Muse vs Minimoog Model D - Blind Test REVEALED

[@christopherprice3226]

I enjoyed the comparisons and your final critique of the MUSE. I bought and got mine day of release.Still trying to find its sweet spots. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@AllenMichael]

Thanks my friend! I made this super awesome dual program called "secret organ". Its only four notes but WOW lol

[@payt01]

The Muse is it's own thing. I've started making some actual music with mine yesterday, and it's just a dream to work with. All the sounds fit in the mix so easily, and when it all comes together it sounds marvellous :)

[@AllenMichael]

@ I agree! For the most part, the muse has the spirt of the minimoog

[@christopherprice3226]

@@AllenMichael It is but a bit deeper, mines been warming up for 2 hours. Ready to commune for a bit. Trying to find my sound aka voice. Hope you post another Muse video soon. I love them watched each at least 3 times.

[@AllenMichael]

@@payt01 I agree! It takes some time to learn its strengths. Used it on a song I’m almost done with. Worked beautifully.

[@rumo201]

Muse is a great synth. Model D is nice vintage gear, without anything a modern synth need.

[@AllenMichael]

@@rumo201 they are both good! Once moog fixes the bugs I think it’ll be even better. But , having other options are good. Muse + minimoog + oberheim + prophet. And you do need a legit vintage synth

[@samprock]

I can’t tell them apart and need both! ❤ Should probably ask 12 cents discount and admit I’m a moogacholic when get my Muse 😂 Can’t wait to finish some work at work, get Muse, and deep dive into baby making music. Thanks for moogalicious sounds and entertainment, Allen!

[@oscarvanderburgh9915]

What do you think of the resonance? Of the Muse?. I have to get used to it… it’s really sharp to me. I have to play with the different slopes of the decay to see if I can get it more resonant over time without self oscillation

[@fogbongler]

Nice vid! Got a Minimoog here I love it. Wish I could afford a Muse also! What’s that track in the vid during your wrap up? Thanks

[@AllenMichael]

@@fogbongler minimoog love, it sounds more pleasing to my ears. You can tell if you listen to the resonance. The track is an instrumental I made

[@critterkllr]

@@AllenMichaelI always find this take interesting, because outside of the audio world, people like SMD because it’s significantly easier to repair if you have the right tips. I would say it’s a lot more difficult to trace a multi layer SMD PCB without a schematic though.

[@djdksf1]

Fun comparison. There are definitely subtle differences here where the Minimoog sounds a little thicker, especially on filter sweeps (of course, you can't throw the Minimoog into unison and instantly get 8 voices of GNAR with the push of a button either 😝) I'm hopeful the tuning issues will be resolved with firmware updates soon. I've done a full tune 2X so far. I never owned a Model D, but I'm about two months in with my Muse and it just keeps unfolding. The dual filters and mod osc are game changers and really straight out of the modular playbook. That's not even counting the ridonculous generative arp and sequencer possibilities.) And, yes, most of the patches I've made so far are performance-oriented splits - from Zawinul to Banks and everything in between. It's just too much fun.

[@oscarvanderburgh9915]

For instance… 3B. They both start around the same sound… but the resonance drops when the filter turns down… I think this could be nudged in the menu’s

[@critterkllr]

The lows on the Model D are much louder. Muse is cutting off lows for sure, but to be honest if it didn’t, it would just be a muddy mess with the poly. Also if I’m mixing the Model D with any other instruments, I’m probably high passing that anyway. The Muse has a great presence. I think they compliment each other well, but the Muse is clearly significantly more capable.

[@AllenMichael]

Yes, almost like a HPF

[@smartti1970]

thanks for the video, are you selling the Minimoog ?

[@AllenMichael]

@@smartti1970 👍🏻. No. I like what the minimoog does. Especially when linked up with a linndrum via trigger gate

[@smartti1970]

@@AllenMichael ok i see , so it brings it's thing... thanks for sharing

[@AllenMichael]

@ yes. The muse cannot replace the minimoog. The minimoog is its own thang. Idk if you had a chance to really listen to the examples. But it’s pretty revealing

[@dvamateur]

I am not entirely sure about the sound differences. To me, personally, all synthesizers capable of producing square/sawtooth/triangle/white noise waves sound the same. Just like all guitars, basses, and pianos sound the same. If they don’t, you can equalize them all with EQ. I feel that the amount of romanticization af the sound by gear lovers can reach absurd levels.

[@McEnroe911]

I wanna step into your world. ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@RayyMusik]

You obviously used a Minimoog reissue (with MIDI). Would be interesting if a vintage Model D made a greater difference.

[@AllenMichael]

@@RayyMusik yeah. I think. I’ve played a few vintage ones and I think they have a bit more charm. So the mini reissue , I like because it’s thru hole ! Not the smd stuff. I like thru hole because it CAN be repaired. Better investment :-)

[@tanner6871]

Lose the background music in the commentary -- too distracting.

[@AllenMichael]

@@tanner6871 it’s too groovy bruh!

[@kierenmoore3236]

If it stayed in tune, it wouldn’t be a Moog polysynth … 😉

[@VincentPresley]

My polymoog and One stay in tune.

[@spurv]

a = muse, b = mini

[@mickeythompson9537]

Muse sounds like a VST by comparison.

[@lavoltabbona]

That mean you guessed all the correct answers in the blind test?

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@lavoltabbona. I did But polysynths are ‘always’ voiced a little ‘weaker’ than monos, for obvious reason …

[@antegeia-p6c]

muse was a big disappointment

[@AllenMichael]

@@antegeia-p6c I think once moog gets an update going it should be stable enough. Here are my suggestions to fix - midi response - tuning - add global tuning - store midi data with patch data

[@LarryJanca]

my behringer model D or my behringer poly D can sound just about identical

[@AllenMichael]

Identical yes. I find the Behringer stuff to sound a bit harsh.

[@VincentPresley]

Muse sounds very meh and generic compared to the Mini which is obviously a reissue that sounds very meh compared to an original mini, multi, sonic vi, etc. The Muse should be a $1500 synth.

[@oscarvanderburgh9915]

Let me tell you that… if the Muse is used in a hit, or classic movie tomorrow; everyone would be after the sound…

[@VincentPresley]

@ Maybe. I’ve never been influenced by hits and nobody else I work with is either. But yeah, there’s a lot of sheep. That doesn’t change the fact that this is a really mediocre synth.

[@oscarvanderburgh9915]

@@VincentPresleyobjectively; it’s nothing other/more than what we have already seen in the past… apart from some minor extra features; but it’s a quality instrument and has a moog sound. Subjectively; Some people love it, or will grow towards it… others don’t gel with it. It’s all fine. I think calling it mediocre needs a bit more explanation… cause objectively … you might see it that way when looking through innovation glasses… but… there are other ways to look at it.

[@VincentPresley]

@ I get that. But I’m looking at it through the glasses of someone that has had 150 synths and buys something every month. I’m basing my view on the sound, the build, and the price. And for that price I find it incredibly mediocre. It’s a $1500 synth at best.

[@oscarvanderburgh9915]

@@VincentPresleyyou might be right. I mean with Moog you pay for the brand as well… there is no reason at all for buying amazing poly’s for more then a few hundred dollars and have great fun with it… i even have a yamaha pss that I love for it’s sound and features… Personally I hate it when there is a Behringer logo on a synth… and I’m willing to pay more to have a Moog logo on it. Does it sound better? I’m not sure. Do I like it? Yes :D

[@HanzVolt]

Sorry… not a fan of this vid. Not even a lil👌🏼Your technical breakdown of the Muse reminds me of the info I get from Home Depot workers... ya know.

[@AllenMichael]

@@HanzVolt I ain’t a tech synth reviewer my guy… Just a musician (who loves oldersynths) giving my experience with it. Totally unscripted keepin it 💯

[@ChimeraGilbert]

I liked it. Not scripted, just candid thoughts. I would just suggest lowering the background music volume a bit

[@DankePlace]

@@AllenMichael I would just ignore him, he mods (if that's what you call it) for 2 of the lamest channels on YT, and he relies heavily on AI to make his vids, which is kind of ironic when he complains about your vid.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

I thought it was a great demo, and musically interesting too. Gave me a chance to listen to how different the gates and envelopes and stuff behaved in a musical context. Thanks dude, I really appreciate your vid.