crim floated mana in response to Phil tapping his lands down with Koma. It just happened very quickly at 57:00 so it was easy to miss. Crim also specified before moving to combat so the mana didn't empty

[@brandobie]

@@colyrne ah thanks for the clarification! Definitely missed that!

[@joachimmoulfi5165]

I guess it’s not a new question but it’s the first time I watch one of these shows, there are no fast mana ever ? No sol ring or mana crypt ?

[@obadijahparks]

Kaervek seems fun. I pulled five of him though.... I don't need that many of them.

[@AndrewRingle]

They should do an "all ramp I'd banned" werk just do Seth can play a different deck for once