MUSIC DIRECTOR REACTS | JINJER - Home Back (Official Video)

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

After recording this reaction video I watched a version with lyrics on the screen. Wow. I wasn't ready. One feels out of place for evening commenting on the music when the story the lyrics tell is so tragic.

[@Arti_The_Great]

Not to mention it was repeated by Russia recently (currently still ongoing I believe) Regardless of the nasty politics, I can only feel sorrow for the citizens of Ukraine.

[@RobbHollen]

It's good man, we all do it. It's perfectly fine to be amazed by the musicianship in one go, and then hear and contemplate the message in another. This was recorded prior to the current war devastating their country (again), but has newfound poignancy in the last several months. Now that they are touring again as ambassadors for Ukraine, they have been playing this song live and it really hits home.

[@EdYardo210]

That’s the amazing this about music, it’s so layered and we all hear or understand new things when revisiting songs. You’ll find this with a lot of their music

[@danw6048]

I am glad that you did a reaction to this great song. Some reactors have seemed to shy away from Home Back which I don't understand at all. Jinjer has made clear that they want the world to understand the horrors of the invasion and this video, which painfully reflects the lyrics, is the best way to do that. Jinjer has been living with war and the inability to go home for 8 years now. The more people that discover this band, song and video, the better.

[@timprice5747]

And this song came out before the current invasion by Russia. Russia invaded in 2014 in the region if Ukraine that Jinjer is from and they had to leave their homes at that time and move to Kiev. After the latest war started this song took on an even stronger meaning and the band started selling Tshirts that said "we want our Homeback" to raise money for Ukraine.

[@buckgillispie605]

They are intentionally using a 7/8 time signature in that bosso groove to give it a feeling of being off balance. Absolute genius!

[@jeffwellman8347]

It's their first refugee experience imagined through the eyes of a child. The 7/8 time signature keeps the listener in an unbalanced state to support the impact of the lyrics. Tatiana writes very intelligent and impactful lyrics.

[@ugg10video76]

Great reaction and glad you dipped back in for the lyrics. Afaik the Rabbit/Hare, Fox and Cat are characters from a Ukrainian folk tale, I don’t remember the details but has similarities with Aesop’s Fox and Dog fable where the fox tried to kill the rabbit but the rabbit teams up with the cat to defeat the fox, probably a lot more nuanced but fits the situation in 2014 in Ukraine with the little guy standing up against the big guy. Jinjer are musically and lyrically so complex and yet so accessible and Tatiana uses symbolism so well in her lyrics - Pisces astrological sign/fish/emerald scales/bipolar disorder/self esteem and expectations of others etc., Perennial/Depression/Seasonal Affectional Disorder/growth and renewal in the spring etc. and this one albeit more straight forward has some great so comparisons between military and common place things (Angel/jet fighter, Unicorns/soldiers with rifles, Mermaid/air raid sirens). Enjoy the ride.

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Thanks for the comment. Appreciate the insight

[@blindbubba9001]

...first time i heard that break it reminded me of "girl from ipanema"..

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Astrud*

[@blindbubba9001]

@@pinkierural ...and the similarities between her...amy winehouse and tatiana is cool...

[@Tranderson02]

same

[@jamestalkington6306]

vlad isn't a drummer. he's a pianist, who manages to kill it on drums.

[@mrkippster]

And guitar

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Truth be told

[@blaynemcguire7573]

His video playing a suite on their KZbin page is dope

[@TexasVeteranPatriot]

yep...... Rachmaninov - Prelude in C# minor (Op. 3 No. 2) by Vlad Ulasevich (JINJER) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnnHhaCGebdskJI

[@the_hetman]

The time at the start of the song is 15, or more likely a bar of 8 followed by a bar of 7. Jinjer do that a lot where they will drop the last beat of the second bar. Some people count the verse of Pieces as a bar of 4 followed by a bar of 3 rather than in 7 because of where the stresses fall.

[@ericpeterson7512]

How about the chorus of Pisces! It's the craziest 4/4 ever, with accents and stresses all over the place! It sounds like one measure of 20!

[@kaitlin3343]

Love your reactions, because as a vocalist I don't hear nearly as much as you do in the instruments, and I keep hearing new things! That's one of my favorite things about jinjer - you can listen 100 times and still hear something new buried in the texture. Your next one should be Call me a Symbol, for sure 👌

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Thanks for the nice comment

[@kaitlin3343]

@@DrumRollTonyReacts yw. OH, also I Speak Astronomy. The rhythms are crazy, and I'd love your opinion on counting the main riff lol it's so FUN😂

[@chriso6719]

Since you did go back and read the lyrics, the lines "is it an Angel watching over us? Is it an air -fighter making a fuss" ,along with the graphics that look like an angel, are all referring to a Chaff cloud. Chaff is launched by aircraft (or ships) and explodes into a cloud of aluminum foil, which acts as a Radar decoy. The way the wind carries it , and how sunlight reflects of of it, could make it look like an angel.

[@badm0t0rf1nger]

That Alice-in-Wonderland-esque bonkers bossa nova chilled section to break up one of the heaviest (& suitably unnerving) songs you're ever likely to hear is touched by true #Genius imho.... I mean, who else would do that?!... & yet after a couple of listens nothing else would seem to fit the thing o_O All 4 of them are *so* good at what they do. I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy a whole album of Tatiana in her lounge-y vocals with the lads doing funkily interesting non-distortion stuff in a jazz club, just as much as I do their heavyAF albums! :)

[@logannewman4532]

It's been out for a while but boy does this video hit different now.

[@jpdusn8347]

If you want to check out Jinjer with their previous drummer see “I Speak Astronomy” (OMV). He’s no slouch either. Good reaction of them as always.

[@maaronsmith]

Always glad when people pick up on his awesome ghost notes. If you want a song with a TON of them, check out their official video for "Retrospection". It's an awesome song and that venue is definitely haunted now with all of Vlad's ghost notes he left behind! Love your channel by the way!

[@cjjoe2385]

Jinjer - Vortex You will love the drums in this track.

[@Confuniverse1]

As a fellow drummer appreciator, I'd highly recommend you listen to some drum playthroughs by Bard Kolstaad of Leprous, either "The Sky is Red" or "Illuminate" or both even lol, but yes I'd definitely recommend a listen.

[@jen.g.]

Love Baard and Leprous! I second this recommendation.

[@megadeth8592]

The sky is red!

[@chrisalex1955]

Great Reaction DRTR!!! Yes I personally believe that Vlad is the KING of playing ghost notes!!! That is my guy!!! I Love Jinjer's Music !!! alot different than the traditional 1,2,3,4 time signatures.

[@JimboKM]

When the rhythm has me totally confused, Tatiana knows where the one is. She's a brilliant singer.

[@EdYardo210]

Great breakdown and reaction as always… a couple more Jinjer recommendations. Perennial - Live at Waken, and I Speak Astronomy(official music video)

[@austinhaynes2873]

He has plenty of drum play throughs you can check out I'd highly recommend it. He is a wizard on the kit and his set up is very unique 👌

[@laxstateofmind]

This song slaps

[@module79l28]

12:25 - The Gojira Pick Scrape, when done right and in the right spots, gives that extra _je ne sais quoi_ to a Metal song, doesn't it? ; )

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

I need to learn more about this

[@module79l28]

@@DrumRollTonyReacts - Well then, what better way to learn than to listen to Gojira? 'Flying Whales' and 'The Heaviest Matter of the Universe' are two good examples of songs where they use pick scraping as part of the song's structure. : )

[@logannewman4532]

Oh. Tatiana did a killer collaboration with Twelve Foot Ninja which is another band that deserves some attention on their own.

[@jeffwellman8347]

Do it just for the humour.

[@logannewman4532]

@@jeffwellman8347 It's a really great video.

[@notimportant3686]

dude is one of the best reactors... in my opinion

[@jbarnes8]

The symbolism at the table has to do with her innocence as a child growing up with the threat of war constantly surrounding here. Earlier in the song, she asks is it an angel watching over us, is it unicorns galloping down the street. Her imagination and optimism and naivety as an innocent child. Her tea party guests are her parents and adults around her, trying to shelter he from the fear of war. They are sort of held captive by her innocence; unable to speak the truth about the reality of the world (in Ukraine) to shelter her. Then the latter part of the song is her coming undone as she see the truth for herself. And there is also a double meaning now to when she says "this shelter is no longer a home" -- a place to feel safe...that is my interpretation.

[@davidhayden6481]

2 major songs you'll want to hit are Perennial (Live at Wacken), and I Speak Astronomy (I think it was done with their previous drummer) Personal request that is definitely not their most popular - Beggars Dance

[@Nick-hm2dm]

The tea party reminds me of a child playing a tea party before the home burns down.

[@SuperDeadparrot]

That’s a tea party. The song is a child’s view of war.

[@tedtosterone2262]

Bit of a throwback Meshuggah

[@Failtasmagoria]

Looking forward to some Unleash the Archers breakdown after hearing the Jinjer analysis

[@neilpatrickhairless]

About the tea party scene - there is an old fable about a rabbit, a dog and a tiger. Long story short, its a fable about sharing and communication in times of danger. If you notice, all are being fed tea by Tatiana, who is symbolizing government lulling its subjects. Later, all are left dead on the floor with chaos all around. I hate to be spooky af but I think that scene has something to do with something being used to kill people without them necessarily knowing that its happening - perhaps chemical or biological warfare

[@coder4liberty]

Vlad plays mostly matched grip. He has more ghost notes to offer up than a haunted house.

[@dorotawalczyk7394]

Jinger comes from Ukraine, of course it's the song about the war in their country

[@scrabs9]

Im the same with vocals man.... finally someone else!! haha

[@gwen-bleiz8141]

💙❤ 💛🌻

[@chemicallust77]

The lyrics are very important (all of their songs)...musical poetry...and it may help you understand the instrumental phrasing and sounds a little better too

[@MR-vg7yn]

At 5:25 you're wondering about traditional or matched grip. He plays matched grip at every occasion I've seen him. You might have misinterpreted something you spotted in the video, because even in that section it looks like matched grip to me. And yes, you're right, that snare sounds amazing. The whole drum production quality for Jinjer has been insane for their past few albums. It sounds so natural and open, but punchy and controlled at the same time. Another metal band with awesome drum production, IMO: Gojira.

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

I went back to look. It was just the angle on the fill from the camera and the motion of his arc pattern. Tripped me out! Lol lol

[@josephtighe1726]

So your reactions are great. There really has to be a cap on watching people who have literally 0 to add. Definitely much better experience having talented people actually breaking things down. So just a few recommendations on Jinjer Journey. Best clean vocals: I speak astronomy. Another great Live is Who is gonna be the one. Vortex is another wicked display of their growing talents

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Thanks for the nice words and suggestion on songs!

[@RocketPunches]

If you want some insane pick scrapes and layering check out some Spiritbox. Insanely catchy riffs everywhere. They're also one of Jinjer's favorite bands, IIRC. Since you seem to like odd riffs I'd suggest Bleach Bath, which is from when they were just releasing singles. Holy Roller is absolutely massive sounding and has some crazy sounding pick scrapes, Rule of Nines is a good middle ground. They seem to be really exploring around different styles, I don't think you can go wrong with anything off their album Eternal Blue but they're definitely pushing towards stuff that sounds bigger and more ambient there where the focus is on the composition and not technicality.

[@russellward4624]

Yes Vlad always plays traditional and he plays right handed despite being a southpaw due to his piano roots.

[@monikadeinbeck4760]

the theme is the destruction of their childhood home by the war in east ukraine. mermaids, angels and unicorns turn into sirens, fighter jets and soldiers. The quiet sunday coffee scene turns into chaos and ruins. the conclusive message, we want our home back.

[@frosto7]

No single metal sub-genre or pair of sub-genres can describe Jinjer's music in a satisfactory way as they use elements from many and also now and then drop in sections with non-metal genres like the bossa nova bit in this song. But the two main influences, as Jinjer themselves has said, are (1) progressive metal that characterize large parts of their music with all the time signature switches that you noticed and many other intelligently playful changes in the rhythms, melodies and other things, and (2) extreme metal with growls and very heavy guitars that are used in parts of most songs, so the least wrong genre name for them might be progressive [extreme] metal...

[@Kolbein837]

Slickest ghost notes you'll find

[@adamsecord5954]

Vlad has several drum playthrough videos.

[@leonjean4984]

I live your jinjer reactions. Please consider doing Gojira. Just pick a song, any song. You'll find they are as amazing as jinjer, completely different sound and the drummer is the best I've seen.

[@lextcimbal7709]

LOS ANGELES Lions At The Gate - "Find My Way" featuring Tatiana Shmayluk of Jinjer (Official Music Video 4K)

[@adamsecord5954]

The fans that know he's a piano player who murders drums....!

[@caseyrogers573]

After you listen to more music with screamed vocals you’ll get better at locking in on the lyrics

[@adamheller6783]

Love your reaction videos! Especially to Jinjer! I hope you keep up the great work!! I've learned a lot by listening to your videos and you listen and appreciate music very similar to how I do, it's so satisfying to see! If you want another cool interesting band, check out Maximum the Hormone! If you like Jinjer, you'll appreciate them :)

[@saltydroog854]

Rather than Alice in Wonderland, think Anne Frank. The symbolism is a family, otherwise not involved in the ongoing war, trying to maintain life, in a warzone.

[@TheGregh1977]

man check out wallflower by them. and their two live in kiev songs and some spiritbox!

[@vdkyiv2029]

Do Wallflower

[@justametalhead6981]

Would you react to drummer Chris Turner? Dunno if you know him or not but he's putting out his album, would be great to hear your thoughts! 🙏

[@peterahl6719]

Here ya go kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqnaeIqje86oldk

[@AyushKumar-lr9po]

Please explore indian music ...Legendary music directors like AR Rahman , Ajay Atul , nightingale vocalists suh as Lata Mangeshkar, Shreya ghosal

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Do you have links on a specific track?

[@AyushKumar-lr9po]

@@DrumRollTonyReacts kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnuQnGOwhZWofac

[@AyushKumar-lr9po]

@@DrumRollTonyReacts React on this track of film Sumdog Millionaire

[@luciam3828]

Pls react to GABRIEL HENRIQUE -Never enough. cover. It s amazing!!

[@dalestevens3332]

Weird song. If I could call it by that term. Like you, I need to see the lyrics to really get a better understanding of the messaging here. Definitely unique sounds from the guys. With the exception of the soft interlude, I think the screaming was just too much for my 62 year old ears. I could appreciate “Teacher Teacher more because the song used more variety of tones, singing styles, and had more flair. Just a few thoughts. However, your observations made this video at least tolerable. Thanks for doing the dirty work.

[@themadpotato9954]

If you want to listen to something insane listen to O.D. by polyphia

[@paulfranklin4276]

Slava ukraine from canada Just cause we love you

[@robinlewis3372]

Suprised you haven't checked out Vlad's playthrough of Wallflowers yet. Its amazing!!! It came out about 2 weeks ago.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHyVm6mHqbqWoas

[@buckgillispie605]

It's called dissonance

[@vjamie69]

There country is in a war Ukrainian!

[@sateentuoksu]

Couldn't watch you dissect it with technical point of view, without any emotion. Just couldn't. Hurts too much

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

OK

[@natastudyN]

Missed completely all the meaning of deep lyrics and genius visuals. What a waste! :(

[@DrumRollTonyReacts]

Very interesting comment you made. Since making this reaction video I have gone back and watched quite a few times with lyrics turned on. Very impactful video. I am pretty forward in this channel about how I mainly talk about the instrumental side of what I am listening to. I think I even mentioned in this video that I was aware that some of the message was lost on me. That happens on FIRST time listens. Did you catch more lyric content and meaning than me on your first listen? Probably. Was this a waste? No. I have no clue why that would be your conclusion and then to type it as if to exclaim that discovering this song was a bad thing. KZbin people in the comments are a special type. Record yourself reacting to music on a first time hearing and see how much you catch.

[@yolandria]

The main message of the song is in ref to the Soviet invasion of Ukraine back in 2014. Jinjer is from Donetsk. Which is deep in the Donbas region. Which is the main battleground of the current conflict. They were forced to move to Kyiv back in 2014. They have another song the speaks on it as well. "Retrospection."

[@hemlock399]

Soviet?

[@yolandria]

@@hemlock399 Russian

[@timprice5747]

@@hemlock399 unfortunately I think Soviet is exactly what Putin wants.

[@snapgab]

​@@timprice5747In terms of the borders, yeah absolutely, he's an imperialist who wants all the former Sovjet territory. He has no pretence of being a communist though, unlike the USSR.