Cutting the Notch More Short Bar Technique

[@BrendonHoppy]

Thanks Daniel I am sure that I will stay alive a few years longer, thanks to your videos, Where I live two of my neighbors have already killed themselves, on from the barber chair, which you have explained so well in your other videos, and I love the way that you used straps to stop the barber chair on rootten trunks I don't know how the other neighbor killed himself we are only 3 properties, I have been close to killing myself too, as I have no tutors and I have had to learn the hard way I love to see how cool and calm you are having all this knowledge! You probably have saved many lives already (including mine) with your tutorials I am really grateful to you for your time and help.

[@murphy4trees]

WOW! sorry to hear about your neighbor's. And thank you for the kudos. Glad to hear that these vids are helping people.. feel free to come back with nay question you might have.

[@BrendonHoppy]

How can I send you a video of my next widow-maker? I would love your opinion as it scares the hell outta me

[@murphy4trees]

just post it up on youtube and send me the link.. post up on youtube and send the link Or look me up.. wayne PA and email

[@BrendonHoppy]

@@murphy4trees I don't know how to send you a link,, where can I look you up as wayne PA?? I still need to get that widow maker down before it falls on a passer-by on the road, Thankyou 😉

[@murphy4trees]

@@BrendonHoppy ya wayne PA .. not hard to find. give me a call

[@murphy4trees]

Billy, August, Reg, and Jack (hotsaws 101) are all excellent fallers. You are not going to be able to fall trees as they do overnight. It takes good training and years of practice. This technique is made to help those with less falling skills be able to cut a clean notch every time. Taking a few seconds to pop out the initial wedge, opens up a great line of sight which is much easier to see exactly where the tip of the bar is. I admire those west coast fallers and others, but I'm not trying to be like them. I don't need to cut a Humboldt much, so I never bothered getting good at it. Though its on my bucket list! They show what can be done and that is valuable to allow us to watch and imitate.

[@ericconner9971]

As a newb to this skill set ( just bought a house with land a trees, these videos are a wealth of knowledge and very appreciated. Especially since you explain it well and don’t talk down to a chump like me. Thank you , Daniel.

[@jolkraeremeark6949]

I would also like to see how you went about the back cut, Daniel Murphy.

[@matthewpolo227]

INTERESTING VID..I LIKE THAT TECHNIQUE RIPPIN THE MIDDLE AND TAKING TWO PIECES..NEVER SEEN THAT TILL NOW.. THE NARRATION IS KEY..THANKS FOR KEEPING US INFORMED.

[@seanmchugh4283]

Matthew Polo, not wishing to take away from Daniel Murphys videos because he really knows his stuff (and by the way thanks for all the videos Daniel) but you wana check out some of Bjarne Buttlers older videos, he uses very similar techniques but on a massive scale, he even cuts out a large section of the middle of the face cut to fit the saw further in to the center of the tree when he is plunging out the heart of the tree. It's hard to explain but amazing to watch.

[@climbe4422]

Bjarne Buttler is an amazing west coast faller

[@climbe4422]

A good video daniel .it makes sense for an arborist to do it differently because we are not loggers working in the woods.

[@markmarescalco1039]

Great great tip. Thank you for all time you put in for our benefit.

[@patriotarborist711]

At 2:55 "it's a fairly big tree" LMAO, where I am (North Texas) that would be a monster and would be a major event! Thanks for the educational videos, Daniel!

[@jerrudmikolaiczik7004]

been watching alot of your videos recently. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and some of your techniques. Good stuff.

[@johnkomosa4089]

Thankyou for your time, I learn more with every video. Nice work. .

[@ericcote132]

Very nice explanations!

[@TowMater]

It was a nice video Thank you. You say you have trouble matching the cuts up, suggestion maybe do some watching of techniques that West Coast fallers use and then when you have large trees take some home and practice the techniques maybe? Just a thought. A good faller I commonly watch is Buckin Billy Ray. He is good and drops trees in tight very tight areas. Hopefully, this helps. And thank you for the good videos you provide as well.

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

Murphy no joke he knows his shit😁👍

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

Top cut look down groove to not by pass

[@murphy4trees]

Billy, August, Reg, and Jack (hotsaws 101) are all excellent fallers. You are not going to be able to fall trees as they do overnight. It takes good training and years of practice. This technique is made to help those with less falling skills be able to cut a clean notch every time. Taking a few seconds to pop out the initial wedge, opens up a great line of sight which is much easier to see exactly where the tip of the bar is. I admire those west coast fallers and others, but I'm not trying to be like them. I don't need to cut a Humboldt much, so I never bothered getting good at it. Though its on my bucket list! They show what can be done and that is valuable to allow us to watch and imitate.

[@andrewhealy6182]

Super video Daniel. I'm in Valley Forge on the mountain and have this exact same situation with my 18" bar on a 22 inch trunk and was unsure if the smaller bar was feasible. Thanks

[@silversurfer1289]

Great video

[@TomWylie]

Thanks Daniel, great technique I'm going to practice.

[@claytonclark6320]

Great video. I've only dropped approx. 2-3 doz trees this size. I always use a long bar and make my horizontal cut first. I think I will use this technique next time. BTW, you robbed us; you ALWAYS drop the tree for the viewers! LOL, stay safe.

[@evang6503]

I like your term x-ray vision I also use this to describe seeing how many tops could be in a tree etc. those of us who have been doing this work for a long time understand it I also make these multiple pieces out face cut above structures so that only slivers fall out instead of one big face

[@ferrallderrall6588]

Cool to mention the west coast, but we have seen you tango with some highly hazardous tree work,and this information helpful for any of us short bar crowd lol

[@ebutuoyssa]

When you said "Schmutz"- I knew this was going to be fun. I'm sure you'll get lots of critique, but after many years of fireline cutting where procedure and exposure time is critical, this was really fun to watch. I'm going to mess around with this cut. Who knows...it might just solve some issues. But PLEASE get some saw chaps. We need to keep you around.

[@murphy4trees]

thanks man... I'm feeling the love

[@fredcarter5394]

Great job! Not production felling?

[@murphy4trees]

no .. this is professional suburban tree work as performed by an arborist. The guys who fall trees all day long every day are working in the woods. No way to get that kind of experience in the backyard. I get criticized by some of these fallers, but it's like comparing apples to oranges, except they look a lot alike in this scenario. Saving a minute or two on each fall makes big difference to a logger. Whereas, it means almost nothing to me, compared to making sure the tree makes the lay. I developed techniques that provide the confidence needed to drop hairy trees, without needing the type of skill and ability that comes from dropping trees all day, every day. Thanks for asking

[@lucfournier3939]

Thanks again for tips@

[@w0rsel]

Excellent point

[@ArbitraryLifestyle]

Would love to have watched the back notch being cut too.

[@coryboettcher9702]

Nice video Daniel, I’m a fan of longer bars myself but nonetheless it’s another trick added to the toolbox. Have you considered a set of full wrap handlebars for that 660?

[@506curtis]

yea interesting technique thank you for sharing

[@ironleatherwood1357]

Great learning experience

[@shader26]

I’m not experienced enough to judge if this is a good technique. But I do think, don’t know, that the vertical angled cut you have less chance of the tree shifting and binding the chainsaw? I’m actually asking, I don’t know. Also, I’ve seen different things about the back cut where some have it angling in slightly, only slightly, instead of being horizontal. Is one more safe? I would think too angling slightly would make sure the tree doesn’t go the opposite way until you can get in some wedges?

[@murphy4trees]

no sir... what keeps the tree from sitting back and pinching the bar is lean, nothing to do with the back cut. High set ropes pulled with equipment by men who know what's going on is best insurance. wedges are a long way off in second place

[@shader26]

@@murphy4trees thanks for the informstion!

[@ferrallderrall6588]

Another great video,keep safe bro

[@InDisTREETV]

awesome video..thanks for sharing.....I think falling whole trees is a weak point in my game.....I don't get a opportunity to do it very often so I think I'm more hesitant when the opportunity presents itself....I love watching people set up and perform precision drops

[@spikenz2]

Thanks Daniel good information no bull shit just what I’m after thanks

[@his18v2000]

Awesome technically

[@kivaswander5537]

This will save me So much time pounding with a hammer thank youuuuu

[@nannettebattista6224]

I have done very similar with Woodprix designs.

[@murphy4trees]

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