Music in the Islamic World (Part 2)

[@LetsTalkReligion]

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[@alirazi9198]

You should listen to Sanama by Homayoun Shajarian. The lyric is from Rumi. And the music is a combination of modern and old Persian music.

[@iyadal-najjar3512]

@@alirazi9198 can you help me find the translation?

[@alirazi9198]

@@iyadal-najjar3512 of course kzbin.info/www/bejne/opnKmKNraamWhpY

[@BBZM]

When will hear more about Bektashi order?

[@AldiFajarBudimanPutra]

I'm still waiting for Wahdatul Syuhud. Hehehe

[@majidbineshgar7156]

It is interesting to know that the word " tar" in Persian means " string " which is suffixed in several musical instruments such as Guitar, Sitar ..etc.

[@khalidirfan7028]

Yeah ofcourse in india tar literally mean string in urdu and hindi language.

[@remak6342]

In Bengali too tar is string. National instrument in Bangladesh is the ektara.

[@LordBackuro]

@@khalidirfan7028 Seems like a feature of Indo-Aryan languages

[@jakedones2099]

​@@LordBackuroand the indo-iranian family in general

[@somonalamshoev521]

@@remak6342which probably means “one-stringed”.

[@kiayamwak3778]

I always wake up for Subuh/Morning prayer to your video in recommendation in these past two weeks, and i enjoyed all of them playing in the background doing my morning chores after the prayer. It's such a great start of the day hearing about the impact of religions in the world. This series have been my favorite so far! edit: Also, i know this is maybe out of your field but region around Malaysia and Indonesia have their own development of Islamic music influenced both by the Indian and Persian. As far as my knowledge go, the name is "Nasyid" and one of the notable figure in it is "Nasida Ria", a fully women musical group that sing about a lot of peace and akhlak-based topic (even about nuclear war!).

[@jasodu1]

I don't know but Indonesia and Malaysian usually forgotten in the islamic world despite the large number of the people.

[@omarpervaiz]

Share a link here bro.

[@mr_kesal]

@@omarpervaiz kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZjPmnR3dsx0m7c here

[@omarpervaiz]

@@mr_kesal appreciated.

[@mr_kesal]

@@omarpervaiz and take a look at this too kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3bWf5mwmbtjgpI

[@hiddenhist]

Very enjoyable and comprehensive video. I hope that, in the future, you will give the musical traditions of islamic africa, especially those of the sudan and the sahel, more attention... but since finding information on these is also difficult, i also get why this might be unfeasible for a video. Much love, im sure i will enjoy whatever you put out next :).

[@kuroazrem5376]

For the next time, please include Malay and Indonesian music, as well as Balkan music (we need Turbofolk).

[@krepetepenpepedeper836]

Turbofolk is the opposite of Islamic. It was created by Chetnik sympathizers during the war in the balkans.

[@kuroazrem5376]

@@krepetepenpepedeper836 there is Bosniak turbofolk as well

[@krepetepenpepedeper836]

Kuro Azrem My point still stands.

[@TarekMidani]

Also include indian and vietnamese and turkic and persian and albanian and sudanese and 😁

[@nolanolivier6791]

Do my Bruneian in-laws having karaoke parties count?

[@azlanameer4912]

While reading about FARABI as inventor some mysterious music, I read that he was challenged by the Caliph, then he invented a flute. As he started playing flute everybody in the court stated laughing hardly...so much so that few courtiers fainted with twisted jaws. At last caliph himself was out in laughing bursts he signaled to stop. After a while Farabi started playing same flute in another tone. Now every body was bitterly weeping. so much so that many fainted. Again caliph signaled to stop while bitterly weeping. Third time Farabi began a different tune and including caliph and guards fell to sleep. So much so that many were snoaring. Farabi went to his home. Next day, The caliph called him in the court and rewarded him with hell of the gifts and declared him MASTER MUSICIAN OF MOODS. Rest is with Allah....how much is truth in this incidence. 🙉🙏🙏🙏

[@rajaeelastname4878]

Yes I remember we were taught this is school, but I always wondered how much of is true if at all

[@QED_]

@Azlan Ameer: This is 100% believable . . . but has nothing to do with Islam. Instead, it's Sufism that provides a comprehensive understanding of what Music is and what it does. The comprehensive understanding applies to ALL Music . And to the extent that Al-Farabi had that understanding . . . he'd have been able to demonstrate it.

[@CCCP_Again]

Amir Khusro's "Chaap tilak" is one of the most beautiful works of his time.

[@abdulrahamanashraffi4866]

Hazarath amir khusro

[@prasvasu4217]

Yup.. There definitely is a distinctiveness of Sufi music and culture in the subcontinent; quite different from what's in Persia and Asia Minor... Also the traditions have evolved to be distinct in some sense.

[@shadbakht]

I love “Lamma Bada Yatathana” There’s a French orchestra that did a modern take on it. Beautiful

[@TarekMidani]

Still my favorite song of all time!! Lena Chamamyan is great. and Talia Lahoud did a good interpretation on youtube

[@dancingbear2367]

They were many inventors in the Islamic world and world thinkers you should do a video on inventors or great thinkers

[@BatuHitam]

Eemph..i think ..it was in his plan..we all waiting.

[@swatisquantum]

One of the best channels on KZbin. Packed with content. Strong critical thinking skills. Impressive!! Thank you for uploading these videos! 🤯

[@itsmoshalawi]

Weee! Been waiting patiently since part 1! Bless you! 💜🙏🏼

[@ondercebeci3954]

actually byzantine influence to ottoman music should be also mentioned. greek orthodox church hymns, music of constantinople also asyrian armenian church music has significant influence to the music in ottoman geography ..

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Definitely!

[@HaidarAli-sq9cx]

Vice versa, muslim ottoman culture also vastly influenced european muslic

[@ondercebeci3954]

@@HaidarAli-sq9cx sure, but what I'm saying is: while speaking of formation of ottoman music, eastern christian music heritage must be also mentioned which is not exactly european. those cultures had microtones and makams and still using those even without any influence of renaisannce in europe (catholic protestant world).

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Yes indeed , actually like the Ottoman architecture which is merely confiscated Byzantine so must their music have been influenced by the( Greek) Byzantine.

[@enozmah6081]

I hope he makes a video on it sepereately.

[@salahuddinmerrill7520]

Thank you for another wonderful, informative video. I was just in Istanbul in October and saw a performance of the Mevlavis as you described. Anyone interested in Islam and Islamic culture and history should visit Istanbul, which is quite open. And I appreciate the commentators who have kept this chat blissfully free of the usual online rancor.

[@catsultan949]

Great video but one correction. Aurengzeb did not ban music, he just fired all the court musicians because he thought they where a waste of tax money. And at that time, the majority of musicians where employed by the court. This decision made them very angry and they buried their musical instruments in protest and said to the emperor that he has killed music.

[@iv7796]

@Dk Everyone is evil and everyone is good..

[@catsultan949]

@Dk It's not a spin. It is fact. His daughter was known for her music compositions and she employed a lot of the musicians that where fired by him. How is not wanting to waste tax money an evil ideology?

[@AR-gu2no]

@@catsultan949 because you rather choose greed and money over culture and art , money doesn’t buy happiness

[@catsultan949]

@@AR-gu2no He was not greedy. He used to sew baskets for a living and lived a very poor man even though he could have been the richest man on earth

[@AR-gu2no]

@@catsultan949 he may have been poor but it seems like money and power corrupted him to think music is a waste , to the point he had enough influence that he even was able to stop the musicians .

[@ella94deea]

Love your content! So glad I discovered you while I was in a process of intensive listening and exploring Arabic & Persian music. Keep them coming, cannot wait to watch all your channel! Thank you.

[@iarwain3]

Even during the post-republic era, many of the respectable musicians of authentic traditional Turkish music scene were of the Mevleviyye order. The two most famous were Kani Karaca ( a very unique voice with unique life story) and Cinuçen Tanrıkorur who played the Oud so exceptionally that he was invited to the Sorbonne University in Paris to teach his Oud techniques.

[@pablotroncoso3101]

What an enormous effort have you made. Congratulations! It woukd be even more educational if you include little parts of the music you are talking about so we, total ignorants, can start to know it and even recognize it later.

[@Axixxi]

Love this content, I find it peculiar how this type of education was not taught In schools. So much to be learned from the philosophers. Thank you for this well put educational video.

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Thank you!

[@azlanameer4912]

His videos are purely educational. Plz

[@kuroazrem5376]

The music of the Maghreb is heavily influenced by amazigh (berber) music. That explains the differences with "Eastern" music.

[@mr.x653]

It's also heavily influnced by ancient South Arabian music because most Arab tribes migrating to the Maghreb (pre-Islamic/post-Islamic) were from South Arabia. The Maghreb's continued political and geographical isolation from the East especially after the Mongol conquests only contributed to it's presevence . The 'Eastern' music was more heavily subject to influence from all kinds of people living in the Levant and Iraq and also the Empires and different ethncities conquering them. This only increased after the Tuco-Mongol domination in the Middle East. Persian music and culture was heavily borrowed. This is the reason why the Maghreb retained most of the culture, music or cuisine of the Arabs from the medieval times much better than their contemporary Levantines. If you look at countries like Yemen or Saudi Arabia, they have much stronger similarities to Maghrebis than to Levantines despite Levantines being geographically closer to them

[@rimacalid6557]

You mean Byzantine (roman) "music". *

[@mr.x653]

@@rimacalid6557 No I meant South Arabian music

[@mr.x653]

@@rimacalid6557 Byzantine Music had almost no effect on Maghrebi music

[@rimacalid6557]

@@mr.x653 I was addresing Kuro when he said "bereber music" because I thought it sounded more like Arabian Andalusian Persian and Turkish to my ears, and byzantines stayed in north africa like for 600 years or so without counting the roman domination.

[@redthered585]

Bruh I love your content!!! And your Arabic pronunciation is top notch!

[@charlessupton]

Dear Filip: Some years ago by now I was tapped to write "poetic versions" of Rumi's quatrains, based on the literal translations by Ibrahim Gamard and A. G. Rawan Farhadi. I did many upon many of these but lost most in a computer crash; however, quite a few survived --- and some of them naturally "wanted" to go into iambic pentameter, so I strung these together into a necklace of song capable of being sung in English. We have all heard recitations of Rumi poems to ney accompaniment (etc.), but I have never yet encountered an actual English song with lyrics by Jalaluddin Rumi, so I collected/composed one myself. It is now seeking a tune to bring it to life; here it is: What is this sorrow grips me like the night? Is it blind? Does it see me lost to light? Earth shows my image, yet in heaven I'm free: What hand can lift a star from off the sea? Who claims the ever-living One has died- The Sun of Hope is gone, his days are done? Sun-killer climbed the roof and shut his eyes Then cried out like a fool, “I've killed the Sun!” Every day my heart drinks one new wine Whose sweetness kills the taste of all wines past; He first ferments love-sickness, that Winemaster And then serves up oblivion at last. Any one might have a friend or lover; Anyone hold a job, or play a part; Like the Prophet and his khalif in their cavern, I'm with Him in the furnace of my heart! That love from which my lifeless life takes life A love so fine, so sweet, where does it live? Is it from mortal flesh or from beyond it? Or a glance that he, Tabriz’s Sun, might give? O wounded heart, your cure has finally come; Breathe easy now, your healing has been born; A love who grants the wish of every lover Has come into this world in human form. To behold the beauty of the King, what joy! My soul takes life from that exquisite face. (In a dream I saw the black chains of His love- What could it mean? That dream disturbs my peace.) That musky Tatar curl is pure delight; To hunt a prey like me, delightful sport. In Spring, in early Spring, the world is sweet Like sugar and candy holding hands-so right. From your tall shape the cypress stole its grace, The rose tore open its shirt when it saw your face! For God’s sake, lift a mirror, then you’ll see: “Not one like me, from end to end of space!” Did the perfumed rose ever catch your scent? No, never. Have the sun or stars ever seen your light? No, never. “It’s night”, you say, “behold my darkened window.” If you go, it’s night; but otherwise-No, never! I found no peace, I died of shame, without you. When I came to court I quit my life, without you. Without you how can I break the grip of sorrow? Choked with loss I cried tears of blood, without you. “I'll tear my heart from your ground!” I say-but I can’t. “I'll learn to breathe without you!”-but I can’t. “I'll drive your longing from my heart!” I brag; If I were man enough I'd do it-but I can’t. I have no-one, only You-where can I turn? No cure for this ravaged heart. Where can I turn? “How long”, you ask, “will we whirl with the whirling stars?” It’s the only trade I know. Where can I turn? “You’ll get no help from me, my friend” he said; “Just silly drunkenness and wine and laughter. To kill sobriety and drive out reason Is why God sent me down into this slaughter.” I'll take the blame for you a hundred times. If I break my pledge to you, I'll pay the price. As long as I draw breath, I'll stand your blows, Till the Day of Resurrection-this you know. Your slap is sweeter than another’s kiss; Your wound is richer than another’s gift; Your cruelty, kinder than another’s care; Your insult, dearer than another’s bliss. If I fill the sky with groans, I am forgiven. If I water the plains with tears, I am forgiven. You are my soul; that’s why I must pursue you- And if soul follow self instead? I am forgiven. The Water of Life-a drop from your shining face. Of that world of light the Moon is just a trace. “I want Moonlight, Moonlight, all night long!” I cried; The night is your night-black curls-the Moon, your face. O Friend, our friendship makes a mighty union; Where you might walk, I’ll be the earth for you. In the creed of lovers it’s a dark transgression Through your eyes to see the world, but not see you. I'm glad this passing world can’t make me happy; Drunk without wine-superb intoxication! Why do I need to hear some other story When endless blessings rise from my secret glory? May the heart of Love never look upon this world. What’s worthy to be seen by Love, but Love? The day I die I'll cast away these eyes If, gazing on this world, they turned from Love; This dying earth, how long to smell and taste it? It’s time to meet that One of perfect grace. In the mirror of His face I'll find myself; In the mirror of my heart I'll see His face. The fruit will set on the blossoming branch-some day. The hungry hawk will seize the dove-some day. His image comes and goes; when will it stay? It will make its home inside your heart-some day. ~~ Charles Upton, [e-mail]

[@Salsmachev]

If you keep going with this series (it sounds like you want to do Islamic music of Africa) I'd also love to see some content about music in the Islamic east. So many Muslims live East of Pakistan in places like China and especially Indonesia, but we rarely hear about them in the context of Islamic history/art/anthropology.

[@azlanameer4912]

Extremely well done video. Salute to your passion for the research and devotion. 💖

[@itsmoshalawi]

Very well done sir! Now I look forward to part 3! 😂😍 Bless you for the awesome research and presentation! 💜🙏🏼

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Thanks! :)

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤

[@najla1178]

I wish you'd also touched on how the prohibition of music in certain islamic countries affected their respective cultures, would definitely watch an episode about that!

[@lauri3610]

Hey it's my favourite religion guy

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Mine too!

[@lauri3610]

@@LetsTalkReligion I wish I had one of those long sleeved sufi shirts so I'd whirl around those sleeves in the air a little

[@musamusashi]

As a Muslim who is also a musician, this is so refreshing to hear, since all my life, since i embraced Islam 30 years ago, i had to argue against the delirious assumption that music is haram per se, while it is some musical, or rather lyrical, contents that are inappropriate. My arms fall off my body when i hear music generalized as one evil thing as if Bach or Coltrane were the same as Niki Minaji or some other contemporary trash.

[@femmestoic]

i only see the music is haram agenda online, i live in north africa and im currently learning how to play the electric guitar, music has always been around me

[@musamusashi]

@@femmestoic that's because in the recent decades, the most narrow minded and idiotic (mis)interpretation of Islam became dominant because of its political and economic power and the lack of critical thinking on our side as Muslims. All the best with your music.

[@ungaaatioo2359]

@@musamusashi is a part of the culture. In our area, some new digital mullah tried to push these types of agendas but our prominent elder scholars quickly refuted that. But the problem they target the uneducated people first to gain leverage

[@musamusashi]

@@ungaaatioo2359 which area, brother?

[@baneofbanes]

K dude

[@CCCP_Again]

Wow Just Wow. You are the best in delivering such amazing quality in A 30 minute Video, We love ur work!

[@BatuHitam]

Agree too...fantastic style

[@HaharuRecords]

Love to know more about Indian Classical Music...The ornaments they use is so deep into emortions.. I think every cultural singing (vocal) influvence come from the instruments they use..In this case the Sitar to the Indian and Oud to Arabic whic defines the note so deep into the feelings.

[@wasim559]

YOUR CHANNEL IS A TREASURE NO WHERE ELSE TO BE FOUND

[@ammaramsyar7867]

I was just researching about music and dance of Inang dance from Malaysia and you're gifting us with music of the Islamic Empire(part 2). Love it❤Ik most are not familiar with music in the malay archipelago which by no surprise hv influence from middle east due to the expansion of trade and religion albeit the signature Middle eastern people that brough along their music instruments or the Sufis from the Indian subcontinent came and live. I even have a book on how the gambus in traditional malay music might came from Yemen associating with the every present Ud. It's really awesome seeing expansion of music. The Inang dance and music that i research was about the Malacca Sultanate which has influence from Middle East, India and even China. Though one thing, the sources varied which is not helpful but it's a strong indication music travel far even in those days for religious or court purposes.

[@sshashlan]

Sir your work is brilliant Thank you for sharing the information and being so objective about it

[@willa8720]

Hey man, thanks for doing the things you do. I hope you can upload all your videos as podcast too.

[@adamkhan6492]

The disagreement is not in the song as much but in its wording ethics and context which goes against Islam and promotes evil and adultery.

[@musamusashi]

If it was so, it would be fine. Sadly tho, these days many Muslim label all music as haram per se, regardless of the lyrical content.

[@eshan_amjid]

a take on carl jung would be very interesting & make different worlds meet.

[@MartinZotnicki]

thank you, that was fascinating.. would be great to see you talking about Carnatic music..

[@DervishBeats]

Brilliant! Thank you so much for making this

[@amanforalltheseasons]

Correction needed: Abd al ghader Maraghi was born in Maragheh which is located in Iran in province of Eastern Azerbaijan. Be happy to explain more if needed.

[@AntarblueGarneau]

Persian musician Amir Khusrau is often said to have invented the sitar, tabla vocal genres qawali and tarana still in use today. This is usually stated in Indian and Western music treatises. Often mentioned as Persian Prof Nazir Jairazbhoy (UCLA 1980s) stated that Amir Khusrau was Indian.

[@fire.smok3]

My feelings on musical instruments as a Muslim are mixed but I respect your humble and good hearted personality

[@lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778]

Very very very great and interesting. Thank you very much

[@MohdHilal]

I've been waiting for this video ^^

[@azlanameer4912]

Waoo when i joined this channel it was at 50k subscribers. i wished 1 million subscribers. Thanks Allah now its 60k + less than a month. InshaAllah it will reach to million within a year.❤💖💖💖💖

[@alinajafi4644]

At 6:30 min the Iranian traditional singer Sepeideh Raiessi sadat sings 🎶 "Amad Naseeme Sobhdam "( The morning breeze has arrived )

[@nasirfazal5440]

Very good lndian musical introduction. Prof.Dr.Nasir Fazal Cambridge

[@waderutherford9083]

The Romani many times were a bridge between different cultures when it came to musical influences

[@MemeNChill]

Talks about India while showing Pakistani legends like Nusrat fateh Ali and abida parveen

[@yashjain7425]

He might be a believer of Akhand Bharat👀

[@AntarblueGarneau]

Instruments are often depicted in the paintings you show in your videos. Often depicted is what is called the "Indian rabab" to differentiate it from the Afghani rabab the ancestor of the present-day sarode. Prof Allyn Miner goes into the Indian rabab in depth in her book "Sitar and Sarode in the 18th and 19th Centuries"

[@amjadalmendilawi5328]

Great video as usual , but most of the time I felt that there is something missing in both part one and part two. It’s said that the root of the of present music goes back deep into ancient times and the local folklore that has great influence and this maybe even more true for Iraq , where some scholars traced back the origin of some melodies to people living in the marshes and through them to the Sumerians , and other melodies were connected to camel caravans. I know you are researching the development of Islamic music , but these ancient effects are still in function and are not minor.

[@SKH-kg1xw]

Good job as always, just a small point. Maraghe where Maraghi was from is located in Azarbayjan province of modern day Iran

[@arifshaikh-nv2ky]

you are doing great job by giving infromation keep it up

[@jasonmunger4206]

Note that the dance that is performed is virtually the same as the Anatolian alevi “crane dance”

[@owenczyzynski5938]

Great video, as always. And Idk if you’ve already done anything on him, but could you do a video on Rumi in the future I can only find very surface level stuff about him 🙏

[@LetsTalkReligion]

It's inevitable that I'll make a video on him!

[@tabrazbaloch]

@Patel Yusuf best book on Rumi is written by William Chittick by the name of Sufi Doctrine of the Rumi. This channel also mentioned Chittick in Ibn Arab's video.

[@barbarabryonwisdom231]

thank you! I so enjoy your knowledge!

[@TarekMidani]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I know it'll be great.... Olé!

[@briansmith9439]

Your series has been of immense help as I write a history of Morocco during the Saadian dynasty (15th - 17th c). Virtually all sources I have obtained use the words 'saint' and 'marabout' interchangeably, i.e. the 'Seven Saints of Marrakech'. As used in the, or rather, for the Islamic world the word 'saint' has a different meaning than as used in Christianity. I have elected to not use 'saint' as it causes confusion. The Saadi were plagued with the 'Maraboutic Crises' especially in the early 17th c but also before that. Are marabouts geographically limited to the Maghreb as that seems to be the case. I know that the different brotherhoods in Morocco - Chadelia, Jazouli, etc - all have their roots in Sufism and they, from what I have discovered, seem to be connected to each other as one marabout became the successor to a different marabout. Morocco is also said to follow the Maliki school of thought. Is there any connection between these two - Maliki and Sufism? I know how Sufism made it there but not how the Maliki school became prominent at the same time as the two do not seem to blend particularly well or arrived via the same channels.

[@aleksandercirilkozar2769]

Hello, I wonder if you could do en episode about the Copric religion in Egypt. I know they are Christian but they are still a part of the islamic coulture since they managed to coexist so long. I am intrigued how their coulture intwins together.

[@haroon420]

21:10 for India/South Asia. As a Pakistani/India, this is what I was interesting in hearing about. Lol.

[@tompommerel2136]

Sorry to remind you that today's Indonesia has also a diverse musical tradition which is deeply connected to Islamic music that flourished further west. Is it possible that you give a presentation on how the indigenous musical traditions were modified by those of the Islamization of the archipelago. Sorry for such an complex request.

[@majmulBahrain67]

Great Video!! Really good analysis

[@rashachaklader9519]

Great video as always! I think what you mentioned as Rubab may have a different name. As far as I know, rubab is not a bowed instrument.

[@OliveOilFan]

Us Turks love our music

[@najidrum]

“Inside Arabic music” is a great book for western people trying to learn.

[@waynedombrowski7568]

This is great! It'll be hard for me not to write a book here,but I've been passionately studying the subjects of World Music and Comparative Religion for over 40 years,so I'm eating this up with relish! My personal expertise is in Afghan music,and they are having a rebirth since about 2010,after enduring the crushing of their culture under the Taliban. It's a very fruitful synthesis of Persian/Arabic,Indian and European music theories. I heartily encourage my friends here to check out these modern artists on KZbin:Ajmal Omid,Homiyun Sakhi,Farhad Darya,Saiid Sayad,Ariana Sayeed. These great artists need all the support they can get. This channel is the best!

[@shaneslr9123]

31:20 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 god willing humanity will be united one day .

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

I would love to donate to your patreon, I just need to wait to have access to an online payment system.

[@farhatara4551]

Wonderful, very interesting 👍👍

[@NickBatinaComposer]

that notation is pretty interesting! It’s kinda like Tabs in a way, that’s so cool! Also, if it’s written up and down like that, which direction should you read it, or is it just chopped up and written up and down? That Box based notation a bit later seemed a lot like modern drum machines in the way the notes are written, that’s fascinating! If you have garage band, you could try it out with that Auto-drummer, I think hes writing in specific grooves for cycles of music, that’s so cool!!!

[@AlfaElfa1]

Great Post!

[@jasonmunger4206]

Ive been enjoying this series a great deal and would love to add some items to the discussion. Starting in the west the Cuban born academic Maria Rosa Menocal wrote extensively on the culture of alandalous and her book “shards of love” discusses the Sufi influence on muashahat. It’s only anecdotal but I’ve heard that the musical group Radio Tarifa was heavily influenced by her writing. Overlapping with her writing/sensibility are the Moroccan writer Fatima Mernissi ( forgotten queens of Islam)and the fantastic interpreter of Andalusian classical music Amina Aloui Heres a sample of her singing a ladino song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGHYgGl8arWYi8k In Algeria Tawfik Bestanji has been a tireless scholar of the mahgrebi musical traditions and there are many great examples of his work on KZbin, notable hs been his work bringing back to light the music of Raymond Leyris an urban singer in the founduk style who was murdered in the 1961. There is a French documentary with Bestanji about him. He mentioned near the end that he had included few Kurdish reference so here’s a few which overlap greatly with the Alevi. For starters the singer selda bagcan withe the Alevi song “otme bulbul”. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKSTgXxrrt9kl8U She (in her 70’s no less) was a big hit at the Glastonbury music festival in 2018 (I think) Then there’s Metin and Kemal Kahraman who are great examples of the intersection of alevism and kurdishness with a huge amount of media coverage in Turkish, zazaji and German. Heres a video kzbin.info?search_query=metin+kemal+kahraman+fadima Then there’s muhlis akarsu an alevi singer murdered by Turkish police in Sivas in 1993 and who has almost saint like stature amount some alevis Heres one of his better known songs kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIPMZqeqZq5gadU which was curiously stolen by the pop singer Nelly furtado to make a bit of pop drivel. In Iran there is so much its hard to know where to start but a great place to start is with Sahba Motallebi probably the greatest living tar player who is Bahai Heres her doing apiece at some Rumi themed event. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4KaeqKvoax_g5I She has literally hundreds of videos on KZbin and is masterful interpreter and innovator of the Persian musical traditions. Theres Hamidreza Afarideh not famous but who makes clearly Sufi influenced music like this charming video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpi4m3mIpLdnq8k Then my personal favorite Negar Bouban an amazing oud/barbat player who music to me seems to be speaking on a higher level of spirituality along with the likes of Riad al Sunbati (his taksims specifically) she might be Kurdish I’m not sure and that doesn’t seem to play a big part in her work. She’s written academically on Persian music (unfortunately for English speakers like me it’s all in Persian) and a lot is available on her website www.negarbouban.com Heres an example kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4bcqWimiZd0mck. She has several albums and numerous videos Salam

[@Leo-ue6xz]

Actually Muhlis Akarsu was killed by sunni fanatics during the Sivas massacre. The targets were alevis and left-leaning thinkers. One of the main reason events started was Aziz Nesin, an atheist thinker who attempted to publish The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie, was there that day.

[@ummfaizal]

I hope later you will discuss also about maqamat. Some suitable used to recite Quran some only used in music genres.

[@kheireddineboot]

oh god i was waiting for this

[@bireswarbera4237]

Plz do one episode on Baul and Fakiri song from the land of undivided Bengal, recently Bangladesh and West Bengal (a province in India).

[@valeriehaider3273]

Can someone please post the "part one" of this series.. love your research..

[@deathbasch]

Can I ask you something? In some of your videos you have these relaxing background music, I once saw that you replied to someone, saying that you're making the music yourself. Is there any chance you could upload your music? Its very relaxing and I would listen to it while studying.

[@marycarmenordonez3781]

he has a separate channel which you can find a link to in the Friends section of the channel where he posts some videos made for his own (beautiful) compositions and tells you where to find his eps, the channel is just named after him.

[@nightwhenjar]

Just thanks THANKS

[@nemate3956]

In the past Arab Turk India all love Persian unfortunately this days every non Persian speaking hate Persian and Moghul

[@Leo-ue6xz]

Nah actually Turks are quite neutral to Persians. Religiously speaking sunnis are not fond of you guys but I personally find Persian culture pretty amazing, love Persian language and poems, I am also in love with Persian women.

[@SoeChan-xv8pm]

Turks and Persians fought a lot. However, I have not seen Turks say anything bad about Iranians. On the contrary, I see Iranians always insulting Turks, Arabs, Kurds on the Internet.

[@seanp3302]

you should make a video about Marian apparitions.

[@omarpervaiz]

How is the Azan not musical? Bilal(R) was chosen for his beautiful(obviously in tune) and emotive voice and yet they say... Music is Haram. Sad!

[@stevenv6463]

Maybe this is too specialized for this format but could you talk about the use of maqamat in Quranic recitation? I know some conservative scholars dislike it and many traditional scholars like it. When I lived in Egypt, I was vaguely told it came from Persia. A sheikh told me that you should recite verses about heaven a certain way and hell a certain way.

[@mms0254]

Bro ur videos are great but pls filter the noise of ur mic with a software like audacity.

[@bouseuxlatache4140]

risky and beautiful topic

[@HaharuRecords]

What I understood from writings is the most traditional music known today ceme from Mesopotamian Civilization, so Persia and sts Dastgah system must be the most original form of middleast I guess.

[@anonymousk4694]

Nice video I was waiting for part 2 since I watched the first one. Now I'm waiting for part 3 :)

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Don't hold your breath, hehe!

[@nusaibahibraheem8183]

Please what is the song that you mentioned at 6:29. Could you write it down. And please like the video of the song if possible thank you. I just discovered you recently and I intend to watch all your videos and have been sharing your account with everyone I know. To me your channel is a history channel. Hope to become your patron in the future when am able.

[@muhammadbashirmuhammad5529]

Do you have a video about the contribution of women in the religion of Islam and the golden ages.

[@ziemowitboruta8189]

Ethnomusicological mistake. When speaking about kemancheh you shown a picture of persian kemanche, totally distinct from istanbul version. Ottomans would call kemancheh an all wooden instrument derived from bizantian lyra (search for klasik kemençe or politiki lyra). Keman means simply bow in persoan language, so kemancheh is just little bow, could be any bowed instrument :). A similiar instrument to one you have shown would be called rebab by ottomans.

[@4wrds993]

I personally enjoyed your content on Daoism the most probably because I'm more interested in those type of eastern philosopher however I can understand that Islamic themed videos are more asked for. also does anyone know where I can find videos like his commentaries on daoism?

[@robert.bruce_]

Anybody know what piece of music the intro is? Sounds so familiar

[@LetsTalkReligion]

It's just a piece of music I made for that intro specifically.

[@1itoasif]

Sandstorm..Darude

[@guillermobeschizza7873]

Great videos! I was under the impression that Islam does not allow the portrayal of people, but you always use images with people in them. Am I wrong or what am I missing? Thanks!

[@haroon420]

Only the prophets. That’s the main consensus. But modern day Islamist nutjobs like to blanket ban anything they don’t like.

[@henriklarssonstanaccount5599]

Bring back upside down LTR face on the thumbnails, a la Shinto

[@RonJohn63]

14:30 European ambassadors wearing tri-corner hats? 28:10 aka "tambourine".

[@afri-cola1594]

Hey, can you make a video on the Bogomils?

[@sosiesosie9162]

You should do music of all Semitic religions

[@pierrepa8372]

what about southeast Asia?

[@zorbaz3940]

Very good

[@kurche3832]

Can u do Video on the Rifai Tariqa?

[@kutayergin4497]

can you make a video about Suhrewardi?

[@kensmith8152]

Yeah but can you dance to it?