Multiverse of Madness: Iron Man Impossible to Reboot with a Variant? | Feige's Plan

Iron Man Tony Stark was a no-show in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but why is that actually a good thing? Open up a Wealthfront investment account today through my link www.wealthfront.com/rockstars and get your first $5,000 managed for free! Thank you to Wealthfront for sponsoring this video.
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness introduces us to the Illuminati of the 838 Universe, but wisely avoids showing us the Iron Man Tony Stark of that universe, despite rumors that Robert Downey Jr. might return, or that Tom Cruise might cameo in the role. But is Iron Man's irreplaceability after the Infinity Saga actually part of a smarter strategy by Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige? In this new miniseries called "Feige's Plan," Erik Voss explains the bold choices to establish Tony Stark as the central figure to the MCU in its first three phases, and how any attempts to replace him with a variant in Phase 4 will not lead to the same success the character had in earlier films.
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[@ToBoyHere]

I love that you call Favreu “Foggy” rather than Happy for most of this.

[@kyleduddy8313]

Thought I was the only one who caught this lol

[@trystinlindsay5674]

This video could explain why Tony Stark died in basically every episode of what if

[@fuckmasterskeletor9326]

I feel like the empty chair could be for Namor, since in the comics he leaves the Illuminati cause he disagreed on them voting to send Hulk into space. He could of disagreed with killing their Strange, so he left before they killed him so he didn't feel like he was part of it.

[@theflyguy2133]

Always thought that was out of character for Namor since he was the one who blew up a universe full of people to save his own I would think he would agree letting Strange die cause of the risk of having there universe destroyed

[@roaalynfrieson8046]

I like the way you think👍

[@ElwoodBRICKS]

Who said that the chair was empty… what about antman or wasp?

[@nameisname8421]

Yeah, when Namor refuse to do something and leaves, the illuminati always end up very bad

[@jd12thenoob99]

@@ElwoodBRICKS or Drax or John Cena

[@iTzBrUcE18]

After watching this video it made me think of the scene in "What if...?" where The Watcher is choosing Gamora to join the Guardians of the Multiverse. He says "not you Stark" after Tony makes a threat, it's a small blink and you'll miss it- moment, but even animated you can feel the emotion from the Watcher. It's like he is seeing an old friend who he saved the universe with, but in this universe Tony has no idea who or what the Watcher is. The Watcher has seen our universe and knows how important Stark is.

[@seansickles1668]

As someone who watched the original Ironman in theaters at 21yrs old and, over the past 14yrs, has become cemented in my fandom for all things Feige, I firmly believe that RDJs interpretation of Tony Stark is rightly left untouched. It was the unlikely catalyst to what has become a movement in cinema and storytelling, and to reimagine the character haphazardly would be a great disservice to the roots of what we've all come to love. RIP GBPP

[@ZIM_INC]

I just think it would have been cool to have another interpretation of Ironman. I wouldn’t want a totally rebooted Ironman. No one could replace RD Jr

[@Wodz30]

Batman comes to mind

[@Untrendyworld]

Yeah like an iron heart or even an Ironman that uses like an a.I system

[@theamazingherouniverse5260]

I love you 3000 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@dero_oan]

I think another concern are people who think differently. They might want Tom Cruise to take center stage even have some weird 616-838 multiverse merge to get him to make sense

[@CCFONESOL]

Arno Stark

[@DoctorDex]

Amazing to think Kevin Feige built a cinematic universe out of Marvel's scraps. He's like our Nick Fury

[@booziebadazz1692]

a BOX OF SCRAPS

[@nulnoh219]

@@booziebadazz1692 Probably in a metaphorical cave too based on the budget they used to have.

[@therealrebeltrucker]

Kevin Feige built this universe in a cave.... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS

[@StaxxxCmd]

@@therealrebeltrucker sony: we aren't kevin feige

[@theronin9984]

Or Tony Stark!🤔

[@t.j.r.e.e.s.e987]

Downey’s comeback after substance abuse still amazes me

[@darnellplan5015]

If he ever relapse’s his binge will be legendary he’s got enough money to snort a Mark II suit made of pure coke baby

[@nicksmith2010]

Immersion in his work, along with an awesome spouse, probably helped quite a bit.

[@maddielow2328]

@@darnellplan5015 well that’s tasteless

[@Phosphor_Sco]

Addiction too, not just abuse Most people abuse substances at some point

[@martianunlimited]

To be fair Ironman is synonymous with substance abuse

[@jhoagie1367]

I think it would have been a very emotional scene Strange seeing Tony up there. Also would have been cool to see the other Tony's reaction knowing in our MCU our Ironman sacrifices himself.

[@jordiwolff875]

I agree with you and it makes sense @Jhoagie 13

[@Chrizzx3]

This is something I haven't even thought about, while watching all the theories and rumors back before Multiverse of Madness came out. It would be quite the interesting dialogue between the two. I imagine they would talk about it when Stange gets interrogated by the Illuminati.

[@StaxxxCmd]

It would have been an emotional scene but would have connected with the audience

[@jhoagie1367]

@Latest Obsession maybe not. Maybe he could have been a holo gram like they were at the beginning of endgame?? Too far away to come back to help fight wanda?

[@Balochistanin4k]

yeah it would be cool to see ironman back but as in the dr.strange movie all the heroes in the Illuminati were killed so brutally so it would be a dishonour for tony stark if he was amongst them and would got killed in the fight would be a shame for marvel. ironman is a mighty hero and he cannot be dishonour about what he did in endgame

[@sonyscronies]

He keeps calling him Foggy. Lol I love it.

[@atharvahushe8679]

Well one thing, I don't think anyone can deny is that IRONMAN had the most influence on infinity saga then any other character.

[@masterofthechimichangas1306]

I disagree. I think it was Blorko

[@secondsolid2965]

I can't wait for the "Unworthy Thor" and "Cap's Shield" installments!

[@DR35Era]

there are definetly different versions of tony out there bc back in infinity war he said he had a dream and based on what america chavez said in multiverse of madness that their dreams are just themselves in a different universe

[@storiesinthedust]

Loved this style video so much!! I find the behind the scenes of making these movies as interesting as what happens on screen. I can’t imagine what it must be like for feige to have had this crazy idea that turned into one of the most iconic franchises in history. His little engine that could is now the gold standard for cinematic universes. Seeing how that happened and why that happened is so cool!

[@trey3rob]

Agreed. He’s irreplaceable. I’m glad they didnt reboot him. Way too soon

[@z0eie]

A+ for the Aunt Viv shout-out! That's a cultural deep cut whoever wrote or thought to include that in the script is the MVP of this episode.

[@DonniezMarie]

Was thinking the same thing!

[@dariuschisholm7317]

And heath ledger joker

[@mitchellty]

I laughed out loud

[@Untrendyworld]

Aunt viv was the craziest smoothest and coolest transition ever like just upright replaced a whole person with the same history lol

[@walterlowe3585]

Yes I was looking for this Comment 👍🏽🙋🏽‍♂️

[@redswasted8624]

@4:10 Lol, You called Happy Foggy 😂

[@joegallahue3698]

This was awesome! Can't wait for the rest of this series

[@LokieDoke67]

@3:53 Tony telling "Foggy" & 4:10 Morgan Starks request to "Foggy"... 🤣🤣🤣

[@hunterharris7069]

Absolutely loved this video and can not wait for more episodes of Feiges Plan. You guys are incredible. Thank you for creating such enjoyable videos.

[@bw6138]

Wanda has variants, Strange has variants, Loki has variants. RDJ could come back and be a variant. The Loki we have now is from 2012.

[@AgentsingleO]

Keep up great work guys!!!

[@suzanneharrison1463]

Thank you! Love this and am looking forward to the rest of this series!

[@overheatedeskim054]

Marvel and Kevin Feige had to talk RDJ into saying I AM IRONMAN at end of Endgame because RDJ thought it wouldn't work so it was planned out to say that.

[@r.m2192]

Ehhh maybe he was right. That scene could have been written better in my opinion

[@julianvalencia9351]

True it's just weird fitting

[@budgiecat9039]

@@r.m2192 Now that I think of it, did Tony really have no other choice but to do the Snap at that point? I mean he had the infinity Stones lodged in his hand armor; its not like Thanos was that much of a threat anymore. He coulda used the Reality Stone to yeet them all into a pile of pebbles or something then atomize them

[@imnotmike]

@@budgiecat9039 Just because Tony had the infinity stones doesn't mean that he could use them like Thanos did without repercussions. When Thanos did the snap it was no big deal for him. When Tony did the snap, it completely destroyed him. We don't know of Tony could effectively utilize the stones to do what he wanted without severe repercussions.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@imnotmike Im saying at that point Tony didnt need to use the Infinity Stones because Thanos was less of a threat without them. Look how easily they mirked Thanos in the beginning of End Game and that was only a few of them and without Wanda no less.

[@OldManWitton]

I hope it's more like an absolute point, like in What If! he seems to always die so maybe that's how they will explain no variants

[@Toxplicity]

This was awesome. Love this content

[@vsopx9410]

This was a great video Erik. Chapter one and done.

[@ngaishing]

RDJ is irreplaceable‼️👏🏻

[@BezzleNA]

Looking forward to these videos! Really good insight.

[@BrumeGhost]

Huge Fan thank you for your wor Voss!

[@chup12682]

Great episode. Really! This has been one of your more cerebral topics as it goes into studio strategy as well as continuity for character story arcs. And your point of why Tony Stark was such an interesting character is so true; that despite his perfect academic mind, his life and creations were far from perfect. If anything else PLEASE bolster more of these videos! Thank you for your content!

[@zjliles6676]

Keep the amazing content roing always watching!!

[@Kewraatola]

What a beatiful conclusion. Love this. You should do more stuff like this.

[@DamnAwesome]

This was awesome. Love this content!

[@Xandycane]

This was probably the most interesting video you all have put up to date and I've loved many, many of your videos. I cant wait for the next installment.

[@DamnAwesome]

Keep the amazing content rolling always watching!!

[@limelightcapital7958]

Amazing Video Erik!!!

[@damianmonzillo6058]

Looking forward to more from this series!

[@archoolio76]

We need the Ego Stone in the MCU in my opinion as a plot device!

[@archoolio76]

As it was rumoured for Phase 4

[@fearlessfoe927]

What’s the ego stone

[@mocolababies5500]

seventh infinity stone

[@brian6101]

Cosmic cube

[@arahcozy]

I got goosebumps… This is why I respect Kevin Feige….

[@anthonywhitt4001]

You can't be serious you nomies killed marvel

[@murk4552]

@@anthonywhitt4001 you mean revived, after Sony and Fox shit all over their films with comic book inaccuracy, extreme nerfing, terrible characterization arcs, no worldbuilding, etc.? The MCU became the real life version of the comic book universe.

[@murk4552]

@@anthonywhitt4001 and Marvel is partly corny, outdated and came out with a lot of convoluted trash themselves. So the source material can sometimes be unreliable or not up to par.

[@anthonywhitt4001]

@@murk4552 wtf you're inhaling you must be a DC

[@anthonywhitt4001]

@@murk4552 0

[@coblamoration1102]

Loved this Voss. Can't wait for more.

[@mariemoore518]

Just wanna thank you guys!! @Ericvoss, this was awesome!! Much love from a true fan over 40yrs

[@Conor2400]

Really enjoyed this, looking forward to the on going series

[@hussainkanpurwala7573]

Great video. One of the best explanation video

[@tulip7903]

love this analysis; can’t wait for more

[@edmarfranzmarfil3307]

Love this kind of videos!!

[@bazookabonsai8818]

Great first episode! Cant wait for more!

[@ItsBraxtonmg]

loving this series so far

[@Sythexdragon]

This is amazing thank you

[@ayesincere]

Calling Favreau, Foggy and not Happy threw me off lmao

[@lathainmorton9433]

This is a very interesting video. The idea of a universe being defined by the actions of one of the characters is a fun interpretation. That being said I can’t wait for Ironheart 🤣

[@AgentNemitzComics]

Amazing video, feel like I learned so much about stuff I thought I knew everything about lol

[@R.Manuel1985]

Loved this episode and can’t wait for more in this series Great!

[@mikeshul1994]

This was honestly one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on this channel keep them coming!

[@cheshirekat528]

I am interested in seeing more like this. Good stuff.

[@jkevinparker]

Tony talking to General Ross was retconned by “The Consultant” to be him asking for Blonsky, not Banner. And the whole thing was masterminded by Agent Sitwell and Agent Coulson to prevent the World Security Council from releasing Blonsky to join the Avengers Initiative.

[@toybugcarl]

Tom cruise would have been a great cocky cameo. He shows up, pops his visor open to a confused Strange and says, “who were you expecting to see?”

[@freeamericanthinker558]

7:30 the little snap.🤣

[@sametrise]

Well said

[@filippobona6763]

Amazing episode!

[@27retrodaze]

Yes!! Please keep doing these... THIS is what I love about both Marvel Comics and the MCU... The cerebral...

[@jeremygrahamjg]

Love this 👏🏽

[@mattbertapelle2122]

Well done on this ep #1. More, please. Now :-)

[@jeter2721]

Greaaaattttt video! More of this please and thanks

[@sethberkenbosch3089]

Love that Voss casually kept referring to Happy Hogan as "Foggy"

[@Curtdogg-we6ju]

I absolutely loved this! Please please please A Lot more chapters. Very interesting to hear the backstory’s. “I love to see how the sausage is made”

[@kevintheofficialcat]

That was an amazing video! Like really makes you rethink the MCU

[@Cyrax4d]

Feige's dedication paid off big time

[@sallycapotosto6927]

Thank you.

[@dingodee2930]

3:52 Erik slips and says "Foggy" instead of "Happy" lol

[@luisreyrivera5006]

Yo I love these series themed theories

[@LokiAndLoiDontGiveADamn]

Here’s a practical and obvious reason: Marvel will not reboot IronMan simply because they want to respect RDJ. Maybe when he’s really old like in another 20 years they will try to reboot IronMan, but now it’s just a dumb idea.

[@bonoki3870]

this was great, absolutely great. can't wait to see the other furtue chapters...

[@willismanning27]

love this

[@nicholaspierre6957]

Solid Essay

[@RoxaneJ14]

Oooouuh i like this concept !!

[@innerauthority2439]

Top tier analysis !!

[@MarvelQueen616]

Love this series!!!!!

[@paul_the_paulpaul]

Hello love your videos

[@cilenesilveira5]

Love this video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@canoncakecream1]

Amazing!

[@kidfury9154]

i honestly believe the captain marvel variant was just a last minute replacement for superior ironman given that everyone else in the illuminati was their own character minus captain marvels maria rambeau

[@swavey83]

You called Happy Foggy at the burger part 😂

[@jameshall2335]

Spot on. Been a weird progression but it worked.

[@rotrodproductions8357]

I’ve never noticed Morgan’s drawing in FFH!! Eagle Eyed Voss 😆

[@szalaierik]

Excellent video!

[@ryanschmitt1980]

I like this series a lot it is a really good idea pls keep it up I want to learn more!!!

[@theholyplunger]

Love this series! Very excited

[@christopherbonner5059]

Excellent vid.

[@jasondemuro6882]

I like the Feige Plan series so far. I'm looking forward to more

[@garethmcwhinney5640]

Awesome video

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Great retrospective.

[@s.v1404]

This video is soooooo goood!!!!!

[@Angel-ch4xv]

Great take

[@isaaclaumbach2522]

Awesome 👌

[@djcoprerodrigues2780]

That video was great

[@OrangeJambo]

I think the future of Marvel has some intense potential. This was a good ironman themed video. GG

[@sergioval4589]

That "Aunt Viv" reference is criminally underrated lol

[@lishenramsudh2983]

Love this take on the plot

[@macroberts6910]

Love how Erik called favreau foggy while showing a clip of him as happy hogan