RHODA S03E07 An Elephant Never Forgets

[@Vejur9000]

Classic Brenda episode. Love the chemistry Kavner and Harper always had. Like real sisters. Comedy icons.

[@davorawilliams4437]

Brenda looks fabulous! She finally got some new gear! Do it girl!

[@doowopdude84]

When Brenda makes her goal, the part where the lady waves her wig around gets me every time lol

[@nelsonhall4248]

I always liked Rhoda she's beautiful smart and not afraid to speak her own mind.

[@randilevson9547]

Rhoda and Brenda (Valerie Harper and Julie Kavner) were ALWAYS beautiful, inside and out, heavy or thin.

[@cami42874]

I just love Rhoda and Mary they were great and will be missed

[@g-girl9867]

That was one of the best episodes. I wasn’t expecting that ending. Kudos Brenda! “You’ve come a long way baby”, as they used to say in those days.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Wasn't that in a Virginia Slims cigarette commercial? 😊 when it was " cool" to smoke...

[@g-girl9867]

@@RepentfollowJesus yes!

[@deborahklinlger8565]

@RepentfollowJesus Yes, it was & ur correct .

[@thomasmagnum3588]

Just guessing Kavner submitted this episode for her annual Emmy nomination . She was absolutely brilliant in that last scene.

[@Landshark2020]

RIP Valerie Harper❤️

[@bleuskye8124]

Love Ron Silver. He was so great in this role of Gary.

[@MIKIEEYEZ1975]

He was an excellent Actor!!

[@EphemeralProductions]

One his best roles! But he has been good in everything I’ve seen him in :)

[@annegreenwood3624]

i loved that jumpsuit it looked amazing another great video

[@themaggattack]

I'm so proud of Brenda for keeping that fat shaming, shallow jerk away from her! It's nice to see her love herself a little.

[@lovingmayberry307]

Brenda is and was ADORABLE. And that guy was not all that.

[@michaelmitchell5098]

Amen

[@annegreenwood3624]

such talent

[@MelodyLovesMusic]

Totally agree

[@sammavacaist]

Julie Kavner started out on this show pretty pudgy but she lost a lot of weight by this season. Supposedly she's still an avid fitness buff to this day.

[@eleanorryanryan2442]

Brings me back to when I used to go to these classes and dreaded getting up on the scales 😀🇮🇪💚

[@Vejur9000]

Julie was Emmy worthy here.

[@KatieLL]

The last scene...good for Brenda!

[@davidmusicmaker]

Exceptional episode. This is one to watch back-to-back with The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "Rhoda the Beautiful." Very similar episode.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

I just loved when Rhoda said " I won, Cookie"!

[@davidmusicmaker]

@@RepentfollowJesus , that was a wonderful moment!

[@StrongnBeautiful]

Brenda is such a cutie, and sweetie 💞 I would have loved to be her friend, so long as she could control her toxic self depreciation.

[@prettyhamburger6462]

Yeah that's something that makes me sad about the show, I feel like if i watch this often this toxic stuff might slowly leach into my mind:(but i dont want to quit watching because i love this show so much🥺

[@irmelinhart]

You're right about that with Brenda's character it's so sad because she was so lovely and really really cute.

[@themaggattack]

People were absolutely cruel to fat people in the 70's. And very objectifying of women. It had her really believing she was unworthy. I'm so proud of her in this episode for being true to herself and not settling for someone shallow who would treat her like crap if she gained a little weight!!

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Brenda just needed more support from friends. I would have built her up.instead of rejecting her for being down on herself.

[@jeanmiller1142]

People are not kind to the thin small breasted girls either. I was told that if I turn sideways and stuck out my tongue I look like a zipper. Either way it didn't seem a girl could win if you weren't what was considered picture perfect

[@Lilacsinm]

I never understood this weird, ongoing thing where Brenda is considered to be fat and unattractive when in fact, she's thin and beautiful.

[@mariabell5613]

I agree. Earlier episodes they always put her in sloppy baggy clothes but she never looked fat.

[@peggysullivan5396]

For back then it was considered overweight - not like now I’m sure it was just for story

[@peggysullivan5396]

If they only knew about keto back then lol

[@firouz4296]

She was gorgeous but on this show she had worst problems: Dressed like a man in women's clothes, that harsh blush and the horrible hair! The seventies femininity completely passed her on this show!

[@joeyjohnson5552]

You have to understand that Brenda and Rhoda used to be much heavier, and this kind of stigma does not ever really leave most women. There is so much pressure on women to be thin and beautiful in society, and when not then, a woman almost always does not feel beautiful, true or not.

[@alondralabute2310]

What a lowlife that guy was! Assuming he weighed 200 lbs (and he probably doesn't) to say he couldn't ride the elevator with Brenda is to accuse her of weighing 700 lbs for the 900 lb limit. I doubt she's ever weighed 200 lbs even. This guy deserves a kick in the butt.

[@johnfd0210]

I know it is a comedy, but didn't really think that line should have gotten a laugh. She is such a good actress, I really felt her pain at that moment.

[@lisapratt166]

Alondra Labute men are always portrayed as being RIGHT even if their not. Chauvinism at its grosser finest

[@gayled3059]

@@johnfd0210 The laugh was probably canned, but I felt her pain too.

[@JudithIrene]

Way to go, Brenda!!! :)

[@biancacastafiore383]

Brenda and Rhoda are so obsessed with their weight. They are so normal sized.

[@emilyedwards9809]

Another jerk, as usual. Good for Brenda for sending him on his way.

[@zimjun7]

Eric JERKenson.....ha?

[@deborahklinlger8565]

Years ago I dated a man who told me to lose weight & I wasn't overweight. I was very happy with my shape & appearance. So I told him to take a hike. Men!!!! Brenda looked fabulous in that bkack jumpsuit. Great episode!!! Love Rhoda. I love the Boho look.🎉❤😊

[@thestones8022]

The counselor at the weight loss meetings was Gloria Lubitz from Laverne and Shirley's Annual Schotz Talent contest...

[@fintan3563]

I thought I could never live without bell bottoms. That was a l-o-n-g time ago!

[@elle5374]

I noticed the other day. It looks like bell bottoms are back cause I seen them at Old Navy. They call them flares.

[@jeanmiller1142]

Remember in the beginning episodes I always had Brenda in what were called " elephant pants" at the time. I'm sure they used them to make her look heavier than she actually was. Surely she was not a skinny girl and not really Slim either but she does not have a small frame.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

@@jeanmiller1142 we had elephant bells in the 70s. Mens Levi's. We would have our aunt sew them snug to just above the knee then leave the big bell . Brenda often wore palazzo pants which are in style now. But I'm too short for them. However bells are back !!

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Oh I though I would die when they stopped making bell bottoms and forced straight legs on us. I felt like I was wearing 1950s pants. I hated it. Bells are back now. Hubby and I each bought flares but we also each got a pair of actual bell bottoms. He has long hair too and wore a 70s shirt with his bells and ran in the grocery store. Everyone was speaking to him and calling him one of the Real hippies. It was great. I didn't go.in but he told me. I need to wear mine out somewhere now. We have the glare arms in shirts and the lacy and crocheted tops to wear over tanks now too. Im loving it. Now to find a couple of decent bandanas or scarfs to tie like Rhoda does. Let's make it a come back. Somebody has to start it! I even bought a pair of ripped up white jeans. Im 59, but who cares? I was an original baby hippie at the end of it all.😊🌼

[@RepentfollowJesus]

@@elle5374 im thrilled!!! I bought a pair and so did hubby!!

[@RuiOliveiraTV]

Finally Brenda fells good about herself!!

[@cathe8282]

I never understood the fat jokes on this show. How even in S1 she could have been considered fat! I was a kid growing up in the 70s and women like Mary, Rhoda and Brenda were who I thought hip, liberated, enlightened women were supposed to be. But having a weight problem and a mother with a weight problem, I was super sensitive to all the times people laughed at Brenda's self-esteem and "weight problems". Thinking, as a kid, "well, if the world thinks of HER as fat, what hope do I have?" I'm glad things like that aren't in writers' notebooks for quick and cheap laughs anymore, but still... Also, I have always loved the sister dynamic between Rho and Bren! Great series!

[@johnfd0210]

The woman with the wig...I knew I knew that face...she is one of the "Fun Girls" from a memorable episode of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW.

[@valeriebryant5277]

That's her (Daphne)

[@wg8385]

WHAT??? Which one was she ? I enjoyed that show so much.

[@trawlins396]

@@wg8385 Daphne. The silly one.

[@sheriannemorris351]

She actually played the character of Skippy, on the Andy Griffith Show 😀

[@taylor1522]

Her apartment was some of everything. I love it.

[@bsmerph6400]

The grape juice mustache slays me. hahahha

[@alancorrea9161]

Poor Brenda but she knew in advance what kind of guy he was and saved herself from a lot of hurt , sometimes its better to be on your own. I like when he said if I was ugly would you still go out with me ? He wasn't expecting her to say YES . We all have a little Brenda in us. Look at me I just broke up with my g/f and thats all we were , friends. I had wished and hope it would be more. I paid for the dinners and the movies and even saved her a parking space so when she got home from work she would have a parking spot for her car. I would buy her flowers from time to time and pay for her earrings when she wanted to buy some.When Valentines came I bought her the big stuffed Snoopy she wanted and I was wondering what I would get. You know what she bought me , Hand Soap ! Can you believe it ! she said it smelled good. I finally called it quits for two reasons , I couldn't afford her anymore and I thought there would be somthing between us more ; you see now a little like Brenda.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Sometimes its better to not go for the extra pretty girls. Go for someone more like Brenda. She isn't a Narcissist. Dont let a woman constantly use you or walk on you. Stay sweet but be sure to wordlessly have an air of confidence so women respect you. You can't love someone you don't respect. When I was young guys that pampered me turned me off. I was young and dumb and didn't realize what I had at the time. Im ashamed of that. Now that I am older, I would love a guy like you that paid more attention to me and was super sweet and attentive. And romantic and thoughtful . Find a woman who is mature. Not necessarily older. But grown up. Hugs to you for being a good guy.

[@AliRedCrownedCrane]

Made me go get a bowl of pasta!

[@EphemeralProductions]

I’m fixin to make some chicken noodle soup myself! lol

[@juannunez5767]

Only on TV would Valerie Harper or Julie Kavner be considered fat or over weight.

[@FigaroHey]

Only in the '70s. Americans weren't massively obese then.

[@wendycarter7531]

The writers were ALL MEN

[@StrongnBeautiful]

Exactly. How stupid!

[@fintan3563]

I wish I were as fat as Rhoda & Brenda.

[@ruthestern]

We do not remember what appropriate body weight looks like.

[@Lisa1111]

I adore Brenda! 😆♥️

[@Risktaker21]

Way to go Brenda 👏👏👏

[@noelsmyth4962]

This is what real good comedy is,not the meaningless stuff that we've got today, Noel Smyth.

[@BettinaBalser]

For the entire series, I have coveted that handbag Brenda carries.

[@wpeters4361]

With that cruel remark Eric had made to Brenda in the laundry room 6 months earlier, why would she have wanted to go out with a jerk like that?

[@RepentfollowJesus]

She didn't though, did she.

[@PaulaJoW]

Rhoda keeps telling Brenda to stop putting herself down. Where do you think Brenda learned that from, Rhoda?

[@jeanmiller1142]

I think she learned it from her mother. And I think Rhoda was self-talking as she was saying these things to Brenda. They both needed some help in this area

[@thestones8022]

Ida

[@Kris-annKingyens]

I understand why she feels upset. The people in her support group was her friends and she felt she belong.

[@back2s0ul]

It seems like they put Brenda in frumpy clothes most of the time so she'd look more overweight than she actually was to help sell her as someone who overeats, but still, good for her.

[@KatieLL]

She was a good bit heavier a little while back.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

They did that to Rhoda on NTM. I saw layers of clothing. A t shirt, a blouse and a sweatshirt on top of who knows what else.Plus they made clothing thicker back then. Rhoda was never heavy.

[@BeachComber1977]

I love them both, fat or thin!

[@CDN1975]

They were never fat!

[@devinmartin5250]

lol ...someone post more Rhoda shows I think I watched them all ....

[@RepentfollowJesus]

8ve watched them several times. Come back and watch them again. Its been long enough to forget some.

[@TroySundt]

omg... its Marge Simpson. I never knew!

[@MelodyLovesMusic]

She was so smart. That guy was too superficial and saved herself some future heartache down the line. Very smart judge of character.

[@freakboy40]

Love Brenda...

[@cmtippens9209]

As big as all the "feminism" was played up on this show, it is sad to see that they were still judging women's worth by their weight. So superficial!

[@pamhoward5102]

You will notice how much Brenda looks different from when she first meet the first episode.

[@jacquelinelaurence8171]

Good for you Brenda. :).

[@bobbylaguardia6680]

In ways they looked like each other

[@LorraineMatthew-oe3mm]

LOVE THIS SHOW

[@randilevson9547]

Brenda had a similar transformation from overalls to that black jumpsuit, that Rhoda did, when she won the beauty contest at Hemple's Department Store, in an episode of MTM.

[@marvinabigby5509]

Gary seems obsessed with Rhoda at times

[@joanwindler1737]

Eric would of been very lucky to go out with Brenda. His loss

[@codym8897]

A picture of Rhoda's Wedding from Season 1 (1974-1975) is shown.

[@marchelleharris4842]

Brenda looked good during season 3. She should have stopped there. By season 5 she was way too thin.

[@richardswinbusk7787]

Great episode Rob Silver as always is great as Gary All the sitcom guys here are the typical jocks of the 70's but Gary always seemed the grounding friend He was less of a buffoon

[@paulducharme60oo]

I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, no problem.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Good for Brenda not going out with a jerk. I never liked blond guys back when . Well, ever really. She was never ugly or that heavy. She didn't deserve that. Later in her red top she's amazing ! Love her jumpsuit. I had a cream colored one in the 80s. Wish I could still wear it .Guys like him in the 70s wanted to put their hands all over you first date ,were rude and usually were wife beaters and ran them down all the time. What an awful thing he saud to her. Good riddance. A little plump is fine. Shes thin now but still the beautiful Brenda she always was inside. Men!!

[@LorraineMatthew-oe3mm]

A GREAT VIDEO

[@angeldelightify]

Wait does anybody know what pantyhose wiegh

[@MrMenefrego1]

That blonde guy was one of the worst actors I've ever seen!

[@AnnusMirabilus]

lol... like Robert Redford with no talent. Brian Avery.... he has way too many roles under his belt for such limited talent.

[@69Mucci]

I actually thought that was Robert Redford for the first second, and then realized he wasn't as good looking@@AnnusMirabilus

[@clownfashion]

Neither of these women were overweight. This storyline is tired. They just dressed them differently when they were supposed to be "overweight" vs when they "lost weight". You can tell that the creators knew neither was actually plus sized because of the actors they chose in that group scene. Makes me sad that this toxic storyline is so ingrained in Rhoda's character and Brenda's. I understand its a reflection of the time but wow would the show have been 10 times better had they not constantly been self-deprecating. They are both beautiful people.

[@davidmusicmaker]

Brenda was definitely heavier in season one. Julie Kavner lost a lot of weight between seasons 1 and 3.

[@MichelleMott]

Rhoda's character changed alot over the years. She wasn't as negative about herself or anything else.

[@TwiZoneInc]

The guy who plays Eric is the same actor who played Elaine Robinson's would've-been husband in the Santa Barbara church in "The Graduate." It's been awhile since i saw the film but I don't think it was a speaking part...other than him screaming at Benjamin Braddock as he takes his bride away from him at the altar! A very strange part...and another strange one here on "Rhoda."

[@pragatibhushan8697]

Brenda u r the best

[@shelley5008]

How did they get the couch and coffee tables to match??

[@martyrose]

Covered everything with the same fabric?

[@thestones2789]

GLORIA LUBITZ FROM LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY!! 4:36 AND MOOSE FROM THE pool hall episode...

[@heidisierra1250]

I Love Marge!...I mean Brenda ♥️😳🤗!

[@nathelondon3719]

Go Brenda!

[@cindysloan177]

I hope this wasn't supposed to emulate Weight Watchers. WW doesn't work this way at all. Also, they would welcome Brenda to come to the meetings as long as she wanted.

[@feliciagarland8462]

Cindy Sloan Weight Watcher's in the 70's was 😝.

[@lisapratt166]

We’re talking about ww in the 1970”s

[@RepentfollowJesus]

In the 90s they were discreet about your weight. I was too young in the 70s. But I remember people dieting on cottage cheese.

[@Prieze868]

A Madonna looks like Valerie Harper in some pictures

[@jackies1729]

Rhoda, take your own advice! Watching this show has made me realize how unattractive my own insecurities have been and that, we, as women, are the prizes 😊

[@RepentfollowJesus]

We all need to build up our friends

[@francesca7093]

Rhoda: Pretty colors - Ugly blouse

[@EphemeralProductions]

70s. That says it all lol

[@zimjun7]

4:07 Now that is weird! When Brenda got a hair do like THAT Rhoda said that she looked liked "Harpo Marx!" She hated it!!

[@JehanineMelmoth]

She hated this one too but was being polite. Look at her micro-expressions! Great acting.

[@hippychic7546]

i love Rhoda. i wish they hadnt changed her look to matronly after she got dicorced. she doesnt look the same. it changes the mood of the show.

[@hippychic7546]

brenda llost weight and looks amazing, and they made rhoda frumpy.

[@69Mucci]

I love how they keep making it sound like Brenda was enormous in these episodes. She would practically be anorexic compared to the way people look today.

[@randilevson9547]

I really liked the 'Rhoda' episode where Brenda falls in love with an FBI agent, played by Tim Matheson, who was using her apartment to do surveillance on the building across the street. They were so sweet together. He already had a girlfriend, and he lived in Washington, D.C., where he would be returning. End of the line for Brenda.

[@cindeed4422]

Rhoda was the Lucy and Brenda was the Ethel. The overweight frumpy one in the comedy team. Ethel was made to look that way because Lucille Ball put it in the contract. Why did they do it to Brenda. She was very pretty.

[@suzannegirard6556]

So stupid!!!! What is wrong with having a good spaghetti dinner!!!!

[@EphemeralProductions]

Pasta is carbs which in some people really DOES go straight to the hips. Lol

[@Ashley-zq5ch]

I hate this episode. Brenda was never overweight, even if she did lose a few pounds by this time.

[@m1k3ywestley7]

Eric looked good in those tight pants. 😍

[@randilevson9547]

Maintenance is an important part of weight loss. No one should be made to leave if they want to stay in. It is counter-intuitive to leave, and lose out on the group's support. A ridiculous set-up.

[@69Mucci]

Yeah, what happens if you gain back a few pounds and then lose it again? Do they keep making you re-join and leave again? That's ridiculous.

[@breezygodiva503]

In what world is Rhoda or Brenda overweight??? Its been the theme the whole series so far.

[@trawlins396]

All whyte women act like that. Especially ones in the city.

[@JehanineMelmoth]

It’s TV fat, not real fat.

[@davidmusicmaker]

During season one, she was noticeably heavier.

[@69Mucci]

@@JehanineMelmoth Keep in mind though that people in general were smaller back then, so being even a few pounds heavier than everone else seemed like a huge deal. Rhoda and Brenda would both be very thin by today's standards. Even being a couple of pounds overweight.

[@JehanineMelmoth]

@@69Mucci I was around then and that’s simply not the case. Even a model could be UK12 then, whereas now they are UK8

[@suzannegirard6556]

Rhoda is not overweight!!!! This is so stupid!!!!

[@sherryhook9066]

She never was. But, the standards in those days, as well as, the 80s and early 90s, you were considered beautiful only if you were thin and bony. Stupid is correct!

[@69Mucci]

You have to remember how much thinner most people were back in that time... so being even a few pounds heavier was considered "overweight"

[@belleve5709]

Brenda was my favorite on Rhoda she was just like me

[@michellemohr1433]

Brenda, how sweet, she hides herself.

[@scoobydoo8847]

im so confused whenever rhoda or brenda call themselves fat, or someone else calls them fat. They're extremely thin????? I dont get it. I guess things were just different in the 70s

[@trawlins396]

Not really. I know women who act exactly like that today. If they go over a size 6 they feel 'fat".

[@pamhoward5102]

Did you notice on Rhoda never keep her door lock. In New York. The most dangerous city. Brenda is the same.

[@meee4217]

Can anyone explain the lines: “Eric is here.” “Thank you but I don’t smoke.” I don’t get it?

[@pamhoward5102]

Brenda really looks good. After she lost the weight. She needed a better opinion of herself. She very tall and very pretty.

[@BillKing8888]

Weird - the guy who wanted to take Rhoda out isn't credited.

[@AnnusMirabilus]

The dude who looked like Robert Redford but had none of his talent? Brian Avery.

[@doowopdude84]

Vaguely. I haven't seen that episode in years.

[@jenniferholzman119]

You told me Brenda

[@michelemichele5204]

i loved the show Rhoda, but was turned off when they divorced. the show made me happy. she wanted so much to be married, and it ruined it for me....i do love valerie harper big time....loved her character even when she was on mtm show...

[@wookinooki9023]

season 3 was pretty good.

[@mariawelsh3190]

I guess not hearing Carlton's voice once in this episode should be a big hint where the series was really going🙄

[@michellepost5232]

During the 1970s, people were not obsessed with weight. Rhoda never looked fat anytime. Brenda was, at times, kind of chubby, but never enough to be repulsive. She looked about average. That Eric was a jackass, he was who deemed Brenda obese, and she was never that. Basically, she ate too much junk food. The 1980s decade was weight-obsessive, and some people became anorexic. They'd get down to 80 pounds, and still thought they were fat.Some died.

[@JehanineMelmoth]

I grew up in the 70s and people were weight-obsessed even then. Girls still died of anorexia. It just wasn’t as bad as today.

[@StrongnBeautiful]

At some point, you have to know who you are.

[@CDN1975]

In today's America all those "overweight" people would be considered skinny.