Why Manga Don’t Last in Shonen Jump

PATREON - / mugenbop
From Ayashimon to the greatest manga ever made Kagurabachi, why do new series struggle to stay alive? And why do people think they know what will live in Shonen Jump? Let's find out.
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DISCLAIMER: Jajanken also calculates rankings based on the table of contents in the magazines which is what I forgot to mention, this layout of the magazine can be seen to correlate with a decline in popularity, and it is still up to the editor-in-chief of Weekly to decide if it should continue serialization
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[@ignitetensei]

First of all, I'm not here to shit on this video or act like I'm on a higher plane or something but there are things that has to be clarified with this topic because there are some misinformation in this video. So, Jajanken displays ONLY the Table of Content of the Weekly Shounen Jump current issues (basically the order of the chapters in it). While Jajanken says these are "ranks" probably it is only a misinterpreted/wrongly translated thing because the original website is japanese, but these are not rankings. Table of Content is NOT equal with the real popularity of the series. Just to see it through, the real ranking works this way nowadays: Readers can buy the online/web version of Weekly Shounen Jump and at the end, after all chapter there's a survey that asks for your favorite Top3 in the current issue and also a few information about yourself. This survey create a ranking every week at the editorial department but the results are NOT public for anyone and there's no public information about any kind of ranking by the publisher. In Bakuman the ranking is very important of course, but you can see that every time these things are told by the editors, because it's an internal information and it is known only by the company and it's employes. The Table of Content (the order of the chapters), that you can check every week on Jajanken, decided by the Deputy Chief Editor of Weekly Shounen Jump. It is a misconception that ToC = Popularity in Jump and it has been proven wrong multiple times by people like Oda-sensei himself (it was a popular topic because yes, it can be misleading). While the survey and the popularity has an effect on the decision of the weekly ToC it is not the real deal. There are a lot of factors behind the decision, but the Deputy Chief's most important job with the chapter order is to make a unique and smooth reading experience in the Jump issue. Of course there are established schemes regarding the ToC, like more popular series, new oneshots are mostly in the front (or the first half of the issue) and first chapters of new series always the first in order (this is what you see with Two on Ice, MamaYuyu and Kagurabachi as well in the latest issues, that's why the are #1, it's not about popularity at all). But there's a lot of case that things goes other ways because the current issue requires it. Like you could see with Undead Unluck, it is a really popular manga series in Jump but all of a sudden last week it was placed #15 in "ranking" on Jajanken but this week it's #1, if you think about it, this makes no sense at all (also this #1 is probably can be explained by the coming anime adaptation of the series, just another factor for the decision of the ToC). Yes, you can notice that series on the bottom of the ToC list have a higher cancellation ratio. Of course if a manga is in the second half in the current Jump issue then less people gonna read it because mostly people just run through their favorite series (mostly these are the popular ones that er in the front) and then they stop reading. BUT there are many chances for comebacks even for the most unpopular series (ofc it's really hard) like when they get a Colored page for your chapter (if you have a colored page, mostly these chapter are in the first half of the issue) or if there are things with your series that has marketing value (like an anime adaptation) your gonna be much more higher in the ToC. Sorry for the long comment, but I think it is important to clarify these things because people tend to judge by these "rankings" and they won't read a manga just because it is on bottom of a nonsignificant list. If you want a more accurate ranking system, you can watch the sales of the tankobon books by volume in a specific time interval (like sales on first week, month etc.) but because changes in economy it is not that accurate either. There are no real public rankings so don't be fooled by the ToC because it's not a legit ranking. As a comicbook artist/mangaka myself all I can say is that read what you are interested in and enjoy it and support the manga and the mangaka because it means a lot for us creators!

[@mugenbop]

I appreciate you taking the time to type this out and post it, does very much show how we won’t ever know what will succeed especially with their internal rankings :) I had trouble finding many sources of mangaka’s personal experiences and would love to read them if you have some for example

[@Nevinhere]

@@mugenbop I still think Mangaka should find a new place for their amazing mangas on a whole scale.

[@TheKinglyWay]

You must realize that I aint reading all that

[@N3mis1s]

yap yap yap

[@MADKapo]

So Ichinose Family is probably safe? It's at the bottom of the TOC but it's selling well.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I want to hear about a mangaka taking a story Jump rejected and becoming iconic with a different publisher

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Attack on titan

[@mugenbop]

Probably has happened many times they just don’t talk about it :)

[@aquabotol2413]

@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 i mean with isayama early art it's just no way it Will survive in Shounen jump 😂😂

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

@@aquabotol2413 I saw it it wasn’t that bad

[@bark10sui]

@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 it was tbh, the drawing was dogshit, but great story tho

[@panpan1287]

The major thing is that really, Shonen Jump will need a new hit sooner rather than later. MHA and JJK are both in their Final Arcs. Black Clover moved over to Jump Giga. And Sakamoto Days and Mission: Yozakura Family are probably also approaching their finales within the next few years. Even One Piece is in it's final saga. And right now they have nothing to replace those Weekly Series. The only other really established series they have are Monthly stuff like Boruto, DBS or World Trigger, and something like Blue Box of Chainsaw Man. Both of which aren't gonna last forever. The mega-series era of Shonen Jump from The Big 3 Era has passed. Most series finish within 200-250 chapters nowadays. They need to start giving new series more of a shot before the magazines titans end for good. Right now, the only newer series they have are Mamayuyu (which probably has the best shot), Kagurabachi (Which is nothing but a meme), Shojo Null (Which is basically just Elden Lied but with robots), Wild Strawberry (Which is just Chainsaw Man but less interesting so far), and Two on Ice (Which won't fill the Battle Shonen void.)

[@spencerl.9859]

Will be interesting to see how much One Piece ending will affect sales. I have to imagine there's a significant portion of people who only buy weekly for that series.

[@qukijoba5262]

Sakamoto days is not ending soon. Most successful manga in jump last for 200-250 chapters , the big three are the exception not the norm . Only 8 manga in wsj have lasted for over a decade . Here are the promising newcomers which don't show signs of ending withing the next year : Nues exorcist , kill blue , akane banashi , sakamoto days , the elusive samurai and witch watch . Also you don't know the difference between jump plus and weekly shonen jump .

[@skyblade7438]

The amount of people backing MamaYuyu in the comments warms my heart. I could see Nue’s Exorcist running for a while, but it’s definitely based on it’s popularity in Japan, the west did not care for.

[@ベタ凪-n2d]

ビッグタイトルが終わるたびに日本でもそう言われ続けているけど、新たな時代を作る漫画は待っていればいずれ出てきます 読者が焦る必要はありません その為にも面白くない漫画は早々に打ち切り、新たな漫画を少年ジャンプに取り入れ続ける事が重要です

[@VexJinks]

Meh, the Shonen Jump way of publishing manga is archaic anyways. Just publish the manga in volumes and call it a day. No more chapter by chapter nonsense.

[@ktmyk61116]

This video reminded me of the time I spent my limited allowance to buy WJ and send a letter to vote for Gintama every single week. It was always ranked low on the ToC in the beginning, and I desperately wanted it to stay. After a year or so, somehow it survived and ended up with 77 volumes. I know my votes didn’t actually do much, but I’m so proud of myself even after almost 20 years.

[@mugenbop]

thats sick as :)

[@urieldhka]

Dude, Gintama (like Bleach) was selling the same (and even more in some months) number of volumes as My Hero Academia despite being placed in the latter half of the magazine. The editor in chief usually places old, popular series like those two to give less popular series a chance to be read by proximity. As long as people are still buying merch and volumes, the manga won't be cancelled.

[@ktmyk61116]

@@urieldhkaBelieve me, Gintama wasn’t like Bleach or Naruto from the beginning. It wasn’t really popular and could have been canceled anytime during its first year of serialization. I knew how mangas got canceled in WJ bc I’ve been reading it since 90s and that’s why i was so desperate🤣

[@ades6695]

Me and my little bro like Gintama so much. I'm happy that it was able to reach a proper end.

[@lilpenn7516]

At his point I'm just praying they don't axe Cipher Academy, I'm content with it not being popular but I just want it to survive long enough to conclude naturally.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

I love the series but I’m surprised it’s still alive, it’s just so different from other manga in the Shonen Jump’s usual line up. Very happy that it’s doing pretty well though.

[@kuromusse9604]

Fr was surprised as well, and I thought it would get axed by now. I'll have to catch up to it

[@bastysoriano5030]

I hope it doesn't get a PPPPPP treatment. The sudden end of that manga broke me.

[@weedweeb9211]

I'm a Nisioisin shill so please let this one live even though i doesn't read it because I'm too dumb to join in the puzzle

[@justseanyt]

Sadly last week it was axed 😢

[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

I was so mad when they cancelled Hunters Guild: Red Hood. I felt like they really missed an opportunity to let a series expand.

[@Kaimax61]

You don't wait for "success" in SJ, you grab it by the neck.

[@kaivrc8875]

one of the best and most entertaining anime and manga creators on the platform. Love every video!

[@liamerasmus8592]

Out of the new series I really hope MamaYuyu sticks around. I definitely want the others to do well as well, but I'm specifically very drawn to MamaYuyu so far. It's character work, artwork and paneling, and story have already been so strong just 4 chapters in. I truly believe that it can be something real special if it gets the chance to thrive in the magazine.

[@ozzcoremidmx8287]

I am pretty sure the mangaka was inspired by Dragon Quest, the design in characters is very similar and the structure is fantastic, mamaYuyu looks tremendously promising

[@nickjaxon1317]

Geez😔😔

[@FramingTheNarrative]

Good stuff, definitely more informative than I expected. Another reason I would imagine chapter 1s do so well is you just get more content from them lol. Both in page number and the bredth of intellectual content that gets frontloaded when a premise is first being setup

[@LJkiller]

Man, it must feel so suffocating when trying to break into the manga world with your own story. I mean, I get it, they thoroughly enjoy and love making their manga and to actually tell their story. But having to think about other's perception towards your work must be stress inducing. I wish any mangaka to take care of themselves, especially Oda-sensei Good video again 👍, I really like the editing style in addition to the easy-following content

[@Kaimax61]

Here's the deal, they are always free to go indie, no one is stopping them, but publishing your work into Shonen Jump and other magazines has the most eyes looking at it.

[@covereddonuts1279]

@@Kaimax61 tbh I would probably go with another magazine and start there then start publishing to jump. I would hope the other magazines would have more leeway since they aren't as popular but can get your series out there. But idk i could be wrong

[@mikimiki5841]

Another thing that matter are the editors, even in Bakuman mentioned this, you can have a good or bad editor

[@theoriganalxldub]

I instantly knew this was from Bakuman and I haven't read it since it was week to week lol. I still think of some of the story concepts from that series. The no dialogue chapter in the in-universe manga "Crow" would slap so hard irl

[@sirapple589]

The second last chapter of the series Slam Dunk has no dialogue. It’s incredible.

[@MuSaExpansion]

Man Ayashimon was peak bro i was kinda annoyed when it got axed

[@mcnuggetsauce1851]

Dude fr, it was so good

[@athyrus0190]

No it wasn't lmfao. The manga literally said it out loud through the main character that "skip the boring stuff and let's get to the fighting!" That shit had 0 story and the MC was just Saitama x Denji but even more stupid.

[@OK-qj9lw]

@@athyrus0190 yeah but that the his character, and he wasn’t just a one punch man he actually had to learn things. Also his “sister” was the brains of the 2 so it worked. There was so much to build upon and it seemed like there could be a HUGE war between the factions but alas it got axed before that could happen.

[@athyrus0190]

@@OK-qj9lw pls just read better stuff. Watch steins gate that shit is the best anime of all time. Then you'll know what is good or has potential

[@nekokinds]

@@athyrus0190 different genres man. needless elitism. i love the entirety of the sci adv series, i've played all of the visual novels. still liked ayashimon until the ending started getting rushed, it had some unique traits

[@damiantrigo3205]

New manga are usually given a trial period of 2 volumes, about 12-15 chapters. Sometimes a manga might be popular but not the favourite in the ranking, that's why the editorials wait for the release of the first volume. Even if the rankings are low, if it's selling enough volumes in the week it comes out, there's a chance that the manga may continue. Mangaka work about 3 chapters ahead of publication in a weekly magazine so by the time enough chapters for 1 volume are out they know if they should get ready to wrap up the story. Then that volume comes out just in time for them to draw the final chapter if they need to. If the sales were alright, then they can introduce a new arc instead of wrapping up the story. But it doesn't end there, because the threat of a cancellation still looms over every manga if their ranking drops, unless they are pulling one piece or jujutsu kaisen numbers, no matter how long they have been in the magazine.

[@JedHazel]

The real question is why doesnt Sakamoto Days not have an anime yet if its success is still good

[@OasisTrain]

Ya where’s my sakamoto days anime 😭

[@christianroot6287]

animes take time

[@Kaimax61]

There's probably some bidding wars happening in the backrooms.

[@y4nush259]

Jump TOC actually lags behind 8 weeks to the reader polls and if a series gets front cover or color pages it doesn't reflect its rank since those spots are fixed in the magazine, however consecutive color pages/front covers usually mean the series did well. TOC is also not entirely reliable, because the magazine editor can influence the series' placement if they want to promote it for some reason (anime/event coming out). We won't know Kagurabachi's true ranking for few weeks.

[@crystalpeaches7825]

i read ayashimon and doron dororon ever since the first chapter dropped i was so sad they got cancelled :((

[@kinggaming7261]

That low key made me inspired 🤣to make the best of the best and I know it would be hard

[@TheHorrorend]

I'm here just to say that the start of the video is brilliant. As a Bakuman first minute fan, i was blown away by using Detective TRAP as the metaphor (inside the metaphor, aka the manga). Bravo!

[@LeviAckerman-zh7bf]

Why you putting kagurabachi on the thumbnail😭😭 don't disrespect our king😭🙏

[@KingKoohii]

Considering the data and requirements behind it all makes it even clearer how much of a literary beast One Piece is. Oda’s writing is so good it’s not even funny.

[@Charlestouchdown]

One of the better videos I've seen covering this. I'll give you the confidence boost bro.

[@echozeditz8897]

As soon as I heard detective trap I wondered if bakuman was based off a true story especially when you started saying things about the mangaka in the manga

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

Thanks for this beautiful video :)))

[@mugenbop]

Anytime :)

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

@@mugenbop Have a great day/good night and have an excellent week :)

[@JunkyPlayzz]

Can cancelled manga continue in lesser known magazines or do they sign exclusive contracts with Shonen Jump? It would be interesting to see them continue and compete in different magazines.

[@JTR_3]

they sometimes get put into the monthly magazines. like what happened to JoJo and now Boruto

[@MerryMelodyCH]

If I remember right Jump owns the rights but sometimes another publisher can buy the rights so a series can continue, Kodansha bought Shaman King and Akita Shoten got Masami Kurumada's works

[@blueeyesafk]

bakuman is actually my first manga in my collection, it gave me the perspective and passion i needed to actually get into manga

[@jpmontoya8008]

can’t believe you would put my glorious kagurabachi in the thumbnail with poorly performing shonens its the best selling manga of 2024 already 1 bachillion copies already sold🤑(unironically its doing quite well though it even survived the axe)

[@mugenbop]

I have sinned

[@nomology6482]

As a person who tried drawing manga weekly and do youtube at the same time, i can day drawing manga on weekly basis is such a pain

[@frankeeramirez5241]

I love black clover its in my top 3 of anime and im surprised it lasted that long man just wish the story would of been diff. I thought not having many deaths of good characters was a good thing but now a realize how stupid it sounds lol cuz the manga rn is not in a very good start. Btw was only an anime watcher until 2022 lol crazy how your mind changes said i would never start reading again lmao

[@whispertangle4136]

Found a really cool series with shonen jump called dear anenome, i absolutely loved it, it had mystery, action, cool characters, a fresh concept and the art was gorgeous. And as soon as things were getting good shonen jump just had to axe it, i’ve never really been so annoyed over a cancellation really

[@batmankaler]

Yea so the website you mentioned ranks the manner in which the series are placed in the week’s jump. It doesn’t shows the surveys rankings by general public hence they’re confidential. But yea one can definitely assume how the series is going by the manner theyre placed in jump’s catalog. Lastly about the cover leads The series ranked at No.1 is obvious because it got lead colour & is deliberately put at Nr 1 in reading order of that week’s jump. It is used as a marketing tool as well sometimes and has nothing to do with the surveys. Just wanna make that think clear. Overall, an Amazing video. Kudos man.

[@Hiddenphantom9999]

It’s the Final Fantasy music in the background. It helps the focus

[@C0ldIron]

Bakuman should be required reading for every manga reader. I regularly reread it and analyze manga based on what the series taught me.

[@mugenbop]

It tells a lot about the industry it’s actually insane :)

[@ExploDjinn]

When I first started reading Jump online, I would always get surprised when a series would die early. Now, whenever a new one starts out, I question whether it'll stick around and if it's worth getting invested in. I start getting comfortable after a certain point. Really wish Time Paradox Ghost Writer and Candy Flurry would have stuck around, among others.

[@officialejprice]

haven’t been able to keep up much with youtube these days but wow what an amazin vid mugen!! great to see how far you’ve grown🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@mugenbop]

That’s ok thanks for taking the time to watch :)

[@saawysorenson4585]

So why again doesnt Shueisha let people publish manga online on their web at little to no cost to them, so creators can basically earn their own fanbase and get a contract afterwards if they believe they can make it given the chance. I get that a lot of people cant afford to draw full time for free, but its something...

[@MerryMelodyCH]

There's a system like that with the mangaplus creators program!

[@giuseppem.labarile6851]

The guy in the picture around the 14 minutes mark is not oda lol that is eiji aonuma the guy who works on Zelda games

[@mugenbop]

yeah I posted I got that wrong I literally had never seen Oda before and Eiji came up haha

[@peanutbudderr5352]

Again i love this format of video keep it up

[@okami6724]

Kinda weird using a manga as a source of information of how manga is created lol. I read bakuman, and I pretty much enjoyed it, it inspires me to make a story. And I also use it as a source info as well.

[@kurpitsa6025]

I think about Ayashimon everyday and how fucking good it was. Literally the last chapter published was about a Tanuki man's nutsack. I miss it all the time.

[@khoahthong4434]

i'm proud to say that my favourite current running manga on weekly shonen jump is quite safe from being cut even if rankings are low most of the time... me and roboco. the meta advertisement manga for wsj... i think it might be me getting old, i don't follow shonens like i used to anymore.

[@thestupidfuncrisallstodios470]

Well i love gambling and i say kagurabachi is going to make it

[@mugenbop]

let us meet again in a year and await the results

[@griffinpresnell6747]

Sick video dog but I gotta say you’ve got like a hole or something in the top right of your green screen so you may want to fix that or crop it out next time, great vid tho!

[@orphanofkos2861]

THE FUK IS THAT YU GI OH FORBIDDEN MEMORIES FUCKN SOUNDTRACK IN THE BACKGROUND?

[@mugenbop]

Yep

[@ACViper]

kagurabachi is peak manga

[@patrickphillips9710]

I feel like they could make jump+ a great place for redemption if you can cancelled in the magazine you go to jump + and if you start to get traction there you go back to the magazine for another shot

[@daigrockishandsome8578]

Kagurabachi is my childhood

[@Icegaze88]

Could you please explain the way Kodansha’s weekly shonen magazine works? Can you also talk about Gachiakuta? Thanks

[@mugenbop]

here you go boss: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYSQoqGtg6aBe8U

[@agent.807]

good video in many ways, keep it up

[@deadchannelwhyareyouhereit9147]

I wish we could get the physical magazine outside of Japan

[@IMGUMII]

A really great example of this is My Hero Academia. When it first came out everyone thought it was going to flop and get cancelled because of that happened to all of the authors prior works, with the first few chapters being considered kind of weak. But now it's constantly in the top 5 and has been running for nearly 10 years.

[@mugenbop]

There was a manga called Barrage I found on the shonen Jump app and I thought it had an amazing art style and cool story, later learned it got cancelled and that the mangaka who made it came back with my hero, mangaka can fail but come back with something even stronger

[@possessed_squash]

It's Jujutsover in 5 weeks Im afraid :(

[@planetbirthday6859]

Even Kishimoto can get axed, he made another manga outside of Boruto about space samurai, lasted 50 some chapters and it was axed

[@aintthatapotofeffluck8926]

It was granted more time tho. Lasted a whole year. Other authors would have been axed by a few months.

[@royalfun1031]

Editors saved Naruto

[@fayandgake]

Yup it's a harsh competition over in japan

[@shutup5555]

Ah yes, you and Oda (Shows picture of Eiji Aonuma)

[@mugenbop]

yeah my b haha

[@kartikeyamalik5488]

Another banger vid ❤

[@kalfaxplays7899]

it's so sad when so many really good mangas get axed. especially a lot of isekai lately even when they bring something interesting to the table. btw bakuman is so good. sad that not all was dubbed.

[@murderman8578]

14:00 wrong picture of Oda

[@down1765]

Boy the algorithm sure liked this video

[@rom9846]

At 13:57 that isnt oda

[@hearts5846]

Why is kagurabachi in the thumb nail it’s ongoing

[@Aether_GM]

There's a manga about manga that I can't remember the name of. A guy recreating manga from the future.. from his microwave. It was actually pretty interesting and got cancelled after a few chapters. Really a shame

[@galaxyvulture6649]

I just think mangakas need to leave shounen jump like tabata (black clover creator) did cause it's clearly too much bs. I've followed tabata from the beginning where he was constantly talking about struggling with deadlines to the point he needed help from his wife with it while dealing with help issues. Every volume with those notes from the mangaka you can hear about the problems. Even akira toriyama was forced to keep making dbz go longer and he had to change ideas he originally wanted to do cause of them. Bleach even was rushed due to this nonsense. Now they're trying to do some weird stuff about exposing the identities of mangakas even though they REGULARLY receive death threats is wild. I just wish they can take their time more cause we would read it regardless and the change would better the overall story and them.

[@qukijoba5262]

A lot of mangaka can keep up with the schedule of weekly shonen jump but I agree that if a mangaka can't keep up with their schedule they should change magzine. If dragon ball was not as long then it would not have been nearly as popular. Mangaka are not perfect beings so they can have ideas that an editor disagrees with , change is not always a bad thing . Only the final battle of bleach was rushed because the author had health problems and he wanted to be over with it after writing a 200 chapter long arc . Why are you accusing shonen jump of revealing mangakas name , every magazine would have to implement that law which is enforced by the japanese government not shonen jump . And just because a story has a more loose schedule does not make it suddenly better

[@galaxyvulture6649]

@@qukijoba5262 I wasn't accusing jump and I didn't phrase it right. I meant to say it sucks what they have to go through and I definitely shouldn't have cut this sentence I had talking about the new law for context. You're right it's not guaranteed to make the story better, but it probably can help them in the long run with the story. I even think it's reasonable to assume the quality of the art would improve. Some of the manga I read now take a bit to release and the art usually is pretty impressive like one punch man, record of ragnarok, rose garden saga (don't read this), and vinland saga.

[@avatarmikephantom153]

One series got screwed for the dumbest reason: 2016 Red Sprite had so much potential. Basically a steampunk airship version of One Piece. So many cool concepts. It got cancelled because it filled in the void left from Bleach ending. Bleach fans “blamed” the series for ending Bleach rather than accepting that the series was just filling a slot. Red Sprite had a badass premise and Tatsu Frampt could have been a top tier MC with a sword, steampunk outfit, and red lightning powers.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

Hmmm I thought it was mostly just based on viewership and manga sales, I'm fairly certain those factors are the dominant ones but the surveys do influence things on smaller levels and I know Japanese popularity polls sometimes have authors keep characters in the spotlight cause their series can decline if a lot of people have fan favorites they prefer onscreen most of the time (for example this is why Gohan never became the main character of any Dragonball Z or beyond arc).

[@Ramona122003]

Gohan was #1 during the Cell Saga before he did anything. Toriyama himself said Gohan wasn't fit to be the main character, nothing to do with popularity.

[@pyroboy417]

You should do a video talking about how much $ and success certain mangaka are missing out on because their publisher wont do an official english translation. Epic video btw! Loved it

[@mugenbop]

That does sound interesting but I think that ultimately will be just a huge bummer video because unless it’s big 3 quality they don’t make a big wage I imagine

[@pyroboy417]

@@mugenboptrue, true. I was just trying to think of another video similar to this. I enjoyed the statistics and numbers of the whole industry along with the history.

[@mugenbop]

You should make that my guy if no one has done it why not you? :)

[@BlackHand531]

Why do people use the picture of Aoinuma as Oda? I'm so confused.

[@mugenbop]

It is because of another video called the dark truth of manga where they use that same photo and because of google automation his photo appears when you search Oda and is the nicest, newest clearest photo compared to old ones of the real Oda.

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

Manga is a limited market. They only have so many people to sell to. People cant read every shonnen. MOST will fail inherently. Just the business. You throw a lot at the wall to see what sticks. It doesnr even necessarily matter if its "good" or not. Just timing and the right smount of pandering to the average majority. Like black clover... How that manga is considered good is mind blowling. But it hirs all the basic shonnen tropes, there was a space for another generic shonnen, and it worked out.

[@A_Cool_Tunafish]

I hope Kagurabachi lasts and we didn’t gas up the creator for nothing

[@mugenbop]

That would be an awful fate if I’m being honest, so much public support and then nothing to help the rankings might be an effect from the western audiences

[@Deborah5000]

The manga industry should really realize that weekly releases is not ethical towards the artists and it is unnecessary. If you look at Marvel and DC you see a monthly release is much more doable and chapters could just be a bit longer to make up for content lost by releasing monthly instead of weekly

[@qukijoba5262]

But some mangaka are able to keep up with weekly releases and keep coming back to them

[@BlueBlazeKing]

The main difference is that there’s usually rotating teams and artist for each monthly release. So you get continuity errors, drastic artshifts and potentially character changes based on the current authors own views.

[@darnis6497]

Marvel and DC also sell like crap. The fact of the matter is those authors CHOSE a weekly magazine

[@mateuszmierzejewski1355]

you do realize that there are magazines with different serialization cycles right?

[@someguyuno111]

I still wanna know the reason why Phantom Seer got axed when the first volume sold pretty good. Edit: after looking at jajanken, I can see now

[@chopper3875]

Kagurabachi will make it

[@mugenbop]

🤞🏼

[@wren22]

how do you get the ranking of Dandadan? I can't find it in Jajanken. Also, it is serialized in Shounen Jump+. Is there a Jajanken version for Shounen Jump+?

[@mugenbop]

I do not believe they factor any other shonen jump series besides, the main big boy weekly shonen jump. Like you said Dandadan is Jump+ so based on other series that went through there its probably not as cutthroat, i.e Fire Punch, Hell's Paradise etc.

[@TomWonderful]

The first minute of the video I was like "wow, that looks just like the manga from Bakuman." Man I'm gullible.

[@gernizzle]

kagura bachi s unironically good though ngl

[@diremiralis4191]

Time paradox ghostwriter broke my heart. It had such promise

[@JTR_3]

that was a unique case for it being cancelled tho. it wasnt because of rankings, everyone including inside the company felt the whole premise was basically about being a cheater and about getting better at plagiarism.

[@Kaimax61]

It's glorifying plagiarism lmao. it got cancelled for IRL reasons instead of popularity or sales.

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

I figured it out. I checked new stuff now n then whenever it pops up on the site. But most of the new stuff dies out in a few months. Reason for it being because the stories in those new titles have no hook. They have gimmicks, but no hooks. It's blowing it's load as quick as it can instead of building it up and making it more interesting. They all drop right into the action but don't explain things properly. They just throw a bunch of rules at you for the new powers and what they are fighting which are often rip offs of hollows from Bleach or the heartless from Kingdom Hearts. There's a lot of Persona rip offs too. The character designs leave a ton to be desired. All the best Jump manga are very distinct looking, have likeable characters and really cool and unique powers and come from really unique worlds that took time to build. My Hero Academia got us accustomed to Deku in 2 chapters instead of one for his origin story and it paid off beautifully. We loved Deku for being relatable. He inspired us. Same goes for Naruto. Naruto gave us all the info we needed by chapter 3. Bleach? by chapter 2. They all had stellar first chapters though. Yu Yu Hakusho did it in one chapter. Rurouni Kenshin did too. Early 90s chapters were shorter and told more complete stories in them. These days everyone is in a hurry to get things moving without developing anything.

[@ceo9395]

I have my blue box and Sakamoto days so im content rip ruri dragon n other promising ones:(

[@BasedPajeet]

If only the west had the same standards. They would actually make profit rather than just surfing off shareholder money.

[@mugenbop]

Have you seen television shows lately? Arguably American tv takes less risks

[@turn_up_town1236]

What’s the two other manga next to Kagurabachi

[@LeoLuttinen]

Why did you use a picture of Eiji Aonuma when mentioning Oda?

[@mugenbop]

I searched Oda and that came up I thought that’s what he looked like!! 🤣

[@LeoLuttinen]

@@mugenbopNot surprising considering how few pictures of Oda have been made public

[@Blue_Lunacy]

I have minor criticism about this video. Certain path of the video ie: 14:13 has flickering light on your green screened image. As if your recording camera and the light in that room was not in sync. This can be harmful to people with light sensitivity issues and so on. I hope you can fix this issue somehow.

[@mugenbop]

No sorry it is a CRT effect layed over footage and have noticed that particular part of the video can feel harsh, I have adjusted the effect to not have that strobe for future videos.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

@@mugenbop Thank you for the reply.

[@spritvio639]

7:53 What's that manga on the right?

[@mugenbop]

That is Fabricant 100 got cancelled in the last batch of manga with Tenmaku if I am remembering correctly, got to 40 chapters I believe

[@ravencl]

the flickering hurts my eyes

[@standowner6979]

GACHIAKUTA is going to be great

[@benjaminhabeck767]

Shout Outs to My Boys, Sakamoto Days and Chainsawman finding a way.

[@froschdico3767]

K A G U R A B A C H I

[@amiasg9305]

I hope Kill Blue doesnt get cancelled

[@Akuzastar]

I was so annoyed when aliens area and ayashimon got cancelled... they both drew me in more than any other new modern manga has done... and jump cancels them 😅

[@RagDollRat]

in my 30+ years of enjoying manga/anime ive learned its better to fade away than overstay your welcome. Shonen has a system for bastardizing every succesful ip they get and unless you see the signs you wont know till years after its over. bleach, dragonball z/super, naruto, one piece all clone eachother and yu yu hakusho. low power magic world with hard working hero, tournament arc, real finale, space aliens, MC turns out to be a god/son of a god/demon/sage/the one/destined making his hard work mean nothing, now hes fighting gods.

[@akaiseigo]

Even though Death Note is pretty popular but it consists only twelve volumes, a lot less than Bakuman which the latter didn't get a lot of reception in the West than the former.

[@embers67]

its a great video but nobodys talking about the bug on the camera

[@holomorphic2273]

Its a real shame about Trap, glad Ashirogi Muto got it figured out with their later series

[@mugenbop]

They definitely did thrive with PCP and their masterpiece Reversi

[@MrXwingzerox]

Why is Chihiro in the thumbnail? Thats some hard cap?

[@Thesilentvoice...]

With shonen jump, they just seem to care about whether the story is popular over it being a great story/concept. I do wish they wouldn’t have cancelled any series so fast, sometimes fanbases take time to grow, and latch onto a story.

[@Kaimax61]

No, Sales still matters the most. No one cares about potential or concept, if it can't even sell 50k per volume.

[@ykitsmo]

mugen what is the sound you used in the first 2 minutes, can i find it anywhere?

[@mugenbop]

Sound? The tv switch noise is from regular show, any music is in the description link paste bin :)

[@ykitsmo]

@@mugenbop yeah that sound and the theme that’s playing while you’re talking in the first minute

[@NuBOrn21]

u ddnt even mention kishimoto second foray into manga even after the success of naruto his samurai series was axed immediately

[@dantaylmao]

Man, not any Ginka and Gluna enjoyers in these comments even? :(

[@mylegislong6357]

That’s not Oda.

[@noOtherFs]

Oh man we probably fucked over the author of Kagura-bachi by memeing it so hard, because in an interview, he saw the reception of his series overseas being so overwhelmingly positive, not knowing that a lot of those were in reality probably memeing it. It probably is good (I haven’t read it yet), but we’ve probably set a super unrealistic expectation for it going forwards just because of the memes

[@mugenbop]

I really hope this doesn’t end up happening as this would be a case of manga memes destroying a manga

[@vihurah9554]

Its nothing insane, but its pretty cool. I hope the author gets a fair shot at cooking

[@mathslnunes]

he is not stupid, he knows.

[@a.jordan9288]

That was fake thankfully

[@oliver8824]

you like to consume fake information in the internet, you don’t even bother researching. there was no interview. that was confirmed to be absolutely fake

[@fillycheesesteak1317]

I’m still so mad about Ayashimon it felt so different from every other manga at the time and to this day I still hope that it will somehow come back

[@ahmaddeham_]

lets keep praying bro, one day it will 🙏

[@dot-comintelligence9148]

I TOTALLY AGREE!!

[@The_Ajna]

It was such a good series. I'm praying for the return

[@dariustheotaku9073]

It had so much potential

[@DanPeters182]

Same, I've made sure to buy the volumes as they come out so that hopefully they see it's popularity.