Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson - Boxing Dream Fight

Who would win between prime Muhammad Ali and prime Mike Tyson?
Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson are two of the most iconic heavyweights during the long rich history of professional boxing. Muhammad Ali is widely viewed as the greatest heavyweight of all time, and he was a three time heavyweight champion had two dominant reigns as heavyweight champion during the 1960s and 1970s. Mike Tyson is widely remembered as being one of the most explosive and entertaining heavyweight champions of all time, where Tyson is remembered for his unique blend of speed, power, and impeccable timing. Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson are perhaps the two most influential heavyweight boxers of all time.
So who would win between prime Muhammad Ali and prime Mike Tyson?
This is an attempt to answer that question while providing a quick look back at some of the tremendous achievements of Iron Mike and The Greatest.
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This episode of Rummy's Corner was written, narrated, and produced by Geoffrey Ciani (aka - Rummy).
Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson - Boxing Dream Fight
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[@kelvintorres2675]

60’s Ali vs 80’s Mike is The biggest fight that could’ve ever been made in Boxing 🙏💯💪

[@edbd4613]

Prime Frazier vs prime Tyson Prime Foreman vs prime Tyson Would also be another two equally great fights. Wish Tyson was in that golden time.

[@WillBradley-tw9jq]

But it couldn’t have ever been made,hence why it’s a fantasy fight😂

[@mrsomeone846]

This should get A LOT of views…

[@stephenmacdonald4443]

I remebmber during 80s every boxing fan loved to chat about it

[@matthewwren4708]

Both these men are my heroes and as much as I want to think Tyson mind keeps wandering to Ali whatever age they met.

[@buckchurch1551]

Ali vs Tyson is like a prime Siberian tiger vs a prime tabby cat. Just dont see how this is even competitive. Speed kills, IQ off the charts, and an ever changing game plan for Ali.

[@retrocute]

Clicked on this faster than I could shift, D'Amato style

[@paulanthony5274]

Ali would hammer him

[@retrocute]

@@paulanthony5274 i love both, i see this as a coinflip. Wouldn't mind seeing either win

[@roccomoss35]

Lol yep

[@kobe1234ize]

Yes sir

[@m17-04]

@@paulanthony5274 mike tyson would destroy ali

[@dannysart3990]

Also, Ali just fought everywhere. Africa, Philippines, England in outdoor Stadiums. 15 Round fights. Ali was one of the most mentally tough fighters in History.

[@StonyStevenson75]

And where do you think his opponent was fighting?

[@duaneholcomb8408]

True he never was ko D. Got knocked down but that's it,,, mental toughness

[@jammin1881]

Yeah. Always makes me laugh when boxing fans put Mayweather above Ali when discussing all time greats. It’s actually funny.

[@bassingbasics6621]

Tyson was as well though

[@bigboris5774]

@@jammin1881 Ali is better than Mayweather because he fought in more countries?

[@kforcer]

They both have amazing physical gifts, but it just comes down to the fact that Ali was one of the best there's been at making adjustments in difficult fights, whereas I can't really think of a time Tyson has shown a capacity for that. He's shown heart, but he hasn't shown the ability to make changes mid-fight that altered the course of a bout. In some weird way, it reminds me of Zab Judah-Floyd Mayweather jr. Both had amazing physical gifts, but Mayweather jr.'s ability to make adjustments made all the difference.

[@30over3]

You ever watch his bout with Pinklon Thomas? Tony Tucker? Other fights as well, but I'll use those as examples. Tyson out jabbed a man that had 6 inches in height and 12 inches in reach down the stretch of the Tucker bout to pull out a "close" UD with scores of 119-110, 118-110 and 116-112.

[@boxinginside5874]

Well said...only thing is Mike showed hart as long as his style worked...there're many fights where he just gave up or started to sabotage the fight..

[@vCLOWNSHOESv]

Unfortunately, we never got to see the career Mike Tyson should have had. Mike had real mental and addiction issues as he fell for every possible trap of fame. Tyson's prime was from before he won the title until he fired Kevin Rooney in either 87 or 88. He kept winning until the Douglas fight, but he was already in decline that didn't catch up until Douglas. When he fired Rooney, he severed ties to the people he and Cus made it to the top with. Just watch Tyson fight when Rooney was in his corner and then watch him fight just a couple of years later. Tyson moved brilliantly, but after firing Rooney, he never trained right again and was just walking his opponents down, trying to knock them out quickly rather than moving and boxing the way he did early on. Mike Tyson was a completely different fighter after firing Rooney because his whole life was a mess on top of his training and people around him being a joke. The early Tyson doesn't lose to Holyfield or any of those guys. Tyson would have smashed Joe Frazier easily, but Prime Tyson vs. Prime Ali would be fun. Prime Ali meant before Vietnam and prime Tyson, being the could years after winning the title. I think Tyson would have been hard for Ali to hit because he would give Ali a combination of speed and power he never saw before. Ali was able to run across the ring and pop Foreman in the face because George was big and slow, but Tyson would have given him a much better fight than George did. I think Tyson would be effective, but Ali Ali would use his jab to puff Mike's eyes up and start being more aggressive later on. I say Ali late, if not by decision, but because of Tyson's massive power, he would be dangerous because Ali couldn't afford to make any mistakes. If they fought 10 times, Ali would win 6 or 7 times, in my opinion.

[@beauyerks7413]

Interesting take.......Judah,Mayweather also I think is telling in another way....while Mayweather always possessed Lazer focus and confidence, Judah could be discouraged and lose focus in adversity....same could be said for Tyson....also at 6"3 Ali had enough height to make it a less than ideal situation....if they fought 10 times I'd say Ali would win 6 or 7 that said,Tyson would won the others by knockout catching Ali cold early

[@davidrees7059]

@@beauyerks7413 Your analysis fails to take into account that Ali was never stopped despite going up against the biggest punchers in heavyweight history so not a realistic scenario. Even if Tyson dropped him Ali would get up and adapt.

[@DepressionShaman]

Anyone who knows anything about Mike Tyson knows that a slick boxer puncher with a great jab is Tyson's Achilles Heel. And Tyson himself has said on many occasions that he couldn't beat Ali. Ali was too fast, too tough and had the chin to take whatever Tyson could dish out. I'm a Tyson fanboy, but I have Ali winning as well. Great video.

[@michaeltrumph121]

Ali didn't have the chin to take whatever Tyson dished out, that is a dumb statement.

[@bobbyhulll8737]

@@michaeltrumph121 considering he was never knocked out .. it’s not dumb at all

[@ilivewithinmymeans5412]

@@michaeltrumph121 Ali had one of the best chins in the history of heavyweight champions. Tyson was knocked down and knocked out more times than Ali.

[@fivehundrediq5212]

@@ilivewithinmymeans5412 Ali wouldn’t made it past 6 rounds against peak Tyson but I get it you fell for the mystique of Ali

[@fivehundrediq5212]

@@bobbyhulll8737 Joe Louis got knocked out several times & boxing experts still think he could beat Ali easily

[@ShowBizzTheAdult]

Incredibly done! The best breakdown of this fight ever made. Thank you UPOFFNET!!

[@anthonyc2072]

ALRIGHT MAN LOOOOOK!!

[@coreyboachie]

@@anthonyc2072 who do we have here uh uh (insert name)

[@jasonmunro1983]

Black 2 sugars

[@SlimPlum691]

And that’s the black with 2 sugars!

[@taureangraves1432]

Showbizz you the man! I’m Tuning in later

[@fiucik1]

I can't believe that nobody mentions Quick Tillis fight. He appears in the video briefly. He fought like prime Ali, and Tyson(prime alegedly) had all sorts of problems. And Ali was better than Tillis in every way: faster, better chin, more athletic, better boxer, higher ring IQ, better stamina, boudless self confidence. Plus Ali's mind games. Remember, bullies like Tyson were Ali's specialty. I can totally imagine Ali destroying Mike mentally during clinches. "That all you got Mike?" I see Ali losing first few rounds as he studies Tyson, and whether the storm. Than 2 or 3 quite close rounds, and Ali dominating the rest of the bout. UD in 12 rounds, or even late TKO on cuts in 15 rounder. Nobody destroys Ali quickly. Norton was stopped few times in 1 or 2 rounds. Frazier got crushed by Foreman's power in 2. But nobody went through Ali just like that. Prime, or even old and with Parkinson.

[@buddha7178]

Tony Tucker also was a slick boxer puncher who gave Mike problems

[@niekoelen4355]

If Ali could really get under Mike's skin like he did to George, i could even see a ko for Ali. I can see Tyson getting super frustrated and punching himself out completely. I don't think he's as durable as George so he might go down even quicker.

[@julianmarx2002]

This is controversial, but I dont think Tyson would be able to hurt Ali with a clean shot. Foreman and Frazier and Shavers barely could, and 2 of 3 hit harder than Tyson easily.

[@juliohernandez3323]

Tyson in 86 when that fight took place vs Tillis was still developing. Tyson hit his stride by 1988. I still think it would not matter at all. Ali's style, especially the 1960's version is all wrong for Tyson. He would literally dance circles around Mike making him look foolish swinging at air.

[@kevinkeller6569]

Very well said!! You are absolutely right.

[@md9476]

Just when you think Runny has covered everything, he comes up with this gem! Keep up the great work, bro. The best boxing channel on KZbin, by FAR.

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

Who's Runny ??

[@LoveMachine-gk7dc]

@@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 Don't be a smartass. Everything else is on point, except for the typo, which happens to all of us.

[@donttouchyerbumnsniffit]

@@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 me after a dodgy curry 😏

[@hudsonbartley2493]

LOOPPOL

[@williamworkman1146]

Absolutely

[@libertines24]

I always thought Ali would win easily but watching your breakdowns of Tyson and Ali has made me realize it would be a closer matchup than I would've thought. I still lean Ali because I don't think prime tyson can KO Ali

[@michaeltrumph121]

Actually, he more than can since he will be able to do what the other big punchers who faced Ali could not, which is land big punches flush.

[@kingcassius2586]

Shavers hit harder than Tyson, landed several flush shots on "already suffering from Parkinson's" Ali and couldn't finish him.

[@duaneholcomb8408]

Ali never got koed Forman hit Ali flush on the jaw so did. Norten. who broke his jaw. And so did shavers none of them beat Ali,,.,with a Ko,, ,,

[@jeffboy13]

The Ali before the three and a half year layoff wasn't losing to anyone

[@trajanII]

Spink beat Ali. Spink had similar style as tyson with far less power.

[@folknblues1]

The speed that Ali lost after his three years away was of feet not hands. He still had great footwork, but no longer had that freakish fleetness. In compensation, he had finished maturing physically, and was bigger and stronger. If we're looking at fifteen rounds, I see Ali stopping Tyson late. About Frazier, I think he had begun a very gradual slide by the first Ali fight, compared with the guy of the Mathis and second Bonavena fights, and it's true he was blind, or all but, in his left eye for much of his career. He was relentless, and the only heavy of his era who had comparable determination and will was Ali.

[@sirdetmist3204]

Also look at the Frazier fights, Ali won the first 5 rounds every time it was just the relentless pressure from Frazier, Tyson didnt apply relentless pressure in the mid to late rounds.

[@Bobby.2000]

As well as cardio and heart. All things Tyson was lacking in compared to Frazier and Ali.

[@spendor9377]

I think this depends on age. A 20 year old Tyson beats a 20 year old Ali, but a 24 year old Ali beats a 24 year old Tyson. A 30 year old Ali beats a 30 year old Tyson. Tyson vs Tillis is as close as you can get to a Tyson vs Ali match. Tyson won on points, but you can see Tillis’ style (like Ali’s) is the right way to beat a prime Tyson. (stick and move)

[@brucescott4261]

@@spendor9377 ...Ali's ring intelligence was extremely higher than Tyson's, and it's documented. Tyson would have never defeated Ali, regardless of age. The latter would have changed his strategy while he's still in the ring. Muhammad Ali was extremely faster than Michael Gerard Tyson.

[@sky-oq5mr]

​@@sirdetmist3204yeah fraizer was like a more elusive rocky Marciano. Kind of went down the same way as rocky v Joe Louis. Joe Louis was dominating rocky once he found his jab but man rocky just stayed strong and relentless all 15 rounds, same as fraizer.

[@jerrysmooth24]

There is no way Tyson is gonna get a early stoppage on a prime Ali and he really has no other shot Ali by beatdown UD12 or TKO 14

[@theinformationbomber7102]

ali got knocked down by bums in his prime meanwhile Tyson never went down even when facing bigger stronger men Tyson Kos ali in 4 rounds max

[@ReservoirPunk]

@@theinformationbomber7102 😂😂

[@naeemislam1105]

@@theinformationbomber7102 bums such as who in his prime? Wtf u on about? tyson got knocked out by buster douglas

[@samautio6065]

I think that the KO would come earlier, being peppered with punches along with the taunts would be too much for Tyson to deal with.

[@ctapuk3754]

@paul stewart liston lmao,

[@cockylockridge8644]

For decades, the same question has been asked.... men and children alike, at the pool halls, at the playgrounds, at the local parks and barbecues, for decades this same question has remained completely unanswered, who wins? The Greatest or the Baddest man on the planet!

[@paulanthony5274]

By casuals who know nothing .Ali would hammer him no problem. There is no debate! Tyson wouldn't stand a chance,he didn't beat anyone..

[@naeemislam1105]

@Paulus lind again a clown thinking a casual is an insult lmao. Regardless of who u pick u can't prove who would win. Its all hypothetical airhead

[@ExperienceEric]

@@paulanthony5274 I think Tyson could possible beat 1970's Ali, but he would never land a punch on 1966 Ali.

[@davidlee3670]

@@paulanthony5274 i 500% agree Mr Paulus LInd it was a good 20mins but matey could have summed a Tyson v Ali fight in 1minute with all their skills and atributes Ali was far superior to Tyson in all his boxing atributes that make him the goat but me saying the whole discussion could have been solved in 1 minute being Tyson was good but of fragile mind Ali would have toyed with Tysons mind & phycy long before the 1st bell rang in the build up to the fight he would have broken Tyson in every which shape & form Tyson would have just been a shell entering the ring Tyson never ever dreamed of fighting & winning with the wholsale of talents Ali had 1 speed of hand & foot 2 Stamina unquestionable 3 Will to win unquestionable 4 warriors heart unquestionable 5 chin unquestionable 6 powers of recovery unquestionable 7 speed of combinations unquestionable 8 ring generalship unquestionable 9 ring I Q unquestionable 10 punch resistance to head & body unquestionable 11plan A B and even c top draw 12 coming back from adversity 13 only true Ali fans know this altho he is rated with so many boxing skills & atributes you never hear or read about his physical strength which he had in abundance especially you see it against Foreman Foreman was 1 of the strongest HW ever but if you study the fight you can see Ali man handle him also yes Foreman would unload on Ali against the ropes because Ali let him but when Ali wanted some space he would push Foreman off or back to unleash a quick combination at ease Ali also did that with Liston to a lesser extent both fighters were extreemly surprised at Ali strenghth & being able to man handle them but its never mentioned so as we say only a casual would pick Tyson over Ali i have put up in black & white about 15 traits that Ali was far superior than Tyson was how was Tyson ever gonna win now i am not a Tyson hater as grew up with him so will give him a slide & a bit of grace over 12rds i give Ali a UD but over 15ds i call a stoppage and hurtful at that buddy RIP CHAMP there is a reason they call Ali the goat of the HW division what these TYSON fan boys forget is Tyson wasnt even the best of his era let alone the best of all time these TYSON fanboys always go on about PRIME TYSON well that was about 1986 / 1989 well Ali fought and beat the best over an 18yr period about Ali beat the most intimidating HW ever in Liston had a few defences his title and world title status was taken away 3yr 7months in exile ( AND I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY ALI DIDNT TAKE THE BOXING COMMISION TO THE CLEANERS BUT THATS JUST ALI THE MAN HIS DRAFT ISSUES WERE WITH THE US GOVERNMENT NOT A BOXING ISSUE SO THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN HIS BOXING LICENCE ) so anyway 10yrs after Ali beat the monster Liston he again beats another formidable monster in Foreman a LIston Clone ha ha yet the TYSON fanboys try to dream of putting TYSON on the sme pedalstool its a joke To put the whole Tyson fanboys thing into perspective ALis 1st fight from a 3yr 7months exile was Quarry the NO1 contender who Ali stopped on cuts in 3rds now Quarry fought every body and that was the quickest he was stopped Now Tysons 1st fight back was Peter McNeeley basically a journey man who Don king had groomed as Tysons fall guy now about 6 months before Tyson fought him he was ranked about 20 but because of Kings influence all of a sudden before the Tyson fight he was ranked no7 Read between the lines fanboys lol

[@cockylockridge8644]

You guys could say whatever you'd like, but realistically we'd never know the real outcome, I could just as easily argue that Tyson was more formidable than both Frazier or Norton, both of who beat Ali, one of them in or at least near his prime.

[@boolanny]

I think a 19 yr old Mike beats Ali , even tho Ali was quick AF i just don't think it would be enough to keep Mike off him...any other Tyson, Ali beats him easily.

[@ministryoftruth8523]

Your statement "I'm never really confident of my choices" is what makes you a great analyst. You're always willing to see the opposite possibility with clarity. I'm slightly more confident that Ali would prevail, simply because he beat many great heavyweight champions during his career ( which I believe to be a true test of greatness). And among them were a mix of power punchers, fast punchers and stylists. His ring IQ is second to none. He would often sacrifice the early rounds and use them as an opportunity, in order to fully grasp his opponent's strategy for fighting him; because he seemed to understand that analysis of his opponents' earlier fights wasn't sufficient to fully understanding how they would approach Ali, personally. And Ali was never knocked out. I could go on forever, but I won't. That's just my humble opinion. Thanks for the content.

[@ponage1000]

I feel that Ali would’ve broke down Tyson, he’s just on a different level mentally, quickest hands, best recovery and endurance 🙏 in the face of greatness Tyson for sure would’ve broke down and gave up

[@THEASURA888]

lets not forget about his reach either 🤯🥶 Ali is just, godly.

[@dterm8526]

Agreed! Ali with that reach and jab! Forget about it

[@zach-iq9xy]

tyson had faster hands...........

[@theinformationbomber7102]

Hell naah Tyson Kos ali in 4 rounds max

[@briancamilli8873]

I agree with the mental aspect but I believe it didn't get a chance to develop with Tyson. His career was on the down slide after Spinks and he had a bunch of Don King YES men that pretty much told Tyson he was the best and just go in there and take em out. I think in this matchup with both in their prime and Tyson with Rooney in his corner this is a very competitive fight. One thing that Ali did was fight backing up and boxing and Tyson ate that style up. Thats why Frazier was very effective landing that left hook on Ali as Ali backed up jabbing. I still give Ali the edge because Ali would adjust tie up Tyson coming in the hit him with flurries on the break then do it all over again. Ali by split decision if 12 rounds, unanimous if 15 rounds

[@johnohill463]

D'Amato told Tyson that he would have had a very good chance against anyone in history but never against Ali in his prime.

[@AshG87-007]

Cus died before Tysons prime

[@bas6628]

Cus damato was the only one who believed that Ali would beat foreman. Cus was asked that foreman beat Norton and Frazier easily and his reply was "yea but those TWO aren't MUHAMMAD ALI!!!!!!".

[@isaiahr3111]

I love this dream fight series! Keep em' coming Rummy! Hagler vs Canelo? Leonard vs Mayweather? Frazier vs Tyson? ....

[@samautio6065]

Liston vs Holmes, Frazier vs Holyfield, so many great fantasy match ups to be made.

[@ExperienceEric]

How about Hagler vs Toney? WHAT A FIGHT that would have been.

[@kuhanblock9380]

I'd like Frazier vs Holyfield

[@danielhucky307]

I can help you there.. hagler beast Canelo, Leonard beats mayweather, Tyson beats Frazier

[@rizzmatic187]

Those are sum fire matchups !!!!

[@jacobfish8258]

Brilliant video. I've never see someone mention the attributes as fairly as you have with both of these men. I think it is important to note what could have been if Tyson had Rooney in his corner in a fight like this, or Ali's mind games during the build up and the actual fight against Mike's mind at the time. I think it's also important to add that Ali really struggled against Ken Norton's jab whenever he jabbed with Ali, which is something Mike Tyson did a lot when he was still with Rooney and cus. I completely agree with your call, however, I could see it swaying in either direction.

[@spirgtudsrubec7776]

Jacob Fish Ali was well past his prime in his fights against Norton, because of his long layoff and also Norton had a much longer reach than Tyson.

[@terryhaircastle5702]

The fairness of his analysis is what sets Rummy apart, for me

[@Secretasiandan1]

Id say, Tyson with cus, has a 50/50 shot against ali. Tyson with Don King loses within 5 rounds against ali.

[@buffalosowljah]

your right about the mind games of ali ,, he would also have done a rope a dope marrk 2 on mike ... theres one think for sure he wouldnt do a slugfest with him as tyson would come out stronger

[@OtomoTenzi]

If you've ever seen 'Thrilla In Manila', then you'd know that Ali's endurance and stamina have been tested to the MAX... There is just NO WAY that Mike (with his asthma problems) could possibly last that many rounds, and still be able to effectively land DYNAMITE BOMBS on Ali. Mike would absolutely have to KO Ali within the first 4 or 5 rounds, or he'll be too exhausted to keep up with Ali from coming back in the later rounds, and then eventually scoring enough points for a victory! 🤔

[@naslarra56]

Despite being the biggest Mike's fan, I must agree with you. Very close win for Ali. What about Mike Tyson vs. Big George? Thanks for your videos.

[@reginaldsmith6949]

I remember George saying he wanted no part of Tyson during his comeback. Not sure he could have dealt with Tyson's speed, but he may have had a chance if he could get him into the late rounds.

[@samautio6065]

Big George is too big and too strong, and a stylistic nightmare for tyson. He'd bounce him in a similar fashion as he did to Frazier. I believe that Mike knew that, that's why he stayed silent when George was calling him out.

[@stuartsutton9350]

Big George by ko both versions

[@BiggieBigLnPac]

Always thought Foreman would destroy Tyson based on the fraizer demolition, But fraizer was a slow starter, Took him 5 rounds just to get warmed up, Tyson was the total opposite, all out speed and power 100 miles per hour from the opening bell, think he might of been a bit too fast for big George.

[@dexocube]

Big George wins that I reckon, and for the same reasons he won against Frazier

[@SG-xe1mv]

We're missing an important element of the clash... The pre fight phycological war that Ali would use against Tyson. Ali would understand and exploit Tyson's insecurities better than anyone. He would get Tyson so angry with the name calling, the mocking, the public shaming that Tyson would forget his game plan. Granted, a super angry Tyson is not an appealing prospect to get in the ring with. But id wager that Ali would have all but won before he even got in the ring. Tyson would explode and lose all discipline. Ali would wait and then turn Tiger. It would be an awesome sight to see!

[@BlandBandit]

Psychological games wouldn't phase a young hungry Tyson. Plus having Cus as a mentor he knows how to be nothing but an assassin

[@leoncastro6714]

@@BlandBandit ya his mentor would probably ground him

[@SG-xe1mv]

@@BlandBandit Good point about Cus.

[@ensar2805]

It is known that psychological warfare did not work so well on tyson. It actually, most of the time, in turn fueled his fire. Did you not know the instance against michael spinks? He was punching holes trough the wall, saying "im gonna kill that mf"

[@catcancrunch7260]

This subject is very controversial, Mmmm Ali in his prime Mmm, he was so sharp, Liston would agree even though he took a dive second time, he definitely wanted death the first, I honestly think he would have just worked it out, stick n move, he had such a great brain and worked on strategies with all the monsters he fought and won, ???????

[@jamesasher63]

I think the best fights to look at to see how Mike would have faired against Ali are the Pinklon Thomas, Larry Holmes and Tyrell Biggs fights. He really really struggled to adjust to taller fighters with quick feet, a stiff and rapid jab and a great ability to wrap him up whenever he got too close. Ultimately his power lifted him out of trouble each time, but when you watch those early Biggs rounds before he abandons his gameplan you do wonder how a more disciplined and skilled fighter in Ali would have faired. Also, Ali had one hell of a chin that I don't believe Mike could have cracked.

[@Petterson2]

Just went and watched those fights again (full fights are on youtube). I don't think you're quite right. Tyson was by far the superior fighter in all of those fights. This is not saying he'd win Ali but he didn't have any trouble beating those three. He weared them down and knocked them out. If anything, you can see he was a much smarter and better boxer than his reputation. The real awesome thing with Mike is that with Kevin Rooney he went 35-0 (31 KO's) and never once got hurt at all. Evander Holyfield said that after firing Rooney Tyson went from unpredictable to predictable and he felt quite confident he could beat him then. His decline is easily seen when you watch his fights in chronological order. Of course the fame, money and cocaine played a big role too.

[@Destroythealliance]

@@Petterson2 In all honesty, I see a very beatable fighter in Tyson from 1985 to 1988. He looked vulnerable against Smith, Green, Tillis almost beat him, I had Tyson up by only 1 point against Tillis. These were b level fighters, so they couldn't take advantage.

[@jonjones7137]

@@Destroythealliance Tillis fought his rear end off and was very country strong. Mitchell Blood Green, Tony Tucker, and Tyrell Biggs were the prototype fights but Tyson easily beat those 2. Remeber in his prime he was only 19. Under Kevin Rooney he'd broke Ali' jaw easier than Norton did.

[@fivehundrediq5212]

@@Destroythealliance Are you stupid? Beating Tyson from 85-88 was Unstoppable, Asking who would beat Mike Tyson was like asking is there a God?

[@fivehundrediq5212]

@jamesasher63 Tyson Destroyed all three, just admit you’re an AliSexual

[@treystyles3760]

From a person close to boxing for over 30 years... Beautifully done! I agree with everything. I'd say Ali 52/48 chance.

[@brianrabideau687]

I been in boxing for 25 years and I think Tyson would body Ali by putting him in the corner and wailing his body and breaking him down even though Ali had a great figure nobody can handle Tyson body shots

[@ericsmith2390]

@@brianrabideau687 No sir Ali was the Bruce Lee of boxing, Mike Tyson jet LI respectfully or Jacky chan

[@bobbywise2313]

​@@brianrabideau687Ali would clench the few times he did get cornered. There is no way he would stay in the corner and take the shots.

[@ronniefoster9467]

Great video mate. I'm a big Ali and Tyson fan. As the saying goes though "a good boxer will always beat a good fighter'. Ask Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Williams, Norton and Shavers.

[@Alex-trl]

Damn you started off with a small dream fight I see. I believe Ali with his footwork intact would be too much for Mike, I personally think it would be a quite one sided fight until a late KO or just a UD in Ali's favor

[@lamarsibert4575]

If it is the version of Mike Tyson that is train by Kevin Rooney. I'm picking Tyson. That version of Mike Tyson would have the only shot against prime Ali.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Yeah Mike Tyson when Rooney was training him (and more so if Cus D'Amato was still alive) was an absolute monster. The Tyson that lost to Douglas would've lost in one or two rounds to his past self. Whoever won Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali would have been an astonishing fight.

[@ruddiato]

I agree

[@DW-nb2zc]

Jesus Christ himself training Tyson would not beat a prime Ali(Clay)

[@SuperPrince1007]

Lamar, you're 100% right on the money. Here's a great analysis, the 1985 Chicago Bears were the Greatest NFL Team of all time. In that one year, especially in the playoffs, no NFL Team in history would've beaten them. I feel the same way about the 1986-89 Kevin Rooney trained Mike Tyson. AFTER 1989 Muhammad Ali would beat that Mike Tyson, hands down.

[@frankfrega1302]

Ali defeating foreman n liston is more impressive than all of Tyson's victories combined. No way anyone can argue that

[@johnf120]

80-90% chance prime Ali wins, 10-20% chance prime Tyson wins. For me, it all comes down to Ali’s ability to take hard punches. Just look at the damage he took from Foreman and Shavers without touching the canvas. And even the few times he got dropped, like when Frazier scored a picture perfect knockdown, Ali got up immediately. Without an unlikely KO, I can’t see Tyson winning. As great a boxer as he was, I doubt he would beat the greatest on points.

[@matthewmea3566]

yeah, tyson was fantastic at slipping in and landing punches against defensive people but ali was known for being great at defending against those fighters. with that it would kind of balance out and tyson would be getting some hits in but ali doesn't go down easily so it would be left up to being a stamina battle and then ali would win.

[@sockinvaders]

No human on earth, past, current or future - can survive tysons hardest uppercuts. He didn't just beat people like Ali did. He destroyed them in a matter of seconds. He disfigured them. One guy he knocked his teeth out. The angle he gets his punches in makes them beyond devastating.

[@puppyendorsement3314]

@@sockinvaders "no human on earth, past, current or future can survive tysons hardest uppercuts" bruh you forget about buster douglas or smthing

[@paulgray2883]

Tyson in his prime would beat anyone. The way he moved his head and avoided the jab was unreal.

[@adventureswithgrunt]

Don't forget Ali's trash talk before and during the fight. "Is that all you got George?" Bully Tyson might get broken down mentally.

[@daveyboy_]

Not in Tyson's prime . He had a great support system with Rooney.

[@boxer7863]

@KHABIB ** TIME he didn't train for that fight he was party and sht prime Tyson was from 85 89

[@samautio6065]

@@boxer7863 he did train for that fight, but those who believe in the hype of their own invincibility tend to come up with excuses when they're beaten. Tyson simply lost to the better boxer on the night.

[@doom6992]

@KHABIB ** TIME He said with Rooney He was not in that fight

[@HamzaKhan-te2sj]

@KHABIB ** TIME That was not his prime. He was past that. Gave up Rooney by then

[@trankos2367]

do Golovkin vs Pirog, or Chavez vs chava Sanchez

[@EFCkingTom]

Pirog vs GGG is a dream middleweight fight. I think Pirog could have outboxed him for 12. Just based on how he handled Danny Jacobs in comparison to Golovkin.

[@J.D.1.]

Both are fighters history will forget. Pirog only won a WBO ffs. GGG is just good middleweight champion but not one who will be listed amongst the greats

[@shanechristian2253]

Ali is the Greatest Heavyweight boxer of All Times!

[@retroman--]

lol no

[@ZBOXINGTALK]

@@retroman-- Who is then? Ali beat everyone.

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@ZBOXINGTALK only Joe Louis can give him a run for his money.

[@paoloalcantara2465]

No

[@johnwalters5410]

Audrey Harrison for me.

[@davestone2939]

Tyson in his prime (20yrs of age) was too fast, too powerful and too elusive for any heavy weight in history in my opinion. The GOAT, even though his prime only lasted a couple of years. Lack of dediction and discipline ended what could have been a long lasting legacy of world heavyweight domination. Amazing concidering Tysons lack of size.

[@ziggyc4474]

Yuuuup Tyson was an Animal his movement was too fast his punch power and fast hands forget about it ,after losing dedication and getting in trouble by the law he was not the same .

[@shaf811]

Also, Mike Tyson was the first undisputed heavyweight champion to unify all three alphabet titles.

[@brianschmidt8266]

An important, if not the most important consideration, is if Cus D’amato is coaching a prime Tyson. When Cus died, he took a large piece of Tyson with him - the relentless focus, discipline and tactics. Prime Tyson with Cus at his side probably wins as it is well established that Cus had sorted out Ali’s style and Frazier’s approach was the right style. Mike has the a similar style to Frazier with appreciably more speed, power, agility, skill and reflexes. That combined with coaching from Cus which would keep mike focused, prepared and driven wins. Ali fought fighters as strong (and stronger than Tyson) but they weren’t as fast and agile. Ali fought fast agile fighters but they didn’t have the power of Tyson. Prime motivated and focused Tyson is a stylistic nightmare for Ali.

[@DK3CHAMP]

My take. Ali fought Floyd Patterson. Patterson had the same Peek a Boo style that Tyson has. Ali easily won both fights against Patterson. Having said that, Tyson has soooooo much more power than Patterson. So, this is how I envision a fight between the two. A 60s Ali would see Tyson and just do the same game plan he had with Patterson, but eventually Tyson would knock Ali down. Ali would then get serious and stop clowning around, and I think he would easily beat Tyson. Having said that, I do believe Tyson could beat a 70s Ali. Ali simply fought too much in close quarters in the 70s. If Ali tried the same trick he did with Foreman, Tyson would absolutely destroy Ali. While Foreman had a very strong punch, Tyson was quicker, and throw in a barrage of punches that I think would simply be too much for Ali. So, in short. A 60s Ali beats an 80s Tyson, but an 80s Tyson beats a 70s Ali.

[@trebleclef46]

60s Ali was without doubt ..the Prime Ali. As you say..he would beat prime Tyson. Tyson was beaten twice by Holyfield..and while a good champion..he was not anywhere near Ali's class. I cannot see how even the most enthused Tyson fans could think Tyson could win.

[@TripSe7en_77]

But does a 90’s Tyson beat a 70’s Ali? If we’re going to advance Ali’s age we may as well advance Tyson’s too to keep it fair. I think a 90’s Tyson meets the same fate against a 70’s Ali that an 80’s Tyson does against a 60’s Ali.

[@radagem]

great explanation. thanks for sharing.

[@camborocks]

I'm not so sure. Ali in his 30s was wiser and more durable. Tyson after the first few rounds would fight in spurts and slow his volume to preserve energy.

[@ascendantking2178]

I agree on that last statement

[@seadubbya9209]

Wonderfully done video sir. I'm one of those who say, the Ali from `74-`77 made him a legend, but the Ali from `64-`67 is near unbeatable. Only a few heavyweights in history even give that version of Ali a competitive bout. I'm not sure Tyson is one of them. I'm feeling like Tyson has a moment here and there but Ali wins an easy UD. I've never really thought about Tokyo Douglas vs Fight of the Century Frazier. That could be the undercard. Heck yeah I'd buy that PPV.

[@ahkenaten522]

Tyson is a better boxer than you think

[@coreyham3753]

Agreed .. Ali 64-67 was unbeatable.

[@spirgtudsrubec7776]

Douglas would not have been able to cope with Joe Frazier.

[@handzofstone1152]

@@spirgtudsrubec7776 That's facts. Not to take away from Douglas's masterclass performance, but Frazier was a true all-time great who had the skillset and tools to beat the vast majority of boxers who ever existed. The Joe Frazier from the FOTC was also at his absolute peak. Douglas on the other hand, while his performance was inspirational, was just an example of the stars aligning perfectly for a fighter. He trained super hard and had that added motivation from his mother dying, while Tyson under trained and didn't take the fight seriously. Joe was just relentless. He wouldn't have slowed down as the fight progressed, but instead would've kept getting better and smothering Douglas while smashing him with hooks to the head and body. He also wouldn't have let him off the hook once he had him hurt.

[@brucescott4261]

@seadubbya9209 ...Ali won every fight from 1960 to 1967.

[@davidharrison3399]

I think in reality Bowe v Tyson, should be the next discussion. Who would of won that one ? I would go for Ali, he fought when it was 15 rounds, way better engine. Smoking Joe was in his prime when he fought Ali in his first fight , Ali was coming back from a lay off of two years or so.The two fights after Ali beat Smoking Joe .

[@thejmc4074]

I came into this video thinking Ali gets a convincing late stoppage. I still feel the same.

[@DannyCosmos]

i think tyson would win the first fight. but ali wins the rematch.

[@ChonoIsland]

no

[@slidecounter5813]

Definitely Ali too agile & granted chin plus his jab & distance control would of been very frustrating for Tyson

[@thegoat6116]

Ali would've schooled mike, and might even stop him in the later rounds.

[@johnwalters5410]

Great video as always! Ali also outpointed Earnie Shavers, who many regard as perhaps the hardest puncher in boxing history, in 1977 when Ali was extremely shopworn & may have been in the very early stages of Parkinson’s. The late flurries from Ali in that fight were incredible considering all this. Overall, I would tend to agree with Rummy’s assessment that Ali wins on points, only I think that I would be a little more confident than Rummy, but not by much. Very intriguing match-up!

[@bearxbunny1835]

Earnie Shavers had a glass jaw though...... He had a significantly harder punch than Tyson, but that is it. Tyson could actually take a beating too which is something he never gets enough credit for. I believe the Tyson before he was champion, the hungry Tyson couldn't be stopped by anyone, especially when Cus was still alive

[@ascendantking2178]

I agree that earnie shavers win was very impressive considering ali was shot physically at that point. Yet he showed pure heart and outboxed earnie late with good stamina and counterpunching

[@antoniomosley9410]

@@bearxbunny1835 I somewhat disagree about Shavers have a glass jaw, he took flush punches from Holmes and Tiger Williams who Ali stated rivaling Foreman when it comes to punching power, but Ali never took a flush punch to the chin from Foreman so interrupt it how you want.

[@ZBOXINGTALK]

That was a great win for Ali for sure, and that 15th round rally was amazing to see from Ali, who was no where near his best, but Tyson had a better chin, reflexes and speed than Shavers.

[@brianlawson4368]

@@bearxbunny1835 I agree, the 19-20 years old Tyson, at the height of his peak a boo style, was just unstoppable.

[@oldenyz3148]

In my humble opinion this is not the dream matchup many think it is and here's why; 1.To your point Ali would need to disrupt Tyson's rythem to win...well we've seen 2 guys do that 1 who was obviously a proverbial 1 hit wonder in Buster Douglas and the other a veteran boxer who was relentless in Evander Holyfield (twice) neither of which is a better boxer than Ali. (Holyfield was nearly as relentless). 2. Though some say Tyson was past his prime when he fought Holyfield, he may have been but he was only in his late 20s- 30 and Holyfield was actually older. 3. This would suggest the timing or "prime " timing for Tyson would have to be perfect maybe his early 20s? Either way Tyson's prime was very short lived. 4. As you've mentioned here and I've mentioned many times if Tyson can't intimidate his opponent he either lost or had a very tough time. There is no way he intimidates Ali. 5. I think there are many years of Ali's career that he would prevail against Tyson whereas I suppose Tyson would have a chance at his "perfect" age otherwise its really a mismatch.

[@ict113090]

Personally my vote goes to iron Mike. Ali’s flow and style wouldn’t have made it easy, but I do think Tyson would find a way to back him in a corner and get a few match ending consecutive blows that Ali wouldn’t be able to box his way out of.

[@brucescott4261]

Ian Thomas ...False!

[@Gerbildo123456789]

How many times did you see Ali receiving ''a few match ending consecutive blows'' ? Prime Ali is untouchable!

[@retroman--]

Tyson would KO ali. Tyson in his prime was when he was very young, fast, powerful , awesome chin, endurance etc...

[@davidlee3670]

Tyson in his prime couldnt stop tillis green tucker & smith Ali was 10 times the boxer they were in all departments how can you invisage an Ali being KOd ?

[@mdluk199]

@@davidlee3670 Cooper and Frazier put him down - Prime Tyson would beat these 2 comfortably

[@SJ-ty5rw]

@@davidlee3670 I have always agreed with this too . People say Tyson would Ko Ali , but don't stop and think Tillis and Tucker .. survived with a prime Tyson with Rooney . And neither of them had the ring movement Ali had or the chin . Tillis was basically a copy of Ali with half the talent and wasn't ko'd .

[@comabatcameraman]

Name one, great, in-prime HW Tyson beat. Just one.

[@jahqayburnett7736]

Liston couldn't do it Foreman couldn't do it Shavere couldn't do it Tyson wouldn't come close to knocking out Ali Ali was to active for all that if he was standing still maybe but his head movement and footwork alone will beat Tyson he probably don't even have to land nothing

[@punitchoudhary652]

"Every head must bow and every tongue must confess, Ali is the greatest of all time"

[@brianjackson3031]

Blasphemy

[@georgevincent1834]

Ali is the most overhyped and greatest self promoter of all time.

[@JabboMCmuffin]

@@georgevincent1834 Mike Tyson disagrees.

[@arjunakorale8103]

@Canmanifyoucan 67 YES! And Tyson beat zero great heavyweights…oh, sorry, Ty beat an old, tired, just out of retirement Larry Holmes. Nuff said.

[@smokinjoe4684]

Yeah, he was very humble. I have prime Tyson winning.

[@shropsiberian]

If James 'Bonecrusher' Smith & Tony Tucker could drag a peak Tyson to a points loss, then Ali could've handled him all day. Too fast, too clever 👍🏻

[@scottfisher661]

Couldn’t have said it any better

[@30over3]

If 180 lb light heavyweight Henry Cooper had Angelo Dundee reaching for smelling salts to revive Ali between rounds, imagine what a left hook from 220 lbs Mike Tyson would do to Ali?

[@scottfisher661]

@@cliffordheywood8997 the most uneducated comment I've ever seen

[@StonyStevenson75]

@@scottfisher661 Another one ignoring Ali's excessive clinching..

[@Destroythealliance]

I Grew up on Tyson, but Ali has the better resume by far. If you know boxing, it's obvious who would give Tyson fits. Boxing ability, chin, stamina, Holyfield anyone? Ali fits the description. A prime Holmes beats Tyson as well. Jab Jab Jab

[@boxingbeast803]

I got Ali, too much heart and soul. The good guy always wins in my fairytales.

[@tarmac1697]

Never got to see Ali in his prime, he was getting better and filling out while getting his man strength. When he was stripped and out of the ring for 43 months.

[@JohnnyCage333]

Iron Mike Tyson would definitely understand this. When Tyson went to prison he did not fight for over 4 years. June 1991 to August 1995. It's criminal the fights that we missed with Tyson over those 4 years.

[@OtomoTenzi]

@@JohnnyCage333 Yeargh dude, I really wanted to see Tyson vs Morrison back in '91... 😞

[@kencusick6311]

Ali had the best chin in heavyweight history. He was the hardest boxer to hit in heavyweight history. He may have been the smartest fighter in heavyweight history. Tyson has the the big punchers chance. But Ali proved over and over he could take the biggest punches and still win. Would be a great fight but Ali wins it.

[@mdluk199]

Is that why he got sparked by Henry Cooper who weighed little more than a modern day super-middleweight

[@nicholasm7822]

Ali the hardest puncher in heavyweight history? Where do you get that? He's quick, great ring IQ, and maybe the greatest heavyweight outside fighter of all time, but I can't see him punching harder than Louis, or Tyson for that matter.

[@kencusick6311]

@@nicholasm7822 I said he was the hardest boxer to hit. Not that he hit the hardest.

[@kencusick6311]

@@mdluk199 cooper had a terrific left hook and he drilled Ali on his ass with it. But he still got up and won.

[@Kembo-h3r]

@@mdluk199 Ali was technically a cruiser weight, 200 lbs and 100% respect to Cooper he clipped Ali and Ali didn't catch it. It came by surprise too. Still won in typical Ali fashion.

[@ramlangoddos4425]

This is why I like watching Rummy's Corner, with his incisive and in-depth analyses.

[@MichaelLaing71]

I am going to say that 7-8 times out of 10 I think Ali wins, I just think with his generally speed, adaptability and chin, he wins but Tyson was a beast early and if he can catch him early enough, then he stands a chance of knocking Ali out but generally Ali's fighting I.Q. will be too much.

[@steveetienne]

Completely agree.

[@shanecordova6970]

Ali in his prime his ability to disrupt attacks really is intriguing to me I think in that kind of fight Tyson was a savage in his mind but Ali was Smart and strong of mind i think Ali could give Tyson a fight he never had fought and I think the smart mental toughness of Ali would overcome Tyson animal savagery! But DAMN IF I WOULDNT PAY 500$ to see it!

[@DoggieNYC]

Great comment. Ali's ability to dive in, hit his opponent with 4 or 5 shots and jump back out was uncanny, especially when he was young. He was a sick athlete. My nod goes to Ali all day.

[@DoggieNYC]

And yes I'd pay big bucks to see.

[@jasonmunro1983]

Great breakdown of both fighters.. I believe Tyson would win maybe by decision

[@HitchcockJr985]

Ali takes it imo because Ali has been hit by guys who hit hard like Liston and Forman and Tyson would gas out late rounds

[@Skovgaard1975]

No one has ragdolled people like Tyson did, no matter if other boxers hit harder on paper.

[@Narration___Nation]

Tyson was powerful but not as powerful as shavers or Forman. But he was better defence and speed

[@SCAPEGOAT316]

I’ve been waiting for you to make this video for a long time, Rummy!

[@Strathaczar]

The biggest "What if" in boxing history... I heard this all the time growing up in the 80s. It was always a topic at my dinner table.

[@johnfarrell9484]

It used to nearly start a punch up at our dinner table.

[@Mallsio]

Tyson got robbed he never lost against Douglas The ref gave buster a few extra seconds to get up at the 8 count It’s bullshit

[@downtownsportsanatomy1631]

I think the opposite than most of you. I tho k Tyson would have knocked out a young Ali (Clay) and he would have lost from 70s Ali who was more experienced and he had improved his defensive skills than 60s the version.

[@matthewsagor6038]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Floyd Patterson in this hypothetical match up, also trained by D'Amato. Ali boxed circles around him following the Liston dualogy. Although I agree that even with picking Ali to win I wouldn't bet money on it. Watching a lot of Frazier's fights, I see a lot of body-head combos that feel very "proto-Tyson" D'Amato was almost certain to have been taking notes when teaching Tyson.

[@NyangisKhan]

The thing is that Mike Tyson's biggest weapon against Ali is his left hook which was actually used by Sugar Ray Leonard to hurt Tommy Hearns in the 5th round of their 2nd fight. So I really recommend watching the 5th round of that fight as Ray Leonard basically becomes Mike while Hearns becomes Ali. And funny enough Hearns had problems against fighters with a strong left hook just like his idol Ali. Also Mike's hook is more of a rear left hook because of the positioning of his front leg so it will have way more power than Frazier's so if it lands it'll definitely hurt Ali. Especially the young Ali which was actually 11 pounds lighter than his counterpart which faced Frazier so his durability against punches would significantly decrease. So *if* Mike lands that hook, there's a good chance that Ali's going down whether it be the body or the chi.

[@ponage1000]

Floyd had a broken back during those fights, unfortunate we couldn’t see them both at their best especially considering the crazy similarities between Tyson and Floyd.

[@ReservoirPunk]

@@ponage1000 Was it spinal?

[@naeemislam1105]

difference is tyson is much larger than pattison and much more ferocious and powerful

[@hassanx9423]

Funnily enough, Holmes, Thomas and Tyrell Biggs fought exactly like Ali and Tyson fought only 70% like Patterson… Holmes, Thomas and Biggs were all knockout victims of Tyson.

[@SilverSmurphy]

Prime Ali as in 1966-1967 Ali? I would favour Ali. He didn't get touched during that time. The only trouble he had was Mildenberger because he was a southpaw which he quickly adapted too. 15 rounds would be hell Tyson and he would get stopped late by Ali. Comeback Ali was as durable as they come. We didn't really know how durable Ali was in his prime as he didn't get touched. I don't believe he was as durable as he become though as the reason he became so durable was because and learn't when to go flat footed and plant his feet to take a punch better. Ali has got dropped 3 times all by left hooks and Mike's left hook is murder but the first 2 was when he was young and didn't even train for the cooper fight as he tried his best to show prefight and Frazier got a nuclear left hook and was at the start of Ali's comeback in the 15th round of a grueling fight and yet his stood up in like 3 seconds. Furthermoore he took all Shavers had to offer when he was way past it. You cant KO Ali and Mike isn't winning a decision.

[@arjunakorale8103]

Exactly. If anything it boils down to the chin factor. Ali was never close to getting knocked out. Tyson tasted KO defeats, time & time again.

[@ChrisWolff2013]

This would've been, without questions, the hugest boxing fight of all time. Like stadium-sized huge.

[@J.D.1.]

There's been loads of fight in stadiums

[@Jim_Jones_Guyana]

25 million PPV buys 😊

[@domenickparris1898]

Great analysis, fantastic commentating. Coming off of the subject line, I saw Frazier pull a beautiful move around the 13:11 mark. He reached out and hooked Ali's arms with his and pulled him towards his range to go back on the attack. That was damn good ring IQ.

[@chrispowers627]

Damn good breakdown. I will always lean on the side of Tyson bc he was stronger and faster. Just like today's heavyweights are bigger and stronger than the previous generation. Just don't think a young Ali could handle Tysons man strength at the same age. I will say though I do believe Ali had a better chance in the later rounds than Tyson due to stamina.

[@bretto_23]

But you forget who Ali fought,look at those boxers he took on,that was boxing's era. Look who tyson fought lol,tyson could dish em but couldn't take em,just look at Douglas,Holyfied and Lewis what they did to tyson. As for Ali im pretty sure he can handle anyone's punches. Never seen another boxer take what Ali took.

[@TheSBleeder]

Tyson wasn't stronger or faster.

[@cipaisone]

Tyson would have annihilated Ali. Already joe Frazier, a much worse, yet similar in style to Tyson, gave Ali nightmares…I would imagine Ali trying to resist and getting severely punished, KO in the 4-6.

[@BadselS]

The thing is - Tyson has no heart compared to Ali. Ali was ready to die inside the ring. As soon as Tyson started failing during fight, he gave up.

[@Skovgaard1975]

He showed plenty heart against Rudduck in two fights. That was even past prime as far as I remember.

[@arjunakorale8103]

100% ACCURATE COMMENT.

[@abrahamramirez3980]

Would you consider 90s George Foreman vs Tyson Fury?! I've seen it discussed a bunch on social media and it was a lot more of a heated debate than I would have thought.

[@jonathanblaze1648]

Ali would KO Mike in the 7th or 8th round. Ali is too fast and clever for Iron Mike. Mike would land 1 or 2 very good shots in the first 4 rounds but nothing more. Mike's chin was suspect and so was his heart. He would be demoralized by the constant beatdown he would suffer in rounds 4,5 and 6. And would be looking for an exit which Ali would give him by KO in the 7th or 8th. P.S. A major flaw in this comparison is that Mike was in his prime when he got KO'd by Douglas. Whereas Ali was nowhere near his prime against Frazier.

[@kirkstmoritz4762]

I think Mike Tyson would win Muhammad Ali, no one could go many rounds, because of the sheer power, of MT, Mike Tyson had 58 fights - 211 rounds, whilst Muhammad Ali had 56 fights - 541 rounds, the stats prove Mike was a force to be reckoned with, where as Muhammad Ali was more of a strategic fighter, very fast waiting for his chance to finish the fight, he was very calculated, but I think MT brute strength would get the better of him.

[@MrSoggyjocks]

Never hear anyone point out that Frazier was essentially blind in his left eye for much of his career. To take Ali to the limit over 3 fights with one eye, imagine if he had 2 and the depth perception that comes with that.

[@kuhanblock9380]

He would've finished the third fight if he had better sight. Probably would've got a knockdown too since Ali was exhausted unless he barrels into the ropes to keep him upright

[@youtoo2233]

@@kuhanblock9380 no, by the end of the fight Frazier had no power left and it was nothing but slaps, no way he would knock Ali down in Manila, Ali's will to win was unsurpassed by the time of their third fight, it was obvious he'd rather die than lose to Frazier. Tyson didn't have the will to win like Ali and Frazier did. I think Frazier would have murdered Tyson's body and would have had Tyson on the floor by the middle rounds. Ali's swift hands in the Wepner fight would've given Tyson fits

[@davidvarey894]

Ali was way past it

[@MonkeyDToniProductions]

@@youtoo2233 And I think that Tyson would have won against Frazier

[@MikeSmith-ym9eq]

@@youtoo2233 No. In Frazier-Ali III, Ali gave up, but his corner didn’t. Contrarily, Frazier wanted to continue, but his corner threw in the towel. Ali’s corner said, “If Frazier stands up, we’ll throw in the towel.”

[@ZBOXINGTALK]

In terms of fantasy fights, the biggest fight in boxing history.

[@kevindavidge]

Both these guys in their prime were awesome. I think Tyson would have got the better of the early rounds with his aggression and might have even knocked Ali down. But Ali always gets back up! I think Ali would have started to find the target by about round 4 or 5 then dominate the later rounds with Tyson still having his moments though. Ali might have forced a late stoppage or won on points. Ali would have been just that little bit more elusive, smart, cunning and accurate with his punches. Ali would have had a much stronger desire than Tyson to win a tough fight. Great video and enjoyable to watch.

[@carlstark6857]

Spot on 👍

[@darealgodzilla]

Lets hear both of them on this subject: Tyson: "Man, Ali! Ali is a legend. I learned so much from watching his videos. He´s got a good jab, great stamina and a fantastic fight-game. No way, I could ever beat him!" Ali: "I´M THE GREATEST !"

[@franksanginiti8232]

If you watch Tyson fight those fighters who fought like Ali left jabs, Tyson Easily got to them, even Ali said he didn't have the punching power to keep Tyson from getting to him, Ali said Tyson would have knocked him out. Ali said marciano was better than Frazer ,and it could have went either way, marciano could have put on 15 extra pounds and came in at 205 about the same weight as Frazier, not only would Tyson but marciano also had a great fight with Ali, Ali was the greatest boxer and Tyson was the greatest puncher and don't count marciano out either.

[@JOHNROBERTCRUZ]

In my opinion... REMEMBER ALL HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER KNOW... Prime 60's Ali beats Tyson 80's... TYSON 80's beats ALI 1975 to 1977...PS - Remember 2 fighters gave Ali problems Frazier and Norton...And TYSON 80'S WAS SOMEWHAT OF A STYLE SIMULARITY TO BOTH...BUT MUCH...MUCH...ELUSIVELY BETTER...THAT ELUSIVITY WOULD HAVE SET UP AT LEAST A TKO KNOCKOUT...PPS - One of the reasons Mike lost to Douglas was partying the night before with Bobby Brown with chicks...as well as...he was screwing with chambermaids...during his training...Remember what Mickey said in Rocky...WOMEN WEAKEN LEGS !

[@omt-youtube]

I remember such a conversation about a dream fight between Ali and Tyson years ago in a pub, and my drunk friend was convinced, that Tyson would knock Ali out. And this is what a lot of younger boxing fans are saying, who are more influenced by the popularity of Tyson. I am not sure, if we should take the first Frazier fight as a reference how Ali would do against Tyson, because this was his third fight after a 3 years absence. The second fight is a better indication, where we see, how Ali could hold a freak of nature in distance. Where Tyson is different than Frazier is, Frazier is unbreakable (as long as you are not Foreman) but Tyson is fragile. And if we consider, that Ali is unbreakable as well, Ali would break Tyson somwhere between round 7-10. It is very comperable with the Foreman fight. There is one thing that Tyson said about Ali which is cruicial: "Ali was a t-rex in the ring and he was ready to die there. I was not." And it is this determination of Ali, that would bring him the victory. The fight will be like this: Tyson will cause problems to Ali in the first 4 rounds, Ali will adjust to Tysons style and will mock on him while the fight, Tyson will slow down after 5 and will get frustrated, Ali will catch him after that. Tyson will not go the distance. TKO Ali round 9 ;-)

[@paoloalcantara2465]

Yes I agree. Frazier always ended a fight still standing up. Even in defeat.

[@ExperienceEric]

I think 1960's Ali frustrates and beat Tyson with and easy decision. 70's Ali might have lost because he was much easier to hit. 1966 Ali was practically unhittable.

[@Skovgaard1975]

If Mike was to fragile why did he not break in the two Rudduck fights?

[@dyschromotopia]

Ali was the greatest of his era, but he would not fair well against his modern day counterparts........LL, EH, MT, & maybe RB would all have been too much for ali.

[@kooroshrostami27]

I agree, Tyson had that typical puncher's bully mentality, as did the early Foreman. They would get frustrated and thrown off when they couldn't have their way early, left without a plan B. Tyson did not handle adversity well at all, the Buster Douglas and Holyfield fights clearly show that he couldn't adapt to well when plan A didn't work. Frazier on the other hand was unbreakable, even if he lost the first half of the fight, he would not be deterred and keep going strong. Facing Ali, I think Tyson would fall victim to his own frustration.

[@marquismorris1548]

Ali hit hard very underestimated kod prime Foreman. Tyson always lost when backed up and hurt. Fight would be competitive. Ali's x factors is heart and finding a way to win .

[@Skovgaard1975]

Foreman gassed himself out.

[@arjunakorale8103]

Yes, Ali always found a way to win (except with Ken Norton but Ken’s boxing style was completely different from Mike’s). And, yes, Tyson didn’t have the greatest heart when things weren’t going his way. Hell, when things weren’t going his way, Tyson always lost. Then counter in stamina, chin & ring intelligence/generalship, and I can only see it going one way.

[@brocklanders3616]

Razor hit him with plenty of bombs, and kept fighting and stopping him once and outpointing him in the other

[@marquismorris1548]

@@brocklanders3616 Razor didn't use his JAB well enough. Tyson defense makes it hard to hit him flush. Then he counters. Razor had his chances

[@russw3736]

Impossible to say with any certainty, but I say Ali would be too elusive in the early rounds and would be too quick with the jab. Tyson was in terrible shape against Douglas but he showed the best way to beat Tyson. Once it gets past round 5 it's Ali on points for me.

[@arjunakorale8103]

Ali by stoppage or tko for me in rounds 11, 12 or 13. There is little chance that Tyson would have lasted 15 rounds with Ali. Tyson didn’t have Joe Frazier’s stamina or heart/determination.

[@44utuber]

Fantastic breakdown. For me, prime Ali was definitely in that era before his time off. I would specifically take the freshly turned 25 year old Ali that punished Earnie Terrell for 15 rounds in Feb. 1967 in this fantasy matchup. Interestingly, Tyson’s prime was rather young too since they both relied on speed so much and had years off. I would take the Tyson who unified the belts with his obliteration of Michael Spinks in Jun. 1988 a couple days away from turning 22. Tyson has also said his prime was at 22. After this fight, Tyson lost any connection to his original motivation Cus with the firing of Kevin Rooney and really never trained or was the same again. He has stated after prison he lost the love he had for the sport as well. As you stated this a dream fight and clash of styles. I believe on these two nights these might be the greatest heavyweights of all time. The comparison of Tyson to Fraizer is a strong one, specifically their stature, swarming style, and both of their powerful left-hooks. For Tyson, this punch would be a great equalizer against Ali, whose tendency to keep his hands down resulted in his only 3 knockdowns coming to the left hook, the last against Frazier in ‘71. However, Tyson never fought someone with the hand speed and footwork of prime Ali and the question is could he get inside of Muhammad who was never seriously touched in his prime (64-67). I definitely agree with your key for Tyson is to get off to a quick start, make Ali respect his power and try to get an early stoppage. It would be interesting to see if Ali could deal with the peek-a-boo style and speed of Tyson while keeping his hands down and dancing like he did in his prime. However, Ali showed later in his career he had the ability to change styles to match his opponent against Foreman with the rope-a-dope while Tyson really only fought one way and if it didn’t work early against great competition (Douglas that night, Holyfield, Lewis) he tended to get discouraged. I concur the longer the fight goes, the more it favors Ali, and the distinction between this fantasy matchup being 12 or 15 rounds is important. I think Ali’s mental toughness and boxing IQ would begin to frustrate Tyson, if he was able to keep Tyson on the outside, dance and use his height and reach advantages to pop the jab. If I had to choose I would probably also take Ali by a decision, especially if it went 15. However, an early to mid-round stoppage by Tyson would be entirely possible. Long comment but two of my favorite fighters of all time. Great video again!

[@shepchester3567]

I think you've summed things up quite nicely. But I still have a gut feeling, Tyson would win.

[@brucescott4261]

@@shepchester3567 ...Tyson would have never defeated Ali, PERIOD!!!

[@antonioridah172]

Ali was in awesome shape 15 rounds I love Mike Tyson we call him the bum killer in my Hood but he never beats elite fighters and lose to buster Douglas who can't come close to the Goat Ali 💯

[@SlimPlum691]

Dude did you read my mind? I was literally just thinking about this yesterday! My uncle and I talk about this all the time. He says prime Tyson is unbeatable. I think Ali could have beaten any boxer in history. I love both of them of course but Ali had more heart and ring iq imo. Also, I don’t think Ali would have been intimidated by Tyson. He faced and ko’d a prime George Foreman so I don’t see him getting shook by anyone. Anyway, great video Rummy!

[@Narration___Nation]

Ur uncle is right

[@pastorkoger1350]

I’m First!!! Love Rummy’s Corner!

[@tobylerone8416]

Can you imagine prime Ali getting beaten up by Buster Douglas like prime Tyson did ? Me either.

[@Skovgaard1975]

Tyson was past prime at that time. Remember prime is not just about age. It's mental as well.

[@arjunakorale8103]

Beautiful comment!

[@verdi8325]

@@Skovgaard1975 was he prime when going the distance with lower tier fighters like Ribalta, Ruddock, Smith and Tillis? Fighters that so many others stopped early?

[@jahqayburnett7736]

😂😂

[@brucescott4261]

@@Skovgaard1975 ...At twenty-three? Get real, and knock it off!!!

[@davidmaez7253]

Ali would have made Tyson quit in my opinion. A prime Ali was fast and had just enough pop to keep you honest. His movement would have drove Tyson crazy.

[@brucescott4261]

Cus D'Amato told Michael Gerard Tyson that he would have never defeated Ali, PERIOD!!!

[@danhoppy5517]

Great seeing Kevin Rooney in the corner for Tyson. That was a dream match. Never mind Ali vs. Tyson, what about Frazier vs. Tyson?

[@jamesvalvis1131]

Ali had the better career and better fights, but no one had a better prime than Tyson. It probably only lasted 3 years but no one, including Clay/Ali, could have beaten Iron Mike between 1985 to just after he married Givens. Clay would have had two choices, dance and run until Tyson won a unanimous decision or get knocked out fast. Ali was savvy enough to dance as a later boxer, but not as a brash younger boxer in his prime. Tyson in Round 3.

[@Skovgaard1975]

THIS GUY IS CORRECT !!!! Maybe not as soon as round 3 though.

[@idktbh5791]

i feel ur analysis is just too biased for tyson. Ali just has the better resume, was more gifted, and had more heart. He fought more styles, He had a better chin and fought even harder punchers. Fraizer was in his prime or nearing it while Ali was already seen to be out of it. But when Ali danced, he dominated Frazier until his stamina had given out.

[@rebjimj.e.4119]

i agree

[@jamesvalvis1131]

@@idktbh5791 I'm sorry, but in Ali's prime he was floored by a number of boxers, not least of which was Henry Cooper, an English boxer who had a 27-9-1 record when he faced Ali and went on to have a 40-14 career record. Not a chump, but not exactly a guy who should have floored "The Greatest" and would have beaten him if not for the fight being stopped (controversially) because of a cut. This is supposedly the better chin? Floyd Patterson would knock Cooper out a few months later in Round 4. He faced harder hitters? How do you know? Did you get in the ring with any of them? More gifted? More heart? Says who? The media? BS on them. They just like his politics. Ali isn't even Top 5 for primes. Tyson Fury would also knock him out cold, though probably in a later round. Tyson never even saw the canvas until Douglas and by then his prime was over. Like I said, it was a brief prime, but it was the best, and during it no one could touch Iron Mike. No one. Not Ali. Not anyone. Although if it was anyone, it would not be Ali, it would be Tyson Fury. And a puncher's chance for Marciano and maybe Foreman.

[@jamesvalvis1131]

By the way, I bet every one of these Ali supporters never saw prime Tyson but saw him in his decline. It has prejudiced their view. I have tried not to do that with Ali, despite the fact that the last time I watched him fight live, you almost pitied him. I could have knocked him out that night, let alone Larry Holmes. I maintain, take the Tyson who fought Marvis Frazier, knocking him out in 30 seconds, and the Ali who fought Joe Frazier, losing a UD, and put them in a ring. Tyson in three.

[@Head318Hunter]

The BEST Ali vs Tyson "Dream" break down I've ever seen.

[@DoggieNYC]

Imagine Ali with 4 months to get into Mikes head. He would take up residence immediately. Only Cus would be able to get him out.

[@AD-cy7wx]

Tyson was a stronger and faster Frazier… I just don’t see Ali beating him. I think a focused and in shape Tyson wouldn’t have lost to Douglas.

[@MichaelGarner108]

In my view peak Tyson beats anybody

[@cookiebozo]

Yet he lost consistently to buster, Holyfield (2), Lewis, etc…😀🤣😂

[@steveetienne]

I disagree. Prime Ali, Lewis & Holyfield all beat him.

[@Skovgaard1975]

@@cookiebozo At his best obviously.

[@kanenolan7642]

I love Mike however Ali could take damage. He wouldn’t roll over like a lot of Mikes opponents. Also, Douglas was no Ali.

[@plutoniumrocket]

When Fight Night Round 4 came out, years ago, I waited until midnight so I could buy it as soon as it came out. It had Ali and Tyson on the cover. When I bought it, the guy in the electronics section at Walmart just looked at me and said "Ali would've killed him."

[@jeepamir508]

Oh yeah. Finally. The one Dream fight breakdown we've waited for

[@78a67h]

They came from different eras in boxing and had entirely different tactics. Ali was a very intelligent fighter, very enduring, and specialized in exhausting his opponent before moving in for the kill. Tyson was a powerhouse who hammered his opponents ruthlessly from the word go. I would have thought that Tyson would most likely beat Ali if these two had met when either one was in his prime.

[@imanoldsouloldsoul9316]

Different eras yes but not different tactics. Floyd Patterson ans Tyson were identical stylistically, cus D'mato trained both in the same styles and Ali fought patterson twice so that style of peekaboo is nothing Ali isn't familiar with. He's fought the same style as Tyson and he'd fought bigger punchers in foreman and shavers. It'd be an interesting fight.

[@cpetrizzi]

Tyson would beat Ali - 8 times out of 10.

[@brucescott4261]

@@cpetrizzi ...How?

[@stevecaststringtheory8691]

Great job here as always, thank you for your consistently great content. I would favor Ali based on resourcefulness, adaptability, and mental toughness. I’d like your thoughts on Tyson vs. Marciano and Tyson vs. Foreman (original run, not the comeback), any shot of seeing videos on those fights some day?

[@Сергей-р8у8я]

The insane stamina and durability of Frazier got Ali so much trouble, not his bobbing and weaving in which Tyson is indeed similar

[@kuhanblock9380]

People say Marciano had the best stamina in the history of the division but I'd say that honour goes to Smokin Joe. Not only was Joe heavier but he was constantly moving over 15 rounds at his peak

[@arjunakorale8103]

YES, and Tyson definitely does not have Frazier’s stamina. I would say that that’s a certain!

[@icelandiccubicle3418]

Tyson Fury and Vitali Klitschko have great gas tanks too especially considering their enormous size

[@mick998r]

Has to be Tyson in my opinion. More power, more speed in his prime.

[@cookiebozo]

That’s 1/2 of Ali’s opponents

[@Skovgaard1975]

@@cookiebozo Foreman was slow as Hell. Frazier was too stationary.....