The #1 Trending TikTok song sounds a lot like Paramore

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[@MusicisWin]

What's your verdict? BTW. check this out on TikTok: bit.ly/3hJTmO1

[@lenaterryy]

Does he reply back?

[@dlc435]

Have you ever farted before

[@Tiktok-gi3dj]

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[@lucastrivedi8012]

Tyler when did the lunar ice silver sky arrive? Also, when did you get a Les Paul??

[@dlc435]

@@lucastrivedi8012Have you ever rimmed a Black Sphincter before

[@JumpMasterJef]

Can we all that agree, that Paramore solo was straight fire.

[@Ren542]

💯

[@jcfontaine0017]

When he was playing the melody too, it's just better lmao

[@bel.vermillion]

Yep! Absolutely!

[@GreenGenerationTV]

I actually dug the other better

[@Arenegade]

Omgggg yessss 😭💯

[@SteveWilsonNinja]

Tyler finding his inner Rick Beato

[@connorclark2805]

Your profile picture looks like Mr. Bean and Alice Cooper combined

[@brandoesntsocialise]

That was the only thing I thought the entire time. Just lacks the enthusiasm of Mr. Beato haha and I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way. These are my two favorite channels.

[@nolanr7679]

Rick actually said he really likes Olivia Rodrigo.

[@bleckybob]

Don’t know about that guy

[@ryanwilliams5093]

I don't know about that guy...

[@noahpauley]

Never in my life did I think Tyler would do a video on Olivia Rodrigo or Paramore, let alone the same video

[@oscartomlinson11]

So he had to shred to them, gotta keep it normal

[@216trixie]

He did say that this was a shill for tick tock.

[@yeetlord7746]

End is here

[@o0GrayMatters0o]

@@yeetlord7746 you spelled 'here' wrong

[@fireball676]

I still love Haley Williams and everything that band did.. and that’s coming from a dude who’s addicted to anything from the doom soundtrack to hair metal. I think every dude in high school from 2005-2011 had a soul biting crush on that girl. Amazing vocalist and a trendsetter. Kudos to Olivia but generation tiktok ain’t got shit on the 90’s and 2000’s

[@mcautomobile4475]

wow its like songs at the same bpm and key and genre share similarities. im sure paramore sounds a lot like other pop punk bands from the time as well

[@Rariiiinn]

I saw a mashup of these two songs the other day

[@themoonkid362]

KING SHIT you were FEEEEELING YOURSELF on that paramore solo

[@jasonfung8084]

As u can see the olivia rodrigo song it sounds more processed drums while in paramore song its more realistic raw sounding drums

[@Heartful]

............

[@mickeyhynes]

There are repeating patterns in pop music. A lot of Paramore's Riot era sound was influenced by 'Futures' era Jimmy Eat World, and peak era No Doubt. So long as people are honest about their influences and aren't trying to straight lift lyrics and melodies without accreditation, then there's no problem really.

[@MrJ.31]

This is Vanilla Ice vs Queen all over again

[@cortmiller]

I watched her on SNL the other night for the first time and though she seems just a mashup of Gwen stefani, alanis morrisett and Fiona apple. Like taking bits from each for a new generation.

[@Megan43210]

Good 4 you is a play on misery business . It’s on purpose . Look at the words and the meaning

[@lamarodomlover7]

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who heard the similarities

[@guvamonpokemono6816]

Funny how i like to listen Mystery business but not good 4 u...

[@FrightNFight]

I'm in the business of mystery, gang lets take it from the top She's got a body like a scooby snack, ticks like a haunted clock

[@katemacquarrie]

I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THSI

[@ddddoc7078]

Misery Business is from smack dab in the middle of my high school years... And there are now kids on high school who weren't even born when it came out 💀

[@GibsonFanaticUK]

Ahhh I don’t know about ‘inspiration’. I think the most important part of any melody is where it lands going between the chord changes. To me, it dictates a lot of the emotional feeling of a song, and in this case they’re IDENTICAL...

[@1majya1]

Exactly..i don't know how some don't hear it

[@gun4614]

yes sing the melody line of misery business chorus over good 4 u chorus . the melodies are exaclty the same in several places

[@ccwaffles455]

When I first heard good 4 u I thought it was Misery Business.

[@MikeHerbosa]

Well if you haven't noticed in the credits for good 4 u Olivia already added hayley and Josh in. It's not the first so g of Olivia she had to credit someone else deja vu has Taylor swift as the writer as well. These have been settled out of the public eye. Who knows what happened really...

[@austinglenn2417]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was planned and intentional. Misery Business is still a fan favorite, but Haley doesn’t like to play it anymore because of the lyrics and connotation. I could see this song being a tribute in a way of giving us a “new” Misery Business from a girl who is living and feeling this stuff right now, instead of people harassing Haley to play a song she isn’t comfortable with.

[@NitroCrypt]

It's also similar to take on me

[@emiyoder]

Hailey Williams has writing credits on the Olivia Rodrigo song

[@sollysetton1111]

not the purple guitar i was expecting

[@billnyfeler]

Misery Business is SOOO much better than Good 4 U. The choruses are very similar, but Paramore's versus are driving and exciting. Good 4 U versus put me to sleep.

[@matt55800]

Everyone tells me this song sounds like Paramore (cause I’m a Paramore fan) and while I see it, it’s not that similar. It does share the same chords in the chorus and the drum fill leading up to it. But that sounds about it. It’s definitely inspired by it though

[@iStevenPlays]

Guys… it’s just heavily inspired by paramore. Chill.

[@dominicijavier1575]

converted to guitar, the landing notes are the same. so it's not just the chord progression which I can let pass. they basically ripped off the melody. it's like if you covered paramore but add your own twist but you still end at the target notes so it's still the same song. it's like that. a cover song they are trying to pass off as their own by shifting it 1pitch higher?

[@flandurham9493]

Man when i heard that song I was like, “this is good but you definitely grew up on paramore”

[@timalvarez558]

Olivia was 4 when misery business came out and that makes me feel old.

[@flandurham9493]

@@timalvarez558 it’s just started to dawn on me that the 2000s were a long time ago

[@andrewmaymusic5080]

i thought the same thing when i heard it at a bowling alley the other day

[@Dillion203]

@@flandurham9493 member when you mom would say “they’re playing the hits” when 80s music was in KMart? We’re now that old but in Target.

[@jdavidmoreiraify]

well that's not a bad thing, being influenced by paramore

[@kellyb9432]

It's like they added some new marshmellows and shapes to attract new kids who never ate the old version.

[@andyroid5028]

*Haha. Exactly. Oh & don't forget that...* *🎶They're Magically Delicious!🎶*

[@dari9616]

I was thinking the same thing. If any pop punk band released a song like this no kids would like it and it would be considered “emo” but since it’s Olivia Rodrigo everyone loves it

[@KuhKronus]

@@dari9616 this is how we ended up with MGK’s “tickets to my downfall.”

[@dari9616]

@@KuhKronus Yea uh that happened....

[@dxaminal777]

What a perfect metaphor for the consumption of pop and the minds of marketers.

[@colinmcguigan4630]

Paramore remains undefeated 😍

[@Rawan_unfiltered]

No doubt

[@aaeropump]

Vocally and muscially not even close to comparison.. Misery business packs a punch

[@Rain-js5ln]

hell yeah

[@umiloyayi]

But that is not the point of the video....

[@colinmcguigan4630]

@@umiloyayi I know. Old Paramore just gets me hyped

[@awookieandagerman]

Also that solo over Misery Business was FACE MELTING.

[@lindenellefson8558]

Immediate smile inducing solo. Misery Business is perfect, but that solo added something special to it.

[@NathanielBarryLastra]

Totally agree. Thought it started a bit worse than the Rodrigo one but then he went for the high notes and BAM my heart fizzled. Damn good shit.

[@heinoustentacles5719]

If your face is made of ice, perhaps. Good song but there are harder solos

[@Nakia11798]

Misery Business is just the better song overall

[@PnkPrncss6986]

Haley William's is now credited on the song lmao.

[@Jinnie2013]

After OR being called out lmao.

[@donttalktome313]

Yeah shameless bunch

[@LeonardoDiax24]

Good

[@AB-wn4kd]

Does that mean she's gonna get royalty?

[@sk8rat86]

@@AB-wn4kd Yupp she apparently paid millions to Taylor swift and paramore

[@strangenoisepodcast2116]

It's like Stephen King said, "Sooner or later, everything old becomes new again." ...btw, the shredding on Misery Business was awesome!

[@grmm6845]

"Hey dude, can I copy your homework?" "Yeah man, just change it up a bit"

[@MrGregggleziii]

Except Olivia didnt change shit..Damn shes trash.

[@rzkna]

@@MrGregggleziii exactly the trash of music industry

[@owensdagoat]

@@MrGregggleziii better listen to MGK pop punk stuff

[@eronkarlvictorino7401]

@@MrGregggleziii I wouldn’t say she didn’t change anything though, in the vid he had to edit someones song to fit the other for blending, he just chose Olivia’s.

[@strxwbunny]

@@MrGregggleziii Exactly!! She has no originality. She also copied coffee breath by Sofia Mills (she's a small artist).That girl has no talent,she's the biggest copycat in this music industry.

[@Doomfreak90]

Legend has it, that Olivia is the “other girl“ in Misery Business.

[@deadringer2349]

*insert mind blown meme*

[@insanetaco98]

But she was like 4 when misery business came out

[@pandulce4447]

That would make Hayley very abusive to a person who was literally 4 years old when that song came out

[@HolidayJZ]

@@insanetaco98 she’s not LITERALLY the other girl. It’s the point of view of the other girl Hayley Williams sings about.

[@strangerinthealps2258]

HAHAHAHA

[@ShatteringPerception]

Honestly feel like it could be a case of cryptomnesia where she honestly thought she made an original song but her subconscious mind pulled bits of something else. Or it could be the fact that there’s nothing new under the sun, with how fast pop songs come out, and the seeming resurgence of pop and alternative songs things are bound to sound similar. Look at how many songs share the same four cords. You can’t copy right a cord, or a melody etc.

[@BenJamin-0707]

i think she credited paramore not sure tho if not then she doesn’t deserve the praise

[@jv_matos]

I thought about this too, but the melody and chords are exactly the same, 2 BPM difference. She's a copycat remaking 2000s movies and tiktok songs for cringe 13yos because she can't make something good and original

[@eriiiiiiin]

@@jv_matos but she literally has many other amazing songs that prove she can?

[@jv_matos]

@@eriiiiiiin her songs are absolutely casual. Saturated pop like Lauv's tracks, it's just nothing that sticks out, just the ordinary pop radio music

[@putriscool]

or its just because shes a relatively new musician and it takes a while to develop a particular style, so most people pull from music they like

[@xmccormick]

Greta Van Fleet’s like, “I don’t hear any similarities.”

[@grantego553]

You know, I recently just started listening to GVF, and I have two mindsets listening to their first and then most recent album. I absolutely understand the criticism with the first album, but it mostly stems from the singers vocal tics. It was clear that he was mimicking Robert Plant’isms for From the Fires. Guitar wise, some stuff was very “Pagey” but very clean and deviated. This last album, I hear much less of the Robert Plant stuff and Led Zeppelin all around. It feels more like a meld of psychedelic and prog rock, and I dig it. I hear a lot of Rush style in it. I think they are growing as musicians for sure, and finding a solid voice and sound as they go, which I’ll always support. I’ll take the musicality, even with the similarities.

[@Electricalwav]

@@grantego553 lmao

[@DanHarkinz99]

Wolfmother- me neither

[@viv6594]

😂😂

[@seamusforpresident3670]

At least they haven’t ripped off a song hahahaha

[@NeonRadarMusic]

Honestly, those four chords are so common in pop music that it's pretty much guaranteed that certain songs that use those chords will sound similar (as you concluded in the video). But on a separate note, I think it's absolutely awesome that kids are gonna want to learn an actual rock song that isn't over twenty years old.

[@mateuszcielas3362]

but the melody kinda varies usually same with tempo, here is damn similar

[@orlock20]

Drum patterns are also similar, especially if one uses the stock beats on various drum machines.

[@JAce94007]

And most rock under 30 years old is all mopey shit that doesn't sound good

[@gultenpan8689]

@@JAce94007 there’s exceptions

[@JAce94007]

@@gultenpan8689 that's why I said most instead of all. There are some genuinely good tunes

[@paxtongerhart6863]

That’s a chord progression that’s very common in pop punk, which has been making one hell of a resurgence lately

[@ashleyavenuemusic]

music is more than a chord progression. timbre, tone, attitude, melody, timing, bpm. this song is a complete rip off

[@MedalionDS9]

People say rock is making a comeback... but all I hear are people trying to bring back pop punk from the 00's but worse than before

[@Skoomz]

@@MedalionDS9 check out cleopatrick, they're rock for the 2020s for sure

[@MedalionDS9]

@@badgasaurus4211 I don't listen to Sam Fender... and to be honest, I enjoyed pop punk from 00's... what i was saying is that, they are trying to resurrect 00's pop punk, but it sounds worse... they can't even do that right

[@lucasalfonso3546]

@@ashleyavenuemusic or you’re honestly just bullshitting because you can’t accept the fact that this artist is overshadowing whoever you like. It isn’t a rip off, like he said lol

[@irfandani2305]

No one can beat Paramore.hayley's voice range is beyond level.she can sing higher note with effortlessly

[@zzz8630]

And shes peng too

[@theonlyexcpshan]

agree, shes better live too

[@TheCodGodRSGaming]

@@theonlyexcpshan baby I'm too eMOOOOOtIONAAL

[@jc317]

Not for me, Olivia’s voice sounds so angelic to me…

[@irfandani2305]

@@jc317 ok....

[@ryanpetrak]

you’re a brave man considering that the copyright system is broken

[@DeanJG-Guitar]

It seems like Olivia kept a very similar song, but made it more “radio-friendly” by getting rid of the drop tuning, the heavy drums, and the aggressive distortion

[@sarahneal7189]

Those are all the good parts :(

[@GundamGokuTV]

Radio friendly. Like Paramore wasn't all over the radio.

[@DeanJG-Guitar]

@@GundamGokuTV they were on rock channels and stuff, not top hits. They’ve only ever had 1 song in the top 40 and it was only there for a week

[@-alyissa-3632]

@@DeanJG-Guitar I would say a lot of the music that gets popular on tik tok is pretty good but I run in alt circles on there so maybe I'm just getting the good stuff lol

[@-alyissa-3632]

@@DeanJG-Guitar also Paramore has always been radio friendly. You don't remember when still into you and ain't it fun were literally everywhere? or how big of a hit after laughter was? Like come on now

[@ZachKingCompilations]

The best part is 4:09 when he starts the solo!!

[@undrgrndprodigi]

It’s so weird now to hear that Olivia has given writing credits to Paramore for Good 4 U

[@sidekicks1403]

a common action by the label to avoid controversy

[@animevirus2]

damage control

[@Suumac_]

Did she really? Hayley takes the W no matter what

[@nicolejarel5953]

It’s just weird that Taylor swift was given immediate credit for Deja Vu. But this one just happened now, even though this sounds WAY more similar.

[@TheFoezee]

good way to avoid a lawsuit

[@unacuentadeyoutube13]

"We are getting to the point where pop songs sound like other pop songs that sounds like other songs". Some random commenter in a Rick Beato's video

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Thanks for making me think of paramore. Now I’m gonna put in my air pods and go ride my motorcycle listening to paramore.

[@LukeWandersCreative]

Did Tyler just make us listen to Tik Tok song? Yes, yes he did.

[@x_metal3352]

I rest my case LOL 😂

[@DMSProduktions]

I feel SO dirty! EEWWW!

[@xkarenfromfinancex661]

Honestly, I wouldn't call it a tiktok song. Olivia is a big artist and her success has nothing to do with the app, it's all her musical talent only

[@DMSProduktions]

@@xkarenfromfinancex661 LOL!

[@pureviolet2742]

@@xkarenfromfinancex661 I agree

[@zzkeokizz]

I guess “That’s What You Get When You Let Your Heart Win!”😂

[@kirenfarooqui6103]

Lmaooooo

[@DreDay1993]

Nice one lol

[@gabbybarnas]

🙄👏🏼

[@julietlibre212]

Lol

[@wadecombs5218]

She definitely copied it. She also copied other songs on the album as well as the album artwork. She’s a plagiarist.

[@benjamin.kelley]

Paramore still did it better.

[@michaelfox1432]

My music theory teacher in high school said, "Music is derivative. Imagine there were only 12 words in the English language but as a poet you still have to rhyme, scan, and make sense. Now imagine poets suing each other for stealing verse." It's even more true when you consider most songs don't use all 12 notes, many only use 5 or 6. I would think it would be hard to find a top 10 song that didn't sound a lot like some other song before it.

[@patbingsuyaa]

Well said. I second this.

[@williamzhang970]

Uhhh there are more than 12 notes. Yes I watch Adam Neely and listen to Jacob Collier, why do you ask?

[@kyju7093]

While obviously there’s a limit to the number of keys you have on the piano. The main differentiating thing is the MELODY and COMPOSITION. Obviously you’re never going to reinvent the wheel and make a new note or chord no one has ever heard but the emotion delivery composition and MELODY is what makes music unique. This is a blatant lazy attempt at trying to copy and past the composition of a song that already works well and try to target to to kids that might not have any idea the original exists and pretend that they actually came up with it first and in their own. It’s shitty and deserves no respect or attention.

[@FranciT98]

Melody, timbre, rhythm, song structure and chords would like a word.

[@ronniejacobsen3000]

@Tyrone Williams This.

[@NoreasterGneiss]

My girlfriend showed me that song and I literally told her it sounds like it should be a Paramore song

[@yasmeenlewis3602]

just had the same with a part of her song jealousy and camille jansen - the first song i wrote

[@Nakia11798]

The rest of the album is whiny ballads for the most part. It's a shame.

[@villainesssidekick7110]

@@Nakia11798 i think she's following taylor swift's footsteps

[@doos6172]

I think the whole pop punk/punk rock scene might just be coming back especially with musicians like machine gun kelly basically swapping genres with his newest album

[@gerardosajidgamezsanchez6962]

While i dont like this genre particularly, I'm excited to see that guitar is coming back to the mainstream, and between this and great van fleet maybe rock comes back, I'm really looking forward to the new innovations that this era will bring to rock

[@thatsamazin-]

@@gerardosajidgamezsanchez6962 Goose, King Gizzard, Tame Impala, and thee osees, just to name a few. These bands have been keeping the electric guitar going for the last 10 years with quality music. I recommend digging into some of that if you haven’t heard it. ✌️

[@thatsamazin-]

@@badgasaurus4211 I just listened to “that sound” by him. I have to agree with you. I like that more than GVF. Greta are talented musicians. No doubt about that. They get a lot of hate they don’t deserve. But I’m definitely agreeing with you on Sam Fender. I’ll check out a few more later. Thanks! ✌️

[@gerardosajidgamezsanchez6962]

@@thatsamazin- I've heard them and yes they are keeping the guitar alive but this and GVF are the ones that are going into the mainstream both in social media and spotify top music, a lot of the time you have to go looking for a modern rock sound but this might make it a lot more common

[@gregorholmyard7821]

@@badgasaurus4211 spice is a great song too, I love the guitar in the chorus!

[@saimon4364]

Not a ripoff but Paramore could easily win a lawsuit if they want to.

[@micaelaclifford2729]

But Hayley is too supportive and nice to other artists, I swear she wouldn't do that, but I wish she did it just because Paramore deserves all the credit and money in the world, in my humble opinion.

[@Jockuptown]

@@micaelaclifford2729 do paramore even own their own music?

[@enricogg]

@@micaelaclifford2729 I love paramore to death but in my opinion there’s nothing to sue for. Paramore doesn’t own those chords and as long as the melody is different (which it is) there’s nothing wrong with it!

[@lukazlukaz9400]

awful take. So many aspects of the song are different. Verses completely. The descent on the chorus (tyler got it wrong, lead descends in paramore but theres no descend at the end of the sequence like ORs). Paramore has a different 2nd part of the chorus. The overall heaviness and tonal difference. The weighting of phrases. Chord sequences are copied in music! It happens, theres only so many you can do. Any 'four-chord song' writer could sue the other with that logic. Look at Adam Neelys vid on the Ed Sheeran v Marvin Gaye estate lawsuit.

[@saimon4364]

@@micaelaclifford2729 i don't think she'll want that but it's mostly up to the labels who does these things for easy money.

[@cutlass8783]

Just wondering... Did you ever get the crystal ice PRS?

[@mackenzieaamodt5698]

*I think it's Lunar Ice, but I was wondering if he would ever make a video on it too!!

[@xsbutter]

He is using the Lunar Ice PRS. This isn’t his usual Orion Green one.

[@xsbutter]

@@mackenzieaamodt5698 Hey man, didn’t seem like Cutlass 87 knew. Anyway, I don’t think a video about his Lunar Ice SS would make a lot of sense. Even a 10 minute video takes hours to produce, and he wouldn’t be saying anything which hasn’t been said many times over in other videos. A video about the guitar just doesn’t make sense from a business perspective. Also, I doubt the guitar is that big big of a deal to Tyler. It’s a what, a $4000 limited run guitar? Heck, a Dave Grohl signature goes for like $10,000. Gibson Custom Shop guitars start at like $4500.

[@nelly430]

Despite everybody comparing the two songs I couldn’t hear the similarities until I watched this video! I definitely love Misery Business more (it goes WAAAYY harder and it’s a song I grew up with) but I also like good 4 u (much tamer but has some punk vibes). I think the popularity of good 4 u will open the possibility for pop punk/pop rock to come back into the mainstream.

[@stimpsonjcat26]

"eventually everyone rubs up against one another" lol. Yeah that's the pop scene. A lot of the songs in pop music tend to be written and arranged by the same people and they tend to use the same formula to write pop songs so it is fairly common for pop songs to sound similar.

[@everychannel1025]

Did Paramore write their own stuff?

[@ozekistyle]

@@everychannel1025 yup, their songs are really personal. Almost all are about the band members writing about each other and their differences. Pretty obvious why they are split in half now if you read their lyrics from their first three albums.

[@KiwiCrisis]

Paramore write their own songs, and as far as I know Olivia Rodrigo wrote her own (with a co-writer)

[@micaelaclifford2729]

@@everychannel1025 written, composed and produced by Paramore. Their first song was written when band members were around 13 and the youngest (the drummer) was only 11, they're so talented and hard working

[@stimpsonjcat26]

@@KiwiCrisis I don't know about paramore but when a pop star has a "co-writer" it usually means the co-writer did most of the work in creating the song. The record companies like to make it look like the artists are creative and that they write their own music. The majority of the time it is just a facade to win people over. Not saying some pop stars aren't talented but the modern pop industry doesn't care about talent.

[@anthonyrider889]

My verdict is that she said it was inspired by pop punk bands she listened to in the 00s, and clearly one of them was Paramore. I think it does have a strong resemblance to Misery Business, but not in a bad way, it feels like a callback or this era, and the resurgence is quite nice, and she’s probably helping Avril in process because when she releases her Pop Punk album very shortly, it’ll fit the soundscape nicely. Also I saw a comment saying something about Chinese satellite sounding like Drivers License, I disagree with that, I honestly think they sound nothing alike, but that’s your opinion. I do however think good 4 u is a more teen pop take on Misery Business in a sense, but I think both songs are fire.

[@orgasmatronrickpsych]

what was she listening to in the 2000's? she was a toddler. born in 2003

[@anthonyrider889]

Because if you were born in the 00s you’re going to grow up listening to 00s music that you hear on the radio all the time because streaming wasn’t a thing then, and sometimes the stuff your parents played for you through pandora and burnt CDs. I was born in a couple years after her, and I definitely feel a strong connection to the 00s as a whole and the early parts of the 2010s cause that’s when I was still young. And it’s not like music stops being played a year after it comes out (especially a big hit like Misery Business.) People listen to the music pretty much from the time their born, so yes she listened to music in the 00s, some of it she may have forgotten about because she’s young, but some stuff will really stick with you.

[@anthonyrider889]

I’m huge Paramore fan and I’m super excited for the new music, but songs having the same chord progression shouldn’t be the basis for a writing credit. We are Never Getting Back Together and Misery Business work strangely well together for the same reason. Olivia Rodrigo just copied a bit too close I think with the angst, but should we really be trademarking a feeling like angst. Again without a question of the doubt she was influenced by Paramore, but they didn’t need a writing credit on the song, just maybe a shout out.

[@ReeWebster]

The progression is too generic to say it’s copied.

[@user-nh3tm8mu4r]

Exactly you can't copy a chord progression lmao that's not how it works

[@cmoneman3025]

I'll be honest listening to Good 4 u once made me go on a week long Misery Business bender...paramore been getting my streams lately

[@danieljones3846]

Y’all, both songs are great. 11 years olds jamming to this today weren’t even born when paramore dropped their first 3 albums so I’m honestly not surprised, I’m just happy rock type music is getting back into the mainstream

[@jennilynn0711]

Exactly! My 10 year old daughter jams out to good 4 u and wouldnt know who paramore is. I like both and have always been a fan of rock from the 80s and up but definitely the 80s

[@DEADMOOSE23]

Any musician who has enough experience will tell you that it's hard to listen to almost any simple chord progression without hearing multiple songs. Considering paramore doesn't play it live anymore I don't think they are stepping on anyone's toes writing something so similar.

[@dante6x]

I agree to a point. If Olivia just used the same chord progression I would be on the same boat. The problem comes when it's apparent Olivia also used the same melodies and same voice as Haley. I don't think it's entirely her fault but more her label trying to push a certain type of "image". They knew how successful misery business was and they tried to make a hit song

[@tannerchapman6257]

Yo I start guitar lessons Monday you inspire me so much Update: it went well I learned g and c chords

[@jackhaugh]

Quit while you’re ahead. If you’re inspired by this tool, you obviously have no idea what music is about.

[@gabziu3161]

@@jackhaugh What?

[@omithehomi8568]

@@jackhaugh man stfu

[@scottflora5816]

You can do it just always keep practicing

[@AsteroidStrike]

Don't be discouraged once you show someone how hard you've worked at something and they seem completely unimpressed. That was a hard lesson learned for me. People don't realize how much work goes into playing the guitar. Just keep practicing and keep that passion and you'll eventually force people to turn their heads and pay attention. Good luck though man! I'm sure you'll do great

[@michaelhood2109]

Reading the comments, I gotta say "denying the truth, doesn't change the facts."

[@noelfletcher1149]

Isn’t the first time she’s done this - Drivers License is just Chinese Satellite by Phoebe Bridgers - and that’s probably something else!

[@tobyokafor6069]

Nah I don’t hear the comparison in that one compared to good 4 u and misery business

[@bimmy6823]

How

[@CoralineMoth]

Paramore is immaculate. But for some reason that girl’s song drives me nuts. Even though those songs are TOO similar. Paramore is just better. 🤷‍♀️

[@kyju7093]

Maybe because it’s literally a blatant unoriginal dollar store rip off of a much better timeless classic. That’s with any remake or remaster or reimagined stuff in movies it’s not much different in music to me except music is much more emotional and personal and imo it’s more wrong to steal another artists hard work and emotion they put in for a cheap one hit wonder.

[@CoralineMoth]

@@kyju7093 110000%%. If someone did something like this to one of my songs I’d be so upset

[@bvgaboo3572]

While sounding like a “girl in red” version

[@CoralineMoth]

@@bvgaboo3572 even girl in red is better

[@AD1978leo]

Is she a Paramore fan? If so, it makes perfect sense. We all have our influences.

[@rzkna]

she copied all other artists. lol

[@dndpree]

oh shut the f*ck up. She gave credit.

[@rzkna]

@@dndpree hail olive oil

[@kevinvisscher7815]

This girl just copying alot of other artist.

[@jamesglynn4192]

Ooo, haven't seen that guitar in a while😍

[@tomasschiappacassi2401]

Really not that similar imo

[@giovannabarbato8877]

So basically she used a sample of the original song by paramore WITHOUT asking for permission to use it. So now she gave the credits for paramore, you know the right name for that. She would probably be sued if she didn’t.

[@doodoopoo]

the hell do you mean by "sample"

[@giovannabarbato8877]

@@doodoopoo It's not actually a sample, she basically plagiariazed and gave the credits to the group only now

[@doodoopoo]

@@giovannabarbato8877 yeah I got that far, that's why I asked

[@obiajulumgbechi]

She didn’t sample it. It’s just the same chord progression.

[@DennisMartenssonOfficial]

It's almost "haunting" how, if you take two songs in a similar genre, take the two parts in each song that sounds the most alike, pitch shift and tempo shift so they both align with each other, they sound kinda similar! This is not a point towards you specifically, I definitely agree with your last words. It's more towards people doing these comparisons and then claiming artist A "copied" artist B. My point is just that these kinds of comparison are just kinda.. Weird. Like, you take a lot of steps to make songs sound more similar, and then they.. Sound more similar? Well, yes? You could probably do that with many songs and they would line up almost perfectly. Again. Not taking a jab at you. Thought your closing words align really well with what I feel. Chord progressions are used over and over again, because they work, why reinvent the wheel, right? And when you use a specific chord progression, certain pattern in melodies just works better than others. If two songs in a similar genre uses the same chord progression and has similar melodies, chances are, at some point two melodies will sound similar. And that's okay! It's how we evolve music.

[@cybertronguy98]

good shit Bethany, solid catch lol. i mean yeah pretty standard chord progression but i think its the rhythm and the melody of the vocal that really makes you notice the similarity.

[@andyroid5028]

*Definitely some 'influence' taking place there, eh? I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE MORE ROCK/GUITAR-BASED ROCK SONGS BECOMING POPULAR! I hope it's not just an anomaly.👍🏼* To be clear, I don't hate other forms of music, but there are some genres that are promoted/overplayed. And this seems to have been done a lot lately, especially during the last 10-15 years (I'm not gonna say what genre I'm referring to, but a lot of the songs within this genre is cRAP). 😉

[@thejusticeization]

rap is an abomination. i can't stand that garbage, rather listen to paramore on repeat than that

[@2006ドイツ語の]

@@thejusticeization So if you say rap is garbage, you don't like Nu Metal?

[@thejusticeization]

@@2006ドイツ語の no.

[@2006ドイツ語の]

@@thejusticeization Ok 👍

[@nedflandersblender]

@@2006ドイツ語の nu metal is way different than today’s rap, anybody who has listened to the two Genres knows that

[@jodeemackenzie]

When my daughter showed me the olivia rodrigo song i said hold on, I then pulled up paramore. I said this song was around when i was a teenager. Her first response was omg olivia copied her. Lol i have to agree.

[@denttech2515]

They are similar, very similar, but I'm so sick of the music industry and social media claiming copyright on everything. Let's just make music and keep the lawyers out of it... As long as we give credit where credit is due (which she ultimately did), that's all that matters. FIGHTING OVER EVERY DOLLAR RUINS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. People are scared to make and release art. SUCKS

[@ClikcerProductions]

Honestly I think the big thing is the "But god does it feel so good"/"God I wish I could do that" because as you said they're the same notes, I picked up on that when I first listened to good 4 u, but nothing else is really similar beyond your typical pop rock tropes, that one thing is enough to make you think of misery business though

[@definitelyjustjj4042]

I totally understand. I found my first ever composition sounding like Dead Air by Blessthefall. I didn't intentionally copy or anything but things like this just happens sometimes. Maybe for Olivia's case she's inspired by Paramore but I don't mind because for the first time ever I actually enjoy a number one song.

[@noahreasoner]

“well I guess everyone eventually rubs up against one-another *starts fake laughing* “ 🤣

[@alexo5861]

Someone once said “Good musicians borrow, great musicians steal!”. I think this is a case or borrow! Good catch on Bethany, nice demonstration by Tyler. Mr. Beato has talked about this type of “borrowing” in pop music in a couple videos too, but not these two song specifically.

[@Mindartcreativity]

As a teen when I started playing guitar I loved Paramore! I even named my Epiphone SG "Haley" because of them XD Later when I played in a metalcore band I still took influence from Paramore in my writing, especially when writing choruses. Oh the nostalgia.

[@taylorgang2237]

Missed the fact that the verses are sung in a lower almost spoken register and the lead in to both choruses have a similar drum roll/fill.

[@Frank_Serota]

Same formula, slightly different outcome.

[@Kay----]

Congrats on finding out they have the same chord progression.. as many songs do. It's annoying when artists think they were the first to ever use a chord progression in a specific way. There are always gonna be similar songs. I absolutely love Paramore and Misery Business, but they didn't invent something. There are songs out there that are WAY bigger rip offs than this. All that being said...: Misery Business >>>>

[@RanterInShades]

As someone who only recently got into early Paramore last year, I appreciate this.

[@darthhull85]

It’s the best Paramore to be into.

[@jsk8et]

Her song “Driver’s License” uses some of the same really nice motifs as the Billie Eilish song “I Love You.” Whether she’s ripping them intentionally or not I can’t say, but she seems to have good taste so she could have a promising future. I don’t know how involved with the writing she is but people talk like this is her stuff so 🤷🏻‍♂️. Let’s say for argument’s sake that she’s a primary writer lyrically and melodically. These are probably some of her first songs in that case and if nothing else, they demonstrate good songwriting instincts. But maybe I’m just feeling optimistic today and it’s all a ruse.

[@jsk8et]

@Chris Isaac Shelton (965ChrShel) that’s great!

[@Julius_Smith]

She's credited as the primary writer on all the songs. Song credits is her + her producer. Primary writer is traditionally listed first. Think she shows a lot of promise, keen to see what she does.

[@BenJamin-0707]

most of her songs all seem very similar to older songs

[@malakaman9437]

@Chris Isaac Shelton (965ChrShel) unfortunate name

[@jordanlevitt1638]

Just bc a song has a similar chord progression as another song, doesn't make the two songs the same. There's so much more than goes into a song than chords. To people not so versed in music, these songs may sound the same/similar. And the same could be said for Olivia's other work. People need to just get off her back. Let's not go after every woman in the music industry as soon as they get a big break.

[@firemonkey1015]

Just heads up, yeah she did steal it. She even had to pay millions to the Paramore band. She even had to pay Taylor swift off for another song she stole. What having no talent does to you. No wonder it sounded so damn familiar, I remember that Paramore song being huge in the early 2000’s

[@Jinnie2013]

Imagine if Olivia wasn't called out? She won't even add Paramore for credits lmao

[@caisnow4213]

And her fans are complaining bout she young artist and all that, why didnt she just give credit from the start?

[@Jinnie2013]

@@caisnow4213 it's not even about the age. Everyone knows you shouldn't take someone else's work without giving credits. She's just purely unethical

[@caisnow4213]

@@Jinnie2013 yeap and if other artists start looking into songs from the album then she's in trouble. The beginning of traitor sounds a lot like the beginning of 'The Night We Met' by Lord Huron and some parts in between the song have the same flow and melody.

[@Jinnie2013]

@@caisnow4213 i knew there was something similar about that! More so, cruel summer's bridge by taylor sounds the same with dejavu's bridge too. And so as Brutal's rock intro. So as 1 step forward 3 steps back chorus sounds like Billie's 6 feet under lmao

[@caisnow4213]

@@Jinnie2013 the more you listen the worst it gets, drivers license sounds 'like someone like you' by Adele. Olivia producers fail her at this point and if she's involved in production them she needs to seriously do better.

[@Jackthestripper]

I was never into pop punk growing up but fuck me if I'm not happy to see it back in the mainstream. I hope this keeps going.

[@SJN7]

Now I can't stop hearing Misery Business every time I hear Good For You

[@michael-pg8fi]

Unpopular opinion: hayley should sue her for this.

[@tagg580]

-Pan shot to dog- Others: oh look puppy! Me: where can I get that neon Majora’s Mask

[@fithablink]

Never heard of good for you before. First time hearing it on radio, I was like, "Did Paramore release a new song?" "Did Paramore change vocalist?"

[@Joehhh623]

So the only thing they share is similarities in harmony and genre. Which if you’re making punk rock you will sound like other punk rock. People really bullied her into giving credit for a song that inspired her. So dumb

[@hollywoodactress]

Yes seems to be 99% like Paramore.

[@monicasmm]

You’re about to get a lot of views on this lol

[@MedalionDS9]

When people say that Rock is making a comeback... all I hear are people trying to bring back pop-punk from the 00's... but somehow even worse

[@candideggplant1575]

I can kinda see it and kinda see where it branches off to its own thing. The whole riot album is amazing and I personally don't care for olivias stuff. That's the difference between influence and plaigarism. Maybe olivia didnt have ill intent but paid tribute or homage the same way some rappers interpolate verses as a way to give respect to rappers they were influenced by. Even if I don't understand Olivias stuff or care for it, I dont think she plaigarised.

[@cedricrickdelsol9767]

Honestly, stuff like this just makes me want to download Tiktok just to hate on some kids for listening to modern music. This is it, guys. WE are the boomers now

[@dari9616]

The problem isn’t that they like modern music but rather that they only like it because it’s cool now

[@cedricrickdelsol9767]

@@dari9616 what triggers me even more is how many current chart hits are actually just samples of older songs, without the original artist being credited. For example, DJ Khaled's "Wild Thoughts" ft. Rihanna has over ONE BILLION views on KZbin, while Santana's "Maria Maria" (which was sampled for Khaled's song) only has slightly above 300 million (which is still a lot, but you get my point). Santana being one of the most influential guitarists of all time of course, but how would kids nowadays know about that

[@thebrickstudios9]

I don’t like a lot of chart music but 1. hating on other people for enjoying music is sooo lame and 2. Acting like a snob and thinking you’re superior for not enjoying pop music because you’re a musician is the saddest and dumbest thing you could do. I used to be like that . It’s not fun. Just learn to appreciate other styles of music, idiot.

[@cedricrickdelsol9767]

@@thebrickstudios9 I was about to reconsider and actually agree with you... Up to that last word. Wow. Just wow.

[@Mieowsen]

@@cedricrickdelsol9767 They are credited, they get royalties from it, but you simply don't credit samples in a song title. Also, the Santana song comes from a time where youtube and spotify weren't a thing, so the santana version was probably listened to more.