2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E: E4 - Hoist Review | Rear Suspension

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@thedownwardmachine
@thedownwardmachine 3 жыл бұрын
He’s so excited about the Mach-E that he forgot about tipping the cashiers.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 3 жыл бұрын
And the beer cooler.
@thomasgrimm1664
@thomasgrimm1664 3 жыл бұрын
That bye-bye though...
@kulaengineering
@kulaengineering 3 жыл бұрын
Love it. And yes I will tip the cashier or others 😂❤️
@zukacs
@zukacs 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see Mach-E tear down, it seems you made my wish come true, greatly eager and restlessly waiting, Thank you.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Tear down coming soon!
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive What good news! Can't wait!
@genestatler2514
@genestatler2514 3 жыл бұрын
It's really good to hear good things from Sandy about a promising EV. We need all the " good" EVs we can get.
@mamadouaziza2536
@mamadouaziza2536 3 жыл бұрын
This is not the first EV Sandy has raved about.
@aidaneloff5357
@aidaneloff5357 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the cameraman and editor. The channel looks great!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We now have a team of 4 and two are full-time on these videos.
@tryonco
@tryonco 3 жыл бұрын
It’s good to be surprised.... positively! Just shows that we can all learn if we open our minds to do so.
@MindControl3
@MindControl3 3 жыл бұрын
Legitimately excited for this car. This looks like a new era of Ford, letting their engineers drive rather than their bean counters.
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Mach-E engineers were allowed to work separately from the rest of the company, sorta like a skunk works.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO 3 жыл бұрын
When they start building chargers, they can sell a bunch of them too.
@matthewspencer2094
@matthewspencer2094 3 жыл бұрын
Will that last when the company starts thinking in millions of units?
@suavAerials
@suavAerials 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewspencer2094 as long as Farley is CEO, I don't think we have to worry. So happy Mark Fields was only CEO for a day.
@daniell5826
@daniell5826 3 жыл бұрын
“It doesn’t look like a Ford …we’re all impressed”
@raulrse
@raulrse 3 жыл бұрын
I bet even the Ford is impressed.
@twany442
@twany442 3 жыл бұрын
@@raulrse So is your mother.
@jb007gd
@jb007gd 3 жыл бұрын
MAN I love watching Sandy enjoying this car. The Mach E is our next vehicle and it's very comforting to see Sandy impressed like this.
@Travlinmo
@Travlinmo 3 жыл бұрын
I am SOOO happy to hear someone is making good product and surprising Sandy. This is great.
@yrj77
@yrj77 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you can do the Mach-E tear down. Your positive comments has me intrigued.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Tear down coming soon...
@fredpinczuk7352
@fredpinczuk7352 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Question, on the hollow carrier castings. Front and Rear. Would it makes sense to have the large opening covered with a cheap plastic plug. As to prevent debris from building up inside the units?
@Noisy_Cricket
@Noisy_Cricket 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Awesome!
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredpinczuk7352 Mice need homes too!
@eb1888.
@eb1888. 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing that's happened to car review in my lifetime.
@rick67hou
@rick67hou 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime you open your mouth, something good comes out.
@anthonymartin8769
@anthonymartin8769 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment easily !
@quantummotion
@quantummotion 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see Ford step up their game with this vehicle. Thank you Sandy and the team at Munro Live for creating this series and bringing enthusiasm back again to engineering, and manufacturing.
@barnestim
@barnestim 3 жыл бұрын
Extending the pressing/adding a rear tub for storage would also have the additional benefit of continuing the flat floor resulting in less underbody drag. That bumper is a massive parachute (assuming no cover panel was removed for the video) and every little reduction in cD helps.
@10esseeTony
@10esseeTony 3 жыл бұрын
"We haven't even scratched the surface yet..." Need I remind you about that ding on the front bumper? :P
@draco_2727
@draco_2727 3 жыл бұрын
Another pretty good and informative episode from Munro team 👏 I'm wondering if these changes are the result of engineering leads or teams being swapped. I'm thinking that all these "radical" changes might be wishful thinking of the engineers but they never let them do it and now someone said "we need the best you've got, so go for it".
@N7_Maric
@N7_Maric 3 жыл бұрын
Team Edison, the Ford team responsible for designing the MachE, was given autonomy from Ford Corporate. That's the difference.
@guerro327
@guerro327 3 жыл бұрын
The good ole Mockey
@CausticLemons7
@CausticLemons7 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope y'all are able to buy one. I'd love to see another in-depth teardown!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
We did. Tear down coming soon. Subscribe so you don't miss anything!
@CausticLemons7
@CausticLemons7 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Subscribe? I watch every episode! Can't get real world engineering discussions like this anywhere else.
@andersonpg
@andersonpg 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find the "Electric Ponies Live Here" Easter egg?😆
@Eagles_Eye
@Eagles_Eye 3 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see Ford really tried with this car! I’m a 100% Tesla fan, but I’m also an engineer and I love it when something is build well, Hopefully Ford will also try to limit more of the parts, by designing new alternatives instead of grabbing already off the shelf existing parts. Improvement and improvement and improvement like Tesla does, But really. Ford made better start than VW. No question about it. Also the Mach E interior etc looks great compared to VW ( my personal opinion, you may have another one)
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are right. VW did not impress with those IDs. I thought the EGolf was a good attempt at electrifying an ICE model but the IDs should have been better as a purpose built models. For me the software and UI are paramount and VW are lacking. Haven't seen/used the Ford so can't comment on that.
@petemiller519
@petemiller519 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ford is letting their engineers do their thing, and not allowing the MBA's and Accountants have their way with their spreadsheets. About time, really excited about this car coming out of Ford. Looking forwards to the tear down. Cheers from Canada.
@gisobo
@gisobo 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a clue about engineering, but that thing looks so nice and tidy, it's amazing! Look Mr. Diess, that's how it's done...
@fullyelectric
@fullyelectric 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy, I am very happy you are taking a look at the Mach E 👍 as a long time owner of Tesla model X and model 3, the only two new EV’s that made us upgrade from Tesla is the Audi eTron replaced our model X and the Mach E replace my model 3, Full disclosure i still own the model 3 my son is driving it now, anyways I wished you had the premium Mach E to get a look at all the features the Mach E has to offer .. the select version you have is the cheapest with a lot less premium features and limited performance but still good most people.. Always great to see you excited .. always remember never nock it until you try it lol
@jorgecintron9674
@jorgecintron9674 3 жыл бұрын
I told my friend who’s a hard core Ford guy he needs to get this thing since he has a growing family and it would fit the bill. He literally just laughed at me and said he hates it and that he really hates that Ford called it a mustang. Go figure! 🤔😳🙄
@harshalhbhosale
@harshalhbhosale 3 жыл бұрын
Lol he's missing out on a pretty good vehicle here..!
@matthewwiemken7293
@matthewwiemken7293 3 жыл бұрын
well, its either the Mach E (good electric) or Model Y (good electric). consideration of any other electric vehicle in this price range is a disservice to purchaser:)
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewwiemken7293 The Koreans are coming!
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I personally have high hopes for some of the Korean offerings.
@rivengle
@rivengle 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Fingers crossed for an Ioniq 5 teardown if the Americans can get their hands on one.
@justingt3rs
@justingt3rs 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 great point, lots of room for aero development there too, lots of turbulence there, easy win for some free miles added to the range
@johnpapiewski8232
@johnpapiewski8232 3 жыл бұрын
Not only is it a pleasure to listen to a guy who knows what the hell he's talking about, it's amazing he does aerospace and other areas as well.
@Eagles_Eye
@Eagles_Eye 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, sandy Munro is awesome to listen to if you are in engineering stuff. + his age... I mean experience hehe,. Might rub off on us and we might learn something we can use in the future, when designing things. So far I haven’t really “ learned” anything “ useful” yet ( for my kind of job ) that I didn’t already know/use But I’m sure if I watch sandy Long enough he is going to drop something on me that I can use lol, overal a joy to listen to.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Barbie!
@Eagles_Eye
@Eagles_Eye 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedkelly4825 check every day astronaut. There is a video where he interview elon for the first time about starship, The moment elon realizes every day astronaut understands what he is talking about elon instantly opens up and even when they say it’s the end of the interview elon still continues and talks and talks untill he is taken away by some people, Elon respects every day astronaut since that moment. In an interview before the first crew launch he says he likes talking to him.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 3 жыл бұрын
To think that years ago in the U.K. Fords factory in Dagenham Kent was referred to as the “Dagenham Dustbin” not any more, I’m well impressed by what you’ve said so far about the Mach-E.
@jimcmf2
@jimcmf2 3 жыл бұрын
💥💥💥 Great honest review. I like when you point out the reasoning why something is done a certain way and why.
@erik.dahlberg
@erik.dahlberg 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a great BEV alternative! Will be interesting when the full teardown comes along. After that, you should have a look at the Ioniq 5. The launch here in Europe is selling crazy fast, and I love the styling and interior planning. And of course the 800v charging tech - the future clearly.
@crhu319
@crhu319 3 жыл бұрын
Yes BYD also gone to 800V
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 3 жыл бұрын
looks much better than i expected also - hope this continues other models
@ZeroInDaHouse
@ZeroInDaHouse 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like the Mach-E team had gotten a clean slate to work from. Hopefully it won't go down hill from there.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
NOPE, False. Muck-e still made with the FORD parts bin.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeb1039 - TESLA Rarely break. IF they do , I order MOBILE Service with my Smartphone , and its Repaired SAME DAY in just 1 - 2 hours. TESLA are Built REAL Tough , not FAKE tough.
@tomknop8675
@tomknop8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeb1039 as a Tesla fanboy, that guy above is a bit over the top. Cheers
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeb1039 To be fair, the same thing happens when the Mach -E breaks. WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Where in the FORD parts bin would you find the castings and battery? I hope Ford does well but with low production numbers and a tiny profit per vehicle I don't think Ford will be stealing Tesla's thunder any time soon. I do believe the Ford Mach-E is the GM killer though. Mach-E > Bolt in every way.
@thegarbone
@thegarbone 3 жыл бұрын
Have owned a 2WD Select for about 2 months now. Love that he is doing this trim level as most reviews are on the higher level versions. Really loving the battery setup, would be great to be able to upgrade in 5 or 6 years to a better pack.
@Thametownguy
@Thametownguy 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy, you are a real gentleman. I can always trust that you will give your true opinion where engineering is involved.
@e-enginemagazin2522
@e-enginemagazin2522 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanations. We love it.
@johncampbell4214
@johncampbell4214 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR THE TRUTH AND NO HYPE!!!
@lesliegweir
@lesliegweir 3 жыл бұрын
According to InsideEvs, there were only 6,614 Mach E's sold in the first quarter of 2021. I don't see how this takes much of Tesla's market away.
@patr5902
@patr5902 3 жыл бұрын
Ford already announced they are battery supply constrained to 60k for the first year of production in Mexico. And that ~30k of those 50k are heading to Europe for fleet emission requirements. The SK Innovations factory outside Atlanta will help but they are year or more out before volume production. And VW is also getting battery cells from there for ID4. Ford may eventually be able to sells these in volumes to impact Tesla but it won’t be for another 1.5-2 years
@lesliegweir
@lesliegweir 3 жыл бұрын
@@patr5902 I agree.
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 3 жыл бұрын
As a Tesla investor this is sort of annoying. But thanks Sandy for being straight up about your observations and informed analysis. After all Tesla and us investors, didn't get as far as we've gotten by pretending reality is something else. And good one Ford. My mom who worked for Ford, were she still alive, would enjoy rubbing my nose in these videos.
@rdyer8764
@rdyer8764 3 жыл бұрын
I wish people would quit talking about Tesla losing market share. It's almost entirely a mathematical issue. Since Tesla is currently supply-limited, there's no way to keep their market share. As long as more EVs are being sold in the US by others (the total market is increasing) and Tesla doesn't have more cars to sell, do the math: they are going to lose market share by percentage points.
@rdyer8764
@rdyer8764 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeperanddown It's NOT an important metric at this time because losing market share is inevitable while every car they have capacity for is sold even before they make it. My point is that the math says that Tesla can only LOSE market share until they can make substantially more cars, and that's not until Giga-Texas comes online.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
It is meaningless. The EV segment is such a small chunk of the total market worrying about EV market share is idiocy. There is a TON or market for both to expand into. As more EV's come out Tesla can double it's numbers but still loose 'market share'. What matters is YoY total sales, this market share business is merely to give imbeciles an excuse to quibble.
@rdyer8764
@rdyer8764 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeperanddown I am a shareholder. And in this disruptive market, with all the existing constraints, the old rules (and metrics) don't apply in the same way. Yes, you can START to get an impression by using what's always been used, but if that's where you stop, and you don't dig deeper into all the circumstances that define a number like market share in this environment, it's purely a delusion.
@j.m.t.4556
@j.m.t.4556 3 жыл бұрын
He may have forgotten to tell us .. But no one does it better, he waved and actually that aays it all. Sandy gives me confidence that ensures his thought's & heart is in the right place. That & the smile puts me in a safe place with the knowledge that Sandy's experience can be counted upon to reveal things that I have heard in these Munro Live shows are unbiased and valid information that lead me to a true gem. Bravo Mr. Munro, keep us entertained & informed.
@musingsbymarco5001
@musingsbymarco5001 3 жыл бұрын
"Hello boys and girls, and welcome to the rear end!" ^ ^
@garrycollins3415
@garrycollins3415 3 жыл бұрын
I'm putting together a spreadsheet of EV's, specs, costs, etc. When it comes time to buy I'll have made up my mind. Your info helps a lot.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to be of service!
@Tien1million
@Tien1million 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be awesome if you link your spreadsheet when it's done, and share it with everyone
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tien1million Would appreciate that greatly
@Froehlich9
@Froehlich9 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything expect the understanding of market share. Ford didn’t take market share from Tesla, they took it from ICE cars. Overall a solid looking competitor coming from Ford. Nice to see another “American made” car in the competition.
@andrewmeehan6151
@andrewmeehan6151 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing about this is American made lol, half of it probably comes from China.
@db4z09
@db4z09 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmeehan6151 That's not true. In order for it to be imported to the US without tariffs a majority of the parts have to be made in the US. However, assembling it in Mexico means it can also be shipped to Europe, South America, and China without tariffs, unlike vehicles built in the US. However, Ford still employees more people in the US than any other automaker. It would be even more if the US was as good as negotiating free trade as Mexico.
@andrewmeehan6151
@andrewmeehan6151 3 жыл бұрын
@@db4z09 hmm.. i know the motors are made by bosch (germany) and the batteries are made in China I presume. But these companies will face a ton of backlash by making their cars in Mexico. I will say if I had to buy an American auto though it'd prob be Ford. This car is without a doubt a credible competitor to the Tesla Model Y, and if anything it shows that Tesla's alleged technical superiority is a bunch of balony. I hope they are successful with it, but in order to do that they gotta be able to make money selling them.
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 3 жыл бұрын
nonsense, people just want more and more Ev choice and you are here comparing marketshare?! wtf!
@Noisy_Cricket
@Noisy_Cricket 3 жыл бұрын
Ford finally started listening to Sandy lol. If they keep this up, I think they'll be alright.
@scrapbongo
@scrapbongo 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward for the next series on the Mach E. Good observations and comment on the trunk space /cheers ScrapBongo
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 3 жыл бұрын
Buy one!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
We are.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
We did. Tear down coming soon.
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Can't wait! I hope it's as detailed (40 episodes) as the Model Y!!
@N7_Maric
@N7_Maric 3 жыл бұрын
4 out 4 for Ford from Sandy with an A+ comment. Truly it's a sign of the Apocalypse! ;)
@JAM_2024
@JAM_2024 3 жыл бұрын
I remember all the people in the comments section of the ID4 video were crying because they thought Sandy was being biased towards Tesla. No he wasn’t. The ID4 is just a half assed attempt by VW at making an EV. He’s praised the Mach E also because it’s a good EV.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 жыл бұрын
Hold on. The "car" parts of the VW had some strange choices. The infotainment/ nav part of the VW had some issues. The "EV" part? The Ford software could be better. The Ford battery (or control) could *definitely* be better. I'd say they're even.
@wagnerjack28
@wagnerjack28 3 жыл бұрын
The length of these videos is perfect! Keep them coming 👍
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom 3 жыл бұрын
my favourite part of this series is how Sandy is unable to not hide how disappointed he was with the ID4
@batchint
@batchint 3 жыл бұрын
when he got to the in car browser... that threw me...
@RobertHamon
@RobertHamon 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the intro music? I find it sets the tone for some rockin' content. Please bring it back for next episode! :-)
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 3 жыл бұрын
i dont see any problem with the id4, those are totally different designs. vw went with maximum comfort and practicality and manoeuvrability.
@rivengle
@rivengle 3 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv Model Y and Mach E are also designed for those aspects. All SUVs and CUVs are.
@lionelhuts875
@lionelhuts875 3 жыл бұрын
Unable to not hide?
@GenussScheune
@GenussScheune 3 жыл бұрын
It's always a good video if it starts with "Hey boys and girls" 👍
@paullester2535
@paullester2535 3 жыл бұрын
"T-Rex cross car beam" - this will become a standard automotive term!
@MarcoNierop
@MarcoNierop 3 жыл бұрын
The big question is if Ford can build this car with a good enough profit margin, and can build a gazillion of these to make a dent in the market...Are dealerships willing to sell the Mach-e? But.. So far so good! and it would be good for Tesla to have a serious competitor! will keep them sharp and continue to innovate at the speed of thought :-)
@ASilentS
@ASilentS 3 жыл бұрын
Why when you can push the customer in a dino-fuel direction and get more of that sweet sweet service money?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
MARCO - NOPE, the Muck-e is a loss leader , FORD makes ZERO profits on the Muck-e . meanwhile TESLA overall has 26+ % Auto Gross margin.
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 What proof do you have of this opinion?
@patr5902
@patr5902 3 жыл бұрын
Ford already announced they are battery supply constrained to 50k for the first year of production in Mexico. And that ~30k of those are heading to Europe to help meet fleet emission requirements. The SK Innovations factory outside Atlanta will help but they are year or more out before volume production. And VW is also getting battery cells from there for ID4.
@MarcoNierop
@MarcoNierop 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeb1039 Tesla's dont need service, so that is not much of a problem. Plus Tesla operates a fleet of mobile service van's, they come to your house if you have a problem.
@curiou25s
@curiou25s 3 жыл бұрын
Mach E didn't took 10% out of Tesla, it took away from some of their own ICE cars. EV pie in total growing, Tesla never gonna be able to keep 80% of EV market forever, but they still gonna grow as hell compare to where they are, cos pie itself growing way faster.
@robf88
@robf88 3 жыл бұрын
15 percent long term is say. I mean toyota the leader is 10 percent now
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
Is it difficult to control wall thickness in those large convoluted hollow castings? Yeah, it's hard to see the downside of a deeper storage tub. The GT will use more powerful and presumably physically larger motors but certainly they could just make a tub that fit all configurations. Heck, the rear tub could even be another cooler.
@NasaRacer
@NasaRacer 3 жыл бұрын
Call me old school but good use of the extra space behind the rear motor cradle would have been to extend the cavity to allow storage for a space saver spare tire.
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely looking good. The only negative thing that I saw was on the rear suspension control arms on the thin ones you can see the big bolts coming through the bushings and the nut is towards the rear of the car. You might find that the drive unit has to come out to get that bolt out because it looks like to get the suspension arm out you would have to take the nut off and then push that bolt forward through but you can't because there's something in front of it. I could be wrong it may just be the way it was filmed he didn't really show that part very clearly.
@MrGoogle87
@MrGoogle87 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy on Ford: Good idea can drop battery easy. Sandy on Tesla: structural battery is good. (Imo: This seems like recipe for disaster. Also makes it almost a “throwaway” product) Megacasting: how can you repair a minor chassis damage? Insurance premium problem
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 3 жыл бұрын
Someday, a big auto manufacturer will incorporate a greeting message into their design especially for Sandy to discover...
@teslaowner9020
@teslaowner9020 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy says that with the Ford Mach E: “’m kinda impressed” with Tesla he was like my mind is blown by how they adapt and keep innovating. I cannot wait to see Sandy review the refreshed model S due out within next few months.
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to hear that ford can actually make a decent vehicle.
@Tien1million
@Tien1million 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I sold my Ford stock too early.
@seprarep
@seprarep 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual Sandy. I want to hate it because I am a Tesla fan boy. But it’s looking more like Ford did a great job. And this is just their first really good shot at it they can just get better from here. The big caveat… wait until you try to go charge it it’s going to be the VW all over again
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it Inside EV's have done numerous road trips and weren't impressed by the battery/ charge.
@KabatDaniel
@KabatDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
So advanced, so many different inventions compared to the iD4 yet when I test drove the Mach-E back to back with the iD4, the iD4 felt that tad bit more composed, comfortable, softer yet stiffer around the bends. It might look good underneath but Ford could most definitely put down more time dialing it in.
@hellcat1988
@hellcat1988 3 жыл бұрын
Given the "wants to jump off the road when you hit a bump" issue that the expeditions have when the rear control arm bushings wear out, I see many of these being serviced regularly for the same issue with that rear suspension design.
@Daddo22
@Daddo22 3 жыл бұрын
I personally don't like the look of Mustang Mach-E from outside, and I hate the volume wheel in the center screen, but I very much like what Sandy uncovered for us so far.
@tymateysz
@tymateysz 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. Very excited myself as my Fusion is ageing and I hope those solution will be implemented in other future Ford's EVs.
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 3 жыл бұрын
Great work and thanks for sharing! Makes me consider one even more. Too bad the current charging curves on DC are strange.
@jasons7044
@jasons7044 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being honest and impartial. I currently own a Model3 and a 06 F150 . Having mostly owned Fords all my life. I hate hearing Tesla fan boys bashing everything that is not Tesla
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 3 жыл бұрын
Usually it's for good reason, most other legacy designs are lazy compliance attempts. The Mach-E design here, on the other hand, seems to be a good one relative to the rest of the market, with the exception of Korean makers perhaps, for example. And on the software side they seem to be doing better than the other legacies, so that's good to see, and maybe they'll polish it further with OTAs hopefully. It certainly seems better than what we saw with VW in the earlier ID4 teardown. The only thing Ford needs to do is make these in proper quantities so they can drop costs. I'm worried about them planning around VW's MEB platform in Europe, they seem to have a better solution here to build on imho.
@gregfredericks5201
@gregfredericks5201 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy et all for another great video. Ford, huh who would have thought it was that good.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Dee-ou7vd
@Dee-ou7vd 3 жыл бұрын
Love your honest review
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva 3 жыл бұрын
And nary a Ford logo to be seen! 👍🏻 They've really done a nice work with this car.
@maxsec2
@maxsec2 3 жыл бұрын
the reservior is for motor heat recovery to help the heat pump and battery temps esp for arriving at a Rapid with a nice warm battery maybe??????
@DaveGee2010
@DaveGee2010 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a Tesla Model 3 owner and Tesla fan I'm very happy to hear from Mr. Munro (a real pro with some really high honors and marks) that Ford has taken this EV seriously!!! The biggest problem now is getting the deals ( the front line sales force) to actually SELL these cars... I don't expect EVERYONE to buy a Tesla and I want people buying other EV brands to get a quality product... Don't want EVs to get a bad image...
@chiahuanlee
@chiahuanlee 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy forgot to say “keep tipping those cashiers”. Lol.
@gregappelt
@gregappelt 3 жыл бұрын
I am not an F fan. I do not have faith in 'The Big 3' or in any legacy auto maker. BUT, having someone I respect like Sandy do an honest factual inspection of the Mach-E is making me at least consider it as a fair competitor to Tesla. The more true EV competition there is, the faster ICE will fade away.
@andrewmeehan6151
@andrewmeehan6151 3 жыл бұрын
We need affordable EVs though. It will be years before 50k compact SUVs become the norm. If this was 35k they'd be selling like hotcakes.
@samesch85
@samesch85 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmeehan6151 these start at $43k. With the federal tax credit they are under $36k. They are already selling like hot cakes. Wait for a premium model is 6+ months.
@andrewmeehan6151
@andrewmeehan6151 3 жыл бұрын
@@samesch85 Well, of course but that is because Biden is giving away all this money. If people had to pay full price themselves it'd be a different story. Tax credits gotta go, we can't afford that.
@spfappy
@spfappy 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmeehan6151 The EV tax credit was passed by Congress under Obama about a decade ago. Biden hasn't done anything for it... yet.
@AnimEva_33
@AnimEva_33 3 жыл бұрын
Mach e is such an underated car! Love that it is already eating into Tesla huge percentage in sales
@shankarjasti444
@shankarjasti444 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Sandy excite this much even with Tesla. Makes me to follow Ford vehicles and it's financials. Couldn't wait for tear down of Mach E.
@SkrapsView
@SkrapsView 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy is great. Unfortunately, his understanding and assumptions of market share is incorrect 6:45. The overall EV market is growing, which is taking from ICE vehicles in general, not from Tesla. The EV pie is getting bigger; the ICE pie is getting smaller; Tesla's EV piece is growing, but overall % is shrinking with new entrants. However, Ford's ICE business is shrinking while it's EV business grows; thus, it is also plausible to deduce that Ford's EV market is cannibalizing its own ICE market (let me say this again, not Tesla's). Someone who buys a Mach-E is most likely not seriously considering a technology vehicle like Tesla.
@garfieldchenyu1
@garfieldchenyu1 3 жыл бұрын
That report is from Morgan Stanley, you should argue with them.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeperanddown It's meaningless except to morons.
@lubbas72
@lubbas72 3 жыл бұрын
The lower bolt on the inner control arm looks to be too long. Why didnt they choose a slightly shorter bolt?
@krisvandermeulen253
@krisvandermeulen253 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see that Ford is doing their best and pushing their limits further than VW
@silverback3633
@silverback3633 3 жыл бұрын
I own a ford in Canada. This piece is still a ford when it comes to mitigating the rust problem.
@otm646
@otm646 3 жыл бұрын
The whole suspension is aluminum, there's almost no steel there besides the trailing arm links. Body corrosion is going to be your only concern, not the undercarriage or suspension rusting away on you. This is similar construction to a 10 year old BMW or Mercedes their only corrosion concern is body rust.
@jimbert50
@jimbert50 3 жыл бұрын
In your recent live question and answer session you said that Tesla has no competitors. From these Mach-E videos, it sounds like maybe they do.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
We shall see!
@kennyg1358
@kennyg1358 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I you look at engineering and manufacturing in isolation. Software and charging infrastructure isn't close. Not to mention the stealership model.
@Switzerland1291
@Switzerland1291 3 жыл бұрын
Keep tipling those cashiers ;-)
@juliahello6673
@juliahello6673 3 жыл бұрын
This just doesn’t look like a Ford. Highest praise.
@a_r_u_n7595
@a_r_u_n7595 3 жыл бұрын
Munro : this Ford's battery is easier to remove. Also Munro : Tesla's structural battery are great
@johnhjic2
@johnhjic2 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a good looking vehicle to, and from what your showing us well done Ford.
@kartikkarteek
@kartikkarteek 3 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a full teardown of the Mach-E ?
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we are!
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive That will be quite interesting, thank you in advance.
@DavidSpiers
@DavidSpiers 3 жыл бұрын
I like hearing good things about 'legacy' car makers. well done FMC
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 3 жыл бұрын
My 2001 Focus runs like new , I love Ford.
@TangledThorns
@TangledThorns 3 жыл бұрын
This just gets me excited for FORD's electric F-150.
@MrFoxRobert
@MrFoxRobert 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JoseGonzalez-oe8ly
@JoseGonzalez-oe8ly 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy The rear suspension has little route and when it rolls in the street it throws the mustang as if it no longer has shock absorbers, I think they should put gas Shock absorbers at high pressure.
@Johnny2Feathers
@Johnny2Feathers 3 жыл бұрын
Well Ford seems to have made a good ev. Good to see that American automakers are best again. Tesla and Ford for the wins
@hagestad
@hagestad 3 жыл бұрын
wait how is tesla American? most factories and suppliers are not from US. Their media man Elon is from RSA. If u look at their suppliers its mostly European and Asian companies.
@Johnny2Feathers
@Johnny2Feathers 3 жыл бұрын
@@hagestad Most factories and employees are in the US and it’s headquarters like where it started and operates from is in the USA. Elon considers himself an American first and foremost ever since he became a citizen and left SA behind a long time ago and never looked back... now look at him. Do some homework kid. Tesla AND Ford are American companies. Don’t be such a butthurt hater
@TheRosebudz
@TheRosebudz 3 жыл бұрын
made in mexico
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny2Feathers Opinions backed up by nothing but ignorance is pretty common these days. The information age has actually created a larger population of lazy fools.
@N7_Maric
@N7_Maric 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRosebudz and well built per Sandy Munro!
@2namtaB
@2namtaB 3 жыл бұрын
Would not be suprised if all the Mache E's sold are to dealerships who had to buy and now have them hidden away as they don't wish to sell them. They won't be making any money on servicing them so won't want to sell them. Just like as what happened to VW ID3's, after initial launch they are nowhere now.
@rjgallman4916
@rjgallman4916 3 жыл бұрын
So far... So good. 😁
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
so far FORD Muck-e has low sales , and cannot Smoke a Model Y. ELON , said he plans to ramp Model Y and OUTSELL Toyota in 2022.
@tomknop8675
@tomknop8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 as a Tesla fanboy, you overdo it. I am happy the transition is happening
@Rick9482
@Rick9482 3 жыл бұрын
Well I gotta admit, I'm impressed that Sandy is impressed with the Ford. Certainly changed my opinion of Ford's efforts. I would never buy another Ford because of past experience but I'm impressed nevertheless.
@jacobh4516
@jacobh4516 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Ford bought the Tesla tear down from Sandy before designing their car.
@johnvolt9605
@johnvolt9605 3 жыл бұрын
The Mach E is not eating Tesla market share it is eating ICE market share. Tesla had huge growth (Q1 sales more than doubled over last year) while Ford EV sales developed. While the EV market grows and more manufactures enter the market Tesla’s % of EV sales will look like it is declining. That is just how the math works. To understand the true picture we should be looking at each companies share of the total US and word markets. That is the end-game, not getting the largest portion of the tiny niche that the EV market is today.
@JFK3-1
@JFK3-1 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, there's a drain and fill plug. There is no doubt lol. Thanks for some clear video of undercarriage.
@MrZrryan2
@MrZrryan2 3 жыл бұрын
two speed gear box in the rear end, uses Mercon fluid. Same as Porsche... a lot of pro's and cons to having a two speed rear end. Most of the pro's = efficiency. Most of the cons = money.
@OnkyoGrady
@OnkyoGrady 3 жыл бұрын
hold on a second. Their choice of a simpler building material for a suspension component needs to be measured against performance and NVH metrics, not just manufacturing cost. This is not a random bracket supporting a dash panel or accessory. TBH, I'd gladly pay more per part on the suspension side of the car, or in the transmission, provided there was a subjective gain to be had there.
@im4udevco
@im4udevco 3 жыл бұрын
I see that the half shafts are rusting already. Is this going to be an issue long term or is it that due to all that torque, the strongest half shafts will rust? What kind of metal is it anyway? Yes Sandy, we can see the excitement and someone at Ford should be taking constructive feedback from you. Thanks to you and your team.
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