Multiple High-Speed Trains Halted in China’s Core Cities; Large-Scale Ghost Stations Emerge

[@SeelkadoomSonicBlack]

I could just enjoy walking around the abandoned train station and live in it, without worrying about rent

[@JS-jh4cy]

Good place to set up barbecue

[@SeelkadoomSonicBlack]

@JS-jh4cy and sleep with your "girls"

[@ImaStupidNobody]

We could grow food in the dirt nearby to eat and stay for life they wouldn't bother us I bet.

[@mikewolf-x6t]

Great idea. I would do in a minute

[@sleepinglaffey3886]

hi edit - Patriotism of Xinnie PorkPooh #slopaganda #misery #foreignshillbroth #tubecensor #victorgao - With stimulus and measures, Chyna's debt will be at 400% to 500% (600% is a completely failed nation state) of its GDP in the next decade, according to Reuters. -Chinese 🇨🇳 property Ponzi sector, which accounts for 30% of GDP, is crashing -Tofu Exports and Western imports, accounting for 37% GDP, are down. -Foreign investment is falling over 90% compared to it's peak in 2018. -Foreign visitors are down 96% compared to the pre-pandemic level in 2019 with less than 200 americans left. -Consumer prices and pay are experiencing hyperstagdeflation while necessities are undergoing hyper flation to Taiwan food price levels. -Youth unemployment hits over 21% (in reality 75%+ after eliminating faked numbers), a record. -It's fast shrinking workforce is 10 years old than neighboring countries. - During the years 1990-2021, the US printed 6.5 time more money while China printed 147 times. - It has printed more M2 money than the US and Japan combined, while it's economy is only half of them. - Current Chinese debt-to-gdp is already highest in the world, at 300%, according to Bloomberg. - This is a macroeconomic nightmare created by the party going way back in 1994 when they took the Tofu money off the international exchange. Now in 2024, the banks and the average little pink have no idea what is the ACTUAL value of anything within the country. Any stimulus from the Central state. will be meaningless and ineffectual because the Central Bank is a part of the Party. Thereby merging both fiscal Central and monetary private policies into one ongoing disaster. Local province officials were doing stimulus spending for decades in tandem of the "Economic Miracle" which will undermine any Central stimulus during an actual depression/recession or more accurately.. HYPERSTAGDEFLATIONARY NIGHTMARE. -- in the future house prices will drop to 10%, youth unemployment will be over 90%+ without streams, and middle class people over 35 will all be laid off with pays trimmed in half. How will you do in a country where real estate companies, local governments, and banks across China have crashed or fled? That is your challenge for the future (will you own a trash house with the mortgage?). Pensions will be laundered and your daily pay will be 1-2 dollars while you drink Poop Water and eat leaded kerosene cooking oil while the Party and Porkpooh eat Tegong Special food supplies. What Victor Gao doesn't understand, or won't acknowledge, is that all this overcapacity, overproduction, and over-financing, is a byproduct of the way the CCP does industrial policy. They indiscriminately pump huge amounts of capital into target sectors hoping to keep up GDP growth numbers, but there is no market for the amounts that are being produced. 25 years ago, when China had nothing, and a huge population that needed everything, they could get away with these policies. However, over the last decade returns on investment have decreased to the point where indiscriminately stimulating GDP growth is counterproductive. Now, there are way too many companies fighting over finite market demand. Now, sectors of the market are in free fall and jobs are being lost at an alarming pace. The question is, where will they hit bottom? Mengze harvard daughter: lives in US brother: australian green card daughter in law: british green card sister: canadian citizen brother in law: canadian citizen second sister: australian green card second brother in law: australian green card Arctic Catfish Shenzhen: laughs at how Leeks feed her Fei Fei Li the AI Spy and stealer-Has ties to the Party with Tsinghua University WOW SO GOOD AWESOME Organ Leeks #sloprosperity #theskydontlie

[@unkown1467]

The fact on what china done is they decided to build most of its new high speed station outside city center while japan mostly build its high speed station directly through the city center by using the existing station which is connected to existing conventional rail line that can act as the feeder for the passenger from the suburbs. Hence china creating new stations that are in some case simply inefficient.

[@philipwong5858]

Communist red China wants to copy from Japan but fail. Guess the CCP is NOT as smart as the Japanese.

[@markanderson3740]

people going back to their farm to grow food to eat don't need high speed rail, just a cart.

[@Gw2kitty]

They are not growing crops anymore, stealing other people's crop is now the national past time with officials stealing people's deposit it became a Win Win for all.

[@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257]

You need trains to move agricultural products to the city.

[@markanderson3740]

@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257 i would agree except everyone in cities are moving back to farming because the economy has crashed and there is no money or jobs to live on. the modernization of China was only an illusion the Chinese people wanted but were never given.

[@wheezysqueezebox7651]

Those whose social credit score is too low, can't take high speed rail... So, everyone back on the old, slow, green trains!

[@mikewolf-x6t]

Very good point. I never thought of that. I saw a video last year on how many millions have lost there premier credit score

[@tanpengjoo7205]

High speed doesn't not automatically translate into high revenue only high costs to maintain

[@louisduplessis2075]

Feasibility studies...a foreign concept in China...an understatement

[@Tekel-Upharsin]

Remember when Obama was foolishly envious of these rail lines after the Beijing Olympics? 😂

[@noahholland1795]

No, you see the idea was that American high speed rail can and will be profitable when intelligently planned as opposed to letting the Chinese Communist Party plan it.

[@kamsunleong6648]

He still is. Seeing how US is struggling to build their first one in California. Proposed in the nineties but only started building in 2015. 9 years on and still building. I bet he wish he could hire the Chinese and get it done faster and cheaper.

[@mark9294]

Well there is a lot to be envious about. Most of the network is functioning very well and they have the largest network of HSR in the world. Credit where credit is due.

[@John-fk2ky]

@@mark9294 it’s not really an accomplishment when it can’t sustain itself, which most of it can’t. It’s why there’s no big push for it in the US; the demand required to make it worthwhile isn’t there.

[@tongyigeshijie]

😂搞笑的美国人

[@bradmiley]

Excellent video - as always! As a European who lives on a small, crowded island, I find projects such as these fascinating. The idea that a country or administration can allocate huge amounts of funding for things that might never even be *used* is quite shocking. It's easy to say "Yes, but *one day* the station*may* become important - trains will run, and then, the infrastructure is already in place." But an abandoned building will NEVER be used. Without regular maintenance, and that tends to come through usage, buildings decay faster and faster, such as a small leak becoming a huge hole in the ceiling. If the trains DID come, the first order of business would be to demolish the old new building and replace it. I find this terribly resource-wasting - unless of course, that was the point all along. It's sad, it really is. My country has a lot of transport infrastructure problems, but we try our best to maintain and upgrade as best we can. My goodness, if we had the land, the resources, and the power to build such amazing things, we would *at least* try to take care of them. And this is no ill will towards the Chinese people, who I understand have very little power or influence to change things. It must make them sad, thinking at first that their area could be where the new big booming city is going to be, only to see it all slow down, stop, and gather dust. It's just a sad situation all round. Thanks again for a very informative and interesting video. Love from northern Europe! ♥️

[@chinesesparrows]

Hint Hint many projects in CN are just means to syphon away the funding for the local high ups to buy baijiu and mistresses. When authority has so much power with little real auditing or transparency this happens inevitably

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Yet some stations re-open in response to "public pressure", allegedly.

[@i-fart-n-elevators4610]

The western world allocates vast amounts of money to migrant replacements but at least China had train stations to show for the wasted cash unlike us

[@bradmiley]

@EllieMaes-Grandad Good point! Everything seems to be done in a "if you build a, they will come" fashion. But there's never proper integration. China really loves building totally new cities, but the above, combined with the systemic corruption (leading to the "tofu dreg" phenomenon) means that, say, a new station is plopped down without housing for the people the station is meant to serve! Or the housing (tofu dreg notwithstanding) *might* be built, but there's no commercial centre, grocery shops, restaurants, bars, or amenities. When a city grows organically, if a grocery store is needed in *this* location, then one will appear, to serve the need. Or if there are too many high-end eateries in a poorer part of town, or the economy shrinks a bit, then they move or change the business model. But with the Chinese new city system, it's like playing SimCity 2000 on your old 1990s PC - you're constantly struggling to provide, serve, and maintain services. Only you actually get to hit the PAUSE button on the game! We've all seen the footage of unused, never lived in apartment blocks being demolished due to over expansion by the companies,leading to terrible build quality while the people are placing large deposits - which so often just get lost in the quagmire. China is hopelessly addicted to expanding and growing, as this (apparently) demonstrates how well they're doing. But so often it ends in heartbreaking scenes as people lose their money when YET ANOTHER new city project becomes a pile of rubble, dust, and twisted substandard rebar....

[@YourHineyness]

@@bradmiley The quickest way to become poor is to try to appear rich.

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Insufficient passengers so train services are cut, thus do potential travellers not patronise the reduced services . . . . rinse and repeat.

[@killmozzies]

Passengers are scared to travel on them, Ti-fu constructions.

[@John-fk2ky]

That’s one reason I don’t use Am-Trak in the US. What’s the point of going through all the trouble of getting on one of the few trains that is in my area (and not available every day, either) when I can go to more places more quickly by flying?

[@Morisu-Chan]

The good thing about authoritarian rule is that when they want to get things done, they can do so quickly and efficiently thanks to lack of opposition unlike in most democratic nations. But the bad thing is that they tend to have no strong opposition or opposition of reason, because every official wants to be in the ruling party/individual's good side. In this case, what most likely happened is that the party overestimated the development in that area, possibly overinflated by false information from officials trying to look good and patriotic. So the party ended up wasting time and money to build a station that will not be used much. This is a problem in many rural areas, for example, in my home town in Hunan, the local government built a six-lane highway connecting to the town, but later was abandoned (probably due to lack of funding or the CCP realized it was not worth it to build such a mega-project for a small rural town. So now this six-lane highway sits empty most of the time. Although I guess it's good for kids to play on and good to drift bikes and cars XD

[@zilun]

You give them too much credit. It is not about over projecting potential growth. It’s that for every infrastructure development, officials overseeing its development can steal a cut from its budget. The more the developments, the bigger the developments, the more $$$$$ they can steal.

[@bluedrakken]

those are just rush job with no qualty control. everything built in china is falling apart. whats funny is that china main city are built under western construction company/overseer. the rest of china have tofu structures built by chinese construction company.

[@Cryosxify]

The problem with authoritarian rule is it's usually filled with bad decision makers and bad decision making processes. The only authoritarian system that might work is one one where AI makes decisions focused on being just, fair, and bettering people.

[@randalsaladbar]

7 years, and billions to build high speed rail only to be abandoned. I was solicited to build a 3.5 billion pig iron plant in South Texas. The project was completed 2012, and still sits unused

[@WhisperingWolf1]

is that owned by ccp?

[@randalsaladbar]

@WhisperingWolf1 yes

[@stischer47]

Where in South Texas?

[@randalsaladbar]

Portland Texas, CCP buys our scrap metal for pennies on the dollar, melts it, refines it, and ships it back to make new products from Port of Corpus Christi.

[@Xi_Jinping_is_Pooh]

Maybe that's just one of the way they funnel money out of china.

[@SithLordAnakin]

Notice the dozen half built high rises surrounding the stations? 3:48

[@markfcoble]

Funny stuff....corruption!

[@ric6074]

We lied, we stole, we cheated. We have entire training courses. We deepfake, ownself machine talk, self fantasy and ownself happy.😂

[@XiaoP76]

Actually, this one, they bought. They bought the high-speed railway slab track technology from Max Bögl, Germany and trains from Siemens, Germany. Including a technology transfer. That part is fine, nothing wrong with that. Worse is that afterwards they claimed that they developed all the technology themselves. The company that bought the slab track grinder technology even won the Hangzhou innovation price for the German machine, how pathetic is that.

[@JohnRinNoHo]

These are not business ventures, they are political projects, politicians around the world love to pose at ribbon-cutting ceremonies to impress voters who think they are getting something for free.

[@killmozzies]

Stations built 20 plus kilometres from towns, how convenient.

[@naekosl3059]

How smooth-running are the high speed trains? Is the ride bouncy from uneven track maintenance?f

[@philipwong5858]

Made in communist red China what do you expect, high quality? LOL

[@XiaoP76]

Pretty smooth, I took a ride from Kunshan to Qiandaohu last year, 300 km/h. All German tech though. I don't think that the trains travel that fast in the US.

[@philipwong5858]

@@XiaoP76 Like you stated is German tech. Imagine if it is Chinese tech, your live will be in danger.

[@XiaoP76]

@@philipwong5858 It was a technology transfer. Sure enough they tried to cut corners. I saw concrete slabs for the slab track that were destroyed just by the German project manager hitting them with a hammer. I just ride and pray, till now I got lucky 🙂

[@philipwong5858]

@@XiaoP76 Stay safe.

[@svennielsen633]

It would already be dangerous to use. If ever in use it has to be rebuilt from scratch.

[@killmozzies]

Byn another country Bamboo is NOT rebar!

[@thomasfarley5070]

The CCP ia a joke!

[@JS-jh4cy]

No it's a dream turned into a nightmare

[@famejay7318]

Umm these things happen every where west is a joke. Can't make a station for a decade

[@CanMav]

@@famejay7318 Try that again in English wumao

[@AS-np3yq]

Sowjetunion 2.0..

[@XiaoP76]

No, but the US railway system is. Europe's is ok.

[@RolandStenutz]

There is a reason why infrastructure project in Europe take decades. That doesn't prevent the creation of some "ghost stations" but lower speed and more aforethought does reduce the risk. Also, you need reliable statistics on population and population growth.

[@XiaoP76]

Land ownership rights. In China, they just take the land from you (with compensation, to be fair), it belongs to the government after all. In Europe, they must talk every granny to give up her garden that stands in the way.

[@Taketimeout3]

You have such a nice voice! By the way the word route is pronouncef root, not rowt. Funnily enough later on you pronounced it correctly. It is a shame that such well designed and well lit modern buildings are going wasted. Its like being in a film without people.

[@dez1989]

Could the surge of people banned from riding planes and high speed rails due to credit issues be a part of the problem? If the middle class is being wiped out by poverty, the government could be shooting themselves in the foot by banning so many people from riding.

[@floxy20]

I wonder how many of the "profitable" lines factor in debt and maintenance. Anyway, China's HSR fiasco should be instructive for those who engage in Magical Thinking regrding this stillborn form of transportation.

[@mnizammasood]

China has a habit of building train station a bit far away from the city centre. When I ride the Laos China Railway from Vientiane to Luang Prabang, I was shocked to know that it was actualy built 15km away from the town. Maybe the reason is for spillover development. But it is literally located out in the field somewhere. Luckily it is the first ever rail line that Laos has between its two most prominent cities, so the traffic is quite high.

[@JS-jh4cy]

Do the trains 🚆 actually stop regularly at these almost empty stations?

[@JS-jh4cy]

Or you have to push a button or bell for next stop or just wait for next station?

[@XiaoP76]

No, they run through at full speed. Actually, they do that at normal stations as well, when they don't stop there. It's quite an experience.

[@BLACKAAROW]

Since most of their HSR is around 15 years old now, there's no way they are gonna have the money to maintain the entire network, expect a large increase in major accidents and disasters in the next 5-15 years

[@ralphhardie7492]

😂😂😂 Now Xi is gone... Zhang Youxia is Putin's new boss 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder how Putin will deal with him ? 🤔🤔🤔

[@tanpengjoo7205]

Everything they want world first but end up worlds worst

[@Fr.VeniceLAI]

My favorite HSR Ghost Station has to be, the a.k.a. Xi Jinping City ..the Xiong'an New Area HSR Station. The Largest HSR Ghost City in PRChina, can be a fantastic place for jogging and even for over-night camping & sleeping, with all modern amenities provided.

[@VERBALMENACE_]

They should split the station up for sustainability for the community modern farming indoors/outdoor with already bought properties just have to be approved by the government for jobs

[@johnbollenbacher6715]

To be honest, I’ve never understood why high-speed rail is considered to be infrastructure. In order to be infrastructure, it needs to support activity that would otherwise not be possible. How does cutting the travel time between two cities improve efficiency very much. I think we should spend that money looking for ways to clean up the environment. Certainly there’s work to be done there.😊

[@backpropagation8365]

What an absolute waste of resources all to show artificial growth and a paper GDP. By the way, did people see videos of the HSR trains rattling at high speed? Would you dare take a Chinese HSR?

[@Cryosxify]

Especially when they can't find the parts to keep things working on their stolen designs

[@kensmith8152]

China has the faulty assumption that if you build it they will come. After spending billions and making it easier to access these areas, they still did not come

[@haroldjohnson1502]

They need a monorail!

[@kalutah]

They have monorails, it also flopped 😂

[@nicholasrockall7308]

They need Lyle Lanley, oh my mistake because they already have a full nation of them 😂

[@killmozzies]

Springfield might have an old one for sale, let me check with Bart.

[@noahholland1795]

Those four stone bridges… excessively needless infrastructure is like catnip to the Chinese.

[@RatTerminator]

Theyre airports r empty 2 !!

[@kyrusinek]

Why not make them smaller less grand to save costs or running the damn thing?

[@jast3641]

It's China long term Vision. In a decade yoy should see growth of travelers here

[@harugawafu9458]

Thousands of stations are working well, and very few stations are closed.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Shouldn't you know about the low traffic BEFORE spending lots of money on a massive building high speed rail station?

[@amadeusamwater]

Over capacity in a country of a billion people...now that's planning!

[@dgillies5420]

Some construction dudes are getting rich on these projects, probably they give half their profits to the politicians who fund these projects ...

[@davidholder3207]

If the Chinese had any initiative they'd go and occupy a vacant railway station and make it a home. They could pretend to be station staff cleaning it ever day etc and nobody would probable notice.

[@abubanana503]

and farm the open spaces of land for food, and say they are landscaping staff.

[@engchoontan8483]

singapore helped them save money by providing scheduling efficient algorithms. this time round, their dependence on electrical transmission and grounding, with complacency and womenly, will surface

[@engchoontan8483]

wealso helped with their repopulation, worker-soldiers, until go back to central-asia to start new crop season. we know sequence and chronological-order of events. we have new algorithms to do census via our satellites. china-monogoloids and their women baselines from qing-dynasty to opium-war, ww2, communist, communist-capitalist, communist-socialist(baseline roof issues of womenly), ... we know and directly challenge their PLA after they exported their gong-an to singapore.

[@提案チャンネル]

I was mad about how the Japanese Government is forcibly sustaining so many unprofitable train lines, which is leading to the burden of higher taxes, and then I happened to watch this Video. I was like, "Oh, **** this is bad. I'm scared."

[@RatTerminator]

Theres a tsunami financial crisis coming!!

[@tanpengjoo7205]

BIG NOT ALWAYS BETTER IF THEY THEY DON'T KNOW HOW UTILISED INSTEAD OF BUILDING FOR THE SAKE OF BUILDING TO " SHOW OFF "

[@vuphan3364]

Can't corrupt if you don't build!

[@LivingWithGout]

Hahaha if only they took a trip around the world to see all the abandoned train stations. We have cars now! For a reason!

[@RatTerminator]

CCP IS RESPONSIBLE

[@mikewolf-x6t]

Build it, They will come......Well, maybe not in China

[@paticiohk760]

Why not make the citizen to travel at least 1 per month to increase their credit score. Benefit for both systems.😅

[@KenApo-k9r]

The answer for china economy is : build news 50.000 city’s. News 75.000 airport. News 500.000 factories. News 850.000 dams. News 890.000 universities schools. News 950.000 hospitals. News 3.000.000 mental hospitals. Give all Chinese people’s 5.000$ USA.

[@MartelloClaudio]

Don't worry, also in some European countries you can find some train stations which operated for a few months and then...stop! Just think to Rome (Italy) where a train station was opened for the 1990 FIFA World Cup and then completely abandoned.

[@johnbollenbacher6715]

This looks like a classic case of government bureaucrats losing their way. I’ll bet no one gets blamed or loses their position in the CCP.

[@OldWarriorFella]

The whole thing was just a way to divert large sums of taxes. If we look at the overproduction policy of the CCP. this is certainly no surprise. There are hundreds of thousands of unsold Chinese EVs (built with massive CCP subsidies) in China and many ports beyond. There are some 20 million unfinished homes that can never be completed because the devs are all in receivership, or gone completely like Evergrand. I could list more but you get the idea.

[@alanmorrison3598]

Mr. Waltz should watch this video and ask himself if China's system is as great as he thinks..

[@RatTerminator]

😂 looks like Fake No.Korean cities,buildings!!

[@tracyalan7201]

Were the decision makers fans of "Field of Dreams"? If you build it, they will come?

[@fredEVOIX]

looks like Pripyat footage

[@RogerYeahmon]

🤷

[@Ravi-k7h7o]

China can sell all these unused Trains ,Stations ,Townships etc to India at a Heavily Discounted Price . China can still make some money and India speed up their Infrastructures A new idea . Details can be worked out . A win win Siuation for both countries ..Jai Hind !

[@fitzwilliamdarcy3328]

High speed trains go faster if they don't have to stop to pick up passengers. That's an undeniable fact. 🚊

[@famejay7318]

Reading comments seems like every station is closed and ccp did nothing right haha

[@ryant7930]

I guess patriot Chinese KZbinrs need to produce more propaganda clips about the mighty high speed train

[@Xi_Jinping_is_Pooh]

Building without studying or surveying if people will actually use it. Classic CCP M.O.

[@oncoded]

Only if they care more about the Poor, Helpless, Fatherless and Motherless People....Only if we truly Care about each other, EVERYTHING WOULD BE FREE and there would be NO GOVERNMENTS, NO POLITICIANS AND NO INFLATION.

[@Lymnucl_thy]

Those are not ghost stations People didn't traveled thats it U have to understand that china has high speed train stations everywhere They provide high facilities

[@killmozzies]

But no actual service.

[@emersonshiff8132]

defend pooh til the end, shill bot.

[@AS-np3yq]

Communism... build but not thought thru and not calculation. Money is a tool for measuring supply and demand...

[@XiaoP76]

High-speed railway in China was never meant to be profitable. It is a public service. From the government, to the people. I went from Kunshan to Qiandaohu by train last year, back by car, 4.5 hours. I liked the train ride more, that's for sure.

[@juancasidis4387]

Hahahahaah 😂 chaina five star qualite hahaha propaganda ccp are ruined / Taiwan heart of Asia ❤

[@famejay7318]

Countries open and close stations all the time. This is not a big deal at all

[@lalodaniels1388]

I'd rather have an overproduction of high-speed trains and electric cars like China, over an overproduction of weapons and bombs like the USA.

[@stischer47]

Of course you would. It would be easier for you to take land from your neighbors.

[@lalodaniels1388]

@@stischer47 Like manifest destiny?

[@hitest8925]

Why? Overproducing train stations and EVs have deleterious economic and ecological consequences for the Chinese citizens. Incidentally the USA does not overproduce bombs. They plan to use them all, either themselves or warmongering by selling them to countries politically aligned with the US to make room for more advanced systems.

[@zam023]

What are you talking about? China is producing more weapons than any nation on this planet, not just America... LOL

[@kenm4898]

America hasn't had "an overproduction" of weapons since the Cold War ended. America's defense industry drastically downsized in the early 90's. That's why the Chinese Navy is larger than the US Navy.

[@robertcharpentier6852]

VOTE NO ON PROP 5! WE DON'T NEED SOCIALIZED HOUSING! NO! StocktonRob

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

What an absolute waste dude, holy shit! Building the stations in the middle of nowhere? Jahhahaha

[@syedsajid697]

Love u china

[@AmaenbouShougun]

Don't call it a waste. 🫵🏻 It's a high-speed rail station that is absolutely necessary to boost GNP and line the pockets of government officials.