Multiculturalism and Convivencia in Medieval Sicily ~ Robin Reich

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[@elevers]

Enriching our minds with knowledge through discourse as we lose them from boredom in quarantine.

[@JohnHawkins-he7mg]

Frederick II was the grandson, not the son of Frederick Barbarossa. His father was Henry VI.

[@MyRealName148]

Your quickly turning into a top interviewer. Very well done. She is very sharp and well versed in this area. Impressive!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Allthemedocs this comment really means a lot to me and I’m sure that she appreciates that as well. I’m glad you enjoyed this!

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

The short mention about Frederich the II wasn't very accurate. In the end he was the closest to Roger the II, he did great, he tried to restore the multiculturalism that Roger II established, and he felt Sicily as his own place to the point that he chose to be buried in Palermo when he died.

[@stephenmichalski2643]

WOW.......talk about multi-faceted complexity......I began to go under in the first 10 minutes......but I stayed afloat despite being overwhelmed with fascination throughout.....who the hell thought being quarantined was going to be boring couldn't be more wrong.......this was once again.......totally riveting......omg.......she was awesome.........I'm gonna need more flash drives.......haven't finished downloading the papers off academia from your other guest........I gotta get hers......this was really a trip.....I'm gonna need another lifetime or 2........that map.....the chapel......watching/listening to her explain this interwoven culture........really really great stuff!!!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Love your comment and I am so thrilled that you enjoyed it so much! I had a blast with it as well and I really appreciate your support! Stay safe and well! Also feel free to make video suggestions!

[@trioguitar]

As interesting as this discussion is, there are a surprising number of inaccuracies here. Just as one example, quite obviously William II was NOT a nephew of Roger II (he was a grandson). Also some of the speculation is a little bit out there. For example, at one point the expert wonders how someone like Roger II and his immediate family viewed themselves. Did they themselves as French? or Norwegian? Given 1131 is some 220 years after Rollo was granted land in Northern France, I think we can safely surmise that the siculo-Norman kings did NOT view themselves as being Norwegian!!

[@kaarlimakela3413]

Al-Idrisi, cartographer ... phenomenal! I found this map - discussed from 38th minute onward- in a quick search, and it is noted as a spread-out feature of a book of maps called: 'The Book Of Roger' so I looked for that: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_Rogeriana Wiki clarifies that this work was commissioned by Roger II ... but Al-Idrisi did the work ...

[@Wien1938]

I'd add that a possible reason why the Sicilian Norman dynasty makes those choices is that they are aware of how few they (Normans) are when in a land of Greeks, Arabs and Jews, so it makes political sense to co-opt the locals into your rule, rather than try and live as a conquering class. In England, there are enough Normans and Franks arriving under William I to keep the English under control but that strategy just isn't an option for the Hautvilles, who arrive with a few warriors as mercenaries. So moving to bring people in to court, speaking Arabic and Greek etc binds the different communities to the Sicilian monarchy as a unifying institution rather than an imposed lordship.

[@mortenthomassen4957]

My favorit king Roger II If you want to go a bit more in to what went on in a norman head, i can recoment the scolar Neil Price. He has done a lot of work on viking religion and grave rituals.

[@fredazcrate4362]

There never was a multiculturalism in Sicily or Spain. Nor in Southern France. While there was some exchanges, much of propaganda is a complete modern interpretation. If we ignore what the Christian chronicler had to say on the subject. However, young lady, I thank you for setting the historical record straight. It takes a great deal of courage to take stand for historical accuracy. God bless you for labours.👍

[@dmitrykizyanov6577]

Videos like this make these dull cironavirus days brighter. Thank you!

[@DanWotanBarrett]

Great work again, Nick; and a superb interviewee. Thanks, as ever.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

wotan barrett you’re the best! Thanks for your time and support. Stay safe and well!

[@DanWotanBarrett]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 For the encomium, & the gd wishes, my thanks; and the very same back atcha, my gd bruvvah. Best -

[@TheLacedaemonian300]

A really great job of explaining some very complicated history. This era has been hijacked by narrative over fact to such an extent that it's difficult to see these times as anything but "bad guys vs good guys".

[@andrewpauley4418]

Wow! Where has this channel been all my life? Such a good lecture/discussion/interview! Really enjoyed it!

[@genoveseLLB]

Roger II was born in Mileto Calabria.

[@pui668]

This interview is very profound and clear! it helps me tremendously as I have to learn about cultural interactivity in one of my uni courses! thank you!

[@matthewmann8969]

Yup lots of groups lived and traded and bought and sold and delivered and handled and picked up with another

[@silvanafioretti7133]

The Swabian king of Sicily, Frederick II called "Stupor Mundi" (wonder of the world); was a charismatic figure of his time (13th century); man of great culture (he spoke six languages), fond in art, literature, architecture, anatomy and more; even excellent diplomatic and politician! Check on yt: "Frederick II liked a strange, mysteriuos geometry"

[@janetlittle9817]

Very knowledgable and interesting.

[@Lion-hd3mr]

Awesome video great content subscribed . how do you edit your videos ?

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Thanks for the sub, and I use Windows Premiere Elements. This one took about three hours including me looking for images to use. Pleasure to meet you! If I can answer any more questions, don't hesitate to ask!

[@Lion-hd3mr]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 awesome brother thank you I appreciate that keep up the great work

[@franciscomm7675]

Fascinating video

[@michaelandrew964]

Were not Robert and Roger asked by the Lombard residents to help get rid of the Byzantines in Apulia and Calabria?

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

What would Chomsky say about th elanguages of convivencia in Sicily?

[@dylanpilcheruniverse6515]

Bravo that was fascinating !!!!

[@dmitrykizyanov6577]

Thanks a lot! It was a very interesting video

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Glad you liked it!

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[@genoveseLLB]

William I was a son of Roger II. He was heir to the Kingdom of Sicily. Read John Julius Norwich's books on Sicily.

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

Brilliany video!

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

And then there was the 'fitna' the discord, after the fall of Cordova and the Taifas or petty states that rose with the fall of the Caliphate. The rulers of the Taifas had nothing in common with each other other than the fact that each wanted to grab power for himself.

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

Regarding non compliant Christias, there is a Chinese saying, 'kill the chicken to warn the monkey'.

[@justentertainmentj.e8987]

I think I have a 943A.D(Hindu-Arabic numerals) encaustic crucifixion icon example of the Christian-Muslim community. The wood panel is said to have been created for Saint Monk Ivan Rilski and his Rila Monastery. I believe it to be from Sicily as it is a crucifixion scene which was a taboo for the Muslim world which could only result from the mutual relationship between Muslims and Christians in Sicily by this this time. It looks like an earlier version of a Cimabue.

[@justentertainmentj.e8987]

It's either from Sicily or Egypt.

[@djcudworth2355]

The intro music. Oh man I miss going to Mass.

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

The question, for me, is not how the Muslims ruled for so long, but rather how it was that it took the Christians so long to prevail, could it be that it took that long or the Christians to get tired of killing each other? or did it have to do with the taking of Moorish castles, and moorish wives, and siring children, half moor, half Christian, with divided loyalties, and less than singleminded aggression toward people they were now related to....or allied with?

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

What about the Gonzagas and Teminis?

[@djcudworth2355]

17:34 not looking at it for any particular reason? Other than the fact that the man they propose as a prophet told them to that is. Petty detail.

[@reviewsfromasocialjusticel8558]

She’s great. She must read Arabic, huh?

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

Maybe not. Her information is terribly flawed and biased...

[@reviewsfromasocialjusticel8558]

@@gabrielleangelica1977care to elaborate?

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

@@reviewsfromasocialjusticel8558 Where do I begin? Shia and Sunni were not around in Spain at the time, she seems to be biased against the Muslims, there was no multiculturalism as stated et al.

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

Weren't the Sicilians merely sawed-off Andalusians?

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

According to my DNA test..yes!

[@claudemontalbano3381]

Il ne faut pas exagérer le multi-culturalisme des Rois Normands! Ceux- ci n'avaient eu de respect que pour la civilisation arabe. Après avoir combattu et tué férocement nombre de musulmans( dont la célèbre bataille de Cerami où 35 000 soldats furent tués), les Normands les ont progressivement chassés de Sicile, dont et surtout Frederic II, avant que les Rois Catholiques d'Espagne n'ordonnent l'expulsion des Juifs en 1492 achevant l'épuration ethnique de l'île.

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

Sicilia Citrafarum et ultrafarum.

[@BaltimoresBerzerker]

Wow my comment got deleted?

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

Her information is flawed and inaccurate. You didn't ask the tough questions. Perhaps because you have little knowledge of the subject...

[@allanhunnicutt8887]

Almost comical.

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[@TheLacedaemonian300]

A really great job of explaining some very complicated history. This era has been hijacked by narrative over fact to such an extent that it's difficult to see these times as anything but "bad guys vs good guys".

[@michaelandrew964]

Were not Robert and Roger asked by the Lombard residents to help get rid of the Byzantines in Apulia and Calabria?

[@robertbarras7893]

No they were invited by the Lombards to fight as mercenaries against whoever hired thems enemies might be, that could be other Lombards, Byzantines or Muslim raiders, later when the Norman's became established land owners themselves they took it upon themselves to conquer Bizantine cities and lands so as to add to their own lands.