Famous Riffs Guitar Players Play Wrong

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[@MusicisWin]

What riff do you see people play "wrong"?

[@OscarPlaysGuitar]

Shape of my heart - sting

[@MegadethFan9000]

Iron Man by Black Sabbath, everyone plays it on the 5th string 2nd fret, which is incorrect. If you watch Tony Iommi live, he plays it on the 6th string 7th fret.

[@DeserveHD]

Cant stop, only playing one string at a time

[@BoazWainscott]

Water on the smoke

[@Yoni168]

Whole lotta love. There’s an open D there that no one plays, and a lot of people play it with fast chugging that doesn’t exist in the actual song.

[@the_neon_dog]

Tyler’s rocking so hard his brains started punching through the skull.

[@VeryGood464]

He headbanged so hard he "rattled something up".

[@GeorgGaia]

He played Master exploder

[@RustyPryde]

I figured he was switching to drums, and got a lobotomy.

[@aarorissanen930]

@@VeryGood464 He rattled his goddamn head

[@benji280792]

It's a zombie bite

[@brianmcawesome]

I think the reason Pat is voicing the chord like that is Foo Fighters have 3 guitar players and his role is usually the connection from guitar to bass. He frequently plays with baritone guitars to get this affect. It would make sense he brings a bit of the bass melody in his chord voicings.

[@lachlann4275]

Tyler still played Battery wrong lmao

[@doctoribanez]

I still can't believe someone smashed you with a bottle. Sick looking guitar

[@HowToPlayGuitarLikeABoss]

Also on the Welcome To The Jungle riff there’s a cool slide when it repeats which makes it even better

[@allamericancooking]

I like John Mayer’s little allusion to “Hey Joe” with that chromatic ascending pattern on the turn around in “Voodoo Chile”

[@Guitarchie]

I think this is the first and only video on Music Is Win where it features Mötley Crüe with Nikki Sixx sitting with Slash

[@woodch]

Winger (Reb Beach) - Seventeen. My one major "win" as a young, budding guitarist back in the day was discovering that Guitar Magazine had the tab wrong for the main riff. I saw Winger play it live on MTV New Year's Eve 88/89, and realized he was making different, "easier" shapes by just moving his pinky around, rather than bunching up and trying to shift frets on the B string. It also sounded "more correct" to my ear, and I was so happy to find years later, Reb himself saying exactly the same thing: that everyone gets it wrong, and then he demonstrated how to do it properly. Side note-- if you can find the multi-track stems for that song, the rhythm part is so much more nuanced and interesting than I remember, which should be no surprise to any Reb Beach fans.

[@rybones1311]

Reb is such a beast!

[@Yoni168]

I’ve played WTTJ with the open Bb since I learned it for the first time. I think a key part of nailing the tone is to have the pick completely parallel to the string (as opposed to in an angle), I feel like you get more mid-range that way.

[@MrMeek79]

"Wish you were here"-Pink Floyd is one that I learned one way,seen others playing it that way,but recently learned the way Gilmour plays it. Both look and sound almost identical. "Crazy train"-Ozzy,is another one. I learned the main riff from some magazine long time ago but then learned their is a slight difference in the actual way Randy did it. Nirvana has several as well but Kurt would slightly change his songs too. That is a sweet guitar.

[@martyshwaartz971]

Everytime I listen to Wish You Were Here I spot something I'm doing wrong.

[@dcarpenter85]

Enter Sandman is the first one that comes to mind after watching Danilo Vicari's video last week. Hetfield plays it in a way that allows all the strings to ring out. Slightly less comfortable to play but sounds spot on (because it is).

[@prometheustv6558]

I remember that old video of yours “top 5 James Hetfield riffs”. And the whole comment section was telling u u played Battery wrong.

[@TribalGuitars]

Great video as always! It's pretty funny how so many of us get what seems like the most simple stuff wrong. Get some Scar Zone for that noggin. Worked wonders on a scar I had that looked like I lost a bar fight instead of a thyroid gland.

[@grmnxd8842]

Beautiful guitar Tyler!

[@julianmay5653]

Im sorry Buddy, but Welcome to the jungle is still wrong dude. You slide into that B-Note from the A-Note on the G-String (talking standard tuning here of course) Slash even does it in the video. That’s also why he ends the walkdown with the middlefinger on the B-Note on the A-String, so it’s easy to slide into that b with the ringfinger. That little sliding detail makes the riff in my opinion, because it adds the little change instead of spaming the b string all over the riff. And by the way there is also a really distinct palm muting technique that I just can’t explain here by writing this comment. Love your videos anyways, I’m just such a slash nerd I had to write this comment, maybe you can relate !

[@submandarine6874]

And you still forgot something, the second time he repeats the riff is different from the others, a detail wich is very noticable but being ignored by almost everyone. The only cover i found with it is by Kfir Ochaion, but he is missing the slides. Slash also doesnt do that live, but sometimes he varies one or two repititions in a similar way. I wonder if besides Slash anyone has played this riff ecactly like on the recording at all :)

[@christophermyers8157]

Standard tuning in E flat.

[@alexhowe]

Hey Tyler - I live near that guitar shop in North Dakota (Flatland Guitar), and that guy still works there, he's awesome! In fact, Flatland expanded their store in the last year and they carry a lot more cool guitar equipment. Excellent callback!

[@logank.70]

I frequent Flatland Guitar here in Fargo. They've grown and still just as awesome as ever. I'm so glad they are still around and thriving. I wouldn't want to go anywhere else.

[@TheSpydersBand]

Our cover band knows a lot of songs. To remember them, we tend to simplify things and rarely play songs EXACTLY like the recording. Bottom line is pretty much nobody in the audience knows or cares.

[@perkins1439]

If it sounds good keep doing it

[@Ean9881]

Another part of the opening to Welcome to the Jungle players skip is sliding into the notes… it’s a little nuance that gives it extra flavor

[@stepitupandgo67]

I just now learned the "welcome to the jungle" intro properly...40 years later!! thanx Tyler

[@dougberry5003]

good vid Tyler, Good info, Can't wait for that new guitar info in the video, Haven't seen one of those, Looks killer.. And a kill switch, Rock on Buckethead style!

[@JerryTheVeganRockstar]

Love the Keisel. Kill switch & sustainer. Just need a Floyd to complete the trilogy. Also, the Voodoo has the Hey Joe run in your demo

[@henmat3000]

You played 'Back in Black' just fine. Originally, the guitars only play A; it's the bass that plays a C#, not the guitars.

[@vaibanez17]

But it does sound better the other way

[@henmat3000]

whatever you prefer@@vaibanez17

[@nygelpereira6540]

GREAT Video as usual ❤❤

[@macleod41069]

In your comment about back in black you mentioned the a first inversion having d flat in the bass. It’s C sharp , same note but harmonically correct. Seeing as your talking about how people do things wrong 😉

[@scythe4277]

Now that Tyler’s Nueralink has been installed he’s ready to rock harder than ever!!!! 🤘🏼

[@donkeehotay]

Glad you said "more on this guitar soon." The whole time I was thinking "what did you do to that Kiesel?!" It looks great but I'm pretty sure it didn't come from them with that purple LED switch, or those pickups. 😆

[@Musical_Peppermint]

I find it so cool how he came to the shop in ND, and now I work there!

[@vinny5004]

Starting with Back in Black, you should have talked about the picking vs pull-off in the main riff and the way Angus plays it (first picked, second pull-off) is different from most people (all pull-offs).

[@erikrandan7294]

Surprised no mention of all the Sabbath riffs everybody plays on the A and D strings that Iommi plays around the 12th fret on the E and A.

[@guitaristssuck8979]

Paranoid

[@christophermyers8157]

For some reason nobody cuts the tips of their fingrers off before playing these riffs correctly? Django is another, that cannot be played correctly by anyone! Unless you are willing to suffer physical deformity and get it just right, you can't play these guys riffs the same way! Yes you can imitate them and get the melody exactly right, but you will never obtain the correct fingerings these guys had to torture themselves into to be musicians. Tell me you can play Rick Rhenstrom's riffs right!

[@guitaristssuck8979]

@@christophermyers8157 nonsense.

[@ehdrootofbeard4411]

Pretty sure Battery is still wrong here 🥺🧐 The D diad is supposed to be Eb and the last 3 powerchords are F#, G and G# (instead of A 👀) I learned this the hard way too 🤣👀

[@andrewpappas9311]

Another song I’ve seen people play wrong is All Right Now by Free, even though it sounds like just a regular A-D/A switch you can hear Paul Kossof playing an A on the high E string for both chords if you listen closely

[@reNINTENDO]

Looking forward to hear more about that guitar. I was wondering the whole video about the glowing bit. Plus it just looks sick as fuck.

[@boldorider4]

I love your rendition of black dog!

[@felixlindgren4146]

Isn’t battery still different? I always heard as a minor Eb not major D. Sounded for me to here the D in there

[@1234drums]

Very nerdy guitar vid... love that ❤❤❤❤

[@RedEyeC]

Riffs are usually easy to get - it's the signature leads that can be almost impossible, even for the original artist to replicate.

[@mistersooty]

I play in tribute bands and the worst fear is that there'll be another guitarist in the audience spotting where you haven't learned the parts properly. But you know, when you're having to learn 3 hours worth of songs you take a few short cuts. I've been playing guitar 38 years and your videos make me realize I have no idea what I'm doing. 😂

[@christophermyers8157]

Playing the melody is the most important part, regardless of any other differences. Even when in a different key. You'll even see bands like Van Halen record in E then play live in E flat. It used to be the industry standard to record in standard tuning, then play live in dropped D or completely dropped E flat tuning live. Ratt, Dokken, Van Halen, Poison, etc. This is due to having a male singer that isn't proficient with a falsetto or higher register chest voice. It turns out that E flat is the highest note an untrained male singer can typically hit. Thus in the studio when you get 10 takes on the vocals you can hit the high E, G, B, G#, but live, you only get one chance, and it can't be at the end of your range if you are going to nail it every time, it has to be in your comfort zone. Guns and Roses is really notable for this. Axel rarely could hit the higher notes in the recordings live without his tone breaking up into an unmusical sound. Hetfield is exactly the same. Rush is extremely notable for this, as they will play their first set in standard tuning, and their second set in dropped tuning because Geddy can't hit the higher notes for 3 hours straight, but has no problem with the slightly lower pitch.

[@BayouBlaster44]

SRV played “Scuttle Buttin’” differently live than in the recording. The main lick is played with a whole step bend at the 2nd and 3rd frets on the recording, but nailing these bends night after night live was way too gnarly on .13 gauge strings so he changed to a slide up instead

[@freultwah]

I've seen 'Silent Lucidity' by Queensryche played 'wrong' many times. Online tabs direct towards playing the opening riff with the open G-string, but Chris DeGarmo plays it on the 5th fret of the D-string. The shape is also easier to shift around, which he does for the follow-up riff.

[@mistersooty]

Yes, this really used to bug me seeing tabs without the bass note when any live video made it obvious how he was playing it. Plus you can hear the wound string.

[@wickrider]

Great video. I hear John Mayer go for a wink at Hey Joe in the way he played Voodoo child, right? Always love riffs turned over on their heads. Cheers, MC

[@user-yn7dh8jf3h]

We need more Howard😂😂

[@NedJeffery]

That Modern Eagle doesn't get enough love. You should play it more often.

[@TheRealReTox]

Smoke on the Water. When I first started playing guitar that was all power chords. Once the ear got more trained I could tell I wasn't playing it right. This was long before the internet and the ease of access to tabs, sheet music, and tutorial videos we have now. Total facepalm moment when you finally learn it correctly, but that's the journey.

[@CorbCorbin]

And what _is_ the correct way? That is one song that should go on a list of songs that the guy who played it on the record either intentionally or mistakenly show how they play it live(or when asked), as opposed to the actual way they recorded it. There are still debates happening right now, on the interview he shows how he’s doing it on an acoustic, and every live version, whether Deep Purple or Rainbow era. 😂

[@haitchkay]

It is powerchords. Just upside down (rootnote is higher note and 5th is lower)

[@JoeThornhill]

1:12 I thought you were gonna go into the rundown things on the higher then lower strings. Not sure which one is right on the E, B and G (play open B then bend G 2nd fret or play B 3rd fret, then G 2nd, then bend). But I'm sure I was taught wrong with the Low one. Sticking to the first couple of frets on the D, A and maybe E. I can't even remember how I was taught to do it.

[@johnmarquez333]

2 things. 1) Tell us more about that Kiesel guitar! (9:21 YES!) 2) I think you should put makeup on that scar and make it look different each video. Like a happy face one video, a question mark next video, etc. etc.

[@RC32Smiths01]

Slash calling the Open B an Open E by accident is so relatable haha. Reminds me of when I first started out!

[@christopher-miles]

he will get there one day. i'm sure he will be massive

[@renegaderichard8]

I’m shocked you didn’t mention Smoke On The Water or Bark at the Moon.

[@claynesbit7552]

I’ve never seen a guitar finished like that. It’s pretty cool

[@jamesrexsannatracy8318]

Killer tips, awesome 😎

[@peterb000]

In bass you have Billie Jean's riff, everybody plays it beginning at D string 4th fret, but every time you play the initial note it you also have to play E string 2th fret

[@danobrien3695]

I recently showed a kid how to play "Kashmir" by Led Leppelin... I think it opened a lot of doors for him when he realized the song was in DADGAD tuning

[@robtech341]

My very favorite way to play "Welcome to the Jungle" is to play any, I mean any, other song ever recorded since the beginning of time. Cheers!

[@thseed7]

That Keisel looks so freakin good.

[@mtguitar5150]

The hard thing about WTTJ is you need to be 100% precise for it to sound good

[@superworm1275]

that guitar is so amazingly beautiful

[@g.i.oevolution]

In battery. You take the minor third shape and move it down a half step for that part.

[@jameslightningappleby]

On jungle once you go to the d string grab the B note on the G-string and you can be a lot more sloppy with it without worrying about adding the dreaded open G to the riff by accident.

[@dylanstankewicz850]

Tyler, that white jacket looks killer

[@mrdfk9410]

That riff hendrix and mayer played was from "Hey Joe". That is part of Hendrixs charm. He never played his songs or their solos the exact same live.

[@The_blue_Manc]

I fckin love that guitar

[@gouthamakumar6591]

That weong black dog is so goddamn cool tho, ngl. Gonna try to make a song using it

[@moebius7900]

bro that guitar is so beautiful

[@nickboon1235]

Pets doing ad breaks is the best thing in 2023

[@beemerr2016]

Crazy, I just installed a kill switch button on my guitar 2 weeks ago! I like it better then the toggle switch on the les paul.

[@fenderfox5080]

The end of Basket Case has a weird inversion cord going on that I learned long ago and can't ever remember it as I'm playing it 😂

[@WarrenM9]

That kiesel guitar he uses is insane looking 🤘🤘🤘

[@Dave-nm3xc]

What kind of guitar is that? It looks and sounds awesome!

[@papablue3015]

My dogs like bed time story's! They run to the kennels at night when I say, "Who wants a bedtime story?" Funny! 😅

[@stratonarrow]

Shoutout to the Peavey Classic 30 in the background.

[@user-tx7ki2nd2d]

The intro that should not be named, due to copyright. Also, nobody plays the exact arpeggio to "Nothing Else Matters" verse.

[@SixStringSlinger1]

Fyn fact- that Voodoo Child motif that Hendrix and Mayer played is the same exact one from Hey Joe right after the solo.

[@jakekeys88music]

Sounded like you were going to jump into "Hey Joe" from "Voodoo Chile". :)

[@alexh3153]

Are you going to do a video on the sweet new Kiesel? And John Mayers lick was pretty much hey joe riff exactly

[@StefanNorlin]

is the Battery riff really like that? I've always heard 2 minor chords playing. on the A-string frets :7-7-6-7

[@potul]

Those voicings without the 5ths are quite used in jazz. Named shell chords

[@aardihilary408]

Yah back in black.. I played like him when it comes to A..

[@Uncle_Buzz]

That's an epic scar, dude.

[@halcooper3070]

The acdc lick, one of the fuitarsnis doing the c#, not just the base. I assume it was Malcolm. But it could be angus

[@broodingelm2216]

I’ve always been crap at covers (ADHD), usually I end up having to adjust so that they stick in my head.

[@mantequilla404]

Every alcoholic deserves good beer everyday, slash.

[@CorbCorbin]

Mayer just does the Hey Joe lines, in that version. Jimi is doing that, but he adds more notes and a bit of faster wrist movement. I see a lot of players just use C and D power chords. Which I’ll admit, hurts my soul, just a little. About,👌🏽much. 😄

[@christophermyers8157]

Of Course most people are overlooking that Hendrix didn't write "Hey Joe" or play it correctly to begin with. Billy Roberts, a white guy, nonetheless, was the writer and original guitarist on "Hey Joe" years before Hendrix covered it. The claim that some other musician wrote "Hey Joe" is dubious at best as Roberts holds the copyright, and the contested writers were working for record companies who somehow forgot to file copyight protection after claiming to finish their recordings. Anachronism. This is why copyrights are important. Many times a more powerful record company will produce what they claim is an older recording, without the crucial evidence, that it was copyrighted, or made public. Before the era of the internet, and big TV, super powerful record companies routinely stole and squashed the rights of many independent singer songwriters who refused to sign the rights to their signature songs away to the companies.

[@sauerlaender2k]

What guitar model is he playing in most of the takes in this vid?

[@kajetanguitarsection9553]

SICK GUITAR

[@adamnoelful]

To be honest i miss a little bit the opportunity to learn music/guitar theory on guitar Super System. I mean I know there are beginner videos but I think it goes from 0-50 real quick

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Buddy I just cannot get over that gash. And old Chinese technician once told me "Sometimes you don't go to the problem. The problem comes to you." and man! I just feel bad for you damn!!!

[@MrEvanBacon]

What guitar is he using? I somehow missed/can’t find a video of him talking about it

[@Zfusion911]

Howard is so cool

[@kingwilly8041]

Do "Metal Health (Bang Your Head)" by Quiet Riot. Different people always play it differently.

[@TylerJohnstonGuitar]

I’ve come to find out just about everybody plays Van Halen wrong, myself included. I like putting my own spin on stuff though. Makes me feel better for not being able to play like Ed 😂

[@danieljennings6144]

Well makes sense. There's only 1 eddie

[@DeAthWaGer]

Find better tabs. The official books are pretty darn accurate, internet ones are terrible. They even tell you how to set your delays/flanger. I bought the Best of tab book when I was 15 and a quarter century later I still refer to it or scan it for students. As soon as you tune down 1/4 step to learn Ain't Talkin accurately the floodgates pour open😂

[@danieljennings6144]

@DeAthWaGer the ultimate guitar app has official tabs, those tend to be as spot on as can be

[@DeAthWaGer]

@@danieljennings6144 haha cool but i refuse to pay for that crap. I found a torrent of all the guitar pro files instead 😁 If something is wrong I can easily fix it in the program, save, and email or print it. Songsterr is probably the worst when it comes to leads, I swear they are all made up by keyboardists. Just like TabIt files back years ago. At least in TabIt and Guitar Pro you can move the notes to other strings easily.

[@TylerJohnstonGuitar]

@@DeAthWaGer Oh the tabs aren’t the issue, my fingers don’t work like his 😂

[@AlexDMast]

That cream guitar be looking🔥

[@StarQueenEstrella]

4:08 but aren’t power “chords” technically diads anyway? They only contain two notes, the root and the perfect fifth. (And maybe the octave.)

[@CorbCorbin]

I agree, the two stringer, is the actual power chord, and three strings qualifies as well, it’s just adding the higher octave of the root, as you mention.

[@haitchkay]

Yes

[@danieljester7752]

i learned battery correctly by ear...and as i watch people fuck it up .i am pretty proud..i have a savant perfect pich ear though...you remind me of myself very young...i am 50 and had to learn it all the hard way...ear to the record...cheap gorilla amp and a tube screamer on a lyle elctric guitar...good luck even finding one of those...i also played master of puppets opening as hammet did down the neck rather than the scale method a lot of dumb asses always tried to play assuming i was wrong. :D

[@stealingtomorrowband]

4:03 nice ass Kiesel duder.... Thing looks nice and sounds good...

[@YOJAYO]

Nice!

[@josephhorvath9424]

What kind of guitar is that you have there I like it

[@Hamchickenfinger]

Wh does your app only have one review? I would like if some people who use it (if there are) would leave some

[@rubensanchez6585]

That keisel. 🔥 what's the glowing button??

[@samjordan3766]

Interesting. That Voodoo Chilewalk that you play at around 9.12 is exactly the same that he plays on Hey Joe.

[@Mantorok]

He's playing Voodo Child, not Voodo Chile, two different songs.