Mud Test: 1876 Winchester

[@Deltaguy447]

The lack of wheelbarrow clearly nullifies this test.

[@RalphReagan]

lol, snort

[@1804unclesam]

I laughed harder than I should have at this

[@thegurem]

Why are you shooting lefthanded? Is ian slowly corrupting you?

[@DonHaussettler]

Pretty sure Ian is speaking through a Stormtrooper helmet.

[@moosefat100]

One shake. Everybody knows the rules

[@b.c.102]

Two shakes and you're- wait no!

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

Shake it once, that's fine. Shake it twice, that's okay. Shake it three times, your just playing with it. ;)

[@NvrchFotia]

Mr. Dmitri Ravenoff I’d rather have someone think I’m beating my dick than get piss in my underwear.

[@bigdiccmarty9335]

@@NvrchFotia Facts

[@ADRay1999]

Maybe if you guys get a chance, why not do a mud test on a Krag Jørgensen carbine and a mud test on a Springfield trapdoor rifle, to see what it would have been like for the soldiers that carried these two types of rifles during the Spanish-American war We already know about the Winchester 1895 (but not many soldiers were armed with them) so I think it would be cool to see how both of these weapons would handle in the mud.

[@dalecurtis9963]

Plenty of bubba fucked ones that arent really salvable

[@zestamaster]

@I Twine the other day i found a sporterized krag at a pawn shop. Had stickers of ducks on it, and a springfield hunting stock stuffed on it. That to say, i dont think it will matter too much, given what fudds will do.

[@RalphReagan]

Owning a trapdoor I don't think mud would mess it up at all

[@bloodlove93]

It you feel confident maybe send it to ian and Carl to text it for all of us.

[@bloodlove93]

Test not text,damn autocorrect

[@dimscrawl4910]

This made my stomach hurt to watch. That poor rifle took it like a champ.

[@MrSnowmandeath]

When he left the dust cover open ugh. that hurt.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

Well thankfully a reproduction

[@an_ordinary_goose]

I think they were hurting too having to potentially ruin a fine model of a rifle

[@JoeyJoJoJoestarJuniorShabadoo]

Just a Uberti repro though, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

[@EdwardZhou_TJOL56]

Comments are still enabled? Party while we can!

[@skyflier8955]

When can we see a mud test of Ian’s Chauchat?

[@openmythirdeye]

Let see if it handle a slight wind before mud

[@sharkfinbite]

That is too precious to do. Not many people in the U.S. I think still have them

[@skyflier8955]

sharkfinbite not only that, but the Chauchat is infamous for it’s unreliability, and you can figure out this is meant to be a joke

[@BillBodrero]

LMBO

[@545x39Rat]

We need more Old West Vignette

[@otterman3246]

Why no wheel barrow? Disappointed

[@zachsorenson1382]

I am curious I think it makes it easier to got at the mud and one less thing to clean

[@otterman3246]

zach sorenson WE NEED THE WHEEL BARREL

[@otterman3246]

GunFun ZS happy? I fixed it

[@Observer31]

@@GunFunZS it's funny because it's true!

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I did not expect her to function when you mudded it with the cover open. Truly surprising results.

[@ethanjohnson2548]

I think a pump-action shotgun would be interesting. 870 vs 500 vs 37 maybe?

[@lunarpking]

Hell, do the whole run of the popular shotguns, 97 and 12 as well.

[@ethanjohnson2548]

@@lunarpking I didn't even think of those. Maybe a Remington 10? The '97 would be a real interesting one.

[@lunarpking]

Isn't a Remington model 10 basically a more complex Ithaca 37? I'm mixed on if the 97 would do well, two open ports with a huge opening in the back plus an exposed firing pin striker like on a revolver sounds like bad news. The only saving grace I could think of is the bolt flinging mud away from the action, just to bring it in when it goes forward. Now I'm tempted to try this with my Norinco 97 but that thing is a bitch to take apart and clean.

[@scottwatrous]

When he was cycling the action at the end there that was my thought too: how do the shotguns handle ye olde Arizonian muck?

[@noneyabusiness3253]

Ethan Johnson I have a feeling they would do poorly but I’d love to see it

[@patfilice]

How long did it take to clean it out after the mud test

[@atrocitusofryutt8410]

This guy is doing the brave work. Getting expensive replicas dirty so we don’t have to on a test that none of us would.

[@CapitanAP]

" - I think we've got some mud in there.. - Yup.." Ian and Karl, 2019

[@rowdyzack5914]

Firearms for MUDBATTLE 2000: 1) 1876 Winchest 2) Luger Pistol 3) AR-15

[@yangcheng-jyun8542]

You forgot Winchester 1895

[@Markosinkpen117]

Also the Arisaka Type 38, it actually functioned well for a bolt action rifle with the few problems only solved by finger cleaning the locking lugs under the gas ports and realiable dist cover. The Emperor protects.

[@TheFlicky0069]

I’m deeply saddened by the lack of wheel barrow in this video. That was the most reliable thing in the series.

[@zacharythomasfreeman]

I would love to see a mud test of the FN P90 because it's so unique.

[@FluffRat]

Have they done any direct blowback actions before? I can't recall any. Would the PS90 present any special risks due to the bullpup layout?

[@zacharythomasfreeman]

@@FluffRat I'm not sure, and because of its super unique magazine feeding design I am super curious as to how it would hold up.

[@MandalorV7]

And they have to do some spoof of Star Gate.

[@Smasher-Devourer]

The Austrian shovel company must be a sponsor because it always gets an honorable mention in every mud test.

[@kl3847]

I don't care if it's overkill we need the huge frickin wheelbarrow of mud.

[@Akeris91]

im surprised you guys dont have a standard amount of remediation water for these tests, maybe a canteens worth as most soldiers thought most eras would carry on them and be able to apply to a weapon in the field if needed

[@BicyclesMayUseFullLane]

To be fair, it was never meant to be scientific. There are so many variables that are uncontrolled in the "test" that it can really only be used as sort of preliminary examination.

[@shadow3z1]

I agree a canteen should be used for remedial water application as every soldiers has one.

[@MandalorV7]

When out of water a soldier could pee on the gun. Hey if it cleans the gun out why not...

[@greencreekranch]

Standard amount is the bucket. It should be 4l if im not mistaken

[@mycrappyplaylists]

Watching the mud poured on I was filled with sadness.

[@mildphil]

IDK why but the little "ok" from Ian @ 4:16 makes me chuckle

[@Redchrome1]

Thanks for continuing the "what if?" lever gun series, please make a playlist for it so I can be sure I'm not missing anything! This is my favorite series of yours.

A manual dust cover is standard with most guns that have a cover. The M-16 has a manual dust cover.

[@MrHalonoob117]

Just in case the comments do end up getting disabled, I just want to say I really appreciate you guys making these videos! I love watching them for entertainment purposes and for educational purposes!

[@sylum3]

When he poured that mud in there, a little tear ran down my face

[@biohazard3remake862]

Love these mud tests. People usually get so salty when their favorite rifle gets the good old InRange mud test.

[@1SaG]

2:06 "I can't believe I'm doing this either..." Universal motto for all of these tests, but especially true for those beautiful lever-guns.

[@sethmoyer]

That dust cover functionality is exactly like an AR!

[@johnyricco1220]

How about mud test a Vetterli? A bolt action with King’s gate and cartridge lifters.

[@jeffreyleftovers]

These tests are the best and are very entertaining. I think it could be cool to see how the beretta 92FS/M9 would fair. It has that huge open slide but it also has a reputation and track record of reliability.

[@BillBodrero]

Of all these mud tests, this one hurts my heart the most. I understand the good and practical reasons for this, I just love a Winchester '94 .30-30 like a grandparent, and I can't help seeing my rifle while watching this video. Beyond that, seeing firearms treated this way, hurts my heart anyway.

[@Ian_Bungy]

My eyes lit up and I squealed with joy at the sight of a new mud test

[@silentbob267]

It would be really interesting to see some pump action shot guns go through this test. Like the 870 and 590A-1 for example to see how they hold up.

[@charlescomly1]

Love watching these mud tests, I was looking the other day for a mud test on the 1903 Springfield but saw you haven't done one. I hope to see you do one soon some day, thanks for all your efforts.

[@hessex1899]

I know it's just an Uberti but this kind of hits me right in the feels. I think it would be really interesting to see a side by side comparison of nitro and BP cartridges and compare POI at various ranges and document any reliability issues with BP (F2F from fouling, etc).

[@churchowl3052]

Perhaps there could be a mud test with a straight pull in the future?

[@jamesellsworth9673]

Dismounted cavalry could fight in the rain! Thanks for explaining a great design and showcasing a fine modern reproduction. You guys do good work. Alas, I am a PayPal guy.

[@brettsims931]

I'm very impressed by the function. I want one! Or 3! You both do very informative and insightful tutorials... Great work fellas!

[@radical026]

How did I miss this mud test? I even clicked the bell icon before and it still got pushed out of my feed at the time

[@versal339]

Great job guys. Of all your mud tests that on hurt the most

[@Aaron_Jensen]

I've been yearning for another mud test, so seeing this uploaded is a wonderful sight. Great content as always Karl and Ian.

[@DavidMiller-wf5cc]

It truly hurts to see you guys do these tests

[@stevenandbobthedog]

Lever guns are the best guns

[@matteoorlandi856]

You know you're an important guy when the gun Jesus is your cameraman.

[@mesa7336]

It's important to note despite enduring every single mud test video, Ian and Karl haven't malfunctioned a single time.

[@mausercal65]

Absolutely loved this video , I love most all firearms but the old lever actions are by far my favorites.

[@blex5579]

cheers guys- love your channel- both you guys are really down to earth and i learn a ton alongside watching your videos...from germany.

[@WellDressedCaveman]

That really is a bad ass gun! I had a Henry, that I had to sell during the housing collapse. I've missed it ever since!

[@maskedhobo]

Very nice video you guys. Love the mud tests.

[@benjaminpierce911]

Love the embroidered smocks!

[@Perry2186]

test the Savage 99 probably the most over looked levergun

[@alexfogg236]

I would definitely put in the running for that title.

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

It would be interesting especially to see how it handles mud with the rotating magazine.

[@slymarbo152]

i would like to see a video of the cleaning of thees guns after the test to see what the mud did get to

[@johnkilcer]

Leaver guns seem to be winning the day so far.

[@joelwalmsley7217]

The mechanical sympathy side of me cringed when you used the action

[@TheWolfsnack]

exactly....mechempathy...

[@Leverguns50]

That was a very brutal test, but it come out looking pretty good, i’m glad you’re doing it not me

[@neowolf09]

What I learned from this video: if you get mud in your lever action, add water and mix with pinky or index.

[@villainousmaximus8775]

Gentlemen, I was taught from an early age that my rifle, my horse and my dog were tools to help me survive and get back home. With that in mind, I would wrap the action and protect it when not in use, never beat the dog or horse and care supplies for them too. All the channels that “torture test” weapons all come from a world where an armorer would fix or replace it. Apologies, but I come from an old school of respecting the tools you need and don’t waste ammo.

[@mezzanoon]

Karl seemed genuinely nervous to mud this gun. Its so beautiful I can't blame him

[@tonlito22]

Ian has 2 Chauchats. Science must be done!

[@roadrunner681]

My vote would be this over the trapdoor anyday of the week

[@thegunpenguin]

This is awesome! Though my favorite InRange videos are things like the Underground Railroad series and the Old West Vignettes, a good old-fashioned mud test makes any Friday better.

[@PaletoB]

Well there is no close tolerance locking lugs and the bolt basically hangs free inside the lifter. So not that surprising. Got to love old time actions.

[@1SaG]

Not an expert here, but: To me this seems way closer to a pass than to a fail. Karl literally poured the mud into the gun on the last two attempts and still managed to keep it running with relatively little effort. Pretty amazing for such an old design that probably wasn't conceived with Inrange's mud-test in mind.. ;)

[@brodywankenobi66]

I'm really surprised you guys haven't done a winchester 1897 mud test

[@71stang94]

Amazed at how lever actions are holding up to mud, now I wonder how a 1894 and 95 would survive

[@Lumpytusk]

Test not valid because you didn't use a real Russian-made Winchester.

[@Mike-rj3ko]

GunFun ZS Didn’t they have rights to make 7.62x54R 1895 Winchester’s that took Mosin stripper clips

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

@@Mike-rj3ko Winchester made and sold those rifles. The Russians just ordered them.

[@TylerHulan]

Whut

[@Mike-rj3ko]

@i dont want to put my name ohhh alright thanks

[@mikecarlson3575]

Impressive. Most Impressive.

[@JaWz6]

wow that was pretty impressive for an 1876 design

[@JoeyJoJoJoestarJuniorShabadoo]

Not a valid test without the proper official InrangeTV scientific wheelbarrow! Do it again!

[@45obiwan]

I carried a 30-30 in my saddle scabbard while riding fences when I was younger and found it every bit as reliable as my M-16/M-4.

[@NukebyCrazy]

I think a Galil Ace would be a good test, to see if the changes they made are actually helpful

[@AlOudball]

Very gratifying, very thought provoking. There is an English website (which I’ll look up the address ) that narrates the report from the British Army test of the uh “Daddy” of the large action toggle system: the British Army trials rifle of 1868…their sand test involved BLOWING a stream of fine sand into the action for a minute…now that particular rifle did jam up so bad that the action lever was bent over from the force applied to free the action….Winchester might have benefitted from that 1868 test…however in the range test conducted before that, the rifle put a 5 round string not a 12” bull at 500 yards AND a 5 round string into a 3 foot bull at 800 yards (.455 cartridge round)…the Brits liked the Winchester best in the test and saw a future for it…..but ultimately went with the Martini Henry……Seems like the generals that had the most faith in the Winchester were the defenders of the Great Plains…. Maybe somebody noted this previously in this string… LOVE my 1876!!!

[@kurtbergh]

A mud test, right before l was gonna go sleeping. Edit: Where's the wheelbarrow?!?!

[@GUNTHER-lx6vu]

Damn that's awesome I didn't expect for it to do so well

[@danberry396]

I think an improvement to the test would be only "cleaning" it with water poured from a canteen. My idea behind this it was making it more of a field expedient cleaning

[@GOBRAGH2]

This is impressive! Keep creating videos for this kind of content!

[@alpham777]

Part of the reason they run better dirty than bolt actions is mechanical advantage. Cutting through grit with the added leverage of the lever and various cam points in the system makes for a much better design.

[@alifeoncechris]

That’s pretty damn good.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Thanks guys! I'd say this design isn't as bad as some would want to believe. Good test :)

[@verager2493]

The real lesson here seems to be: if your gun is muddy, make sure you shake it

[@patrickzsilavetz]

Great video guys! Quick question that you guys may, or may have not discussed; is a lever gun less or just as obsolete than a bolt action rifle?

[@aurorawhorealis]

I believe Karl has said a lever action carbine in .357 mag would be a great home defense type gun in places where semi auto is restricted before, q&a I think, so I imagine they would consider a lever gun much more viable today than a bolt action, probably solidly obsolescent.

[@aramondehasashi3324]

When compared to modern semi autos like the AR15 yes they're just as obsolete. This is coming from a lever gun fanboy.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It certainly helps that you understand the action.

[@jenkinsonian]

I can see why the top brass in Armies didn't want the soldiers to have such a high rate of fire. Most soldiers didn't have the training to have much in the way of fire discipline which would mean ammunition would be used up much quicker than a single loader. You have to get the ammunition from where it is able to be made to the "front lines" and that is a much longer supply line than food is. You can't just shoot an animal to get more bullets like you can with food when out in the field. Logistics is very important and not often thought about.

[@ramrodkid4440]

It strikes me as humorous that he would state " BLACK POWDER IS A PAIN " when he is about to immerse that fine rifle in MUD !

[@dustinjohns7222]

MUD TEST A AR15 WITH A CHARGING HANDLE ON THE SIDE "ASKING FOR A FRIEND LOL"

[@dredlord47]

Would have been nice if you guys could have gotten one of the 1876 muskets, which is what they would have gone with for the infantry.

[@marzcapone9939]

Ok, so Ian is on the phone? And now Karl is left handed? Good mud test for sure! thanks

[@spartaninvirginia]

Mud test with a Schmidt Rubin?

[@matteoorlandi856]

It's gonna jam instantly.

[@KI.765]

Seconded, I really don't think it would handle ANY grit. The moment you open the bolt, the bolt's movement would drop the mud right into the magwell. Strangely, I think the K31 would do worse than the G11 or 96/11 pattern rifles.

[@spartaninvirginia]

I think a K31 would jam faster than a G1911 or K11, which is why I'd like to see the test.

[@jonathank7394]

I have never heard of a 45-60. I guess, there is always more to learn.

[@jeremywatson9129]

These episodes hurt me on the inside sometimes.

[@bradmarthafocker4285]

That was pretty damn impressive.

[@jasonjohnson6938]

Admirable

[@Talex-jb8bp]

You’ll have to test the 1895 lever action from Winchester because that is a completely different system that I think might fair worse when you can of course

[@jessebarden6203]

Would be interesting to see a mud test on later Winchester leverguns like the 1886/92 or the 1894. I'm curious to see how the Browning designs would stack up compared to the Henry designs.

[@pffear]

This was a great test, I think one of your best..... And l'll give you this to think of..... If the ARMY had gone with the Winchester 76 in 45/60 and the Winchester 73 in 44/40 and the S&W number 3 chambered in 44/40 or the Colt SAA in 44/40 so you have ammo crossover with those weapons the only resupply problems they would have is quantity of 44/40 and quantity of 45/60 to worry about...... Or if S&W Number 3 could have been made in 45 LC and the WInchester 73 chambered in 45 LC as well it would have been magnificent.....

[@kickapoo621]

I am proud to also have contributed to this gun. I hope you enjoy it as much as i do enjoy your videos!

[@NolanKiper]

Excellent video gentlemen.

[@Rustebadge]

Whew! Reproduction. If you had dared to use an original '73, it would have revealed that you are not a gun guy. Relieved. Fun and great rifle BTW.