(much) Better Prototype - Table Redesign 8

[@evanbarnes9984]

The moment you have plans available for this version, I'm buying them!

[@josediodati5754]

I don't think I've ever been so committed to a KZbin channel . I'm so glad you're making new videos regularly

[@johnromero9962]

Scott, I too will be purchasing and building one as soon as you get 'around-2-it' of completing the plans. for those of us without a CNC machine, having the full size drawings to be able to print out our templates will be a great help. You have a very incredible way of problem solving. Impressive. Please keep up the great work / effort. Glad to know people like you. JohnR

[@davidlarson2534]

It’s getting better. I remember your first prototype. You can further reduce the thickness of the table by inverting those vertical ramps where the bearing rides. And, the longer the run the thinner it can be.

[@justavian]

The entire design process for this from the beginning has been fascinating. Thanks for sharing this. Very exciting.

[@Game_Blox9999]

I'm imagining something like this in a futuristic starship, like on the NX-01 Enterprise in the mess hall.

[@LuisSantos-dd9wc]

That looks Awesome. Been lurking for quite a while Seeing the iterations over time has been fascinating.

[@mRhea]

its so cool youre still doing this over a decade later

[@gregspeer3942]

Amazing build. I, too, will be in line for some plans.

[@emaq8530]

This is so exciting!! So satisfying to watch this come together

[@chinchye]

Awesome build!

[@poja82]

Sooooooooooo happy to see a new video.

[@AnthonyWebb7]

Love this, super impressive what you have done so far. Looking forward to the final!

[@JordanWalker1337]

This is super impressive work!

[@Heretowatchstuff]

This is amazing!! Will painting or finishing the wood affect the fit up? I can’t wait to see it finished! I’d love to build something like this for my house.

[@ScottRumschlag]

Thanks. Finish or paint should be fine. If you'd like to join the waitlist send me at email: scott@mechanicallumber. I'm working on the plans right now.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

That is one very cool project. I am curious though, just how much weight the various elements can support before dropping to the floor when this thing is extended.

[@ScottRumschlag]

Thanks. The final version has tongue and groove elements on the edges to lock the panels together, there are also support rollers under the main panels.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@ScottRumschlag good to know. That should help at least. Question remains how it would deal with sudden high-load situations. Like someone trying to get up from the table, losing balance, and trying to prop themselves up on the edge of the extended table. Would be a shame if such a moment of "shit happens" would damage such a magnificent piece.

[@Vivi24283]

This would be such a cool table for d&d

[@nitcat1]

Looking really good!

[@philipB31]

Superb! Thank you for sharing.

[@RobertLow-f7j]

Well Done Scott, Impressive

[@suntzu6122]

Nice project man :D

[@rogerhodges7656]

Great work! I have operated a couple of tables that were complete. The work to engineer the mechanism is overwhelming to me.

[@66davin99]

Awesome. In a further iteration, would it be possible to slim down the bezel or is there a mechanical limitation and need for the depth?

[@ScottRumschlag]

@@66davin99 Thanks. I think this is close to the practical limit for how thin the table can be without going to much more expensive methods/materials or compromising strength. The table must house 3x the panel thickness, clearance between the panels and structure to support everything while rotating.

[@66davin99]

@@ScottRumschlag Understood. Thank you.

[@r0llinguphill483]

This is cool.

[@steeldesignerpro261]

I’m curious about what CAD software you’re using for your designs.

[@ScottRumschlag]

Fusion (formerly known as Fusion 360). I came from Solidworks so it took some time to adjust, but I like it over all. Being able to rename and move files while they're open is surprisingly useful.

[@koresoteira447]

Ok, so this is some incredible engineering, although im not yet convinced of the practical application as a table outside of the novelty.

[@CAPTAINJ777]

Pretty darn cool 😎

[@tableshaper4076]

I assume the table leaves are maxed out in size within the collapsed table? How is the sitting knee clearance from the edge of the extended table to the skirt?

[@ScottRumschlag]

Yes, there's very little additional space available. You could probably squeak out another 1/8" here or there by dropping clearances to the bare minimum, but it's nothing significant. The panels extend about 7.5" past the skirt.

[@ScottAnthony-jt3ei]

You are amazing,,,, wow

[@MistressKuroko]

Thanks for this!

[@johnmorrison7984]

Amazing progress.

[@kaiwheeler64]

Can the mechanism rotate internally so that the top stays in place as it expands?

[@ScottRumschlag]

Yes, though you'd have to figure out drive the rotation. A crank would work but doesn't seem as elegant, maybe this is best as a motor-driven option.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

How is this design any different from a Fletcher capstan table?

[@ScottRumschlag]

@@AndyFromBeaverton there are many differences but probably the most relevant is a dramatically more accessible price point.

[@404-Error-Not-Found]

This is mathematically the least efficent way to get more seating for your table.... The circle is the most efficent shape for increasing volume with the least increase of edge length, aka seating area.

[@ecsciguy79]

What about the ability to bear weight? I dare say most regular tables this size could handle a person standing on them. Are you sacrificing this standard table feature in order to get the wow effect?

[@TomsBackyardWorkshop]

It's not a sacrifice. You aren't supposed to stand on a table, especially a pedestal table.

[@justavian]

While i don't particularly care about someone standing on it, i would like to know that it can take an expecting loading of a heavy meal without the panels shifting. Also, of course people press down on the table in various ways when getting up, or when leaning on the table and reaching for something. I'm sure he'll go over those things in the next revision.

[@ScottRumschlag]

A table with this many leaves and moving parts will never be a solid as a single piece design, but I think it's as good as it can be. The center bearing is as large as possible for maximum support and the main panels are supported as wide as possible by rollers that mount into the frame.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

If thats not cool, then what is. I see your description say we can join the wait list for the plans BUT when are you releasing the plans?

[@ScottRumschlag]

Probably September, I need to finish the table and document everything, which takes a while.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

@@ScottRumschlag I understand. Thanks for the heads up!

[@djonesey5]

As always Scott your posts are so entertaining as I marvel at your ability to design in 3 morphing dimensions. I think I can appreciate at least some of the reasons that you opted for torque tubes as the lifting mechanism for the “star” and “pickets:” its ability to have the lifting be controlled from the build's center gets you perhaps better positioned (no pun intended) to sell or license the center hub components, and requires less metal fabrication of the builder than the “lifting plate” design of kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmbaYmmNqbeEZ6ssi=nZeJEaR6KKALmAM5&t=190, but I am curious to see your lifting strategy's stability verses this alternative lifting plate's design, where the ramps are more distal from the center, and might be more sturdy. I assume that in your final version that you will, like in your original plans, opt for the dado and tongue additions on panels so that the panels not only line up, but the small table panels help support the pickets and the star when the table is expanded and these members elevated by “x” and “2x” respectively.

[@ScottRumschlag]

@@djonesey5 Ramps near the outside edge make the table thicker. I wanted to stay under 5" total thickness and inboard ramps helped do it. Yes, there will be some TNG style feature for fine alignment.

[@djonesey5]

@@ScottRumschlag Excellent point about thickness. The torque tube's distal arm length can amplify the height achieved without having to make larger internal ramps; not unlike in your original build similar lever strategies were used to lift the star by 2x the x height that the pickets needed to be lifted.

[@Gealrage]

🎉

[@MonkeyShinesG2]

It’s witchcraft!! 😲