Did I buy the dullest bike in existence? 2024 Honda NC750X DCT First Impressions real owner review

[@geecee4746]

One of the best bikes Honda ever made. It does what it was built for perfectly.

[@chunkybullmoto]

I had a 2014 NC700X. It didn’t have the DCT. Rode it for 10 years and traded it for the 2024 Honda Transalp. The NC700 was a great bike. I never had a single issue with it. I really miss that storage compartment. I never found it boring at all.

[@R8latte]

Exactly! On top of it’s reliability, personally I miss that extra storage at the front

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Last year I bought a Kawasaki ZZR1400 and a Honda NC750X. By the end of the year I realised the Honda was my 'go-to' machine. Indeed I used the big Kawasaki so little I sold it. There isn't another bike out there I would rather have.

[@Jodmart]

As a lot have people already said, “great review” couldn’t disagree with any of it. Bought my DCT in January 24 and have just clocked up 4000 miles, was a little unsure about the bike at first but it ultimately it has won me over. Completely useable in the real world on real roads but I have upgraded the front and rear suspension with Hyperpro front springs and a YSS rear shock, that has made a big improvement for a total of £800. It’s definitely not an Adventure bike, and it does have its flaws but for me it does everything I want from for a fairly reasonable outlay and the economy is great. Hope to see your follow on vids, just subscribed, I wish all KZbinrs could follow your lead. By the way you can get rid of annoying gear/rev light on dash completely if you want. Instructions in handbook, and you can also see how many miles you have travelled once the bike goes onto reserve fuel. Can be set through menu settings. All the best Martyn

[@wayneknodel3347]

Great real owner review! As the owner of a 2017 DCT, I immediately paid attention when you highlighted the harshness of the suspension, as you are the ONLY review I've read that has ever mentioned it, something I noticed from the first day I bought the bike. Of course the 2017 has less rider modes, but it has equally needless/useless selectable colors/gears/rpm buried in a seriously complicated menu. I figured out the trip meters, but all the other crap I NEVER use. Other than those things, this bike has been the easiest to ride, efficient, reliable, and versatile bike out of close to 100 I've owned. I'm also a big fan of thd DCT, and typically ride using the paddle shifters for downshifts in the eco mode. When people realize they should ride bikes that impress themselves and not others, it stands out. And judging by the growing group of owners, many are. And the day I got 24 beer and a Costco chicken in the storage bin, it became my friend for life! Boring? Not a chance!

[@Bryan11210]

I had the suspension upgraded and now it needs nothing. I want to get an inline 4 tourer but I think I'll have this one a long time.

[@rebel1969X2]

I bought a 2020 in August of 2021 and have put 40,000 miles on it in just over 3 years. I absolutely love mine. It is taller than yours, is manual and I put risers on it. I live in Texas where everything is bigger lol

[@Pihlalorjoone]

After the Cub, the best Honda ever! No if's, no but's, simply the 2nd best Honda ever

[@MrJkfamilyguy59]

I own a 2024 NC750x DCT and like many others I love mine. It's a all around workhorse for everyday commuting and longer trips. For me I just ride my own ride.

[@Tom-o9w]

Sold my GS 1200 a year ago and bought this very same bike even same colour and I love it. Thought it was slow but it is not. Did have the same issue with it lurching forwards when you man handle it so I always select N before pushing it. All in all a great bike.

[@MultiVogon]

Yes I always move it around in neutral. It was the slowing-to-a-stop-why-am-I-not-stopping experience I wasn't prepared for!

[@williambell12]

'18 manual owner here. Riding 50 years. You need to ride it for what it is, not what u want. Jeez!, people hitting the red line. You ride it in the torque zone, not power band. Its a long stroke, keep it in the "meat". With road based tyres it can certainly hustle along. Great production mate. Cheers from New Zealand

[@mikeandmona6584]

Most practical, most reliable, you meet the nicest people on a Honda.

[@kevinsmusings1615]

Love your style MV and so grateful that you don’t regale us with your legendary poetry 😉 Having owned a 2015 model NC750X I wholeheartedly agree with your summary. It’s not the bike for charging around like a loon scaring the locals but as a travel bike, i.e. somewhere to sit and enjoy the scenery with minimal fuss, it’s exemplary. Mine was a manual ,so none of the dct shenanigans, but fast A road overtakes were terrifying because I kept hitting the rev limiter at the worst possible moment. Presumably the dct fixes that. I’m currently on a Transalp which is great for faster rides but when the roads get slow and narrow I find myself wishing I was back on the NC. Hope you enjoy the bike.

[@davidalder6558]

Well done review with a dry sense of humour. I loved it. I drive a very practical 2006 Honda Silverwing 600 (scooter on steroids) and love it. The NC is on the top of my list to replace my Silverwing in 2 years when it turns 20. Other riders used to joke me about my bike until they could not keep up to me in twisties. Keep up the great work and who cares what others think in the long run. Dave from Nova Scotia, Canada

[@MultiVogon]

Silverwing! I remember when they were basically a CX500 with a load of Tupperware glued to it 😂 Bikes & scooters have come a long way in the last 30 years (and when I remember some of the sh!t heaps I used to ride that's a really good thing ;-)

[@seansixfive]

I was feeling a strong pull towards the V85tt but videos like this keep fueling my doubts. Honda Transalp 750 coming right up! I will wait until the 2025 model becomes available in a few months. Enjoy your bike and forget about the dull bit. If its a pleasure to ride, then its a good bike.

[@MultiVogon]

Yeah I'd like a spin on a Transalp to see what they're like. I'm not worried about the dull label - it did give me a hook for the video though :-D

[@oldgriff8559]

If you’re not intending to go off road , which many NC750 x owners won’t be, Michelin road 6’s are a fantastic option that transforms the ride to a much better experience…great vid..any bike is as dull as you want it to be..🏍️💨💨

Very nice review, I love the way you focus on details, I'm tempted to buy this bike, vids like yours makes me go for it right now, but I think big changes are comming on 2025 for this model. Maybe my biguest concern is no to find enough empaty with my sporty riding style. Hope you have a chance to make a vid of the CB650, the other in my wishlist.

[@blearyview2254]

Bought mine in 2019 (new) and just love the bike. You are spot on with the suspension and mine has the hard seat but other than that it my go to bike (I have a couple of others). My NT110 is DCT but the NC is manual so cannot comment how the DCT performs and have to say the NC has plenty real world power. I thought about changing to the 2025 model but Honda not been radical enough so the trusty 2019 is staying.

[@MultiVogon]

What's the NT1100 like with the DCT? I ride one fairly regularly (not owned by me) and am not a huge fan of it for many reasons - but the engine is nice and I reckon the DCT would be nicer than the manual to ride for sure.

[@blearyview2254]

@@MultiVogon I think the DCT works very well although I have heard folks complain they think it snatchy. Personally I find no issue but am sure if you are heavy handed on the throttle then they will have issues. I do love the NT, been all over Europe with it and it great value for money. The engine is indeed excellent. I have loads of vids on the NT if you interested.

[@martingibbs1869]

Coming up 10 yrs on my Nc750x. It's my goto bike. If you're into DIY maintenance it's easy. Best tyres Mich pr5. Good luck.

[@thestonegateroadrunner7305]

NC owners love their NCs. For good reasons. But we have to live with all those ignorant ones and their correspondingly ignorant comments. Imagine, there's one of the greatest bikes out there and most of the bikers don't know about it.

[@paulbroughton-alleyne9271]

Brilliant review that for once sounds like it is done by somebody who thinks for themselves and knows the actual bike. Best real world review I think I have ever come across for any bike. Keep it up.

[@stevellewellyn7192]

Entertaining and useful review. You get this bike. I'm finding it hard to decide what would come next after the shine of mine has worn off. It's soooo useful. The 2025 model doesn't move things on enough to tempt me to change but it's good to see Honda are adding small improvements. I'm waiting for the belt drive/ larger frontal bodywork version to arrive in my ideal future.

[@MultiVogon]

Thanks! Well this is the third 'I'm going to keep this forever now' bike I've had in a row. Not sure if that says more about the bikes or about me :-D I'll definitely be keeping it for the duration of the warranty at the very least. (don't quote me on that though!)

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

Bought one in 2018 and loved it. Very relaxing bike indeed. I ended up trading it for a Transalp, but I do miss it in a few ways. That frunk is extremely useful, and the bike is easy, reliable, comfortable and it can be ridden on dirt roads with ease with good clearance.

[@MultiVogon]

I think I'd be tempted by a transalp too, though I've not test ridden one. The engine would be good for off-roading I think, but probably not with a DCT.

[@mikerider58]

I prefer to be in control of everything on my bike "triumph bonneville " l don't like rider aids TFT screens and a bike with no clutch is a scooter. Excellent review 👏 you very good, extremely audible, l enjoyed the honesty. Thank you.

[@davidingram792]

I have the 2017 model I call it my dementia bike as its the dct model. Your right about the suspension but you soon get use to the ride. I love the idea your never in the wrong gear, no faffing at traffic lights and alway able to scratch your nose with either hand whilst staying in 1st gear ready for when the lights change. The 2017 model has different drive modes to the later models it has Drive then sport 1,2 & 3. I find sport 2 the ideal choice for town and twisty roads as its not going up and down the box all the time and it feels like riding a conventional bike. It's really a Marmite bike you either love or hate them. For me it's the most practical alrounder you can hop on and go anywhere without fear of not being on the wrong bike in any situation.

[@chrispy865]

Couldn't agree more with a bang on review. It is a motorbike, a good one, and does not require pigeonholing. When I started bikes were just bikes and had to do everything from commuting to holidaying. My 23 with 5k miles suits me just fine, but I'm an old man with a buggered foot (hence the DCT) and like you, I think the biggest shame is the budget suspension, particularly the front forks. When I find the correct consensus of opinion on how to improve them, cheaply, I shall do so. I think I can live with the rear shock. I found that in Sport mode mine would change into top (6th) at an indicated 106 mph. Tyres were changed for Michelin Road 5's when I had a opportune puncture. I think the ECU unit "learns" how you ride and adjusts standard ride mode accordingly over time to better comply with throttle input. I found the riders footpegs to be too small and slippery in the wet and changed them for larger aftermarket ones, and the lack of screen adjustment and buffeting is cured by moving the screen forward to allow air behind it and mounted on adjustable rails. The single front disc is more than adequate and twin discs on the new version would not be enough to tempt me to change. The DCT alone means I shall keep this bike for as long as I'm able. Shall follow your future insights with interest, having now subscribed.

[@jerhughes500]

There’s a South Africans guy, frank something I think, and he’s done some nice mods to his NC. Chunky tyres, different suspension, looks a lot better imo. I’ve looked at these for a couple of years, tried the CBX 500 but it wasn’t great on the motorways. I’ve got a tiger 1050 at the moment but it’s not for me, too big and heavy. Real world power, the NC is more than enough. Good to see you back. 👍

[@MultiVogon]

I'll have to check it out, ta. The NC would be fine on the motorway as far as speed goes, but I think the lack of wind protection and no cruise control would make it tiring quite quickly. I also ride (not my bike) a new model Tiger (900? 950? not even sure lol) and it's a pretty nice bike to ride to be fair.

[@piotrbieda5912]

To flash your headlight just press the switch down and it will flash 😉. Great review 👍

[@Mid-Knife-Crisis69]

Dull and beautifully reliable. I have a cb500x, and it's probably my favourite bike.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Rather be riding on it, than working on it. Good choice. If it suits you, who's to say otherwise. You might invest in some fork cartridges and a shock, maybe a pipe and an ECU tune to coax a little personality or character out, but otherwise, I'm sure it'll run longer than you want it to.

[@mikaellundsrensen6108]

That's funny, I'm coming from exactly the same place, and I will support all your statements, I got mine as a reliable workhorse standing next to my Moto Guzzi V85TT, now my Moto Guzzi is standing in the living room and the NC is my preferred choice standing in the garage. I don't know what it is with this bike? It's built to a budget, on paper it's supposed to be dull and practical, but when I ride it I just simply feel relaxed and joyful ??? but alright, sometimes it's just about the perfect match, and I found it to where I am in life now (still love my Moto Gucci and keeping it so far) greetings from DK

[@flexywing]

Its the great bike< ihad one for 18 months a great bike, but you right, the suspension could do with some work. The new 2025 model looks good I had metzelers on mine and they were really good.

[@donaldbuchanan6654]

I'm a bit of a squirrel, I own everything, ride the crap out of all them. I have an early nc700x with the DCT. It took me about 2,000 mi to finally get the hang of what I wanted that gearbox to do. I learned you can't downshift too far and when you nail the throttle you're right in the torque curve and this thing will move right along. Not fast, mind you but definitely entertaining. And I LOVE the DCT gearbox. YMMV

[@megaady36]

Had the same bike from new since 2021. If you change the trip to miles since fill then it swaps to count up miles when it goes into reserve. Tyres either Michelins or Bridgestones I've found good. Buy a cover for the rear shock otherwise it's constantly covered in crap. Try and keep the swing up clean as they rust really easily if neglected. Not an adventure bike but an easy going, go anywhere, do anything bike. Headlight is so so in the winter.

[@MultiVogon]

Yeah I was aware of that - miles-left-in-the-tank would be nice to have though. I've fitted a rear hugger already which seems to be keeping the worst of the crap off the rear shock. Headlight definitely could be better for sure - shame the OEM spotlights are so expensive as I reckon they'd help a lot. Not sure what tyres I'm going to get, but Dunlop Mutant, Michelin Pilot Road 4/5/6, and Pirelli Angel GT are the main contenders right now.

[@kevindarkstar]

Headlight is rubbish tbh and a definite poor call by honda 😮 how a company as big and with such a history can fail to fit a good headlight I don't know

[@jimbroen]

I have a manual version of the 2014 model that I purchased about a year ago. My favourite thing is the long stroke engine. It loves meandering around town at 2000 rpm. It has a pleasing relaxed sound. Your comments about the suspension and the original stock tires are bang on. This bike is built to a price and I'm OK with that. The budget suspension is something that bothered me when I first bought the machine but I changed my mind on the issue. The NC encourages a riding style that has no need for fancy suspension. I'll never get a speeding ticket on this bike and that's not because of impulse control. It puts me in a state of mind where the goal is to enjoy the ride and smell the coffee. It's not like riding around on a supermoto or sportbike where brain power has to be dedicated to following traffic rules. Honda does call this an adventure bike and I don't find that baffling. Everybody knows what a dual sport is and how it's used. Ditto for a retro bike. It's not so clear what an "adventure" bike is. People will bolt some accessories to a Honda CRF300 and they'll claim they've changed it into an adventure bike. Others will go to the BMW dealer and add every option under the sun to an R1300GS purchase and call the result an "adventure" bike. Those two examples aren't the same type of bike, not the same buyer and not the same use case. They're further apart than a retro is from a cruiser. "Adventure" is a pure marketing term and a confusing one at that.

[@233kosta]

I got a mostly stock (she wears a Brembo radial master with pride! Also double-jointed mirrors and wind deflectors. I touched nothing else.) CB650R in the DPRB. I also bought a less stock ER6n (she gots the sports suspension 😁) to tour around Bulgaria whenever I'm there. Whichever one I'm on while out having a bike adventure is an adventure bike. It's such a broad and vague category that at this point I don't see much sense in it, other than as a big bucket to dump anything with the slightest hint of off-road capability that doesn't fit any other label.

[@MultiVogon]

A friend has a 2014 too and loves it, she's put over 50,000 miles on it I think. I do wonder if the manual would actually be a bit nicer around town at slow speeds. I know I cannot be trusted, so I am happy that the NC is unlikely to get me in any trouble. I once looked after a friend's ZX6R for a while. Now THAT was a bike but I knew I could never own one without my license spontaneously combusting 😂 I think you've described what I feel when riding the bike quite well - yes you're not allocating so much brain power to the actual physical riding. It is a different state of mind I think. One that many won't understand but that's ok. My biggest adventure ride was on an overloaded GPZ500S - that was a 'boring commuter bike' too back in the day. Got me to the Nordkapp and back from the UK though!

[@233kosta]

@MultiVogon Mate of mine has a Ducati 916. Basically his pride and joy at this point. I swear there's a conspiracy though. They've got a satellite pointed at his garage, ready to issue the ticket as soon as the bike comes out!

[@jimbroen]

@@MultiVogon During the 1990s I owned a GSXR 750 which I rode like a scooter while being folded up like a pretzel. That bike soured my love of riding for many years. I'm just not someone who enjoys fast riding. I live on the Canadian Prairies where once I'm out of the city, the highways are straight, level, well maintained and free of traffic. In the city, the potholes will swallow a Grom whole. You talk about looking after a sportbike for a short time. I have a 690 supermoto that during the first couple of weeks of ownership I was a bit aggressive but I soon settled down. It's possible to appreciate the qualities of a supermoto while adopting a chill riding style. They're really good at dealing with potholes.

[@martinsims35]

Had DCT for 3 years, one of the best all round bikes I've ever owned, great tourer, regret selling it.

[@ianlogan9415]

Bought a 2024 ex demo machine (DCT). Comfortable, frugal with fuel, reliable but oh so bland! That and the fact that i didn't like it deciding to change gears in the middle of a corner. Traded it back in after 2 months for a Transalp (which i love).

[@davidphillips7255]

Thanks for the detailed useful review. About six months ago I rode my 500F to the Honda dealer to buy a 750X DCT only to find the bike had been discontinued here in Canada. I loved the idea of the DCT and I was really disappointed. Now I don't feel so bad about winding up with a V85. Yeah it is Italian; but so far it's been pretty great, especially the suspension.

[@MultiVogon]

I thought the 750 was one of Honda's biggest selling bikes, maybe not in Canada? Enjoy the V85 - great bikes 👍

[@jimporter]

@@MultiVogonHonda US don’t really take this bike seemingly offering it only DCT and only one colour (black I think) and dealers hardly ever have the. Possibly think that if supplied properly in the US then it would be a success and they would actually have to improve it. They also don’t do the sibling machines the X-ADV or the Forza 750, strange when the X-ADV is a big seller on mainland Europe.

[@davidphillips7255]

@@MultiVogon Canada is a small market and getting smaller. Honda Canada cherry picks the handful of models they think will be most popular and that's it. When the Transalp came on the scene, that was the end for the 750X. What was interesting was that the 750X bikes gathering dust at dealers; instantly disappeared when word got out that the 750X was to be replaced with the more mainstream Transalp. There aren't even any used ones available. I looked.

[@christianweller4288]

Thanks for a straight up honest review of the NC. Suspension appears to be a weak point and I hope that’s addressed in the new 2025 model. I’m still considering one in the future as the frunk is perfect for photographers and those requiring regular snacks.

[@jacobcoetzee3849]

Nice review. I suspect these bikes will just keep going, like an ST1100 or a BMW K75. The NC700/750 might be the perfect bike for my daily commute.

[@richardluys9282]

Vogon, good to see you're back with a 'new' bike! Shame you had to let the V85 go, but I understand you're reasons. I still have mine, including it's quirkiness (atm my blinker switch seems to misbehave: blinkers won't stay on sometimes, and other times they can't be switch off 😒). But, that's not a big enough issue for me to trade it in. I used to have a Tracer 700 which was/is a very nice bike. But too smooth to my liking. It does everything without complaints, easy and comfortable to ride. But, it get's "boring" after a while (I use boring for lack of a better word). Probably a bit similar to your Honda. But I agree with you: if you're bike is your primary means of transportation, you don't want stupid problems and stupid dealers. You want/need it to work, be dependable, etc. Nothing wrong with this Honda. It may lack the looks, it may lack the excitement, but if it fits your riding style, and won't let you down; who are we to judge? I wish you many 'boring' miles 😉!

[@MultiVogon]

Ha ha thanks. I've had my share of excitement over the years, but the roads these days are so crap that slowing it down and taking it a bit easier seems like the better option for me at least. I managed to get rid of my need-for-speed on the race track and off-road, don't feel like taking those risks on the roads for sure! I plan to keep the bike but I said that about the last two as well so... *shrugs* we'll see. Sadly I no longer have the space / money / time / inclination to have multiple bikes like I used to - hence having to find the best compromise I can right now. Oh I was always amused by the indicators on the V85 - you never quite knew what speed they were going to flash at ;-)

[@cusi2307]

You’ve done some practical mods I’ll have it off you when you get bored / buy the NT😁

[@MultiVogon]

😂

[@AnthonyMartin-cc5uy]

You've picked up on everything I found with my NC 750. I bought the comfort pack that includes a centre stand, larger screen and heated grips. Touring screen is useless as it is so noisy and directs the air straight to your helmet. This was solved by a £14 clamp-on extender that transformed the bike, enabling high speed cruising. Grip diameter is too small as you stated and I have arthritis in my fingers these days so didn't suit me. I found it a great bike for long distance and took several 200 mile plus rides with no issues. In the end though I'd had enough of the DCT and ironically bought a Moto Guzzi V7 special edition, mad.

[@GarryShirreffs-cs2gb]

I’ve got the manual version, love it and think it’s amazing lol cheers

[@colinbarber9324]

Hi, I came off Italian stallion bikes, Ducati and Aprilia, great ride quality, stunning looks, power all over the place……and crap electrics. Brand new bikes that cost a fortune and you were waiting for the next hiccup electronically. I watched Chris Moss do a revue of this bike, he is correct, it’s vastly underrated. I purchased a 2022 model new, added bar risers, put the hyper pro front springs in (the suspension is poor) and kept adding bits and pieces. I went with the manual model, I’ve had a VFR 1200 DCT , so I’m used to the system, but wanted to keep it light. I’ve gone with the Pyramid plastics crash bars, (better than the Honda ones) Givi spots and rear rack. I do trips with camping gear to the Dales, Lakes and Wales. The salesman at the dealership said I you sure you want to go from a Tuono to an NC, I said I have got fed up with the temperamental Italian mistresses, I’m going back to the wife (Honda) I would change the rear suspension, but it is liveable, the expense versus the improvement?

[@zorrotreps]

Great review. Thanks. Keep them coming. Glad I kept my v85…

[@reldwob22]

Motorcycling is first about riding; not what you ride. (Although that is also part of the fun…)

[@theodavies8754]

Great straight up review. It's not for me. Good luck with the winter, that's not for me either. Wouldn't buy something I'm not confident I can fix,26 year old Harley would be pretty boring to pay someone else to work on. Happy days from previously sunny Devon.

[@marklanders630]

It is a great commuter bike, but that's all it's great at. For everything else, it is just ok.

[@rob-fb5xs]

Funny you say that about the led on the grips. I have the same problem with the leds on my Oxford heated grips. It has crossed my mind to put tape over them at night but I was wondering if it was only me that was sensitive to this kind of thing. 🤣

[@nikkihayes5411]

Nice vid....I have the "BIG OLD MAN" 1200 2016 version and would love a dashboard notice for the heated grips.....I keep forgetting to turn them on after fuelling. I tried the 700 and 750 dct and the 750 was much smoother for gear changes while the 700 was as clunky as my Ct1200 is...apparently the newer ones are much better...the radiator is ugly compared to the cb500x and the handbrake is still shit and I wish theyd used the nt700 shaftdrive 🤬🏍️💨💨💨💨👍P.S. I used to have a 700 Deauville...now thats dull😸

[@kevindarkstar]

On the lcd dash on this one, personally I prefer my reverse lcd dash on my 2018 nc750s 😊

[@MultiVogon]

That's the narrower one, with some colour in it, I think isn't it? I think the best dash I've experienced is the R1250RT with integrated navigation etc - that was nice. I am enjoying having fewer buttons to fiddle with right now though :-D

[@MrBeracah]

Great review and although may sound picky, I think they are all good and valid points. Sorry for the diversion, but can you please advise which Moto guzzi you preferred? Ie v7 or 85 tt? Many thanks

[@233kosta]

My first bike was a CB125F which came with the same type of display (though a different layout). I set it up for night riding and just left it. During the day it was lit up pretty well by incident daylight. I've come to appreciate gauge clusters who don't require additional lighting to function during the day. Y'know - like every single one used to in the past! Never expected such an anti-feature on supposedly modern, supposedly improved vehicles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MultiVogon]

Mind you, I well remember taking speedos apart to replace the burned out bulbs back in the day ! Although once your speedo-cable snapped it didn't matter so much 😂

[@233kosta]

@MultiVogon Ah... The bad ol' days... Come to think of it, I remember tearing apart half the dash on the ol' Toyota to do the same 🤣🤣🤣 Say what you will about LEDs, they've fixed _that_ particular struggle. I just wish they'd stopped there. The newer (2006) Toyota's speedo _has_ to be lit up day and night, else you don't see a thing 😒 Cars peaked in the '90s 🤣

[@233kosta]

@MultiVogon "I don't know what you're talking about, officer - I was doing 29! Come, see for yourself! Says so right here!"

[@Geshmaal]

Honestly I wish Honda used this 750cc engine for more bikes rather than the new one in the Hornet and Transalp 750s. I love a torque-first, long-stroke low-revving engine! Combine that with the great economy and simple, infrequent maintenance and we have a winning combination. That said, I currently ride an ADV350!

[@MultiVogon]

A lot of people love the ADV350 - I only saw one for the first time on the day I picked my bike up from the dealer - didn't even know they existed before then. Yeah I think this engine would be good for the sort of off-roading that 'adventure' bikes do (gravel tracks etc) though I don't think I'd want the DCT for that, I'd want more manual control I think for sure.

[@jaccar2020]

Had one not dct, it cornered superply fuel consumption fantastic touring screen cut the wind out it was nighon a perfect bike but it was so good it lacked thrill it could get upto a good speed but it felt slower.

[@jkro30a]

It's only boring if you ride it that way. I hang with a sport-touring group with no problems in high speed twisties and sweepers. The bike is plenty fast enough and handles curves like a champ. But yeah, it also rides along with no drama on the highway, where 85 mph is a real sweet spot for my manual 2012. It's a great bike and greatly overlooked.

[@peterasmussen2933]

really useful review, thank you. I think its 20 kilos too heavy and poor suspension make for a not good bike. Then the rubbish tires make me think honda are a company I don't want anything to do with. What other measures have they taken to reduce the cost that we can't see? Clutches are great!

[@allanmason7544]

great vid fab bike

[@stuarthammond1009]

Witty and informative insights as always. Definitely a bike I'd now look at having viewed this. Being a fellow v85tt owner I followed your previous videos with interest like you I have moved on to something different. Dealerships simply lie to your face and treat you like s$%t . My supplying dealership Arnold's motorcycles don't deserve customers. I'm in royal Enfield land now cheap, fun and home servicing. After an Italian i'm trying a Indian, pretty obvious there must be a Chinese down the line!

[@233kosta]

Check your throttle slack. Adding a tiny bit (if you have the margin) might alleviate the accelerate-whilst-braking issue. I run the 650 close to its upper limit.

[@MultiVogon]

Cheers I'll have a look. It's not a major issue - just something that's happened a couple of times. I think part of it is getting used to an auto bike after riding manual for so many years. You learn quickly not to blip the engine when it is in gear, that's for sure :-D

[@233kosta]

@@MultiVogon Oh man! Blipping in tunnels is not something I can see myself giving up 🤣 Wait, what if you click it into neutral?

[@davecarrera]

Dull? No not really but my experience with my 2024 model was a very uncomfortable seat & not the best handling by a long shot so after 2000 miles upgrade, after a couple of test drives, to my 2024 Transalp which is comfortable and handles like a dream.

[@davidmatthews3093]

I found your comment about the Dunlop OE tyres odd. My CB500X came with Dunlop Trailmax tyres. The OE rear managed 12000 hard kilometres and I replaced it with the same. The second one only managed to last about 10000km but I think the second one suffered from doing a lot of heavily laden kilometres in very hot conditions.

[@233kosta]

The "never gets past 5th" in sport mode kind of makes sense. 6th is an economg gear on a lot of these bikes ('tis on my 650R as well). As such, 5th gets you your top speed, and in 6th the engine usually isn't making enough power to counter drag so you end up slowing down.

[@williambell12]

Yes, sounds feasible. I spend a lot of time in 5th, just rolling the throttle on and off. Then into 6th on long straights. Fuel consumption never seems to deviate. 350-400kms a tank

[@MultiVogon]

Indeed, I am sure it does it to keep the revs up a bit to enable faster acceleration and more engine braking. Can't say I've ever had an issue with the bike not being able to pull 6th though, it's a pretty torque-y engine.

[@233kosta]

@@MultiVogon Oh yes, she's very torquey, no doubt able to pull pretty well, but if you're going for top speed, as in the actual top speed, then you need the engine at its peak power to reach it. That's when it's doing all it can just to battle the enormous amount of drag there is. At that point, even though 6th gear will technically let the rear wheel spin faster, if it's anything like it is on my 650R, when it's under this much drag, that peak power is simply out of reach. That said, at regular road speeds this engine should pull well in most gears. That's why they have it shifting "early" when there's next to no load. This power curve stuff only becomes relevant when you're going for the driving ban 😉

[@233kosta]

@@williambell12 The gearbox management system on these DCTs in standard mode usually has two goals - maximum achievable fuel efficiency and protecting drivetrain components. At this point they're probably going for fractions of a %. Even though to you and me the difference between 5th and 6th is basically imperceptible in the conditions you describe, I'm sure it makes sense to the engineering team that decided on the algorithm. Lots of people also have concerns about it shifting early when just plodding along. As long as there's no real load on the engine, that's fine. It only becomes a problem when you're going 25mph in 6th and you give 'er.

[@bsimpson4076]

Never mild dull bike mate.. you drone on and on... 😂😂 (just kidding - interesting review

[@crispinleslie]

If these TFT screens with rider modes are going to define the future of motorcycles - I am destined to live in the bargain/retro world of analog clocks and mechanical switchgear .

[@BatterseaBill]

There is a video online called Knox with a motorcycle journalist called Mos and he upgraded the suspension front and rear at a cost of £3000 and he couldn't believe the difference in handling. Night and day was the conclusion he came to.

[@jimporter]

Nowhere near £3000, the Hyperpro gear he got free but it costs around £1000 to do front and rear and that is with their top range rear shock. They also have cheaper one. Even if you used range topping Ohlins it would only be a bit more than that.

[@MultiVogon]

There comes a point where you just spend a few thousand more on the bike though, perhaps? I have no plans to upgrade the suspension at the moment. Although having said that on a previous bike I did fit progressive springs which helped a lot - but that was 'back in the day' not sure if that sort of thing is still an option.

[@SKgeostrat]

Mate, you put me to sleep. I think it says it all, about both you and the bike:

[@lomate1963]

It’s a nice colour and a very underrated bike mossy had his suspension upgraded and it transformed it have you seen the long term test ?

[@williammoore1750]

Bought a Forza 300 in 2015, hardly a rocket ship but the rear Dunlop only lasted 2,200 miles. I've never felt happy on dunlops anyway.

[@MultiVogon]

Tyres are so subjective too - I feel much more confident on tyres I "know" are good. To be honest I think most modern tyres are pretty good these days. Haven't decided what to get yet - really depends what I can actually get hold of locally.

[@grodt88]

you could wait for 2025 model, it got a little upgrade like duble brake discs and colour dash

[@stevetaylor8698]

I went for a longish test ride on one of these, it seemed to tick most boxes for me. I agree, its not an adventure bike. But I found the bike was just too cramped for my long legs and it hurt my hips. I'm 6'2" and getting/have got old.

[@MultiVogon]

Yes I can see that. I know you can get footpeg lowering kits, that would probably make it more comfy. But how far do you want to go really. My most comfy bikes from the last 10 or so years have been the original MultiStrada, and the V85TT - that riding position is definitely one of the best for me.

[@stevetaylor8698]

@@MultiVogon Think I'll stick with my 14 year old BMW.

[@hughwilson-gm9bw]

I have a 2022 nc and it gives a range countdown and a fuel gauge readout.

[@kevkfz5226]

Chopped in one of the most agricultural (Sorry characterfull) bikes for one of the dullest. Respect. Not sure its for me.

[@kevirle5451]

I wish we could get NC750 in Australia

[@volt8684]

I had one - dct 21 plate sold after 3 months hated it🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jimporter]

The suspension of the NC can only be termed agricultural.

[@MultiVogon]

I'm pretty sure the gas-ram on this cheap office chair I'm sitting on is plusher than the 'dual bending valve' forks on the Honda...

[@delwynhughes623]

Dunlop trailmax are the reson I didnt replace with dunlop 2300 miles ? not good enough Allso had similar experience with new cb500x and trailmax

[@MultiVogon]

Shocking, isn't it? Looks like Tourance Next was also an option for this bike - and apparently they are the proper tyres not cheap versions. Sadly I got the short straw dunlops, oh well!

[@233kosta]

I mean... You push the button - engine starts. No random electrical faults. No underspecced components just shitting the bed for no apparent reason. No swearing while the starter is turning but nothing is happening... Yes yes, I can see why Japanese bikes are dull 🤣🤣🤣

[@MultiVogon]

I know, it's not even caught fire, even a little bit yet! Also, confusingly, all the oil it came with still seems to be inside the engine. What's that all about??

[@233kosta]

@@MultiVogon You mean it's not pissing oil everywhere?! I read on a BMW forum once that if it's not leaking oil, there probably isn't any oil in it! 😱😱😱

[@borderlands6606]

The scooter-isation of motorcycles is not for me. However, my prejudice against plastic clad bikes with components at 20 different angles may be a shortcoming on my part, and I simply missed the memo. I agree adventure exists exclusively in the mind of the rider, not the machine, and the NC750X is as good as anything to have them on.

[@233kosta]

The ONLY thing I dislike about this model is that Honda recently switched them from cable throttles to ride by wire 😮‍💨

[@MultiVogon]

I know it took me a while in both cars and bikes to get used to not having a physical cable when they started to change over years ago, the 'feel' was definitely different. On the other hand, you don't have to carry spare cables any more on long trips!

[@233kosta]

@MultiVogon Always feels like something is lost though, it's just not as immediate any more. And if you're trying to be precise, it messes with you even further. I guess I better order some spares...

[@garryburns2061]

Think you should of kept your v85 by the sounds of it😂

[@grahamkerswell6706]

Nice vid good BMW comment. Snob bikes.

[@andrerijkee9893]

I would like to have the bike for the dct and the engine but I dont like the looks. He is not ugly but even the new 2025 model there is something wrong with it for me.

[@wiadroman]

"And you may be screaming boooring at your screen", I don't, I punch the wall and yell "duuulll" instead. 2025 model brings nothing new to the table. "Newer and sharper styling" you cannot notice but still no cruise control. Are they taking the mickey?

[@MultiVogon]

Cruise would definitely be nice to have for longer trips for sure, I do miss having it sometimes. I guess this is a 'cheap' bike these days. Although the XADV has cruise I believe. I bet the electronics are all there and it's just the switch they removed.... I see a lot of comment online of current owners not thinking they'll upgrade any time soon. As you say the changes are not really enough. Nice to have if you're buying for the first time though.

[@kevindarkstar]

No you bought the most versatile and utilitarian bike in the world 😂

[@MultiVogon]

Now if Ural made them under license... ;-)

[@FrankC656]

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[@roadstrom]

I don't know i think my V-Strom 650 is pretty boring

[@davidmatthews3093]

Most Adventure Bikes are 95% road bikes, just like yours.

[@kevinf-b5065]

Why if it's that dull did two youths find it soo attractive as to steal it from the street using an angle grinder . Mine was a 2021 model. The Dunlops are crap, Metzellers are light and day better

[@clivegower-collins9012]

No dullest would be Royal enfield 350

[@MultiVogon]

Shots Fired! 😂

[@borderlands6606]

In the same way there's no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing, there's no such thing as a dull bike, simply the wrong roads. My 350 chugger is the last bike I'd sell, whatever novelties it is supplemented with.

[@clivegower-collins9012]

@@borderlands6606 Good on you mate. My tongue was somewhat in my cheek with that comment. The 350 Enfield isn't my cup of tea, but doesn't make it wrong. I'm on bike 28 (at 62) so my own search for the perfect bike - apparently - continues :-) After much agonising, my Benelli TRK 502 is about to get a Triumph Street Triple stable mate and I think I have to concede that one bike doesn't do it. I think I need a third (retro) as I miss my Thruxton woefully. Ride safe

[@borderlands6606]

@@clivegower-collins9012 The mistake is to look for the perfect bike, it means you will always be disappointed. The trick is to find the kind of wrong you can live with. As an instinctive contrarian I have high deficiency tolerance, and some of the objectively worst bikes are the ones I miss most because they were subjectively brilliant.

[@clivegower-collins9012]

@@borderlands6606 Well said

[@motorazr5012]

Is the NC750 the dullest motorcycle in existence? Yes. What’s with all the owners commenting here how “great” this bike is? Say it enough times and maybe one can start to believe it. It’s horrible, dull, boring, an appliance and built down to a price. One of the WORST motorcycles I’ve ridden in 51 years of riding. I want a bike which is fun and exciting enough to make it worth the danger when riding, the heat in summer, the cold in winter, and the wet when it’s raining. If you want a Honda that is comfortable, relaxing, and gets good fuel economy, buy a Civic. A BORING motorcycle is an abomination. I HATE the NC700/750 and I hate DCT’s except on an adventure bike IF ridden off-road while standing regularly. If you love this bike, then maybe check to see if you’re really still alive (hint: you’re on the very low end of the spectrum).

[@jonm7272]

Chill out dude, no ones forcing you to ride one are they. Maybe get a life and don't get so triggered by things that have literally no effect on you.

[@kevingullick1596]

I've haven't ridden one yet, but I swear it can't be as boring as the 2017 Honda cbf 1000 mk2 I owned, so dull I sold it after owning it less than a year 🤷