Museum of Historic Military Vehicles (And Aerotrains!) Faces Demolition

Anyone got a spare warehouse?
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Aerotrain archive footage thanks to Les Amis de l'Ingénieur Jean Bertin - www.jean-bertin.fr/

[@danielbarreiro8228]

The half-track Madrid you show did not fight in the Spanish Civil war, its crew did, and they are named after battles in the Civil War in which they fought. The vehicles themselves landed in Normandy shortly after D-Day with their Spanish crews that had arrived by ship in Britain from Morocco. It was part of La Nueve (in Spanish "The Ninth") en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Nueve In fact, most if not all of the half-tracks in the picture of the liberation parade you show later had Spanish crews. They had been fighting fascism since 1936 in Spain, North Africa and France, and unacknowledged until recently (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Nueve#Aftermath_and_tributes). At the time, they were the most veteran, battle-hardened troops the Allies had.

[@TheTimTraveller]

Ah you're absolutely right Daniel. Christophe told me that the half-track "belonged to La Nueve, who fought against Franco" and in my head, I understood that the vehicle itself fought against Franco. But I realise now that's not quite what he was saying. Thank you for the correction.

[@ceecrb1]

@@TheTimTraveller Thus proving that the quickest way to find the truth on the internet is to post something incorrect and await the person who comes to correct you! Always faster than asking for the answer to a question lol!

[@FrietjeOorlog]

@@ceecrb1 Hooray for pedantry!

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

@@ceecrb1 Whilst I begrudgingly acknowledge the truth of what you say, I fear that you are sailing perilously close to the annoying habit of a very large proportion of fellow You Tubers who happen to be under the age of forty. That is to say, those lazy barstewards who post a question with no intention of expending even the tiniest effort to find out the answer themselves. More often than not, it'll not only be in the comments, but those posted really recently. These morons are a product of the style of pussy-footing education systems around the world of late and to an extent know no better. How they get through life with this little intuition is beyond me. In fact, I'm off now to look it up.

[@bruceyoung1343]

I do hope they find a home.

[@davidrichter57]

SOS indeed! Sadly, I'm all out of spare French warehouses on the west side of Paris.

[@DawidSikora]

Similarly here, at this moment I have 0 free warehouses near Paris, however, I know someone who also doen't have any

[@perekman3570]

Seems like a good way to get demonetized, though. Not good for revenues to donate.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Loved hearing ABBA then very appropriate

[@Vanatice]

@@perekman3570 thats just Tim on his keyboard lol not the actual song

[@Shmoozo55]

Given the general avoidance of long distance travel which I have developed as I have aged, it is a near certainty that I will never travel from America to France to see this collection, but I do want others to be able to see it. For this reason I have sent a modest €50.00 donation to Univem using the link provided and I hope that others who are able will send a bit, as well.

[@TheTimTraveller]

Thank you!

[@ryan-magrela]

Just for thr sake of curiosity, how old are you? I'm in my lates 30s, just got home from an hour drive to the nearest city and feel this avoidance thqt you mention.

[@chrissmith8773]

I really hope they find some new premises that allows them to become a more established museum. It is history that cannot afford to be lost.

[@dodaexploda]

If they open a museum where you can go for a drive in one of the vehicles. I think they would have a great method of funding it. I would totally want to go for a ride on one.

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

@@dodaexplodathey did that. All the vehicles work and were used for parades and stuff. And you could help them and work in them as a volunteer and go for rides

[@dodaexploda]

@@PatricioGarcia1973 oh,I believe it. I'm just thinking it would be cool if that was part of the museum. In Ontario Canada we have a warplane museum and you can buy tickets to fly in the old warplanes. They would need to find a museum space which facilitated them taking the vehicles on trips. Like a nice sized pond to drive amphibious vehicles through. They could probably do like 5-10 trips a day and sell tickets for them. You also need to make sure your fleet can handle it.

[@Wooargh]

Google, Microsoft, Meta, and Wikipedia are busy censoring all Fascism from the Internet to prepare the world for a wonderful new central government and economy. It is up to all us to support them and spread this censorship to the real world. Once everyone has united under one flag there will no more need for vehicles like this or for anyone to remember that they existed.

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

This is what happens when your government doesn't give a s*** about history. All modern day museums are just a tourist trap.

[@joermnyc]

I love how they’ve not only preserved the vehicles, but also are keeping them in working order. It’s like Jay Leno’s Garage, but for military vehicles.

[@kmw4359]

Inspiration! Going to try tagging them in this.

[@CouchPotator]

idea! contact J-Leno! I know he has no connections to france, but I'm sure this would be a cause he could get behind.

[@kmw4359]

@@CouchPotator If you know how to send a message to him please do so. Or, if you’re going to put a comment on one of his videos, suggest picking one about historical cars or trucks. I tried putting on on a video about 8 months ago about a car/truck combo.

[@nikdog419]

@@CouchPotator Most likely in his case, he'd be willing to save them in the final hour to add to his own collection in LA. I doubt he has interest in opening a museum in France. However, He probably does have connections in France, though most likely they're all Entertainment Industry and not Transportation/Logistics. He might know someone with the means and/or desire to open a museum in France.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

The last place these historic vehicles belong is in some rich talk show host's private collection, never to be seen by the public again. Not even in the country they belong in.

[@laurencet7032]

Tim, you're quite vocal and literal in French. Could be worth doing a video with you saying everything you said here, except in French rather than English (with also a French title and also French language hashtags)... This should help get the word out in the French speaking internet and world as well as the english speaking one.

[@AsplundhFamily]

Sérieux, j'aimerais vraiment des vidéos en français de la part de Tim. Je suis francophone du Canada et, ayant été en France, l'expérience en tant que personne qui parle français mais sans un accent de la République est assez fascinante et pourrait créer du contenu intéressant.

[@testman9541]

Unfortunnatly YT do not support multilingual streaming.... This is really a limitation that YT do not seem to care much about.

[@sarahprunierlaw9147]

re-releasing in french does seam like a good idea Tim!

[@leoncaples2947]

KZbin is working on a new feature that will automatically translate any video to many fluid, natural languages via AI software and a wide array of voices.

[@testman9541]

@@leoncaples2947 What we need is multiple audio chanel first and now. This tech is on TV for decades... GG has issue with tech ? 🤔 I don't think so...

[@briancjohnson]

Signed and donated! This keeps happening, and it is such sadness.

[@TheTimTraveller]

Thank you!

[@gunner678]

@@TheTimTraveller Hi, I live in South West France, near Rochefort (i am also retired military). There is a naval aviation museum in Rochefort, next to the Ecole de Gendarmerie Nationale. There are plenty of buildings, garages and hangers that are empty i believe. I know its not Paris, but its a safe place until a closer location to the present one is found. I am sure the military vehicle association members will be listened to favourably by people of like mind. Worth a try!

[@MrDuduril]

They should contact Bertin technologie. They are the company that created the aérotrain. They still exist and have maquette and a bust of Bertin at their offices. They should be able to help.

[@Bruce954]

It sounds like they are in a SOS-situation indeed, hope they will find a spot.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

All they need is a super trouper to take a chance on them and supply some Money, Money, Money.

[@BaldurvanLew]

@@Alex-cw3rz Hopefully the telephone will ring, ring, with someone asking "Voulez vous un vieux hangar" otherwise it could be their Waterloo

[@Bruce954]

I really hope someone takes a chance on them, so that they can say I do I do I do want to have that space.

[@gunner678]

For the Aerotrains (and the military kit), speak to the aviation museum in Rochefort south west France, if a place cannot be found close to the present location. It is an old maritime aviation base, next to the Ecole de Gendarmerie Nationale (real problem with predictive text folks, it has a mind of it's own). Worth a try, they have space.

[@conhand.3578]

*Gendarmerie

[@gunner678]

@@conhand.3578 predictive text, its a real pain.

[@yeoldeseawitch]

@@gunner678 what about Citu du Train? its a rail museum

[@RegebroRepairs]

The Aerotrain really belongs at Art et Metiers, but I guess they don't have space as they have SO MANY AMAZING THINGS!

[@alexisdufrenoy1573]

Would be worth asking...

[@tomjoad1363]

Or it could join the train museum in Mulhouse.

[@ianrobinson3017]

Interestingly, the musée des Arts et Métiers exhibited the Amédée Bollée vehicle L'Obéissante - built at Le Mans in 1873 and celebrating its 150th birthday - at Retromobile. There's a You Tube vison oif how they transported it!. I'm sure they are supportive of the Univem appeal but space for the Aerotrains but space is always at a premium in museums.

[@RegebroRepairs]

@@ianrobinson3017 They also have Joseph Cugnot's 1770 Fardier à Vapeur, which was not successful, but still the world's first self-propelled vehicle. And they have the first plane to fly across the channel, etc. It's an amazing collection.

[@tenalafel]

I agree they both would be a nice addition to the Musée des Arts & Métiers.

[@DavidBennettPiano]

The attention to detail in your music choices is fantastic and I hope it isn’t lost on other viewers! 😊

[@Goldfire-tt3dv]

Art this point, it's become a tradition for a Tim Traveller video to play "recognize the tune". This time, it's "SOS" by ABBA.

[@rhas356]

@@Goldfire-tt3dv We also get the BBC theme tune just before the UNIVEM president speaks

[@MianCowell]

Unfortunately this is happening to small museums all over. Heritage is rarely profitable and unless they own the land they're on, it's a ticking clock until they get kicked out.

[@Legomastr365]

Honestly with the reach your channel has sometimes I wouldn't be surprised if someone came along and said they have a spare French building near the outskirts of Versailles

[@ZGryphon]

I love the philosophy behind UNIVEM; it reminds me of one of my favorite museums here in the US, the Owls Head Transportation Museum in Owls Head, Maine, where they have a similar dedication to keeping the collection working. I have a special fondness for museums that prioritize the integrity of the collection over a shiny presentation.

[@Lawman212]

Owls Head is enormous and amazing. Univem should check them out for ideas.

[@suddendeath2285]

I love owls head I grew up in Maine and my mom would take me when ever we had the extra funds

[@ems4884]

That's a VERY costly venture.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Love the use of SOS by ABBA at the end, I guess Money, Money, Money or Take a Chance on me (a French Museuem) would work as well

[@oheijnen]

I picked up on the ABBA part but didn't actively identify the song. Good choice indeed. :)

[@jeffreybruner5462]

Thank you Alex! I was hoping someone would identify the song :)

[@brianmckeever5280]

The song "SOS" was a nice touch!

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Mamma Mia, this is certainly an SOS, they just need a super trouper, to take a chance on them and supply some Money, Money, Money.

[@oheijnen]

That was so bad that it looped right back to being brilliant again. :D

[@alexisdufrenoy1573]

There are some museums about railways in the Ile-de-France region. Wouldn't they be interested in preserving those Aérotrain prototypes? There are Rosny-Rail in Rosny-sous-Bois and the Musée vivant du chemin de fer in Longueville. And there are several other museums in France which could be interested, but which are more distant, like the Cité du Train in Mulhouse.

[@tomjoad1363]

Sadly public money in France either goes to strangers or foreign countries rather than cultural and historical french associations. All of those non profit organisation don't have enough cash to host those prototype. Sad.

[@MrJimheeren]

@@tomjoad1363 oh please. Stop it with this populist bullshit

[@daktari]

@@tomjoad1363 It's not about cash, it's about space. Most of the Paris region has been forced into redevelopment. UNIVEM started in the close suburbs of Paris, but had to move once already to the current space, in Satory. Now Satory (which is a military base) is being redevelopped, because Versailles and Paris can make a buck by doing so. UNIVEM doesn't have enough time to buy and build a space large enough for the collection. So cash would help, but space would help much, much more.

[@clementg2437]

@@tomjoad1363 Lol massive bullshit ! Most of cultural associations receive public funding and I won't stop on your "strangers & foreign countries" reac rhetoric. Surely many museums would love to get some of their vehicles but not host the entire collection which is a no-no for UNIVEM. And the way they work and use the vehicles doesn't match most museum's way of working.

[@walideg5304]

@@tomjoad1363 stop with this non sense. Association and NPO are massively helped in France.

[@t16205]

These are important historic artefacts. They must be preserved!

[@FARBerserker]

abba SOS in the background . . nice touch!

[@sanashi27]

Good luck to them! I hope they find a place before their time there is up. It's great they're trying to preserve historic vehicles and I hope they're able to do that for a long time.

[@PurelyCoincidental]

M. Hillebrand is adorable...of course, I may be a little biased, since my father is also a antique car guy and military history nerd. It's oddly heart-warming to see such love for these old military vehicles in a place so far away.

[@alainportant6412]

I grew up and have been living in Versailles for the last 25 years and I have never heard of that museum. They should get their shit together and advertise a little more, it's crazy that I've never heard of it. I went to high school 5 minutes nearby , they took us on a field trip as far as Berlin, so we could learn about WWII and whatever, while that living museum was sitting just here. It's also noteworthy that they are going to kick them out to make room for the Grand Paris train station, which is going to turn the peaceful city of Versailles into a hellhole by connecting it directly to the worst imaginable suburbs in the Paris Area ( Clichy, Bondy, Bobigny, Drancy, Aubervilliers etc... ) .

[@Guillermo.R.S.]

Loved the "SOS" song by the end of the vid.

[@conhand.3578]

Give us a freaking break with comments about the music.

[@Guillermo.R.S.]

@@conhand.3578 I can and will comment about anything I feel like, for this is a free forum. Your rudeness only shows your absolute lack of culture, so please refrain or else you will be reported and banned.

[@SYDTrainsFilms]

The Tim Traveller BBC Coundown slaps so good!

[@TheWZFilms]

Great video. My dad is a member of this museum-association. Any help in their quest for preservation of automotive history is appreciated.

[@DetroitMicroSound]

The abandoned F1 track section at Reims-Gueux, still hasn't found any love. All they need, is a big building on the site. Two different birds with one stone.

[@tenalafel]

Abandoned F1 track in France ... hmm... Several options Reims, Charade ( Clermont-Ferrand ), Pau... the problem is that they are not really abandoned.... they are now open road ( with the notable exception of a small part of Charade. )

[@DetroitMicroSound]

@@tenalafel Behind the stands at Reims would be a great place for a new museum. It could have racing, military, experimental, farming, steam, motorcycles, bicycles, mopeds..... France loves great museums! It would be a hit! The military vehicles and such, would get all the same visitors, and care, as F1/2 cars on display. It's farmland. Perfect place to build a small off-road course for the military vehicles, to get exercised, and possibly give a few rides, for a fee. Now you just need another patron with some French formula cars, that raced there in the day. All that's needed, is a big building, and parking structure/area, to start. Could host all sorts of events there, to raise capital... And work to preserve the original stands, and pit, so it is future-proofed. It would be easy to get well known personalities involved, and it would be news, because of it's history. The locals need to be included in the plans.

[@StoneCresent]

We need to get the word out to other KZbinrs and channels like TheCheiftain, Military History Visualized, and The Tank Encyclopedia. I am sure members of their subscriber bases will be interested in helping out.

[@rubenfaelens2127]

"Please support the causes you want to" -> proceeds to show picture of hospice car. Thank you Tim, be well.

[@mikosoft]

Playing SOS at the end was a nice touch

[@Damien.D]

From someone who have worked with "les amis de Jean Bertin" to do stuff regarding the Aerotrains, thanks for the help and telling this sad story.

[@miguelplano2538]

New Tim the traveller video. Must watch immediately!

[@vchiu9560]

French guy here who discovered the plight of this nice association thanks to your channel. I gave a donation, at least to express whatever little support i could give. Thank you for making this nice and caring video. Heritage is invaluable, and hence underevaluated...

[@douglasboyle6544]

I just had a quick read through all the comments because if anyone would I was fully expecting someone in the ever resourceful audience of this channel to indeed pull a warehouse out of their back pocket to save this place, but alas that was not the case 😕

[@dandare1001]

What a pity, for them. I'm in Anthony quite often, and had never heard of this collection. I might have to go and visit, very quickly, and donate, of course. They should really charge a tiny fee for the entrance. Ok, just donated in case I don't make it in person.

[@rgibson7305]

God I love this channel. Did I care about military vehicles? Not a jot. But you made me care about them, because you do, and you present it so well. Thank you, Tim, and when I get paid next I'll make a direct donation (no spare warehouse near Paris, sadly...)

[@pmberry]

As always, merci beaucoup for the welcome side-quest of a French lesson, as I watch along, by your keeping the original audio in place and captioning the translation. I know you wouldn't have it any other way but so many content creators _don't_ do this.

[@galinneall]

Considering that the revolutionary French created the Musée des Arts et Métiers, it's a bit surprising that they don't have a modern national museum of technology for theses machines.

[@Quark0611]

I like the song 🎵 from ABBA at the end. S.O.S.! Unfortunately I have no empty space. Nor do I live in France 🇫🇷. But however, bonne merde à l'UNIVEM!

[@TheInfinitySystem]

Truly makes one wonder just how much history is waiting to be discovered, simply because it's in storage somewhere.

[@maximushaughton2404]

Just start a rumour that they maybe getting moved to Britain, and the French will have it all sorted by dinner time. But otherwise, signed and donated.

[@TheTimTraveller]

Hahaha :D You know what, you might be onto something there... (and thank you!)

[@ianhodgson221]

@@TheTimTraveller The Railway Museum at York for the Aerotrains, and The Tank Museum at Bovington. We'd probably see a blockade at Calais.

[@SteveInNEPA1]

Great story once again. Hopefully they will find the space they need for this truly incredible collection. Thanks Tim Traveller from Northeaatern PA USA.

[@daveash9572]

I'll recognise the bbc news jingle anywhere, no matter what instruments are used to play it! I actually love the music you put to your videos, and the jokes they are usually telling. Nice work.

[@ianm42yt]

I think I heard a bit of the 'Dads Army' theme in there too. 🪖

[@krzysztofj1993]

It is a genuine pleasure to listen to your English, not to mention each and every good story you tell. One of top YT vlogs for me. Thank you.

[@ozstever]

Thanks Tim for posting this. I have signed the petition and made a donation. History is worth preserving.

[@SomeUserInternet]

How beautiful to see that there are still volunteers preserving, maintaining this history! I've been to the area many times before. HOW I didn't know about existence of this place that looks epic!

[@swisstestpilot]

Thank you Tim for your information and suport, I think it is very great from you that you show this museum and the problem it has.. I think with so many subscribers a solution will be possible.

[@billmcintosh805]

I love this channel and the topics you cover. Here's a little bump for the algorithm and viel Glück to UNIVEM!

[@Theo2lag]

Thank for this video. Living in Versailles, I perfectly know this association. What’s also important about them is that they take part of commemoration along the year, bringing several of their vehicles. The mayor are usually quite happy about there presence. A shame nothing has been found yet. There’s another military vehicles association in Version, Balmoral Green, also in a military site. There’s also an unique historical railway item there, the Diplodocus, a gigantic double crane that helped rebuild the railway system after the war. You might want to take a look.

[@sabrekai8706]

Signed the petition. Retired, things are tight these days, but maybe it will encourage others to sign as well. I'm sharing it on my FB Page as well.

[@georgeharteman4083]

I love the way you always find the appropriate music to go with the message.

[@davegoldspink5354]

Thanks for sharing this one Tim think it’s sad that in our modern world we don’t have time for history. Living in Australia tends to make it hard to help. I wish the fellas the best of luck.

[@MrGreatplum]

Thank you for alerting us to their plight - I’ve signed the petition!

[@sevenam9609]

Love the SOS song at the end

[@conhand.3578]

Give us a break with comments about the music.

[@martythemartian99]

The music you choose for each video, always makes me smile :)

[@atomdent]

Thanks Tim!

[@chashouse8511]

Thank you for making this video. I have signed the petition and have shared the video!

[@nunocspinto]

Just here for the background music. Preety appropriate! Best of luck to the UNIVEM!

[@CallieMasters5000]

I'm fresh out of large empty French buildings at the moment, but I salute you for giving attention to this worthy cause. This sounds like something Prince Albert of Monaco could bankroll all by himself.

[@kaporandrej]

Loved the perfectly timed use of the countdown clock tune :)

[@dunkirchen1940]

I hope they can find a loving new home!

[@cakemartyr5794]

All the best with your SOS! Well done for publicising

[@jovanweismiller7114]

Tweeted, shared on FB, & donated! Lest we forget!

[@martinneumann7783]

Hi Tim: I did write to the museum about my idea where they potentially could store their vehicles. Maybe it will work, maybe not. Job jobbed. Thanks for the video et à bientôt - Martin

[@roderickmain9697]

Well done Tim. Good cause!!

[@MBRWorks]

Signed and donated! Would be a shame if the collection wasn't preserved.

[@djwindkind]

Ask Forgotten Weapons, he has the will, the connections and means to help, I am certain.

[@spddiesel]

"SOS," nice touch 🤣🤣🤣

[@tomjoad1363]

If it goes to AbbA's ears he will get his video demonetized.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@tomjoad1363 it's a cover so no it wouldn't

[@welcometonebalia]

Thank you.

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

Well done Tim, good on you for trying to help. There has to be a millionaire out there that also loves historic military vehicles. Come on people, think. Also - excellent choice of music. Just perfect given the situation.

[@gig78000]

Never knew there is the Aerotrains and other cool vehicles to see just two kilometers away from my place. And now that... Since Satory became part of Versailles it was no secret that military premises will be moved out. Versailles is getting bigger and bigger, they have currently 3 projects of new full neighborhoods. It's insane, I've never seen that somewhere else. And for that "unnecessary people" (including volunteers of this museum) are no more welcomed.

[@105Gunner]

Donation made, sharing the video with others. Disappointed that the French Army isn’t doing more to help them.

[@jmomalamaqueenamadalaunive7859]

FACT!

[@chriskrebill1842]

Thank you for the update! Hopefully they can find a new place! Common KZbin algorithm! Let my comment help get this video tons of views! Also!? Is that an accordion cover of ABBA's SOS at the end?! Omg if so that's so on brand!

[@_JoyceArt]

0:03 & 0:12 that white van/car is so cute!

[@robertkirchner7981]

Search "Ultravan". It's a large camper with a Chevrolet Corvair drivetrain.

[@oheijnen]

Thanks for pointing it out. I completely missed it during my first viewing. Very cute indeed. :)

[@09jt1]

Just wan to say I love your films, really love. Now you've been giving a 67 year old (shit, I am fxxxing old) grumpy old man a nice moment of edu and pleasure. Thx Tim T

[@chardenner3147]

Thank you for letting us know that these folks need a new space. I've got my fingers crossed for them.

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

Why not store them in Chateau Versailles around the corner? From what I've heard it has been standing empty for over two centuries.

[@RogerFriberg]

You being a musician and able to do your OWN soundtrack, like this SOS is just.. le magnifiqoueueu..tre belle... la fantastiquueuu eh, screw it; AWESOME!

[@calxtra5361]

Signed ... hope they all find a new home ASAP

[@HenrysAdventures]

Looks like a great collection. I hope a new home can be found for them. I'll sign and share the petition.

[@PiersLawsonBrown1972]

Funny how one of the Aerotrains has a blue tarp over most of it, but leaving the name 'Mental 01' - quite appropriate considering.

[@robertphillips6296]

I am sure that Dragon Man in Colorado would purchase all of them for his museum.

[@mikesaporitojr3313]

Best of luck to them (from someone in NYS who French back in middle school)

[@MrElbarto75]

Merci mille fois pour ton implication !

[@nigelleyland166]

Shame on the French Goverment for not stepping forward and acomodating the collrction, bring it to UK, we will look after it no problem.

[@markholttum]

Donation sent, hope they find somewhere in time.

[@TheGunnarRoxen]

Good luck UNIVEM! / Bonne chance UNIVEM!

[@zhirsr]

donation sent! I hope they find a new place soon

[@michelq29]

Great collection 😊

[@PanzerPicture]

I will share this maybe my community can help.

[@RandomRailways]

Random thought, but one of those Aerotrains would go really well in the Art et Metiers museum. If they had a shunt about in the old church section I reckon it would fit - or hang it in the roof with the aircraft :-D Or on display at one of the Paris stations

[@Voyagerch75]

The aérotrains could be relocated to the Cité du Train in Mulhouse, France's largest railway museum.

[@TheTimTraveller]

I understand this is unlikely because of the history between the Aerotrains and SNCF. It's a long and complicated story...

[@tomjoad1363]

@@TheTimTraveller No it's not. The aerotrain is a ingineer dream but was not economically viable : ugly concrete barriers all through the countryside, huge noise, huge consumption of fossile energy, the need to build new stations that would double/act like twin to the existing railways premises... Even the TGV had to adapt since it was first a gaz turbine powered prototype (which can be see along the highway near Starsbourg), and had to switch to an electric propulsion system. And, at the end, the TGV was way cheaper, and made more sens than the Bertin Aerotrain. Don't you ever ask why there are no more Hoovercraft crossing the channel ? You've got your answer.

[@conhand.3578]

@@tomjoad1363 Yes it is. Get a clue.

[@atraindriver]

@@tomjoad1363 Whilst all true, it's not a justification for the museum of French railways ignoring their existence.

[@lordsleepyhead]

The music on point as always!

[@roboftherock]

It is 5 years now since you did your Peak Quest - the 1st video you made. Well, this is the first one in which I've been able to identifiy the music you have played. 😀

[@codex4048]

If I had social media I would try to reach out to the band Sabaton. They too try to preserve history by writing songs about it and they could definitely allow for a bigger reach.

[@extrastuff9463]

Ah that reminds me they had a new album out that I was meant to listen to, somehow with all the things that came up I never went back to it after the first song! Regarding your suggestion, that's a creative thought that might be doable. But as a fellow mostly social media avoider I'm not the person to try such a thing.

[@mow4ncry]

I am involved in the same thing at the American armory museum in Fairfield California, I sure hope you folks find a new home most of those are in fact from here originally

[@ErelH]

I signed the petition, donated and I shall be checking my French real estate portfolio I assume most of us don't have any warehouses in Western Paris, but please donate a bit to preserve this incredible piece of history!

[@RealSalica]

I signed the petition ! Bonne chance à vous !

[@etmccaus]

Love how there's a Corvair-based UltraVan camper in France, of all places.